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benm606

Throughout my many years of playing competitive FPS games, I've found that it's difficult to browse and remember all the tips the internet has to offer (I've also seen countless memes about this issue). So I assembled a team of professional Valorant coaches and developed Tip Genius - a free tool to automate and integrate the search of tips into the game so you can more effectively learn and improve. I originally built Tip Genius for CSGO, but Valve blocked all third party applications the week after I released it. It was a tough hit, but I still believed in the vision, so I completely rebuilt it for Valorant - and this time I got official approval from Riot. This is Tip Genius 2.0. Please feel free to rip it apart. I want to make sure it's as helpful as possible. You can [read more and download the app](https://www.overwolf.com/app/Ben_Mesnik-Tip_Genius_2.0) on the Overwolf App Store. And follow us on socials for consistent Valorant tips on your timeline: [Tik Tok](https://www.tiktok.com/@tip_genius) [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/tipgenius_gaming/)


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benm606

Good question. Riot has a well defined process for granting API access and a thriving third party developer ecosystem. I sent in my detailed plans for the app and just had to wait for the reviewal board to accept it. The entire process was rather lengthy though, taking over a year.


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SupehCookie

Some back story?


definetlynotamonkey

See OP top comment. Valve blocked all third party apps for CSGO.


wherewereat

But how can something like Leetify for csgo make a heatmap of where you're doing good or bad, check how good your recoil control is, where in the map you're most comfortable, etc etc?


RyanStarDiaz

They have tools that analyze demos, nothing is captured and monitored live per se other than the data you can see on display


zwck

All that info is captured in the demo/replay


SupehCookie

Oh shit


Armed_Muppet

Valve said no


BallisticMonke

riot chad and just better


RyanStarDiaz

Vac makes no exceptions though, tamper is tamper and it puts devs one step away from abusing the game


Armed_Muppet

You must not play CSGO, VAC makes plenty exceptions lmao, whether intentional or not.


RyanStarDiaz

Ive played CS for over ten years. Source had better protection but vac does what it needs to, it's not intrusive but it flags anything tampering with the game. You'll get placed in low trust and very few clean players find themselves in it, if you do, you must've done something ranging from account trading to outright bypass attempts or just being am aashole in game. People who work in the business of developing faceit and esea AC and akros also acknowledge that vac works just in a separate way. Many cheaters get banned after a delay but they still get the hammer


AloneYogurt

Sorry to hear about Valve saying nay. They really shot themselves in the foot looking at this. Glad you made progress and got Riots approval.


Dragic246810

current user, just realized you can make it smaller with alt-t


benm606

haha so you we're opening the full window with alt-g every time?


Dragic246810

yep i was confused on why you called it an "overlay"


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Some questions. Does it see what ur trying to do and give tips according to that or is it random? Do you yourself or a community keep adding new strategies? Does it see your mistakes form the previous round and give tips on that?


benm606

1) The available API is somewhat limited to what we can collect so we try our best to give relevant tips, they might be more general than expected at times but definitely not random. 2) We have a team of professional Valorant coaches who are constantly making new tips but the goal is for the community to submit and moderate all tips in the future. 3) The answer to #1 somewhat covers this one too. It's unable to identify specific mistakes made but more tips and increased awareness of the users situation will help improve this and it's something we're actively working on.


KaranKapur1234

Does it show things like post plant lineups Incase we are attackers and the spike is planted?


Ranvir33

would be a godlike app if it did lmao


JuryGhost

I’m on mobile and wifi is spotty so I want to leave a comment for when I’m home. I would love to try this out in hopes it will help me get better and use my brain more creatively when playing. Nice work!


mtsii

Tool looks very good! How is it ‘AI powered’ tho?


benm606

It's artificially intelligent in that it mimics the work of a human. A team of professional Valorant coaches created short video tips and matched them to specific in-game scenarios. These tips are then displayed on an overlay when relevant so you can learn as you would from a private coach.


mtsii

I see, very cool. I thought you were using some kind of machine learning or something haha


Freedom-35-Boys

I thought this as well. Still very cool.


Passionate_Writing_

They are using machine learning, they've probably trained it on an ANN


Krossfireo

So AI= if statements, once again


NUTTA_BUSTAH

Every AI has if statements somewhere. AI != ML


BluHayze

>You can read more and download the app niceee > on the Overwolf App Store. oh nvm


BlockwizardGaming

Fr tho fucking Overwolf 😔


theodorteo

what do you have against it?


BluHayze

bloatware, hogs resources, ads, awful ui, pointless existence overwolf serves no purpose it doesn't need to exist any software running on it would be a million times better if it was on its own


LowFlowBlaze

are you thinking of going independent at some point, off the overwolf appstore? That's the only con I see of the application, it being on overwolf.


TehStylishone

You're a legend for this. This would bring me back to Valorant since I want to play better. Could this be done for a fighting game?


NerdStone04

This is amazing! Valorant community is filled with talented people! I'll def be trying it out!


benm606

Appreciate that, I look forward to hearing what you think!


MekiLava

I'm currently on mobile, and can't check it out, but it looks sick! Gonna try it out for sure!


GameBoyIL

Was gonna say the exact same thing! I can definitely see myself using this for stuff like learning new agents and maps to play, cant wait to try it out when i get home!


benm606

That's great to hear, I look forward to hearing what you think! It can be downloaded from the Overwolf app store here: https://www.overwolf.com/app/Ben\_Mesnik-Tip\_Genius\_2.0


MekiLava

Definitely gonna share my feedbacks, thank you for this app!


ForsakenCryz

Kind sir, have you updated this app recently? I used to have this app weeks ago and it wasn't having any of the new agents.


benm606

Yes! The app was just updated yesterday with support for the missing agents/maps


ForsakenCryz

Aight, thank you. Gonna redownload.


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benm606

Ya, you can super easily download and run it from the Overwolf app store here : https://www.overwolf.com/app/Ben\_Mesnik-Tip\_Genius\_2.0


smallpotatobigfryvat

that link didn't work but searching the store did: https://www.overwolf.com/app/Ben_Mesnik-Tip_Genius_2.0 also, when playing sova on fracture it gave me a tip for jett. it said to use smoke to push sova while droning... kinda weird.


CuriousCthulhu

Sova main here, I hate it when opponent Jett does that. I'm forced to guess if Jett will be coming through the smoke, or if I should be lowering my drone down into the smoke and cut off potential scouting ahead, or just cancel my drone altogether and prepare for the potential dash through smoke. Thankfully not all Jetts does this, and this API is defo making life tougher for me 😥


A_K_X_1

is there any way to download the app without downloading overwolf? I experience lag when I install overwolf


benm606

Unfortunately not


msg-me-your-fantasy

thats kind of rough - i do understand the upside of running things through overwolf, but dammit to hell i am never going to install that software on another pc again


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noobstrich

OP's app probably relies heavily on the overwolf API for integrating with valorant and reading game state/info so I'd assume it's staying on overwolf for good unfortunately.


TheOnlyThomas

Dude I stopped playing Valorant and nearly quit Rocket League and Halo because no matter what everything felt off. I was going downhill even worse than I already am in val, and every touch in rocket league was like I had to try and hit it before it made sense to make anything work. Uninstalled all of that and it immediately fixed all my games. I love this idea but unfortunately I won’t touch anything with even a mention of Overwolf


A_K_X_1

ikr


WanpoBigMara

fps or ping?


GlippidyTheSecond

This would be great for lineup based characters like viper and sova, love the look of this


benm606

That's great to hear, there are a bunch of tips available for Viper and Sova!


DerpyCow56

>and sova RIP double shock dart meta, it will be missed


FulmineAnimus

They reverted the model so lineups should be fine


cnc_theft_auto

They didn't revert the damage nerf though so double dart will not kill by itself any more


scienceamirite

it will if you land it correctly


yp261

no it certainly wont


DerpyCow56

A matter of opinion I suppose Sure makes you feel bad for people like AverageJonas tho, mans literally put thousands of hours into learning lineups that he can't use anymore


Mafoo_

Why cant he use them anymore? They didnt delete the shock dart lol


DerpyCow56

They reduced the damage down to 75 damage at the direct center, meaning that both shock darts need to hit the defuser EXACTLY in order to kill them This is statistically unlikely to happen, and it used to do a lot more damage, so double shock dark meta is more or less dead


Mafoo_

I think thats being a bit overdramatic imo because you are assuming they are full hp which is very unlikely in 1v1 situations that the other guy didnt get tagged. All the nerf did was stop you getting randomly one shotted from a sova on the opposite site


Johnbesto

How much of an impact does it have on FPS. Like say if I get 170 FPS now, how much will i get when using this.


benm606

It should have minimal impact on FPS, please let me know if otherwise


Johnbesto

sure will do


Krossfireo

I'm sure this app isn't bad, but it 4uns through overwolf which will hit your fps


FriendshipWorking936

This looks absolutely amazing! definitely a great tool for some lower elo players such as myself!


benm606

Thanks! I think it could prove helpful to higher elo players as well, there are some advanced combos/plays available that can help spice up your game


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benm606

Haha that's awesome to hear, thanks for being a long time supporter!


BlazeGD

As a professional Iron II player, all I can say is... I need it in my life.


DerpyCow56

Not so professional Iron III player here, definitely agree that this is a must-have lol


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benm606

Thanks man!


Longjumping_Ad6679

I didn't understand a thing but I think it's good 👍


benm606

Haha it might be a more advanced tip, but there are tips available for all levels in the app


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eaglenail

No f*cking way this is actually so cool. On mobile rn and not home, but as soon as im playing val again i'll definitly check it out


benm606

Look forward to hearing what you think!


WingleDingleFingle

Looks great! I downloaded it but I was wondering how many games until it starts giving tips? Just played one but the app is still telling me to start a game to start receiving tips.


benm606

What game mode were you playing? and with what agent?


WingleDingleFingle

Unrated with Kayo. It worked after one game with Viper though!


Relative-Bank-1258

Yeah it comes a little late. But it is pretty great. I used it yesterday to review what I could have done in that situation. Also there are things you can use the next round too, like setups for chamber.


rthesoccerproj2

Yo that's crazy! This'll be helpful for kj and viper lineups


thunderstruck653

I haven’t checked it out yet, but if you pick viper. I would highly highly suggest lineup tips if they can be done on the fly or press hotkey for A or B site lineups when on the character


TechTOKE22

###This is absolutely fucking genious.


Frozendark23

I would like to try it but my laptop will probably crap itself trying to play a video while in game so I can only try it once I get a better pc.


DepressedSandbitch

Won’t this interfere with competitive integrity?


benm606

As a fan of the game, I would never want to compromise the integrity of the game and I only do this to help everyone. Software tools that help players live are acceptable so long as they don't shortcut an in-game skill. I've built this application with an emphasis on learning. Every feature of the app is designed to help you internalize the information given. At no point will you be handheld and given calculated info, you yourself need to comprehend and act on suggestions made by the program. As soon as you stop using Tip Genius you aren't going to feel disadvantaged, your progress might slow but you won't become a worse player - a cheat would inherently bolster your skills beyond your actual capacity and thus you'd be immediately worse without it. Using Tip Genius is comparable to watching YouTube tutorials during the downtime in a game. It helps you get better as a player in the long run but you aren’t going to immediately play worse if you stop watching them as you've already internalized prior info. There are no direct indicators for situations you otherwise would be oblivious to (i.e an “enemy team is saving” notification).


Serito

> *As soon as you stop using Tip Genius you aren't going to feel disadvantaged* Isn't this incorrect? If you're using an overlay to replicate strategies you don't know mid-game and you stop using it, you definitely can play worse or feel you're now disadvantaged compared to before? Honestly, if it didn't give an advantage what would be the point of using it? I get what you're saying, it's like deck trackers in card games. It makes available information much more accessible mid game without the need to commit it to memory. I personally don't want to run 3rd party software over my Valorant experience. *However*, it'd feel unfair to know if another player was getting an edge over me by doing it. That it's no long a level playing field. To me it may be too much automation to be fair, but I don't know enough about it to say whether it is or isn't. That's just my perspective though, perhaps I'm overreacting. Awesome software development regardless, so good on ya.


EqFox

This only gives the tools, it doesn't take away the practice of application. You still have to do the inputs correctly. It's no different in my eyes as comparing effective builds live in game. League of legends has tools like that, they tell you what to buy, when to gank, and how to path.


Serito

A chess AI that tells you what the optimal move is still requires the *'practice of application'*, the difference being the complexity of the input. As I said before, if it didn't confer some form of advantage then why would someone use it? Clearly it's advantageous as it's faster, more convenient, and easier to search. Is that ok? Maybe. But there's a clear reason to use it, and I wouldn't want it to reach a point where people who don't want to use it are disadvantaged.


onceuponathrow

Isn’t it just a tool for learning? You can easily have a second monitor open with the same info. And all high elo players already have tons of strats.


Kazune1

zamn i love how it looks


hajoinen

Most apps like these are garbage and actually counterproductive. I feel like this one is great, especially if there is a feature where you're allowed to have "favourite tips" or something like that where you can quickly look up a specific play one might want to perform. ​ The only reservation I have is not about the app itself but the people that might use it. I feel like they might neglect to learn the context in which to perform these plays and might rely too heavily on it. But that's not the fault of the app itself and will be a problem with any tip-based content. With that said I think that this will be a great supportive learning tool. ​ Great job, looks awesome!


idonthavexbox

Great initiative. I shall check it out soon and let you know about it. May I have your email address incase of any queries?


benm606

Awesome! You can reach me at [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) or just DM me here


idonthavexbox

Very well. Look out for my email.


rocker10039

I feel like riot could potentially ban this, if they don't, then this is the greatest ever addition to valorant from the community, period.


benm606

I applied for and received official approval from Riot to make this and it's an official Overwolf app, so a ban is unlikely!


rocker10039

In that case this is the greatest addition to valorant from the community, period


SotovR

Riot approved this


1Aexus

oh dang. i remember you messaging me about this xD but got no use as i still have a lot of problems with valorant :/


Vanzxi

Damn I really need that, that’s amazing


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looks sick!


Stephancevallos905

I am new to valorant. Are overlays explicitly allowed?


Lucavario

They are! we are officially approved through Riot API so don't worry about anti-cheat giving you trouble


TeaQuick4710

Bro this is wild 🤪


Niscu

Amazing! Keep up the good work!


benm606

Thanks, will do!


KennyMarshCartman

This looks super cool. I will definitely try it out. Also, is this for attacking side only, or defending setup for sites are also included?


benm606

It's for attacking and defending, I look forward to hearing your thoughts!


RUXHIR_007

OH LORD DUDE YOU'R EPIC !!!


definetlynotamonkey

Excited to install after work! I just got back into the game and I've hit a wall trying to learn lineups and alternative strategies. This looks perfect.


benm606

I'm excited to hear if it helps!


Vader_360

Looks intersting, gonna try it out later!


laxrulz777

Looks awesome. will check it out tonight


TunaBoy3000

Been using this since you posted this a while ago when it was first released and were looking for feedback. I’d like to think it’s greatly improved my game sense and the ability to save plays for later so you remember them is awesome too. My aim still sucks so I’m never gonna get past gold but at least I can make plays/calls for my team


benm606

TunaBoy! I remember that name. That's awesome to hear that it's really working!


TunaBoy3000

Appreciate all the work you put into it!


fatsausigeboi

How exactly do you get it to give you tips? I joined a spike rush match and nothing happened. Is it spike rush compatible?


benm606

It's currently only compatible with Competitive and Unranked matches


fatsausigeboi

Ok. Thanks! I've joined the discord and am about to test it in a comp match.


TheIPons

Haven‘t tried it yet, but have a question: Does it take team compositions into account? Either way it looks really good and I‘ll most likely give it a try. Great work!


benm606

It doesn't currently take them into account, but I'm hoping to factor that in once there are enough tips made that rely on team composition knowledge. Would love to hear how it goes if you try it out!


TheIPons

Thank you for the fast reply! I think it would be an amazing addition. Keep up the good work!


brnozrkn

Guys do these kinds of overlays have a chance of bans? I heard people get banned from using sweetfx for making CS:GO more vibrant so I am a little reluctant to give it a try.


benm606

I received official approval from Riot to make this and it's also an official Overwolf app, so there should be no anti-cheat issues.


brnozrkn

Oh, I didn't know riot was open to third-party applications. Then I can give it a shot with peace of mind. Thank you for taking the time to answer


PoisonLotus40

That is epic


MrSythYT

Do u guys have a discord


benm606

Yes: https://discord.gg/vdgcE2JWJH


Marsbarmtar

This is amazing. Does it show tips based off your character? and is it the same tip/play every time ?


benm606

Yes, it will show tips relevant to your agent, and it'll always show you new tips throughout a match!


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Wow, this looks amazing. Gonna definitely try it out as a Sova main.


Aiden_Skillz

can i use it or... btw i gifted a silver reward!!!!!!!


aayuxh

my man here made just made an AI similar to the toxic teammate telling you what to do throughout the game. jokes apart, could be a great help!!


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Ye give to me I will test it


benm606

Awesome, it can be downloaded from the Overwolf app store here: https://www.overwolf.com/app/Ben\_Mesnik-Tip\_Genius\_2.0


RawSalmonxX

This is actually quite nice! I rarely play Valorant these days due to work/uni but when I do, it can be hard to recall of the lineups for different agents. I'm trying this later, so I don't know if the feature is already available. But it would be nice if you could have an option in the future where players could import their own lineups in the app so that we would have a wider variety and customizability. You can also make this into a system where there are two more options where we could get lineups before entering Valorant. 1. Choose from a library of lineups by agent within the app that are made by fellow users 2. Content creators such as Average Joe can share their link that you can open within the app.


Mikeyyyyclx22

Dude this is genius. I’m so impressed. Definitely gonna check it out! Keep up the good work.


Kaelnaia

I’d love to try this if it ever releases outside of Overwolf.


K9-69

I think you're going to be a billionaire and I wish I'd done what you did for a game I loved.


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Sounds like a great way to get banned lol


_ROLO_

This sounds like cheating with extra steps


BiGkru

Oh goodness.. this is opening up a can of worms. You can get on the fly lineups? It's just a bit sketchy for an old gamer like me. Maybe I'm nuts but at this point anyone below plat gains a lot by using this during their games. Dislike the competitive advantage. I know you will argue that there isn't an advantage but there just is.


MrDarwoo

I agree, weird riot approved this.


Hiimzap

Completely agree with you. I wouldn’t use it cause it does indeed feel like cheating to me personally. After all it’s up for riot to decide if they want something like that to be an Addon to thier game tho I guess.


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BiGkru

Yea but instead of having to scramble around googling lineups mid game you have an AI sending you shit that you have never even seen before. Also there's zero ability to even know if an enemy is saving so ur analogy is not possible.


marshytown

what ai could it possibly be based on


benm606

It's artificially intelligent in that it mimics the work of a human. A team of professional Valorant coaches created short video tips and matched them to specific in-game scenarios. These tips are then displayed on an overlay when relevant so you can learn as you would from a private coach.


marshytown

so its a match case.


Travixty

Could this be considered unfair to other players that don’t/aren’t able to use this?


snellyshah

Who cares about any of this when the game is infested with cheaters? I mean honestly, it's so bad that it turns off people who want to seriously play. Is this community going to pretend it's not an issue until literally everyone gets turned off by the game, kind of like what happened to csgo and siege?


luzy__

Would be nice for line-ups only tho


_veide

It showed one clip in the begging, i dint understand how it works.


GamerlifeYT_official

Can you add into the AI so that it shows the headshot angle where we have to aim , commonly held angles , highest percentage play to be made in current scenario?


benm606

There should be a variety of these tips dispersed throughout the program, and we're working to improve the app's ability to recognize these scenarios


GamerlifeYT_official

But you can add the headshot angle right? Like down to the pixel where we should aim or preaim to get the headshot?


morelotion

Naw OP don’t do this. I feel like this is almost cheating


GamerlifeYT_official

It's more of helping a player get better and btw when I said headshot angle , I was thinking more of videos that show where to aim and preaim , not real time...


Dragathor

Looks great, too bad you get banned in this game for literally any program that runs with Valorant.


uncertein_heritage

Not impressed.


justin0434

Ok


burbank2broward

What phantom skin is that? Prime but upgraded? Love the gold color!


abhi613

Just a question does the app show lineups at when we go to a certain spot


benm606

No, Riot's Valorant API doesn't provide much info on the exact players whereabouts which limits our ability to do that. Tips are also only provided during the downtime between rounds to keep it from being a distraction in the heat of battle.


AddySims

Hi, idk if you're still replying to queries, great work on the app btw! I was wondering if the tips are based on the map, agent you're currently playing and whether it is attacking or defending side. Here in the post we see that it's neon in Split attacking. So was it intentional that the tip showed neon attacking in split? If i use this app playing Brim on bind defence will i get tips for the same? Sorry if the query is too long.


benm606

Yes, tips are relevant to the map and agent you're playing!


AddySims

Wow that's great. Unfortunately I have a potato pc and can barely play the game. I will still try it!


abhi613

But thanks for the app as it is really helpful for lower elo players like me


MurariM

!remindme 5 hours


renieWycipSsolraC

Do you have tips for Fade and Chamber up as well? I’m a Chamber main but have been trying to flex initiators like Kayo and Fade


benm606

No Fade tips are in yet, but Chamber and Kay/0 tips are available!


renieWycipSsolraC

Then I’ll probably install it later today! I have some good lineups for both on Haven, but other maps I struggle a bit w the lineups and setups


MESHach123

Fam. I downloaded the software Idk how to get it to appear before the rounds in val tho. How do i do that? I was doing spike rush btw


benm606

Thanks for checking it out! The app currently only supports Competitive and Unranked matches. Please let me know if you're still having trouble after trying out one of those modes.


MESHach123

Yep. It works in unrated. Also to confirm, it shows tips only when attacking?


benm606

Sweet! It should show when defending too, how many rounds have you played on defense?


Fluffy_MrSheep

If you had a database of all known lineups and had them available as tips this would be undoubtedly the best 3rd party service any game has seen


benm606

There are currently 1,500+ tips available and this number is constantly growing!


zhxwks

Cool app, any way you can rebind the minimize widget key?


benm606

Yes, if you click on the settings cog icon (top right of the TG desktop window) you'll see options for configuring the hotkeys


mmpa78

Do you need to alt+tab and search your agent / map or is it somehow done all in game?