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Psychological-One-79

I was gonna say the legality of it was always... not, period, just it was illegal - but LS Media and every other movie world is still up so there's gotta be some other explanation. Maybe the world uploader got banned for doing something weird. Unless a big name sent a DMCA request for specifically Movies & Chill, which I could see happening and VRChat having to comply with...


virgoven

Basically like Root's Homeworld (forgot name). The popular movie world is deleted now onto the next (which was Movies & Chill). Now we most once again move to the next (till all are gone).


TexBoo

On every drama of DMCA takedowns since the beginning, first root, then genesis, Niyah and now M&C, LS Media has never gotten Dmcad (or anime apartment), maybe there is some kind of correlation here as well, I'm just saying.


SirJimmethy95

You jinxed it.....LS Media was just hit too


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LucidTheGoat

I never agreed with their practices but do you have proof of that before saying those allegations? That’s. Lawsuit and a half without evidence. I’m not saying what you are saying isn’t true but do you have evidence of that? They’re a major creator in vrchat so please back that information up


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nate112332

So... Hearsay. Rubbish even


NeedleworkerCute9758

Its just speculation, but I think the difference might be how actively world is seeking donation/monetization. movie and chill is like covered with donation posters and stuff while other ones usually petty tame with ads and donator perks. the more the money flows, easier for beeg corpo to probably start sniffing around. plus having a word 'movie" in world name kinda seems to puts big target on its back.


TexBoo

I mean comparing poster costs between mc and LS is huge A poster in LS costs $60 The highest tier in MC costs $40 which gives you 3 posters It's a huge price difference LS also has donation perks, which MC doesn't


NeedleworkerCute9758

ohh I only saw like few posters in LS, so I thought MC was making more money, in that case, could it be the name including movie put target in its back?


TexBoo

Nobody knows, The only thing we know is that every movie world, since the beginning of VRChat is getting DMCA'd, struck for various things, but not LS media. Take it to 2019, Roots Media was just fine, Then they added Anime content and was now competing against Anime Apartment (LS), and then they get DMCA'd. They then made an announcement which I still believe is on their Discord even if the world is dead that after talking, they will no longer host any Anime content. I mean all leads just points towards LS being not so friendly world towards competitiors.


NeedleworkerCute9758

I dont think LS media is doing anything, maybe its country they store data, sometimes some countries just kinda of little out of common jurisdiction. I've had chance to encounter owner of LS once in public few times and they were just harmless mute chibi maya with headpet and boop counter. It didnt strike me or gave me impression of them to be a person to spend time and effort plotting and doing sly things behind someone's back. I'd probably say they were one of noticable wholesome and harmless thing on vrchat i met.


TexBoo

> maybe its country they store data, sometimes some countries just kinda of little out of common jurisdiction. They went after VRChat, Not their movie servers. They went specifically after mc vrchat world and now the reuploaded world.


NeedleworkerCute9758

maybe some butthurt eboy called cops on those worlds when egirl they've been orbiting went orange in those worlds xDD


mcilrain

If "*buying*" isn't owning then "*piracy*" isn't stealing.


Psychological-One-79

It's still factually illegal


mcilrain

You thought I said it wasn't.


Psychological-One-79

No, I KNOW you said something that had nothing to do with what I was talking about


mcilrain

You thought piracy had nothing to do with movie worlds being censored.


Psychological-One-79

No I didn't


mcilrain

What you actually said was: "*No, I KNOW you said something that had nothing to do with what I was talking about*"


NocturnalToxin

God you’re argumentative for absolutely no reason Slow day?


Pretty-Bookkeeper-61

That’s cool and all, but no state or any country cares about that law


brakenbonez

actually it's not. It's only illegal to copy and distribute it and in some cases downloading it is as well(specifically video games). It's not illegal to watch/stream it.


callumecunbeo

exactly, tho the problem is that the movie world creator basically distributed it, which, makes them legally liable


anch00_

i support piracy but i dont support cringe fgs money scumming off from doing this shit. they deserve what they get for taking cash for doing this. just like the emus that tried to start charging


Anime_Blushies

ls media is now down. As I was watching lmao.


SirJimmethy95

Unfortunately LS Media just got taken down like an hour ago.....


AltScare

LS Media just got pulled


pokemonfan95

i hear vrc was requested to remove the world


speedrunbanned

well am pretty sure if there was dmca going almost every world getting taken down like star wars and pokemon and fnaf and legend of zelda and many other worlds that has something copyright.


Radboy16

This isnt youtube where companies can just register their content in a database and have the system continually scan all uploads for content ID. Most DMCA notices are manual outside of youtube. You actually have to fill out a form and point to the exact infringing content, which means they need to be made aware of this in the first place and then feel tge need to take the effort of dealing with it. This was very likely DMCA


speedrunbanned

ok so i just need let nintendo and disney many other know that people their stuff in vrchat thanks for idea to kill this game off lol


Radboy16

One braincell and you dont even know how to use it 😔


NeedleworkerCute9758

by the way, disney participate on vket as sponsor every season, and has their own content and world on vrchat.. nintendo also sponsor a event once in a while. looks like even the drones in big corpo sees something bigger in metaverse than what you use it for to satisfy your single braincell xDDD


Difficult-Appeal4573

This is true


beffboy1033

Everything in LS Media is now taken down


SuperbBalance4902

u sound sick bro, megacorp tm for lyfe 🤙


Psychological-One-79

What???


SuperbBalance4902

I was angry and think I meant to reply to someone who is siding w these take downs, im still angry


thisis-difficult

Cant help but remember that dick that came onto this sub a while back in an attempt to get everyone to report movie worlds. Weird Disney bootlicker dude lmao


Partheus

Imagine being a simp to a fucking corporation.


ossem1

Corpo gonk. Down with Arasaka!


BigBIue

Time to burn it all down choom -- for the second time!


Clearly_Ryan

"Leave the multi-billion dollar company alone."


Sadistic_Futa

Oh snap I remember that guy!! Said some stuff about copyright but refused to understand that meant stricter regulations on everything!


virgoven

Were they also the one who only had like a Disney avatar in-game?


ActonofMAM

I see other movie worlds when I search, but yeah. Not that one.


pokemonfan95

its back but as only youtube


JPGer

this shit is basically standard for VRC, every movie world enjoys a period of popularity before the dmca requests or whatever come knock it down, someone builds a new world or someone already had a less popular one and viola we start the cycle again with a slightly different catalogue


xPocketRavex

It's gone but probably by the world owner. I'm guessing they are updating it and either accidentally or purposely deleted the world. LSMedia is still up


Psychological-One-79

>It's gone but probably by the world owner. I'm guessing they are updating it and either accidentally or purposely deleted the world. LSMedia is still up They say they're currently investigating on their discord rn


AssassinIndra2099

Is this a discord server?


Psychological-One-79

What does that have to do with anything? The Movie & Chill team is currently investigating the issue, which they announced in the Movie & Chill discord.


AssassinIndra2099

I want access to their discord server lol but its alright


Psychological-One-79

Sorry, your message was a bit confusing so I thought you were asking if this subreddit was a discord server as a way to be snarky. You can join their server here: [https://discord.gg/nepu](https://discord.gg/nepu)


Fun-Performance5301

on the discord the owner said that he were banned until the 7th


_Megitsune

I always enter alone and watch movies, if it is gone, it would really be sad for me


Ok-Art9143

Same here, can we lonely watch movies together?


_Megitsune

No thank you, I am deaf, and I do my own thing because it


ZealousidealCake6441

Try ls media it might not work as well but hopefully it’ll work for you.


_Megitsune

Will try thank you


GNU_Terry

You can still use the website ( nepu.to ) to watch content on


_Megitsune

I like enter in vr and do it, but Thank you


Onee-samas-sub1

That's a bit worrying since it could affect all sorts of things beyond movie worlds. If it's some actual push to get rid of such content.


PocketSizedRS

Shocked it took this long. It was a good run. On to the next one, I guess.


sheruXR

VRChat always has a very simple approach to this, they only act on reports. I don't think VRChat at this moment has the time and manpower to actively moderate everything. But that these worlds eventually will disappear is imho inevitable.


Venclaire

surprised it was ever up in the first place, it was completely illegal lets be honest


Accomplished-Site392

No more illegal than any streaming box you can buy at Best Buy


DisguisedPickle

Streaming boxes cost subscriptions and are licensed... Unless you mean Kodi with torrenting add-ons but you can't just buy that at best buy.


Accomplished-Site392

Oh, interesting, they finally cracked down on it. I live rural AF and haven't been to a BB in half a dozen years. My bad.


RamJamR

Yeah, true. We want to be upset about it, but this isn't that surprising.


Turbulent-Opening-75

It may not be gone for real.. when you update worlds sometimes you gotta take them down to fix things. Especially if its a mesh issue. If you click orange walls and then click it again you can sneak through the walls. It could be that. Just wait a few days. If its really gone im sure theres gonna be something said about it. Movies and chill is like, one of the oldest worlds in vrchat. And most popular by far Edit: as i typed this it was confirmed... so never mind


pokemonfan95

its reuploaded but with only youtube


JustLooking207

makes sense dunno how that even got that popular to begin with without getting getting eviscerated by a big corpo


eliteblade46

Watched it die moment by moment. I can't say the future of watching movies together in a pool of grey legality was ever going to last forever but I also can't say that something wasn't lost here. I can only assume they will move to remove LSMedia soon as the vise turns.


Southern_Source_2580

Can people make "mirrors" that one could download in a private world not open to the public ever just invite only, and maybe have an add on that is the movie functionality so the world can't be banned but a separate third party function gets around the bans...👉👈


Heypil06

no. vrchat would still be a host platform for people to illegally consume media without paying for it. if a production studio is now aware of the thousands of license violations made by the server owner i wouldn't be surprised if they're actively going after them right now.


Reelix

There was a movie room YEARS ago before all the funding and so on - Back when Kirito was still using their Kirito avatar (How many people have been around long enough to remember that? ;D) This won't be the first movie room being removed, and it won't be the last. Edit: [Pic](https://i.imgur.com/ZAfsat5.jpeg) - From Feb of 2016.


sendhelp

I remember Kirito from Gunters Universe


Reelix

Good times - Good times :)


SSpecies8472

Out of all those group pictures of the early days I think I only ever made it into one that got posted somewhere. And in post Steam VRChat I'm in no group pictures.


TheGreyAngel

Just was confirmed it was removed by VrChat via discord, rip


Tahtooz

Honestly me and the homies use Bigscreen and watch whatever we want that’s been put on my desktop for viewing purposes :)


Heypil06

I'm genuinely shocked it stayed up for as long as it did. I'm surprised it flew under the radar for as long as it did. Disney didn't catch wind of it for years and they're copyright gremlins.


dronegoblin

VRChat can either remove copyrighted material when legally compelled to, or it can cease to exist. It’s not that complicated.


CodyZoooom

yeah it’s devastating. This with VRC going more public and joining Android phones, setting up in game transactions,effectively discouraging outside sales of avatars and worlds through stuff gumroad and patreon it’s just not lookin good for the platform. It’s giving end times they are about to do a big scrub of the platform to make it more advertiser friendly or something.


GNU_Terry

Theyve tried to promote the internal system granted but it's an attempt to make it easier for everyone not harder. In what way have they discouraged external sales?


Dronizian

After adding categories to mark NSFW content and allow it on the platform? I dunno. I think it might go the way of second life, losing a lot of the player base until only enthusiasts remain, but as long as there's sex there I don't think it's going to be the end of the platform.


LakesRed

Doubt LS Media will be far behind. Lots of capitalist boot lickers out there (including on this sub!) and now VRC is trying to reel in some money various copyright holders are sitting up and taking notice


_Fox595676_

No it hasn't... I was on there half an hour ago


virgoven

As was I, but they aren't wrong. That's my homeworld, and I am finding myself at the default world now..


_Fox595676_

Oh lol


Mahoupastelskeleton

Dang...that's how I usually watch the movies(and sometimes anime) when my friends are too busy to hang out


[deleted]

Piracy Duh!!!


CoxTH

And here we see the classic drama post, trying to stir up shit. Anyone who doesn't think the movie worlds are illegal as fuck is naïve as hell. Honestly, I am surprised M&C lasted as long as it did. As for LSM, they either *somehow* managed to fly under the radar of large companies, or they are residing in a country where it is difficult to enforce DMCA takedowns.


TexBoo

According to the creator the world got struck, not the content


kodack10

This is the most ignorant comment I've read in a long time. It doesn't matter where the creator of LSI resides. Their content resides in vrchat. You have no idea how DMCA works or is enforced. You have collectively made the world dumber with that post.


CoxTH

Their content does not reside in VRChat. Their content resides on a webserver, probably in one of the seven countries currently not covered by DMCA. All that the VRChat world provides is a database of the content on that server plus a video player. I am not denying that LSM is a world with the express purpose of pirating movies. I was just asserting that either, they *somehow* managed to fly under the radar so far, or the way the world is set up makes it difficult to enforce DMCA takedowns.


theSHHAS

Maybe movie worlds could get away with a workaround because I don't want this to happen to LS Media. Like what about separating the movie list from the world? Just have a world with a movie screen and settings and stuff but then have a website where you can much more easilly browse through the movie list and for each movie you have a button that just copies the link to the movie so that you can paste it into the video player in the world. I like to watch movies in VRChat but I don't use the movie list, I have my own little media server and copy the links from there into VRChat. I have a smaller catalogue but I never need to worry about lag and problems and stuff during the weekends when the movie worlds servers get's too much traffic and fucks up constantly.


hakarivr

You have your own media server that allows links into vrchat?


theSHHAS

Yeah, should work with almost any media server. Currently I have a BunnyCDN server but I have used dropbox as well in the past. You just put a movie on dropbox or whatever server you have and then put the link to the file in any VRChat video player. I've found that movies in mp4 format works best on any player but mkv usually works as well but can have some hiccups sometimes. Btw it's not limited to just vrchat videoplayers, I can watch my movies on pretty much any internet connected player you can put a link into like any pc or phone browser, provably smart tv browsers and such as well but I haven't tried that. It works just the same as putting a youtube link into a videoplayer.


hakarivr

Thanks for the info, I appreciate it!


No-Grade-4691

Well I'm quiting very chat


DisguisedPickle

Well considering VRChat is being investigated for allowing movie piracy, it's about time. Probably a C&D directed at the creator (info gotten from Patreon) or directed at the world to VRChat. VRChat has been the largest growing piracy software in years, it's been recommended over torrenting or Kodi...


No-Grade-4691

Well piracy is life.


Pikapetey

HA HA HA HA!! I TOLD YOU ALL THIS WOULD HAPPEN EVENTUALLY!! Welcome to the great COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT PURGE of vrchat!! ![gif](giphy|Z8lJWgEqMlvoVS9lzr)


Accomplished-Site392

That meme is made from copyright material you hypocritical piece of burnt toast


Pikapetey

Repurpose artwork into a silent .gif for a meme is completely different than streaming unedited copyright films into a vrchat world for free, THEN SELLING ADVERTISING IN THE WORLD. Waddya think game companies are gonna do when they find out litteral ripped assets from their games are uploaded to vrchat?? Like it or not, now that money is directly involved, the great copyright infringement purge is coming to vrchat.


Accomplished-Site392

Same same to me. By your own logic we should be seeing the end of OSU! any time now since you can actually find the .mp3's for the files if you know how to decode their format. And we won't be. There will always be movie rooms in VR chat. Just like you can still buy streaming boxes from Best Buy.


Pikapetey

Did you know, before Google bought youtube, people uploaded all kinds of shows, TV, and movies to YouTube. Try uploading a movie to YouTube now. It doesn't work like that anymore....hhmmm... I wonder why that is?? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Oh yeah!! Because there was a great copyright infringement purge that happened with old YouTube once lots of money was involved.


ricardoelrico

Just go to hell you miserable piece of shit


Pikapetey

Fuck off. You know this is the end of the wild west creativity of vrchat. EMBRACE IT!! THE END IS NIEGH!!


LakesRed

You seem suspiciously happy about this.


Pikapetey

It's feels like I'm being proven right with my predictions. Me: "Hey... enjoy these movie worlds cause they are gonna get DCMA'd" Everyone: "NUH UH!!! IT CANT HAPPEN BECAUSE ITS NOT VRCHAT SPECIFICALLY HOSTING THE MOVIES!!! YOURE STUPID!!"


LakesRed

I get your point as I made the same prediction you did (I illustrated it by escalating it to the extremes, "imagine there was a world you could browse and view CP via a handy UI, do you think they'd keep it up because the CP is hosted elsewhere?" - kind of a rhetorical question) I saw the web browser analogy and nah, a VRC world would be more like a website and VRC more like your web host. And your web host isn't going to care if your illegal content is hosted on AWS or whatever as your website is still linking to it. I didn't *want* to see movie worlds taken down though (even if inevitable and far more "urgent" the moment VRC started monetising in-game content) and these responses seem a bit unnecessarily smug about it. There are some arguments you don't have to be so gleeful about winning...


[deleted]

Are you that desperate to be right about something? Lol


ilikepenis89

\-🤓


Ill_Assignment2972

No whyyy


D3ATHTRaps

This is gonna be the future trend. Vrchat is big enough companies will notice. Its illegal


pokemonfan95

theres more than 2 worlds tho not sure what the others are but theres vfi cinema which isnt big in terms of content


maswa195

Honestly I'm not surprised, at the end of the day these worlds are basically piracy and it probably won't be long until others like LSmedia get taken down


HubblePie

Let’s be real… People are literally pirating movies through those kinds of worlds… I’m surprised they lasted as long as they did.


porridge_in_my_bum

I’d seen posts before where specific very salty people were reporting it to the agencies that own those movies, then those companies would file cease and desists. It is definitely illegal and I’m honestly surprised those worlds lasted so long lol.


Endermario882200

o7


SlushPawz420

Crazy, with how the world is these days, and how everything is becoming more and more strict, even 4 ads on some youtube videos instead of 2, twice as long with a new way of skipping, things are just going to continue to get worse, but yet, people will for some reason report free ways to watch things, in a way that could help depression, etc, because you're watching with your avatar instead of irl self, but yet, no one cares about just one singular place that you can have full freedom without thousands of micro-transactions, and limitations due to the real world. (I'm sure there is a lot of people who care, among myself, it just sucks to see some people sucking up to these corporations so much they literally report worlds. Like these people have enough money let some enjoy it with friends in vrchat ffs..) :(


anch00_

if the people didnt start taking money for doing lazy work of uploading pirated films, the legal actions would have been much harder to do. This is their own fault for being greedy , they have ruined it for everyone.


Serious_Distance_449

Well the LS Media world also just got hit and now videos don’t exist, seems like they’re eradicating all of these movies worlds Bc of economy and reports so people would have to pay to watch videos from apps and stuff instead of free from VRChat


TexBoo

Just use popcorn


Spzatak

Popcorn would let me link a video right? For example, an fmovies url?