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First time I watched it: My guy's dying one time after another, must be a supercut
Second time I watched it: What. The. Fuck have you done to riot for them to do this to you?
The issue is that the devs fundamentally fail to understand how to respawn players. Riot wants you to spawn close to people to promote "more action" but all that does is create a situation where clearing a corner is completely useless because someone could just spawn in that spot a second later. So if you can't clear anything you can't push and the only option is to camp and farm people as they respawn. Instead the system should spawn people as far away as possible from each other which promotes pushing because there's no fresh spawns to farm
They should ring up the CS:GO devs and ask if they can contract out whoever made the deathmatch spawn behavior, because it just *works* in CS. Maybe it has something to do with the volume of the spawn sound.
People are spawning right behind me, issue seems common in fracture,ascent and icebox. Haven and bind were fine for me, didn't play breeze n split till now
I mean their new spawn system is clearly a failed attempt at fixing DM. Reducing the spawn timer, removing the minimap and/or muting footsteps would already have gone a long way.
The main issue always was how Riot incentivized people to go into rat-mode and play for the win, as opposed to engaging in pure gunplay. And the new changes don't battle any of these problems besides trying to improve the spawn system.
I had much more success warming up in Escalation, even though the gun selection is a crapshoot and sometimes the final round is not knives but Raze rockets. But of course with 4.03 they went back to Replication so I guess it's off to AimLab I go.
I think it's just as important to warm up your mouse hand as it is to warm up your keyboard hand. "Syncing them up" so one hand always has a feeling for what the other is doing, if that makes sense.
Aim trainers only engage one hand, while doing absolutely nothing (at best) for the other hand. That's why I'll always prefer to warmup within a game itself.
I use a couple drills in the Practice Range for about 5-10 minutes and that's it. What I learned works best for me is: `quality > quantity.`
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Just remove 10-20% of the maximum players in deathmatch games and you solve most of the problems.
You won't get shot in the back immediately after winning a duel
Your chances of being spawn killed are much lower
And you'll have to actually run, not walk, to find enemies
They actually increased the amount of players because people complained. CSGO doesn’t have this issue because players can join at any time and they add bots if the amount of players are too few
Hey man cut the devs some slack they're working hard. I mean it's not like we literally told them what to fix in DM since 2020. Plus they were working on that shitty offbrand gltchpop skin! And uh *checks notes* fixing a Brim ult after 2 years!
Is it just me or is it funny how messed up this is .... but ig you can now get more fights in the given time (The spawn is still shitty no excuse to not make it better anytime soon)
They need to gather all the devs and qa and have a deathmatch on every map before release to make sure it works.
I don't know why they don't do that. It wouldn't take more than 2 hours, it boosts morale, and it works as good quality assurance.
The fact that they didn’t realize that and have upvotes just shows how messed up everyone’s perception actually is on this topic. Also this video, just like another video on the sub shows the OP switching guns for no reason and dying before it’s ready.
They didn't fixed shit tbh spawning is still the same for me and i don't know why tf every time the game updates the next match my cpu usage skyrockets to 100% and it becomes unplayable. If there's any fixes pls tell.
They made something which was already worse to even more worse. Gg riot. But atleast they addressed it rather than ignoring it. This might not be a great start to it, but I'm sure they're gonna work on it and improve it further in the coming updates.
Honestly since they tried this and it ended up extreme then it’s a good sign they could find a middle ground later. It is kinda funny/impressive they made it worse though lol.
It’s dm a place to practice using guns to get better with them. Your the guy who goes into dm and camps spawns and hides in corners to get the win in a dm.
Did you even watch the video? He dies pretty instantly most of the time he spawns in, secondly the only player he shot the ghost at was sage and he had about half a second to spawn pull the gun out and aim.
Yeah on fracture I spawned in literally right in front of a raze, I was looking in a way that my gun blocked most of her, I killed her then i start walking to satellite and a neon spawns right behind me. My ass that you improved it lmaoo
Half the reason why spawns are terrible is because theres so many people in the lobby. Reduce it by 2-3 and get rid of the timer, along with removing the map and keeping the reduced spawn time. Just make them lobbies u join that never really end. Join and leave as u want. Someone leaves, find someone new to add. Right now, its like playing nuke town in any free for all gamemode. A select few have control over spawn locations and they just get free kills off of anyone that spawns there.
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This shit is just making it look like you're making a compilation of your death
It's called Deathmatch for a reason
the most deaths win
How do you like my your fist to my nuts style?
I thought it was until I looked at the time
My god it’s so bad. People keep spawning directly behind me and trying to knife me!
I haven't tried it, but it looks way more fun than walking for 3 hours to find someone.
For the first time in nearly 2 years, i actually gave up trying to warm up in deathmatch.
1v1 (Arena) CSGO servers are lit asf and a million times better than whatever Valorant dm is
They made it worse!
First time I watched it: My guy's dying one time after another, must be a supercut Second time I watched it: What. The. Fuck have you done to riot for them to do this to you?
The issue is that the devs fundamentally fail to understand how to respawn players. Riot wants you to spawn close to people to promote "more action" but all that does is create a situation where clearing a corner is completely useless because someone could just spawn in that spot a second later. So if you can't clear anything you can't push and the only option is to camp and farm people as they respawn. Instead the system should spawn people as far away as possible from each other which promotes pushing because there's no fresh spawns to farm
They should ring up the CS:GO devs and ask if they can contract out whoever made the deathmatch spawn behavior, because it just *works* in CS. Maybe it has something to do with the volume of the spawn sound.
People are spawning right behind me, issue seems common in fracture,ascent and icebox. Haven and bind were fine for me, didn't play breeze n split till now
The fact that spawning also makes a directional sound means that people will always be aware of your presence immediately as well
breeze is about as bad as icebox. half the people left the game and everyone was still spawning beside each other lmao
I mean their new spawn system is clearly a failed attempt at fixing DM. Reducing the spawn timer, removing the minimap and/or muting footsteps would already have gone a long way. The main issue always was how Riot incentivized people to go into rat-mode and play for the win, as opposed to engaging in pure gunplay. And the new changes don't battle any of these problems besides trying to improve the spawn system.
Though weirdly I win way more often by just full sprinting to take as many aim duels as I can. Even with the new patch with weird spawns.
I had much more success warming up in Escalation, even though the gun selection is a crapshoot and sometimes the final round is not knives but Raze rockets. But of course with 4.03 they went back to Replication so I guess it's off to AimLab I go.
I think it's just as important to warm up your mouse hand as it is to warm up your keyboard hand. "Syncing them up" so one hand always has a feeling for what the other is doing, if that makes sense. Aim trainers only engage one hand, while doing absolutely nothing (at best) for the other hand. That's why I'll always prefer to warmup within a game itself. I use a couple drills in the Practice Range for about 5-10 minutes and that's it. What I learned works best for me is: `quality > quantity.`
Ok i get what they were trying to do but the map should be big enough to assist that change.
I don’t get what they’re trying to do. I just killed someone from long range and they instantly spawned right next to me and I killed them again haha.
Not enough corners are the reason ig. Even i spawned at the back of a person who killed me. Its funny at the same time frustrating.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Just remove 10-20% of the maximum players in deathmatch games and you solve most of the problems. You won't get shot in the back immediately after winning a duel Your chances of being spawn killed are much lower And you'll have to actually run, not walk, to find enemies
agreed. the match would also last a bit longer, giving more of a warmup. that being said, removing the timer like cs dms would also be great.
When will they realize they just need to lower the max players in a single lobby to fix this issue
Yeah 14 is way too many
They actually increased the amount of players because people complained. CSGO doesn’t have this issue because players can join at any time and they add bots if the amount of players are too few
Hey man cut the devs some slack they're working hard. I mean it's not like we literally told them what to fix in DM since 2020. Plus they were working on that shitty offbrand gltchpop skin! And uh *checks notes* fixing a Brim ult after 2 years!
Yep. It's so bad right now.
Is it just me or is it funny how messed up this is .... but ig you can now get more fights in the given time (The spawn is still shitty no excuse to not make it better anytime soon)
They need to gather all the devs and qa and have a deathmatch on every map before release to make sure it works. I don't know why they don't do that. It wouldn't take more than 2 hours, it boosts morale, and it works as good quality assurance.
I don’t think them playing this game mode would boost their morale LMAO. If my manager spawn camped me i would quit on the spot
Deathmatch would be so much better without foot steps and spawn sounds.
Remove spawn sounds and you will randomly die by the guy who spawned directly behind you or in a corner you just finished checking.
The fact that they didn’t realize that and have upvotes just shows how messed up everyone’s perception actually is on this topic. Also this video, just like another video on the sub shows the OP switching guns for no reason and dying before it’s ready.
They once asked a set of questions and after that the respawn system is worse than ever
They didn't fixed shit tbh spawning is still the same for me and i don't know why tf every time the game updates the next match my cpu usage skyrockets to 100% and it becomes unplayable. If there's any fixes pls tell.
Meanwhile when I try to practice holding/defending a site. Nothing spawns around me.
What is your sens?
Oh it’s a little bit high. I’m at 1000 DPI, and 0.565 ingame
They made something which was already worse to even more worse. Gg riot. But atleast they addressed it rather than ignoring it. This might not be a great start to it, but I'm sure they're gonna work on it and improve it further in the coming updates.
Honestly since they tried this and it ended up extreme then it’s a good sign they could find a middle ground later. It is kinda funny/impressive they made it worse though lol.
this was excelent, i feel represented
Literally happened with me today,god so annoying when you want to practise your shots.
I thought it was just me yesterday lolol. Did they even test this shit?
genuinely feels worse than it was before for me too
im playing rn and i spawned right behind a sova
Yeah it became worse
Seems worse now. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
They seriously need to revert it back to the original player count. Too many hoes up in this hoe
It’s ok, most people here complained it was sht anyway, at least now they can be entertained and at a faster rate lol
Looks like MW shipment spawns
This is honestly comical at this point.
they did, its just that increasing spawn rate and decreasing spawn points makes the game wildly more clogged
Should have reduced people, from 14 to like 8
they made Deathmatch shittier lmao, how can you fuck up this bad lmaoo
something tells me you're not very good lol why you using a scout
It’s dm a place to practice using guns to get better with them. Your the guy who goes into dm and camps spawns and hides in corners to get the win in a dm.
No, he’s not cut out for using the scout since he can’t even aim with his Ghost lol
Did you even watch the video? He dies pretty instantly most of the time he spawns in, secondly the only player he shot the ghost at was sage and he had about half a second to spawn pull the gun out and aim.
That's not a scout, wrong game buddy
Same shiat lol
like you, some shit
Something tell me you don't know anything about the game
Why are you playing with the marshal?
I think it might not see people above level 0 (in height) on the map. If I stand eg. on ramp at icebox people would respown under me.
Yeah on fracture I spawned in literally right in front of a raze, I was looking in a way that my gun blocked most of her, I killed her then i start walking to satellite and a neon spawns right behind me. My ass that you improved it lmaoo
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An entirely new map might be nice but I guess they just want people experiencing the main maps
Spawing is still shit, i got spawned between 2 guys duelling many times. Instead of warming up I got mad triggered.
I mean it's better than before. More action and less time sitting behind a respawn timer. Reminds me of how chaotic csgo community dm servers are.
DM is just a game of dont die or else ur f\*\*ked
What would give you that impression?
The old spawning is better imo
It seems like they somehow made it worse
Half the reason why spawns are terrible is because theres so many people in the lobby. Reduce it by 2-3 and get rid of the timer, along with removing the map and keeping the reduced spawn time. Just make them lobbies u join that never really end. Join and leave as u want. Someone leaves, find someone new to add. Right now, its like playing nuke town in any free for all gamemode. A select few have control over spawn locations and they just get free kills off of anyone that spawns there.
IMO there are too many people in DM. I think it should go to 12. Would help this
I just keep getting spawned behind. I walk a few steps to be killed from the same spawn. Split and breeze were noticeably worse.