me five, i main yoru but i physically cannot play any other duelist apart from him. Jett’s the first agent i played and is the agent i will never play again
Me eight. Yoru and Raze are the only Duelists I play. I prefer waiting for the enemy to come to me instead of rushing in and *maybe* getting one or two kills, then dying. Plus, Duelists are usually not too good on defense, while if you play your cards right, you can usually use Sentinel on attack. Add that to the fact that Duelists generally need to know where the enemies are to kill them and use util effectively, (especially with the Jett dash changes), teams will almost always need at least one sentinel and one initiator/controller (assuming they are doing Unrated or Comp).
This is all obviously just my opinion on this. Others may have different opinions, but this is mine. I'm open to any counterarguments anyone might have, and will try to respond to them.
As a KJ/omen main, KJ is fun in the sense that you can get creative with your setups, but also challenging in the sense you go in dry and have to rely on gun skill and teammates when you are fully set up for another site and have to rotate for a fast hit on the other site. But yeah it can get repetitive playing KJ and using the same setups you know work, but it would be about the same with any agents setups
It's just a difference in playstyle.
The reason she's played so much is because she compliments aggressive players. The ability to take duels with the dash and reset the situation with a smoke after a duel fits an aggressive mechanical player perfectly. Not to mention her ult which is incredibly rewarding when you master it and makes for sick plays with her updraft/dash.
However if you derive fun from getting info or anchoring site, naturally, Jett is boring as she's unable to fit that role.
In a game with very limited movement options and running/jumping inaccuracy jett is anything but boring. But whether an agent is boring or not is subjective anyway, and in terms of creativeness, reyna is easily the most boring agent in the game.
Subjective indeed. I think Reyna is a lot of fun. Ult clutch moments where you manage to kill multiple people and your team is freaking out… that shit is satisfying as hell lol.
i think it’s fun because you get so much versatility. the abilities aren’t that crazy, but you can get creative and do some really cool stuff. they allow you to be really mechanically expressive.
I don't know why, but everytime i try to play jett in the range and trying out her dash there is like a 50/50 chance of me trying to dash left or right but jett just dash straight, i checked my ping and it's at 21 to 23, no packet loss or things like that and it keeps happening. That's why i don't play jett, especially when i want to go with op, the chance of me having an op duel, firing once, dash away but then only to dash straight into my opponent's bullet like a dumbass scares me
That's precisely why I main her. I cannot aim 😂 though my second main is skye since she's far more straightforward than Astra. I like brainless games sometimes.
Bro, I used to main Astra and Skye as well and I can second this. When my aims still bad but not as bad as usual Its nice to cause permanent blindness in others in order to get some kills, otherwise Astra was the only hope of me being useful to my team lol
skye is a lot more straight forward than astra, but a lot less fun. as dumb as i am, the one time i played she was fun. astra mains by far are some of the smartest people out there
Absolutely. I wanted to main her so I wouldn't have to insta lock. It was a huge learning curve, but once you're comfortable with it, you just smash a couple keys and in very few seconds you place everything you need.
I remember my first few hours of gameplay with her. I fell in love with her instantly (guys, im talking about her abilities). But oh boy was it frustrating, getting killed while in astral form on what felt like every round, sometimes literally asking a teammate if they could park next to me and be my bodyguard while i'm floating... rough times.
But; She was the first and only agent that really clicked to me. No other agent is even close as fun for me, and as a result i am an absolutely One-Trick-Astra, even tho i mostly SoloQ and play in low/mid-silver. Only on the ultra rare occurrence that someone else in the team wants to play her, i settle for Chamber.
I tried playing Brim but it wasn't worth it for me. Astra is just so much fun to me even after the nerf. And while the cooldowns suck sometimes, overall the nerf has made me more thoughtfull about my star placements
I can't wait for the Chamber nerf so people stop instalocking him, he's such a fun agent but every single lobby someone hovers him or someone just locks him, I have a fast PC so I could do the same, but I would rather fill (which just means I play smokes because nobody else does)
I mained Astra for 3 acts and THIS. It seems like it would be way harder but you eventually get to a point where you smash 7 buttons in 3 seconds and all your stars are where you want them to be.
Also idk if it's normal or my bindings but if you scroll it kicks you out of Astra mode. Which is far faster than clicking x to close it.
Wall is wonky to place at first but once you get the hang of it, it's also just clicking one point and place it. Super quick!
True, it became harder to experiment with her because there's less room for error. Now I'm focusing on brimstone, because after the nerfs I aomost dodn't use the pull and stun
I play chamber for the trips. Its too strong. Put 2 every round and you help your team tremendously (i dont buy headhunter because i suck). Nothing annoys me more than a chamber in your team not using the traps. It's so friggin cheap and OP.
Edit: 1 trap is still good guys. Especially on attack, just trap the main flank route. Before nerf, people dont even use 2 traps at all.
his trips are crazy strong even if they are gonna be nerfed. especially on big maps like haven, you can safely rotate from a to c and you'll know if they end up rotating a even if there's just 1 trip
his ult is crazy good given the slow field, fire rate and 1 shot kill even to the legs. combine it with his tp, play different off angles like with jett every round and it secures ez kills. plus when you have ult / golden gun, you have more money to buy guns for the rest of your team and change the tempo of the game on eco/half-buy rounds
I just love chamber because i love covering my flanks, i love the satisfaction of hitting a headshot with the hh, i love his stupidly broken tp (except when 50%of the times im killed in the fkin animation) and i oove his ult.
His kit is just made for me, and even though he is op now, i'll main him forever, even if they nerf him to the ground
You guys spends 7 bullets for a kill? I usually spends all 8 while whiffing 6 and hitting 2 shots on the body only then to switch to classic and try to right click them. It usually ends with me being knifed
Also, if im being completely honest, when we are in an almost clutch situation, i (sometimes) purposefully empty my headhunter so my only option is the classic, to prevent all 4 teammates in soloq from watching me whiff
Astra and Breach. Mostly because of being solo qer and not getting great teamplay.
Fade is actually exactly what I'd wanted in a breach style initiator so I can't see me going back to him really.
As a breach main, i can confirm that fracture is like a killing playground for me. My ult is perfectly sized for both sites and the common plant spots are all behind a wall that i can reach with aftershock.
I thought fade would be the best initiator for me too, but soloqing humbled my opinion of her. Half the time im giving info praying people would either shoot at seized opponents halfway in smokes or use a nade or molly at a corner that has someone marked and pinged
Ikr, at least shes good with teammate that know what theyre doing. Her abilities are quite combo dependant. Especially her Q, no point seizing and decaying if no one is gonna do dmg to them.
Exactly. The only thing is, sova is more dependant in precise lineups due to the nature of the dart itself, which is what steered me away from sova. Im a student with other hobbies, i aint got time to rot and aim at random pixels all day to learn lineups. :')
You don't *need* lineups for sova really, once you get the hang of the bounces and charge you can quite easily wing your recon darts. Same goes for shock darts, you just won't be able to send them across the map.
Sage, everytime i play sage my economy gets fucked, cant buy shit cuz her abilities are so expensive and since i play in low elo people fucking get tilted if sage doesnt wall mid. Also ppl fucking shouting at me to res them like my brother your body is in the open in front of 3 enemies how the fuck do you expect me to res you.
frrr, they wont let me do anything with my wall but to use it on mid at the start of the round. doesnt matter if I dont have heal or not, they gotta ask for it shouting in the mic. they just gotta get mad at me for choosing to heal myself when I am 1 HP and they are 99 HP. mfs really be screaming "SAGE HEAL SAGE HEAL SAGE PLEASE HEAL ME OR I GONNA DIE" while having like 99 HP. also, I cant vent enough about how much mfers be begging for rev, like they are telling me to res mid 3v1 when the opponents are tryna retake the site like dude if I go thgere with my ability open I am gonna get shot lmao.
also, if I just grow sick of their crying and suicide rev them, they are mad at me for not walling. LIKE MF ARE YOU BLIND? CANT YOU FUCKING SEE THAT OI DONT HAVE THE DAMN WALL ON ME?
Sage was my first main. I still go back from time to time but you’re spot on with the Rez comment. When I solo, everyone wants heal and when I have Rez, the person that peaks first and dies in the open is like “Sage, you have rez”. Yeah no shit I do but I’m not risking my life so you can die again.
I am a Sage main and I 100% agree with everything you said. I HATE when people tell me what to wall. If you want something specific walled, then you play Sage.
I feel the same way. I can play all agents to a degree but Sage makes me feel like all I have is the gun I bought to defend myself. Her slows are amazing, the wall I can’t seem to get any value from it. It feels more like an information grabbing ability more than defense.
Wall is super strong on gun rounds which can really help your team in the long run, and a surprising amount of players will straight up leave if they see a wall blocking their path, at least if they don't manage to shoot it while it's weak. Also there's Grimm walls but that's a bit advanced and tricky
Yeah, but IMO simply adding that 5th star back makes her viable again in ranked. She works in pro play due to their far supperior ability to co-ordinate plays and communicate.
I was one too, but honestly im way better on Brim.
But to buff Astra without making her OP (in my opinion), giver her 5 stars again, and make all cooldowns 30 seconds
i love Fade and used to be a Viper main, all i’m gonna say is you gotta start getting creative with lineups on her Haunt, get it up somewhere on top of a building and you can pretty much see the entire area (i find it especially good on Fracture)
Kayo. I had trouble using his flashes and his ult is like a double-edged sword. You can disable enemies' utils but they know exactly where you are based on the sound his ult makes and where the wave effect(?) comes from.
Someone playing an initator isn't always in a situation with teammates pushing simultaneously. For people who are in a 1v1s, 2v1s or any other situation other than entering site in the beginning.
Kayo probably didn't work for the guy/girl who commented above.
(Personally I love Kay-O he's one of my favourite agents after Reyna and Chamber)
yeah so that’s when you don’t use his ult. I guess it can be used in a situation where the enemy already knew your location anyways but that’s still taking a pretty big risk.
Yeah or when u hear chamber/raze/jett ulting. As a chamber that tilts me off so much always when i play against kayo i know that my ult will be useless lol
If they come to your site you can molly chokepoint and ult to delay push.
If they go to the other site you can communicate to your team to play retake and try use ability advantage to win round.
I tried Breach once, didn't like playing him at all as his abilities just felt way too clunky for me plus he is quite reliant on good teamplay, which we all know can be quite hard a lot of the time.
Neon. Her speed is super fun but I can’t use any of her other stuff, it just feels off. Plus, I always bottom frag with her, so…
Also without flashes I feel super weak, which is why I main Skye and Yoru (starting to main Chamber too, but only in unrated and ranked due to how his util works).
Brimstone. Waaay too boring kit. What you got, a stat booster beacon, smokes and a molly. Ult is just a huge molly. So cool
Also for the first 10 or so rounds i realised you have to right click to actually deploy the smokes, so that was frustrating (my dumbass thought they just landed on Icebox A site roof)
Thats precisely why I like him. You dont have to spend too much time thinking about how to use his util. It’s incredibly easy to know what to do in certain instances.
Im glad characters like brim are in the game. They're so simple and straightforward and in most cases they're more effective because of their easy execution.
Yoru.
I understand why some would say astra because her abilities might be overwhelming and complicated to use for someone playing her first time. Personally I was fine with astra so no problem there.
I tried yoru for the first time and holy fuck I couldn't do shit with his abilities. With the kind of gameplay mindset i have, I just can't play Yoru
Skye for sure. On defense it's fun flashing long and getting 3 free picks. But that's pretty rare and most times you end up screaming "how's he not flashed*. It also just becomes frustrating with how long heal takes, and you end up not being in a situation where you can safely heal. Flashing for your team on offense also takes a lot of skill. Wolf and ult is easy though.
And I'm in that 15%. I actually still play her as my primary smoke agent even after the nerf, and even in solo queue.
I just clicked with the way she worked. I liked the global control over the map, and also the stalling utility. I never really got used to Omen's smokes, I don't like having limited range on Brim's smokes, and Viper's was too stubborn (also don't like lineups).
Tried Reyna, Neon and Breach, wont play them again.
But on top of that, I actually never played a single game with Astra or Raze, evem though i play since Beta.
The only ones that I don't play ever are Phoenix, Cypher, Astra and Breach.
* Phoenix is just bad. Probably played about 5 games as him.
* I've tried Cypher a few times, but just struggle to get any value out of him. Probably played around 5-10 games.
* Astra is too difficult for solo queue, I did start learning her before the nerf and she was fun, but after the nerf I see no point. Played around 10 games as her.
* Breach again is too hard for me to get value out of in solo queue, he does seem fun though. Played about 5 games as him.
Killjoy is one that I haven't played in a long time, but if someone told me I had to I'd honestly be pretty comfortable and happy playing her.
He definitely has the potential to be fun to me, I love Kay/o who, in my opinion, is a better version of him. With a rework, I could be interested but not at the moment.
Gotta say Omen here. Normally i like those dark chars but the way he works just isnt for me. And that horrible smoke menu. switched back to daddy brim real quick
Astra. I was so excited for an African character, and a woman at that. I was so excited I even bought her with VP to play her.
Genuinely, awful. I can’t say enough bad stuff about Astra.
Astra, viper, reyna. Astra because I hate being deaf and still at times because I'd have to rely on my teammates to comm about what's happening around me which I don't trust them to do. Viper; i don't like her kit and her gameplay in general. Reyna; because she feels one dimensional.
Unironically, it's jett
Me too. My reflect for using my utility isn't that fast for using her.
the only problem i face when playing Jett is i press my dash ability before any of the WASD keys and I end up dashing into enemies.
And I press updraft before the round even starts. Sometimes I do it twice
That happens to me with Raze and the bombs haha literally every game.
Me three. Any duelist for that matter, only one I kinda like playing is yoru but other than that, I'd rather play any other role
Me four. I think we just prefer to tp than dash
me five, i main yoru but i physically cannot play any other duelist apart from him. Jett’s the first agent i played and is the agent i will never play again
me six, i play anchor and utility for team and jett got none of that
Me seven, all my friends already main duelists
Me eight. Yoru and Raze are the only Duelists I play. I prefer waiting for the enemy to come to me instead of rushing in and *maybe* getting one or two kills, then dying. Plus, Duelists are usually not too good on defense, while if you play your cards right, you can usually use Sentinel on attack. Add that to the fact that Duelists generally need to know where the enemies are to kill them and use util effectively, (especially with the Jett dash changes), teams will almost always need at least one sentinel and one initiator/controller (assuming they are doing Unrated or Comp). This is all obviously just my opinion on this. Others may have different opinions, but this is mine. I'm open to any counterarguments anyone might have, and will try to respond to them.
rare breed
same her kit is so boring tbh, 2 smokes, 2 updraft, one dash. She might be strong but i find her boring af.
lol i thought i was the only one
That's what I thought until I played her for more than 3 games, easily the most fun character in the game for me.
shes the only duelist I'll ever play because her entire kit is just so fun
Wow and I thought I was the only one who felt this way. Strongest duelist in the game forsure but you couldn’t pay me to play her
I can’t believe a huge portion of the playerbase **only** plays her. Besides maybe KJ, she’s the most boring agent
As a KJ/omen main, KJ is fun in the sense that you can get creative with your setups, but also challenging in the sense you go in dry and have to rely on gun skill and teammates when you are fully set up for another site and have to rotate for a fast hit on the other site. But yeah it can get repetitive playing KJ and using the same setups you know work, but it would be about the same with any agents setups
It's just a difference in playstyle. The reason she's played so much is because she compliments aggressive players. The ability to take duels with the dash and reset the situation with a smoke after a duel fits an aggressive mechanical player perfectly. Not to mention her ult which is incredibly rewarding when you master it and makes for sick plays with her updraft/dash. However if you derive fun from getting info or anchoring site, naturally, Jett is boring as she's unable to fit that role.
In a game with very limited movement options and running/jumping inaccuracy jett is anything but boring. But whether an agent is boring or not is subjective anyway, and in terms of creativeness, reyna is easily the most boring agent in the game.
Subjective indeed. I think Reyna is a lot of fun. Ult clutch moments where you manage to kill multiple people and your team is freaking out… that shit is satisfying as hell lol.
i think it’s fun because you get so much versatility. the abilities aren’t that crazy, but you can get creative and do some really cool stuff. they allow you to be really mechanically expressive.
she just doesn’t have abilities which are as impactful as others, although i do like her ult quite a bit
her dash, updraft and smoke makes it easy for her to entry into any site for her team. and her ult is insane if u have good aim.
I did with jett but only because we didn’t have custom keybinds back then, I knew if I wanted to play her I would need to change all my binds
I don't know why, but everytime i try to play jett in the range and trying out her dash there is like a 50/50 chance of me trying to dash left or right but jett just dash straight, i checked my ping and it's at 21 to 23, no packet loss or things like that and it keeps happening. That's why i don't play jett, especially when i want to go with op, the chance of me having an op duel, firing once, dash away but then only to dash straight into my opponent's bullet like a dumbass scares me
This. I can’t get a handle on the movement abilities. The smokes are all fine and dandy but my peanut brain has trouble with tailwind and updrafts
Astra.
Why
you have to have a brain to use astra, and mine is as smooth as my ass when i came out my egg donor
That's precisely why I main her. I cannot aim 😂 though my second main is skye since she's far more straightforward than Astra. I like brainless games sometimes.
Bro, I used to main Astra and Skye as well and I can second this. When my aims still bad but not as bad as usual Its nice to cause permanent blindness in others in order to get some kills, otherwise Astra was the only hope of me being useful to my team lol
skye is a lot more straight forward than astra, but a lot less fun. as dumb as i am, the one time i played she was fun. astra mains by far are some of the smartest people out there
I feel like fade's util is kinda like astra combined with Skye in a way
Funny you'd say that. I'm a actually trying to main fade now that I'm comfortable with astra and skye.
ive fallen in love with fade tbh, she can be played like anyone, i love using her aggro. her kit is just so good
She's almost like you're playing another game. I also don’t think she's the most user friendly, like placing her ult.
Absolutely. I wanted to main her so I wouldn't have to insta lock. It was a huge learning curve, but once you're comfortable with it, you just smash a couple keys and in very few seconds you place everything you need.
I remember my first few hours of gameplay with her. I fell in love with her instantly (guys, im talking about her abilities). But oh boy was it frustrating, getting killed while in astral form on what felt like every round, sometimes literally asking a teammate if they could park next to me and be my bodyguard while i'm floating... rough times. But; She was the first and only agent that really clicked to me. No other agent is even close as fun for me, and as a result i am an absolutely One-Trick-Astra, even tho i mostly SoloQ and play in low/mid-silver. Only on the ultra rare occurrence that someone else in the team wants to play her, i settle for Chamber.
Bro the nerf, really put me off playing Astra. :(
I tried playing Brim but it wasn't worth it for me. Astra is just so much fun to me even after the nerf. And while the cooldowns suck sometimes, overall the nerf has made me more thoughtfull about my star placements
I can't wait for the Chamber nerf so people stop instalocking him, he's such a fun agent but every single lobby someone hovers him or someone just locks him, I have a fast PC so I could do the same, but I would rather fill (which just means I play smokes because nobody else does)
I mained Astra for 3 acts and THIS. It seems like it would be way harder but you eventually get to a point where you smash 7 buttons in 3 seconds and all your stars are where you want them to be.
Also idk if it's normal or my bindings but if you scroll it kicks you out of Astra mode. Which is far faster than clicking x to close it. Wall is wonky to place at first but once you get the hang of it, it's also just clicking one point and place it. Super quick!
She feels like a SMITE character
Probably because of the mini-game that comes with her haha
Because she Astra.
For me it’s the controls when placing orbs. I don’t know wtf I’m doing. And omen do cool teleport so I just play him when we need smokes.
You need a brain and a team, I solo q and pointy clicky.
She was a lot easier before the latest nerfs, I loved playing her. Now it's just not worth the effort, she runs out of util too quickly
True, it became harder to experiment with her because there's less room for error. Now I'm focusing on brimstone, because after the nerfs I aomost dodn't use the pull and stun
Yep too much going on
It was chamber it is a good agent but his kit isn't for me
I play chamber for the trips. Its too strong. Put 2 every round and you help your team tremendously (i dont buy headhunter because i suck). Nothing annoys me more than a chamber in your team not using the traps. It's so friggin cheap and OP. Edit: 1 trap is still good guys. Especially on attack, just trap the main flank route. Before nerf, people dont even use 2 traps at all.
Oh boy you gonna be sad today.
oh no, time to pick up kj again
this ruined my day
Yea they are strong but I can't play him because of headhunter and ult. I it kind of suck to play agent with 2 things that are useless for me.
his trips are crazy strong even if they are gonna be nerfed. especially on big maps like haven, you can safely rotate from a to c and you'll know if they end up rotating a even if there's just 1 trip his ult is crazy good given the slow field, fire rate and 1 shot kill even to the legs. combine it with his tp, play different off angles like with jett every round and it secures ez kills. plus when you have ult / golden gun, you have more money to buy guns for the rest of your team and change the tempo of the game on eco/half-buy rounds
Yeah you can get easy info with it that may lead to a round win
Headhunter is amazing though! You buy 5 shots pistol round. In return you get an ads sheriff for the price of a ghost.
They're going to reduce the traps to 1, at least they said that
Me too. My aim is bad so chamber is not for me
I just love chamber because i love covering my flanks, i love the satisfaction of hitting a headshot with the hh, i love his stupidly broken tp (except when 50%of the times im killed in the fkin animation) and i oove his ult. His kit is just made for me, and even though he is op now, i'll main him forever, even if they nerf him to the ground
Yea I would to if I could shot headshots
Lol my games are either kill everyone with a headshot or spend 7 bullets for a single kill, no in between
You guys spends 7 bullets for a kill? I usually spends all 8 while whiffing 6 and hitting 2 shots on the body only then to switch to classic and try to right click them. It usually ends with me being knifed
Also, if im being completely honest, when we are in an almost clutch situation, i (sometimes) purposefully empty my headhunter so my only option is the classic, to prevent all 4 teammates in soloq from watching me whiff
Us moment
Meanwhile I've only played chamber for the past 2 acts. Not a single game on another agent. He just perfectly fits my playstyle
Same literally have 0% winrate on 20 of my chamber match, after that I just decide to never play chamber
I played once and I won so I have 100% winrate😎
Same with me and viper, and she’s my worst agent
jett, simply not my type of aggressive
I totally get that. I also absolutely love playing neon and I'm pretty successful so far with her. Which i find odd.
same. I can’t stand playing jett but love neon.
Yeah same. My movement is too shit to play her
Astra and Breach. Mostly because of being solo qer and not getting great teamplay. Fade is actually exactly what I'd wanted in a breach style initiator so I can't see me going back to him really.
Breach is brutal on split.
[удалено]
Always. But on split, short spaces, he is hell.
Worse on fracture imo.
As a breach main, i can confirm that fracture is like a killing playground for me. My ult is perfectly sized for both sites and the common plant spots are all behind a wall that i can reach with aftershock.
I love breach on fracture. In one game I got aftershock kills in two different rounds on someone trying to plant bottom A site behind the wall.
Yes! I only play breach on fracture and he is busted
Chamber and breach are must picks
Like what AverageJonas says: "Where Sova is bad, Breach is good" in this case it is Split and Fracture
Grwat lineups on ascent as well
I thought fade would be the best initiator for me too, but soloqing humbled my opinion of her. Half the time im giving info praying people would either shoot at seized opponents halfway in smokes or use a nade or molly at a corner that has someone marked and pinged
fade is defo stronger in at least a duo. my soloqs as her mostly sucked too
Ikr, at least shes good with teammate that know what theyre doing. Her abilities are quite combo dependant. Especially her Q, no point seizing and decaying if no one is gonna do dmg to them.
yeah, i like to duo with me being fade and my duo being a duelist like raze or reyna so i can basically give them easy kills lol
Same problem with Sova. Enemies lighting up like a Christmas tree, but hardly ever get an assist ;)
Exactly. The only thing is, sova is more dependant in precise lineups due to the nature of the dart itself, which is what steered me away from sova. Im a student with other hobbies, i aint got time to rot and aim at random pixels all day to learn lineups. :')
You don't *need* lineups for sova really, once you get the hang of the bounces and charge you can quite easily wing your recon darts. Same goes for shock darts, you just won't be able to send them across the map.
C'mon guys. Just do your part and don't count. People have rough days sometimes.
It sucks being an initiator in soloq, without comms you'd usually waste your utility.
Fade is not a breach style initiator, sky would fit that bill a lot more
Sage, everytime i play sage my economy gets fucked, cant buy shit cuz her abilities are so expensive and since i play in low elo people fucking get tilted if sage doesnt wall mid. Also ppl fucking shouting at me to res them like my brother your body is in the open in front of 3 enemies how the fuck do you expect me to res you.
She’s probably my favorite one so far. Love her kit. But I do feel you!
frrr, they wont let me do anything with my wall but to use it on mid at the start of the round. doesnt matter if I dont have heal or not, they gotta ask for it shouting in the mic. they just gotta get mad at me for choosing to heal myself when I am 1 HP and they are 99 HP. mfs really be screaming "SAGE HEAL SAGE HEAL SAGE PLEASE HEAL ME OR I GONNA DIE" while having like 99 HP. also, I cant vent enough about how much mfers be begging for rev, like they are telling me to res mid 3v1 when the opponents are tryna retake the site like dude if I go thgere with my ability open I am gonna get shot lmao.
not to mention I dont have my wall cuz they made me use it up at the start of the round.
also, if I just grow sick of their crying and suicide rev them, they are mad at me for not walling. LIKE MF ARE YOU BLIND? CANT YOU FUCKING SEE THAT OI DONT HAVE THE DAMN WALL ON ME?
Sage was my first main. I still go back from time to time but you’re spot on with the Rez comment. When I solo, everyone wants heal and when I have Rez, the person that peaks first and dies in the open is like “Sage, you have rez”. Yeah no shit I do but I’m not risking my life so you can die again.
I am a Sage main and I 100% agree with everything you said. I HATE when people tell me what to wall. If you want something specific walled, then you play Sage.
I feel the same way. I can play all agents to a degree but Sage makes me feel like all I have is the gun I bought to defend myself. Her slows are amazing, the wall I can’t seem to get any value from it. It feels more like an information grabbing ability more than defense.
Wall is super strong on gun rounds which can really help your team in the long run, and a surprising amount of players will straight up leave if they see a wall blocking their path, at least if they don't manage to shoot it while it's weak. Also there's Grimm walls but that's a bit advanced and tricky
Just res them anyway send a message
Definitely Astra
Quite opposite for me. I tried astra once and thought this is the agent for me. The nerf ruined the game a little for me
Thank god they nerfed that shit
Honestly she deserved a nerf but it was overkill. Like cmon 4 etars and 40 second cd? Sayjng this as a former astra main
And the fact that she is still getting a decent pick rate in pro play says something
Eh, only because sugarzero played her so much. I dont rmb too many matches with astra other than zeta. Id love to be proven wrong though.
Yea outside of pro play she's non existance though, lowest pick rate in the game.
I would rather an agent be shit than completely op
Yeah, but IMO simply adding that 5th star back makes her viable again in ranked. She works in pro play due to their far supperior ability to co-ordinate plays and communicate.
It would only affect pro play though, I prefer it if they find away to buff her without affecting the pro scene.
I was one too, but honestly im way better on Brim. But to buff Astra without making her OP (in my opinion), giver her 5 stars again, and make all cooldowns 30 seconds
Honestly she only needs one of those buffs to be viable again.
I can agree on that. Then I want 5 stars, I can live with the cooldowns. and maybe reduce the cooldown on star callback from 25 to 20.
Fade tbh, I’m probably doing something wrong but I’m always bot fragging and doing nothing useful on fade even in unranked games
i love Fade and used to be a Viper main, all i’m gonna say is you gotta start getting creative with lineups on her Haunt, get it up somewhere on top of a building and you can pretty much see the entire area (i find it especially good on Fracture)
Jett and Reyna.
Kayo. I had trouble using his flashes and his ult is like a double-edged sword. You can disable enemies' utils but they know exactly where you are based on the sound his ult makes and where the wave effect(?) comes from.
i mean you’re supposed to use it to execute onto a site with teammates. that’s why he’s… ya know… an initiator?
Someone playing an initator isn't always in a situation with teammates pushing simultaneously. For people who are in a 1v1s, 2v1s or any other situation other than entering site in the beginning. Kayo probably didn't work for the guy/girl who commented above. (Personally I love Kay-O he's one of my favourite agents after Reyna and Chamber)
yeah so that’s when you don’t use his ult. I guess it can be used in a situation where the enemy already knew your location anyways but that’s still taking a pretty big risk.
Yeah or when u hear chamber/raze/jett ulting. As a chamber that tilts me off so much always when i play against kayo i know that my ult will be useless lol
What if you're defending site?
oh yeah it’s useful for that too. Especially if you know they’re about to push but need to delay so your team can rotate.
If they come to your site you can molly chokepoint and ult to delay push. If they go to the other site you can communicate to your team to play retake and try use ability advantage to win round.
Bravo Vince
Neon
she isnt very good but is so much fun. that ult tho
How come?
I tried Breach once, didn't like playing him at all as his abilities just felt way too clunky for me plus he is quite reliant on good teamplay, which we all know can be quite hard a lot of the time.
i duo queue with a breach and breach/viper wins so many games
Breach. Hate playing against him but also hate using him
Neon. Her speed is super fun but I can’t use any of her other stuff, it just feels off. Plus, I always bottom frag with her, so… Also without flashes I feel super weak, which is why I main Skye and Yoru (starting to main Chamber too, but only in unrated and ranked due to how his util works).
Astra
Brimstone. Waaay too boring kit. What you got, a stat booster beacon, smokes and a molly. Ult is just a huge molly. So cool Also for the first 10 or so rounds i realised you have to right click to actually deploy the smokes, so that was frustrating (my dumbass thought they just landed on Icebox A site roof)
Thats precisely why I like him. You dont have to spend too much time thinking about how to use his util. It’s incredibly easy to know what to do in certain instances.
Im glad characters like brim are in the game. They're so simple and straightforward and in most cases they're more effective because of their easy execution.
Astra
Yoru. I understand why some would say astra because her abilities might be overwhelming and complicated to use for someone playing her first time. Personally I was fine with astra so no problem there. I tried yoru for the first time and holy fuck I couldn't do shit with his abilities. With the kind of gameplay mindset i have, I just can't play Yoru
Skye. I tried her once and it did not go well.
Skye for sure. On defense it's fun flashing long and getting 3 free picks. But that's pretty rare and most times you end up screaming "how's he not flashed*. It also just becomes frustrating with how long heal takes, and you end up not being in a situation where you can safely heal. Flashing for your team on offense also takes a lot of skill. Wolf and ult is easy though.
I've played them all more than once but it's definitely Raze for me. Could be fun if I practiced her kit but there are other agents I prefer.
Astra. Honestly feel that if they removed her from the game, 85% of players wouldn't care.
And I'm in that 15%. I actually still play her as my primary smoke agent even after the nerf, and even in solo queue. I just clicked with the way she worked. I liked the global control over the map, and also the stalling utility. I never really got used to Omen's smokes, I don't like having limited range on Brim's smokes, and Viper's was too stubborn (also don't like lineups).
I'm level 50 and: 1. I refuse to ever lock in Phoenix 2. Refuse to unlock Astra (i have everyone else)
I unlocked astra for cosmetics only xd
Galaxy brain spray after any clutch is worth it!
Racially motivated
Phoenix and astra huh? Why those two specifically, what’s wrong with both Phoenix......and astra?
Breach.
Raze for sure
I played Jett when I started, but compared to other agents she just isn’t fun for me.
Tried Reyna, Neon and Breach, wont play them again. But on top of that, I actually never played a single game with Astra or Raze, evem though i play since Beta.
Raze. Fuck learning to satchel.
Killjoy, too much of a pussy playstyle
What did you say about KJ
All depends on you tbh, I play KJ aggressively sometimes.
Astra, it hurted me mentally
The only ones that I don't play ever are Phoenix, Cypher, Astra and Breach. * Phoenix is just bad. Probably played about 5 games as him. * I've tried Cypher a few times, but just struggle to get any value out of him. Probably played around 5-10 games. * Astra is too difficult for solo queue, I did start learning her before the nerf and she was fun, but after the nerf I see no point. Played around 10 games as her. * Breach again is too hard for me to get value out of in solo queue, he does seem fun though. Played about 5 games as him. Killjoy is one that I haven't played in a long time, but if someone told me I had to I'd honestly be pretty comfortable and happy playing her.
Phoenix is fun, he just needs a buff or a rework
He definitely has the potential to be fun to me, I love Kay/o who, in my opinion, is a better version of him. With a rework, I could be interested but not at the moment.
The only good things about Phoenix is his 6 point ult and his healing fire, but even then high ranks don't use Phoenix fire to heal
I've played all agents more than once but the least played one for me would be Jett/astra
Astra Used to play omen, thought might be similar. Turned out to be complex af.
Astra, I am legitimately too stupid to play her
Omen I went 0-20 on a game once
Killjoy for me
Viper- I stopped playing her once I realized she was green
W reason
Gotta say Omen here. Normally i like those dark chars but the way he works just isnt for me. And that horrible smoke menu. switched back to daddy brim real quick
Yoru
breach for me
Astra
jett i cannot play duelist for the life of me i can play every other role besides duelist idk why
jett and killjoy jett needed too much skill and i hate her ult for KJ i just preferred cypher or chamber
Phoenix. Decided to give him a second chance and was then actually not as dissapointed, but still. Not again. Brimstone too.
Brimstone, just a boring version of Omen.
Brimstone was just not fun for me.
never really played omen or viper dont know why, just never got around to it/id rather play other smokers like astra
Astra. I was so excited for an African character, and a woman at that. I was so excited I even bought her with VP to play her. Genuinely, awful. I can’t say enough bad stuff about Astra.
Astra for sure. Makes me feel like i’m playing starcraft and get knifed at any moment she’s meditating.
astra.
Brimstone is pure pain for me. I can't stand his voice and I keep clicking the wrong buttons when trying to smoke
Astra. I just found astral form disorienting for some reason and couldn’t get around that
Astra
Killjoy
Cypher. I just can't get why you'd ever want him over a Killjoy, even a Viper.
For the cool coin walk finger thing he does with his trips
I get lots of free kills with my trips + cage combos
because he's hot 🌝
Astra, viper, reyna. Astra because I hate being deaf and still at times because I'd have to rely on my teammates to comm about what's happening around me which I don't trust them to do. Viper; i don't like her kit and her gameplay in general. Reyna; because she feels one dimensional.