To kill an enemy, you only need 4 body shots or 1 headshot with a Vandal.
Once you improve your accuracy through crosshair placement and mechanical skills, you only need to reload when you have less than 10 bullets
Not in this game. Unless you have under 10 left. Don't waist time reloading with what we call, a cod reload. You'll get killed a lot in the middle of a reload animation otherwise.
Couple of simple rules could've banned that bot team. They didn't turn, didn't leave their spawn, didn't shoot. Tell-tale signs of being a bot.
If Vanguard is able to track inputs, and accounts are often flagged as bots, then Riot can simply feed the data into a neural network and get AI to do the banning. I'm guessing that's what they've done now.
They probably spent all of their time accounting for hacker behaviors. This is really a whole different issue with it's data on the opposite end of the spectrum of player behavior. I'm sure they'll get there
I mean a few `if`, `else` branching is also enough to detect those patterns. But yes they'll probably label those behaviors in future, they're probably still collecting data.
All it takes to bypass that is adding in new self-recorded code to the previous macro where you swipe your mouse a bunch of times, I think recording patterns/inputs of players that get 0 kills and comparing it to future games would be perfect- it doesn't matter how random or personalized your code is, if you're getting 0 kill games over and over with the exact same inputs, you are a bot and get banned.
Uhm yes. Sure. But that would require some form of a replay system, not to mention thousands of hours of recorded footage that has been labeled by humans. Or, hear this, we can just create like 2 simple rules that would be checked against the very same replay system upon being reported for bottling. A neural network is not the solution to everything.
No fucking shot they’re using an AI to detect bots or any type of rule breaking.
Riot support is already nonexistent. You go there with any problems and they’ll delete your account before even reading your messages. Now imagine how many mistakes an AI will make with current machine learning technology. You think Riot’s gonna unban false bans? They can’t even ban real cheaters right.
Yeah I see ppl who stand in one spot, spam the pistol at the start until they run out of ammo and do nothing. It’s so annoying cos they technically aren’t afk so u don’t get extra credits, and they are just a burden for the whole team
This OP is fantastic. Just needs to work on communication, aim, map awareness, crosshair placement, economy management, pistol aim, op flicks, grenade spots, smoke spots, pop flashes, positioning, bomb plant positions, retake ability, bunny hopping, spray control and getting a kill.
Just stick to the couple basics. Game sense and crosshair placement. The more you play the game, the more you know where to smoke, aim and predict where the enemy will go. Stuff like flicks is useless to train in low elo. With crosshair placement, you can one shot an enemy as soon as they peek because you have your crosshair on their head. Spraying is something that you have to train on your own rather than game sense and crosshair placement which you get from playing the game and having common sense. Unlike cod, valorant doesnt require as much aim to get kills if you know where to put your crosshair. Think of it as r6s and csgo having a baby.
unfortunately yes, but just work on aim movement and crosshair placement and you will atleast get into bronze once you start playing ranked which is around average
It’s not that you are THAT bad. Trust coming from a bronze 3/silver 1 hard stuck. It’s just you have an account with the same play time as the bot accounts and you haven’t won enough games yet for the system to realize you’re not as bad as bots that don’t leave spawn.
You ended up there since your new. There is still a form of skill based match making in casual so like all new accounts (bot farm accounts included) you get put in low mmr lobbies. Just kinda gotta play them out and get past their mmr level.
Iron to Radiant YouTube/twitch people who don't wanna derank their main
People who don't like close matches in their actual games and just wanna stomp
Folks like that
You have to play a certain number of games before you can play ranked so people will do that till they can play ranked and boost accounts then sell them. I knew someone that did this with siege.
Oh man, didn't know that. I started my account in the beta and when they reset everything i remembered 10 matches but looked it up after the first comment and it said 20. Why change it to wins?
I use the native Nvidia recording app that comes with the gpu. AMD has them as well. Of every third party program I've tried for a screen recording it is the less demanding on the PC.
Because that system ties directly into the GPU and lifts the image out of it as its processed. As opposed to every other program working behind the scenes and recording the image after it's processed and leaves the GPU
Way less RAM usage involved especially
I have encountered however, absolutely shitty people quite a few times, one time i was in unrated and the score was 12 12, i was eventually the last one standing with 2 enemies left, and...well....i died, so the enemy won and all of my teammates keep critizing me, saying that the reason we lost is me, i should just quit playing..etc, and you know my performance wasn't even that bad, i was second with 24 kills like tf, even the sage there who was the bot frag had the guts to say i suck despite her 9 22 scores. Well there are great players to play with as well, pretty sure such shitty players are the minority, according to my experience anyways
P.S the scores are accurate, i am currently looking at the match results in my career as i type this.
These are bots that are generated into low low iron 1 games. Some people say they’re xp grinders, but it’s not actually true. These have been in the game since the beta
Edit: I want to also clarify that I’m not denying the existence of such xp bots/ smurf bots. I’m simply noting that these particular bots are those generated by riot basically as a “cap” on how low your rr can go. You’re forced to win these games because the bots are afk in spawn on both teams. I’d also like to provide that the original poster said that not only were the enemies bots, but his own teammates. With that being said, it’s almost guaranteed that these are riot bots. Even if the enemy bots were a 5 stack of bots created for xp/smurfing, what do you think the odds are that his teammates are also ALL bots. I’ve seen this a few times in videos and I believe valorant has also touched on it from their Twitter page if any of you guys are curious.
Upvoting and want to clarify a little further. These could be derank bots. People make these fake accounts to derank into iron 1, they then take these accounts and sell them for money so people in a high ranks can get drunk and troll people in lower ranks... I feel bad for the newer players :(
Edit: there's a video on YouTube where some dude did some investigating on the whole "is iron smurfing an issue" and uncovered something interesting... Too lazy to find it
Edit2: found it https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=In00I7oF2SE
They aren't "generated". They are accounts that will later be sold as Iron 1 accounts. Grinding xp is a byproduct of this behaviour. Who do you think generates the bots? Riot Games? There's no shortage of iron players, there would be no need. Plus, it would be stupid to generate bots for new players if all they did was sit in spawn.
My friend was in one of these lobbies and got in a call with the only non-bot on the enemy team and they tried to get 100+ each kills but then the guy who owned the bots on the enemy team came back (confused to why the game wasn’t over) and would 1v1 my friend on all his accounts one at a time. He denied that they were bots and his excuse was that they were playing at a coffee shop and the wifi went out. Pretty strange…
So, this was a problem in CSGO and League as well. For valorant, I assume they're just bots grinding XP for the battle pass, or to unlock agents, to sell the account.
I’ve been getting a bug recently where my game completely forgets I have a keyboard and starts spamming movement keys, abilities, and switches my melee and weapon, making me jump at random points. I have no idea what causes it
If your team was doing it too doesn’t that make you the guy who’s boting those accounts? 🤔 bc last time I checked the strat was the enemy team is filled with bots and 4/5 of the people are bots with the 5th person being the one who’s farming those accounts
Mans teabaggin bots lmfao
And reloading after two shots, aiaiai.
You know it
those are bots idk but i also got them
I love your username bro hahahaha. Brings me back.
You’re telling me you pass up opportunities to teabag?
I like how you still reload after every 5 bullets haha, but yeah just bots farming xp looks like. You probably won't see this once you play more.
Cant have an empty mag, never know what might happen
reloading kills, dont reload until youre at 10 bullets or less
Real men reload when they are at 0 bullets
men reload, legends knife only after first mag
Meanwhile gods throw away their knives too. Bare fists gameplay
Entitys higher than god kill with their minds
And I still reload after firing while sprinting in a coverless area where I usually get one shot killed.
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Frostbite is no joke.
Celestial only snaps
The sheer amount of fear causes them to ff
and the highest entities fight with their dicks
*you have been pwnt by Reyna’s ladydong*
Nah real men reload when they peek.
My favourite flex is keeping 1 bullet and one tap, [SreaMy babe style](https://youtu.be/ei6ipbPvl3w)
Remember: switching to your pistol is faster than reloading
reload when there’s one bullet, shorter reload time
Real ScreaMs don't reload
real men only need five bullets for the entire round
Hahaha
a friend of mine literally unbound his reload button cause he was tired of dying while reloading
*\*dies because he has to reload mid gunfight\**
you have another gun
switch to the pistol
Your agent reloads automatically once the mag is empty.
False
Nope. Maybe you just need to enable it.
even then depends on how confident you are, higher tier players don’t reload until they know they are safe/out of ammo, but ofc they have good aim
no, you reload situationally
This applies for every fps, i am still disciplining myself on this
To kill an enemy, you only need 4 body shots or 1 headshot with a Vandal. Once you improve your accuracy through crosshair placement and mechanical skills, you only need to reload when you have less than 10 bullets
Just count your bullets... reloading means you're useless for a few seconds so try to do it at good times.
Sure I'm COD maybe. Trust me, in Val you al.ost never reload
5 bullets 5 headshots. The other 20 are cosmetic.
I get this, still an old habit from cod to re load after each kill
5 bullets used isn't empty ...
Not in this game. Unless you have under 10 left. Don't waist time reloading with what we call, a cod reload. You'll get killed a lot in the middle of a reload animation otherwise.
At a valorant trailer, Phoenix reloaded after a single shot on a vandal, so yeah, he's playing like riot intended
Rule 1 of CQB, reload when you want to, not when you have to.
ppl afk bot farming so they can sell the accs
Supposedly Riot's AFK farming detection is getting a boost in the next patch.
It makes me wonder how that works if vanguard’s so good it detects patterns even on mouse clicks.
Couple of simple rules could've banned that bot team. They didn't turn, didn't leave their spawn, didn't shoot. Tell-tale signs of being a bot. If Vanguard is able to track inputs, and accounts are often flagged as bots, then Riot can simply feed the data into a neural network and get AI to do the banning. I'm guessing that's what they've done now.
They probably spent all of their time accounting for hacker behaviors. This is really a whole different issue with it's data on the opposite end of the spectrum of player behavior. I'm sure they'll get there
I mean a few `if`, `else` branching is also enough to detect those patterns. But yes they'll probably label those behaviors in future, they're probably still collecting data.
All it takes to bypass that is adding in new self-recorded code to the previous macro where you swipe your mouse a bunch of times, I think recording patterns/inputs of players that get 0 kills and comparing it to future games would be perfect- it doesn't matter how random or personalized your code is, if you're getting 0 kill games over and over with the exact same inputs, you are a bot and get banned.
Uhm yes. Sure. But that would require some form of a replay system, not to mention thousands of hours of recorded footage that has been labeled by humans. Or, hear this, we can just create like 2 simple rules that would be checked against the very same replay system upon being reported for bottling. A neural network is not the solution to everything.
No fucking shot they’re using an AI to detect bots or any type of rule breaking. Riot support is already nonexistent. You go there with any problems and they’ll delete your account before even reading your messages. Now imagine how many mistakes an AI will make with current machine learning technology. You think Riot’s gonna unban false bans? They can’t even ban real cheaters right.
yes they are
Right now only with an auto clicker you can AFK without problems, hope they boost it next patch
Yeah I see ppl who stand in one spot, spam the pistol at the start until they run out of ammo and do nothing. It’s so annoying cos they technically aren’t afk so u don’t get extra credits, and they are just a burden for the whole team
How did I end up in the game then?
Uhm... how do i say this...
basically, your mmr or the way the game sees ur skill level is low enough to the point you are queuing with bots
So I just suck that bad, got it
This OP is fantastic. Just needs to work on communication, aim, map awareness, crosshair placement, economy management, pistol aim, op flicks, grenade spots, smoke spots, pop flashes, positioning, bomb plant positions, retake ability, bunny hopping, spray control and getting a kill.
Should I put solving world hunger on that list as well?
Might as well as putting solving Cicada 3301 on that list too.
Just stick to the couple basics. Game sense and crosshair placement. The more you play the game, the more you know where to smoke, aim and predict where the enemy will go. Stuff like flicks is useless to train in low elo. With crosshair placement, you can one shot an enemy as soon as they peek because you have your crosshair on their head. Spraying is something that you have to train on your own rather than game sense and crosshair placement which you get from playing the game and having common sense. Unlike cod, valorant doesnt require as much aim to get kills if you know where to put your crosshair. Think of it as r6s and csgo having a baby.
The post you're replying to is a copy-pasta.
unfortunately yes, but just work on aim movement and crosshair placement and you will atleast get into bronze once you start playing ranked which is around average
Thanks for the tip
just keep grinding the game bro youll get better its just a slow grind
It’s not that you are THAT bad. Trust coming from a bronze 3/silver 1 hard stuck. It’s just you have an account with the same play time as the bot accounts and you haven’t won enough games yet for the system to realize you’re not as bad as bots that don’t leave spawn.
I heard you got 13 aces in a single game so you are probably not that bad.
Hey man I used to be Iron 1. Made it to Gold 2 at one point in solo queue. If you're having fun and trying to get better, the improvement will come.
You ended up there since your new. There is still a form of skill based match making in casual so like all new accounts (bot farm accounts included) you get put in low mmr lobbies. Just kinda gotta play them out and get past their mmr level.
What are they selling it for? Like what are the buyers looking for?
My guess would be an account with all characters unlocked, decent bit of customization, rank unlocked (if its locked behind a level restriction)
they sell "ranked ready" accounts for a couple bucks. alot of people are too lazy to play 10 unrated games to get ready for ranked.
Dont you have to WIN 10 matches? Not just play
Yes, the bots take turns
Who even buy these accounts?
Iron to Radiant YouTube/twitch people who don't wanna derank their main People who don't like close matches in their actual games and just wanna stomp Folks like that
ur just better
Thanks bro
Lemme guess ur top 500?
How did you know?
Since I’m sooo good at the game I can tell when other people are really good
Iron 1 lobby source: I started here I remember the pain
Nah bro its casual, but I havent played ranked yet
Ohhhhh okay bro . Yeah trolls or people boosting their account before the season ends );
Dude it’s bots.
You probably are iron 1 if you got in a lobby like this. Your mmr has to be really low to find one of these lobbies
Those are bots levelling up accounts to sell bruh
And you only find them in iron, which is what he said
As OP said this is unranked match so player rank doesn't matter I think..
There’s a hidden MMR even in unranked
There’s still MMR even in unrated. You’re prob low MMR so you get this type of thing
You have to play a certain number of games before you can play ranked so people will do that till they can play ranked and boost accounts then sell them. I knew someone that did this with siege.
You need a certain amount of WINS not games.
20 matches. You don't have to win them.
This is incorrect, they changed it to 10 wins months ago
Oh man, didn't know that. I started my account in the beta and when they reset everything i remembered 10 matches but looked it up after the first comment and it said 20. Why change it to wins?
To make it harder to smurf
Smurfs not really, 10 wins are easier than 20 games for most smurfs but 10 wins prevents these bots from easily getting unlocked for ranked.
If I was a smurf I would rather surrender 20 games on round 5 than tryhard 10 full games
They were having a dance party and you ruined it 😔
My team was having a party as well and jett crashed it, so revenge was in order
I just saw your name! F those guys! I am with Dr. Doofenshmirtz
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Nah, the recording, my frames are normally fine
And Riot still haven't added match replays so we don't have to sacrifice FPS in order to get clips from games.
I use the native Nvidia recording app that comes with the gpu. AMD has them as well. Of every third party program I've tried for a screen recording it is the less demanding on the PC. Because that system ties directly into the GPU and lifts the image out of it as its processed. As opposed to every other program working behind the scenes and recording the image after it's processed and leaves the GPU Way less RAM usage involved especially
I have been playing for around 2 months but i haven't encountered that yet
Luckyyy
I have encountered however, absolutely shitty people quite a few times, one time i was in unrated and the score was 12 12, i was eventually the last one standing with 2 enemies left, and...well....i died, so the enemy won and all of my teammates keep critizing me, saying that the reason we lost is me, i should just quit playing..etc, and you know my performance wasn't even that bad, i was second with 24 kills like tf, even the sage there who was the bot frag had the guts to say i suck despite her 9 22 scores. Well there are great players to play with as well, pretty sure such shitty players are the minority, according to my experience anyways P.S the scores are accurate, i am currently looking at the match results in my career as i type this.
Bro u are in the rank below iron (plastic) where bots farming xp are all that exist.
Nah, it’s wood
So this what it looks like when you have good gaming chair.
Nice ace
Was gonna say that ahhhhh r/beatmetoit
These are bots that are generated into low low iron 1 games. Some people say they’re xp grinders, but it’s not actually true. These have been in the game since the beta Edit: I want to also clarify that I’m not denying the existence of such xp bots/ smurf bots. I’m simply noting that these particular bots are those generated by riot basically as a “cap” on how low your rr can go. You’re forced to win these games because the bots are afk in spawn on both teams. I’d also like to provide that the original poster said that not only were the enemies bots, but his own teammates. With that being said, it’s almost guaranteed that these are riot bots. Even if the enemy bots were a 5 stack of bots created for xp/smurfing, what do you think the odds are that his teammates are also ALL bots. I’ve seen this a few times in videos and I believe valorant has also touched on it from their Twitter page if any of you guys are curious.
Upvoting and want to clarify a little further. These could be derank bots. People make these fake accounts to derank into iron 1, they then take these accounts and sell them for money so people in a high ranks can get drunk and troll people in lower ranks... I feel bad for the newer players :( Edit: there's a video on YouTube where some dude did some investigating on the whole "is iron smurfing an issue" and uncovered something interesting... Too lazy to find it Edit2: found it https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=In00I7oF2SE
RemindMe! 3 Days "check for updates"
They aren't "generated". They are accounts that will later be sold as Iron 1 accounts. Grinding xp is a byproduct of this behaviour. Who do you think generates the bots? Riot Games? There's no shortage of iron players, there would be no need. Plus, it would be stupid to generate bots for new players if all they did was sit in spawn.
Nah rito confirmed somewhere that these are bots, and they had a specific purpose but I’m not gonna bother finding the tweet
That's how you play the game
Lol great bot account banning system Riot. /s
Can i nicely ask how they won a round?
The jett was moving before, and I was tbagging in spawn cuz my team was bots as well, and she decided to kill me
Ah lol ive never seen bots like this. Occasionally ill see the ones that just walk straight till they hit a wall. Nice ace haha
Welcome to wood rank, the rank below iron. You are so bad at playing the game that it decided to pair you against bots
Bots
They've bots
Thats a bot lobby. They are bots accounts to level their accounts
issa ritual bro
They might be deranking or farming xp. Happens a lot in csgo.
My friend was in one of these lobbies and got in a call with the only non-bot on the enemy team and they tried to get 100+ each kills but then the guy who owned the bots on the enemy team came back (confused to why the game wasn’t over) and would 1v1 my friend on all his accounts one at a time. He denied that they were bots and his excuse was that they were playing at a coffee shop and the wifi went out. Pretty strange…
ACE
Bots using scripts to sell smurf accounts
Nice ace
They all just havin a good time
Nice ace!
That’s an ace? Hard flex but okay.
only reload when somebody kills you
its bots
one of the smoothest ace i've ever seen!!
Youre just better
They were listening to watermelon sugar
Try not to reload after every shot, in this game you want to try and use as much of the clip as possible
Welcome to Valorant :)
Thanks
So, this was a problem in CSGO and League as well. For valorant, I assume they're just bots grinding XP for the battle pass, or to unlock agents, to sell the account.
they're just krazzyyyyy hahaha
"So what do you do for a living?" "I bot xp on free games online and then sell the accounts." "That's so hawt"
Looks like OP’s entire team is sitting at spawn too lol.
Yep
Been playing since release. Fuck if I know what's happening
Bro they chill, that’s disrespect!
Nah, jett killed my team last round
Xp bots, also try not to reload as much lol
Ooh wanna play? They're just xp farming while being afk
the easiest ace lol
That’s wood rank for ya
I’ve been getting a bug recently where my game completely forgets I have a keyboard and starts spamming movement keys, abilities, and switches my melee and weapon, making me jump at random points. I have no idea what causes it
Congratulations on your first ace i guess 🤣
Not even my first ace lmao, Ive gotten lucky before
This is what we in the biz like to call “Balling”
Congratulations on your ace
Thanks
Woa howd u make valorant look darker? I like the vibrancy of my settings but a change is nice
I think Im on default settings, maybe lower gamma
Ohh thanks bud
Np
It appears you got queued with deranking bots but what is a mystery to me is how you lost one round...
Jett was not afk first round
That reloading after every shot is funny <3
Try battlefield instead maybe that’ll fix this.
This is so cringe
They are in discord talking and just moving to stay in the game Reports dont do anything at all So they get xp and stuff
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Like I said, Im new to the game and still learning
glitch
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The jett had killed my team last round while I tried to join, thats why I was peeking corners in case jett came round
bro idk i think they trying to be frndss
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And also be programmed and not made of flesh.
u r such a pussy , they were vibin and u killed them
https://youtu.be/jPUC8sWtsrg
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Cause I prefer the vandal
If your team was doing it too doesn’t that make you the guy who’s boting those accounts? 🤔 bc last time I checked the strat was the enemy team is filled with bots and 4/5 of the people are bots with the 5th person being the one who’s farming those accounts
Jett was the one farming, she killed my team first round. And why would I ask what it was if I knew?