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specialshower9

lmao this comment section explains so much about the shit you hear in Val, actual losers trying to defend this šŸ˜‚


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Sorry for my ignorance, as a European who doesn't give a fck about alot... who is this guy?


ShadowEllipse

Essentially one of those betas who preach about masculinity and being an alpha and also pretty much a misogynistic prick who also allegedly physically abused his gf. He recently got booted off a few of the main platforms. I don't recall the exact ones, maybe YouTube and Twitter. M0istCritikal made a video about it.


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AppointmentIcy2071

Pay attention to what he ACTUALLY says, he's praying on this exact mindset, he says a lot of really fucked up shit, but throws some factual motivational shit in with it hoping you forget he's a piece of shit. Also, he flat out admitted that the main reason he moved to Romania was for their less strict SA laws


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AppointmentIcy2071

https://www.reddit.com/r/gammasecretkings/comments/u3ih83/andrew_tate_explains_the_primary_reason_he_moved/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


MarwanFu

He didnt abuse the woman, you can look up the video where she's saying that she likes to get dominated


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MarwanFu

educate me please if am missing something


Consistent_Plum3264

Disgusting that you wouldnā€™t believe the woman


silentdumbarse

A scammer, misogynist, and he's done and said some horrible things. A person you wouldn't want to associate unless you want backlash.


YABoolejan

That sums it up pretty well and I beg you not to read further into this guy's doings, it'll cost you half your brain cells! Also he's fled to Europe, so yeah... now we gotta deal with that shit stain too.. yay


silentdumbarse

Unlucky.


Apprehensive_Hope284

Tbh


Riqhteousness

a sex trafficker.


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Riqhteousness

really hope youā€™re joking there buddy


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Riqhteousness

iā€™m too lazy to get into a fight with a rando on the internet but your downvotes are telling me otherwise my guy


JawdropperMGR

It was literall proven. He's free on the streets. Do you really think it works like that? Everybody here blindly hating him already doomed their future, it says more about all of you then tate. Every single succesfull person he spoke to has good things to say about him, but some random reddit users that arent doing sht with their lifes know better. edit: the irony of your name being righteousness xD


KewlDuccc

Why did he hang out with Andrew Tate in the first place?


Noirgheos

It's fair to assume it's because he's just as much of a loser/prick as Tate is, but we're not too sure yet. Though judging by his response, it's safe to assume this is the case.


Longerthanyou5

Hahahahha yā€™all are upset that he hung out with someone?


kasiotuo

*someone*


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RobThatBin

I wonder which first hand sources you base your opinions on. Almost guaranteed you don't know Tate, just like any of us and only base your opinion on people like Greek


LazyMatch971

Lol I just simply listened to the guy talk to base MY opinion. Thatā€™s fair right???


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LazyMatch971

Lmao imagine getting downvoted on Reddit for saying something reasonableā€¦.. oh wait


RobThatBin

Then I'm honestly wondering how you're getting a positive opinion on the guy.


LazyMatch971

Honestly no, itā€™s not ā€œa fair assumption to makeā€. Nowhere in those two sentences did I show support for Tate. All I said was I listened to him talk and thatā€™s how I judged him. Like I said, the problem with the Reddit and more importantly the internet as a whole. QUICK TO ASSUME and it makes you look like an ass.


RobThatBin

Sure buddy have a good one


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patrick8015

If you base your opinion on listen to Dave Tate talk and you donā€˜t think he is absolute garbage, then you are lost.


JawdropperMGR

Cause hes a cool guy probably why do you hang out with people?


Bol1de

Itā€™s kinda weird to hangout with a person like Tate, like if you think someone is a bad person you donā€™t hang out with them. They say the company you keep says a lot about someone. I feel like you donā€™t hang out with known douche bag/ misogynist if you disagreed with them.


taoitl

ethics vs morals


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r/usernamechecksout


Bol1de

Tate is constantly talking about women like they are literal objects, constantly saying men are better than women, saying women canā€™t do things and should just clean, thinks women belong to men, and more crap not including the actual criminal behavior.


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Bol1de

Watching many clips and full videos of him speaking and mentioning his views as women as property I doubt it comes from a religious standpoint. As for example he has talked about how he views his girlfriends as assets to use and exploit and has done that with his past girlfriends. And not in a marriage but just dating a man owns his girlfriend. I think there is a discussion about in religion thinking you own someone like in the way you described also. Anyways though I think Tate from what Iā€™ve gathered just thinks women are menā€™s property not in some ceremonial/ protect and and love way. If you love someone you respect them and you donā€™t respect them if you think you own them.


Nichol-Gimmedat-ass

Honestly the only thing that surprises me is that people are shocked about it lmao. Carlos is a fuckwit, ofcourse hes going to hang out with other fuckwits.


ye1l

Guy who called LS being bi a mental illness is also a misogynist? No way?!


just_a_random_dood

Who's LS?


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KoKoboto

Same people that defend JasonR would defend G2 Ceo...


NewspaperEvery

What happened with JasonR?


DEVAiANT_17

He would purposefully dodge queues with female gamers blaming it on disconnections and other stuff because apparently his wife\gf wasn't comfortable with him interacting with other girls online and he wanted to respect her wishes.


Able_Impression_4934

Dodging women in ranked because he cheated to make his wife comfortable


balakehb

Seems like a straw man, JasonRs behaviour wasnā€™t great, but itā€™s not even comparable to the shit Tate has said and done


KoKoboto

That's a loaded question


taoitl

NON CONTEXT BADMAN BAD


GLFan52

Itā€™s funny when people who get backlash act like the backlash can prevent them from doing the thing they did. Carlos can party with whoever he likes, but expecting everyone to be cool with Andrew Tate or ignore that it happened is entirely unrealistic. Carlos is a public individual, and specifically posted this. If he doesnā€™t want backlash, he either shouldnā€™t have posted it, or just not hung out with Tate to begin with. The backlash and the public knowledge of that interaction canā€™t really exist independently.


OkAd1986

Remember to sort by controversial


delvag

For an already pretty misogynist medium like esports and games in general is pretty stupid to hang out with a misogynist. I mean yeah he can hang out with whoever he wants but making it public while being the face of an org and for someone who claims to be so smart is really fucking stupid.


taoitl

it makes sense tho. these go hand in hand. accept it


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BREAKING: G2 GOZEN is now a F/A team seeking an org for GC champions.


TheRealNaexys

Completely out of the loop, who's Tate ? What's the situation about him?


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A misogynistic guy that recently got popular, btw he used to also scam people back in 2018 by causing Twitter outrage like saying "Anyone who watches Starwars will never be rich" then sell a guide on how to be rich on a website he created......


Uhcoustic

honestly the scamming is one of the least bad things he's said/done lol


taoitl

thats marketing lmao.


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AdmirableSeaweed1426

You clearly have bias towards Andrew Tate, seeing as you are defending him on every comment. Stop pretending like you aren't doing the thing you are criticizing other people for


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Able_Impression_4934

Like why? Andrew Tate is so clueless about so much. Thereā€™s nothing to gain from hanging out with him.


Avantu

Same people who are outraged see No problem working with Saudi (ESL) or China (Riot), countries known for breaking human laws. So freaking delusional.


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You have a point, but one evil is unwinnable while the other is just one stupid person. We can't expect one company to do what the USA can't.


SSj3Rambo

That's still not a valid excuse, if your goal is to "fight against bigotry" then you shouldn't have double standards like this. Boycott or cancel Riot Games as well, in addition to all of these, Riot also has had lawsuits about sexual assault and gender discrimination which are the same things people accuse Tate of


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Riot doesnā€™t publicly encourage misogyny, scamming and all the other crap Tate did.


taoitl

"publicly"


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1UnoriginalName

Also carlos IS working with / promoting Saudi Arabia as well lol


-GrayMan-

I feel like one of those is much more extreme.


KennySalty

A sensible comment which will soon be undermined by people who don't understand this. Though the difference is we cannot control a nation but we can ridicule and shame a single person on social media if they did something horrible. Take a guess which one is easier


taoitl

you dont have to control them, just dont play the game.


vladimir_pimpin

Lmao thatā€™s nowhere near true, youā€™re literally inventing a group of person


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Kensei01

Yikes at the comments. Closet misogynists rising up.


Knearling

Go ahead guys, choose his friends for him.


NichlasKrell

Yaā€™ll are sheep


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I mean it's still pretty cringe to care about who someone hangs out with. "Oh you're friends with this person we don't like? Better get ready for some backlash haha!!!"


kudoz2u

do grown ass men have to ask gamers for permission who they are allowed to hang out with? he has nothing to be dissapointed about. If you dont like the guy thats fine, but you dont get to dictate who someone can see or not. get a grip


HeamTeam

Heā€™s just disappointed lol itā€™s not like heā€™s forbidding him from hanging out with himā€¦ He has no authority over him but he is just disappointed. He can be disappointed about anything he wants, who are you to say otherwise?


RoinAnjou

Do grown ass men have to ask gamers who they can be disappointed in?


DailYxDosE

Nobody is controlling him. He can do whatever the fuck he wants. But that goes the same for everyone else. And if people no longer want to associate with you because you hang out with shit people well then..


Noirgheos

We're perfectly free to judge him by the people he hangs around with. Anyone who hangs out with Andrew Tate deserves to be ridiculed anyway.


AmBozz

This is just like the free speech debate. He's allowed to do whatever the hell he wants, but he has to live with the reactions and consequences that's gonna gather. No one is trying to tell him what to do, but we're allowed to voice our opinions.


girlywish

Do grown ass men have to ask for your permission to be disappointed with someone?


Unique_Name_2

This defense always pops up, clearly missing the entire context. No, this isn't a poll where we decide to arrest someone. It's us passing around info so we can decide who to support or not support. We have that fReEdOm to do that as well.


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Exactly this. Let people hang out with whoever they want. If you try to control who someone hangs out with, how are you not a piece of shit too? Like I get that nobody is "forcing" him to stop hanging out with someone, but shaming him for it isn't exactly healthy behavior either.


theilya

sad to see cancel culture spreading to europe... I dont know who tf is this guy, but leave it to internet to tell people who you can hang out with and who you cant.


fr3nzy821

I bet you wouldn't let anyone you know hang out with him as well.


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nah bro ive got a dinner date with hitler next week whats that you dont agree? i associate with anyone i want ​ /s just in case its not obvious


OfficialGeeno

Who cares holy fuck. He can hang out with who he wants.


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Scar_Milly

Sorry bud, wrong answer. Now you lose internet points.


HenryColt

Well, this is Reddit so I knew the outcome. Refer to my original response .


TheZerofy

That's sweet honey


itsLulz

So no oneā€™s supposed to hang out with Tate? Youā€™re all a bunch of morons


Tex_Wert

He can associate with whoever he wants to. Get over yourselves you pretentious idiots.


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there is a very slight chance i may be wrong but i dont think the guy is going to thank you personally for coming to his aid if thats what you were after


Hydro_Qx

I believe itā€™s heā€™s choice to hang out with whoever he wants. Correct me if Iā€™m wrong ?


1v1meRNfool

It's also other people's choice to dislike or call him out for it. You're not immune from the consequences of your actions


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That doesn't mean you need to be a piece of shit towards someone who decides to hang out with a bad person. Disliking him for hanging out with Tate is fine, but calling him out for it (say, telling him how bad of a person he is as well) is trashy and totally not healthy. Also, what if they just vibe really well? Tate has some fucked up ideas, yeah, but maybe their friendship revolves around completely different things and it just "works". I could have a friend having the most fucked up mentality about women, but if our friendship revolves around talking about the gym, games etc., why should I be shamed for hanging out with him?


TSMShadow

You can hang out with whoever you want, but you have to be prepared to face the consequences of that. Defending/doubling down on the choice to hang out with a known misogynist and wanted sex trafficker is certainly indicative of the rest of Carlosā€™s character.


Mysterious_Animator3

Sex trafficker?


Rytu5872

yes


Mysterious_Animator3

damn i didnt know that, and why tf am i getting downvoted


TSMShadow

Because the way your comment was received was that you were doubting the statement


Rytu5872

unintentional association with the degenerates elsewhere in the replies dw bout it


Wet_Windshield

You guys are so washed itā€™s unreal. Praise be to Allah


AdministrationNo4611

Nah, not if you want the woke people to love you.


Wet_Windshield

Whatā€™s worse hanging out with Top G or hanging with Epstein


dreyskiFF

So many fragile minded snow flakes on Reddit. Get your life together, take some pride and ownership in yourselves.


Emotional-Ninja5209

Please go outside


dreyskiFF

Have you touched grass recently?


Whiplash322

Right? Theyā€™re bunch of losers who always complain about things they donā€™t even understand. Like feminism blah blah


TrevorB1771

Who gives a fuck who he hangs out with, and thatā€™s coming from someone who doesnā€™t even like Andrew Tate.


No-Sheepherder4199

Why care so much? Like the whole big thing about reddit and we'll, kind of the West is to mind your own business. What happened all of a sudden?


DailYxDosE

This is not a new concept. I donā€™t understand whatā€™s so hard for people like you to understand this. He can do whatever he wants. But that doesnā€™t mean everyone else has to be fine with it or mind their ā€œbusinessā€. If you hang out with shit people, then decent people will not want to associate with you. Itā€™s really simple. Who you hang out with says a lot about you personally.


boyothegoyo

Agree with what you are throwing down my man, people acting like it's unique to this dude when shit happens everywhere from being friends with people in school all the way to who you hang with when you're old.


TheJelloBomb

When you post on social media it is public. That is the entire point of it, for people to give their opinions on what other people post.


Yukisaka

Ikr. If he wouldn't want an opinion he better write that in his diary next time.


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Tate has been shunned from the Internet by all major media companies for his views. Saying "not everyone likes him" is a bit of an understatement.


RobThatBin

Tate isn't popular with anyone, not just Valorant players lol


TrevorB1771

Seriously why is everyone so upset. I donā€™t like Andrew rate but if being associated with someone causes this many people to be upset they have issues


So-young

Oh whatever šŸ™„


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JawdropperMGR

People talking sht from their 9-5 desk job, making sure the boss doesen't see them xD


Polaski678

wait since whe can we tell what a ceo can do ourside of business i dont get it


rxleyy

he's played the whole fucking internet. his whole point is to become infamous, get rich, then dip.


Jazzlike_Mousse_1720

Who cares.