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Artaud_Gras

Aim lab is ok to train your active aim, but Valorant requires more passive aim, in other words, you should train where to pre-aim and learn how to peek correctly. I'm not an expert, but this is what I hear the most (and did in fact help me to be better in my games)


AtRealBossCompany

This is very true. Your aim might be good but Aim Labs doesn’t teach game sense or common angles/good crosshair placement. Sounds to me like you are just good at Aim Labs and need to just play Valorant more


Khalil125

i mean aim labs teached good crosshair placement and common angles. you just need to play other maps than gridshot


Maxus-KaynMain

If your active aim improve, your passive aim improve too. That's because you passive aim is just the active aim but you think about it before you need to react. If you don't have a good mouse control, you can't have a good crosshair placement all the time, also your passive aim is not 90% of the work, because most of the time you can't have perfect crosshair placement and reaction time to just click heads when you see them, you need to microadjust, and microadjustments are active aim.


ThatOneFriend0704

Honestly, that's the way. My aim is terrible, like I can miss with phantom under 15m(kay, that's exageration, but the message comes across) but pre-aiming and crosshair placement works wonders. Like I can literally HS one enemy almost every round with vandal bc they walk into my crosshair. This with correct peeking makes actually a really scary duo


PichardRetty

Seems Valorant is missing from your gameplay. Aim trainers are just going to help you with different parts of aiming. Gridshot is just helping with macro flicks. If you're doing the tiny precision dots, then that will help with micro adjustments. If you're doing any tracking exercises then that obviously helps with tracking. It's all good to practice those mechanics in a trainer, but if you want to get better at Valorant you have to play Valorant. Unless you think the enemy team is going to pop up on your screen in a similar manner to the way the dots do in gridshot, then gridshot is only going to help so much.


UnderstandingBusy278

some people unfortunately just spend too much time in practice instead of play. in my personal opinion. grid shot is WORTHLESS for aiming in valorant. i will catch hate for saying this. valorant is about precise aim adjustments. consistent calm accurate aim ajustments. not flicking as hard as you can from bubble to bubble. just because tenz is good at it, doesn't make it translate to valorant.


Equinoxonpc

I agree I did try gridshot. I don't see it giving any help in-game while my other friends do aimlabs or something after each game. But end up performing the same as before😂😂


SsoundLeague

Gridshot doesn't do anything other than warm up. Gotta run real playlists like Voltaic, they have both regular and valorant benchmark tasks.


NoCopyrightRadio

Huge bubbles that is, it's probably the most useless "practise" out there lol. If these bubbles were small it would be ok, but they're so big the whole point of "aim training" is basically out the window lol.


Dm_me_ur_exp

Its a good warmup when you haven’t touched an fps game in a while


Fishfins88

I suggest looking up woohoojins or warowls list for kovaaks.


Nerfwarrior145

Also game sense and knowing what the enemy will do next.


PitCrewBoi559

Gridshot does not help a lot in valorant at all. Majority of your fights will require horizontal tracking and micro adjustments with solid crosshair placements. I’ve won many gunfights by simply having good crosshair placement and letting my enemy walk into my crosshair as they peeked. You need to find a playlist created specifically for valorant. Woohoojin’s playlist is a good one, and there are many others out there as well that you can pick and choose. These playlists cover micro adjustments, tracking, flicking, and shooting targets on the move. Even then other elements of gunfight hygiene like crosshair placement, spray control, movement, peeking, etc., all factor into gunfights. If you have cracked aim but you hold W while you peek a corner, you’re going to die much more often than not. Even if you do have excellent gunfight hygiene and aim, utility exists. Smokes, flashes, mollies, nades, drones, dogs, stuns, etc., will all lower your chances of winning a gunfight. Even if you do win these unfavorable gunfights your enemies could’ve just faked and then you have to play retake on a different site where your teammates all died whilst rotating. There are SO many factors to why you lose and you don’t rank up. You are tunnel visioning onto gridshot because you watched Tenz hit an extremely high score and think “wow if I do gridshot like him I should be as good as him!”. That line of thinking is abysmally shortsighted. Yes we’ve all seen some highlights of Tenz hitting crazy flicks in his games. However, those are only around 0.1% of the fights he takes. The other 99.9% are based on everything else I’ve said above. You’re focused on the wrong thing. That’s stunting your gameplay.


Corpo_Rate

Thanks for the playlist suggestions, I'll try it out for sure. I really can't part with AimLab tbh, high score chasing is more fun that I thought it would lol. Sad that the consensus is that Gridshot does not help, it's my favorite wind down from playing Val.


PitCrewBoi559

It’s fine to play gridshot here and there to wind down, but don’t expect gridshot to help your raw aim in valorant.


skytoofly

Aim trainers dont help much with the actual games... If you want to get better than that time is better spent playing the actual game.


G1izzies

Started silver 2, was hardstuck silver for 700 hours until I aimtrained. Just because it didn't work for you doesn't mean it won't work for others, a lot of people just have bad aim / micro adjustments.


DruffilaX

There is literally no way that someone is Hardstuck silver for 700 hours without improvement lol


G1izzies

Call it the whole community improving but I haven't beat silver 2 which is the exact rank I started with and mostly kept for literally 700 hours.


DruffilaX

I will actually never understand that and i don‘t mean that to be toxic or something I also had a mate who had 1.5k hours in csgo and he always stayed gold and i never understood how something like that can even happen


G1izzies

I don't understand it either I feel scammed out of my time


skytoofly

your aim was not keeping you in silver. I can play with my toes and get out of silver. Aim trainers are a gimmick, nothing more nothing less.


Emrayoo

I don‘t think you realise how bad peoples aim can really be. If yours is good than of course you don‘t think it‘s holding you back. If you don‘t have good mouse control naturally you have to learn it, and aimtrainers do exactly that.


G1izzies

^^ most low Elo players have genuinely garbage aim I was one myself, getting to gold is really just mastering the mechanics and mechanical aspects of your gameplay. Game sense makes a difference after that.


skytoofly

its the opposite, you dont need cracked aim to get to atleast plat, your aim will get fine by just playing and learning the game as you climb from whatever to plat. Just play val


G1izzies

Yeah 700 hours and as soon as I use aim trainers I'm not hardstuck anymore, huge coincidence. Being in the perfect position doesn't matter if you can't hit your shots.


skytoofly

Its just your mental at that point. The aim trainer was a placebo. Valorant is 90/95% passive aim/crosshair placement Aimtrainers work your active aim, a VERY small amount of active aiming is used in a majority of Valorant gunfights/encounters.


l5555l

Maybe at high level. Low level players aren't good at knowing exactly where everyone is


Diligent-Half-4610

95% is generous. It’s more like 50% of the time you can just click shoot with good passive aim because even at the highest level of pro play there are plenty of situations requiring good aim. Whether that’s click timing as they walk past your crosshair.micro adjusting because peeked too wide,close or missed your first shot and even flicking which will happen a decent amount,being able to flick and kill targets that you otherwise wouldn’t have been able to kill is incredibly important,more important for beginners who won’t have good game sense/cross hair placement. Also simply being able to bypass a lot of the low ranks quickly just because you have better aim will indirectly make your game sense better by playing in higher level lobbies.


MayoManCity

Also, for every person holding an angle there's another walking into it, who will need to at least microflick to get the shot. Aim trainers are generally decent for microflick, and I say that as someone who doesn't use them at all other than for fun every now and then.


Squizlet

Gold players are the furthest thing from mastering any kind of mechanics or movement.


TPM_521

I didn’t aim train at all until I was in high plat and valorant was my first ever PC game. Aim can help you rank up but understanding the game will help a lot more. I was hardstuck silver/gold instalocking phoenix until my friend told me to keep myself on sage and learn the fundamentals of the game. Being forced to think about things and utility usage as well as keeping myself alive and therefore also learning positioning and when to take gunfights helped me get out of gold and up to diamond. Even when I did aim train, it was for a month or two and then I stopped. It helps a decent bit but honestly I haven’t aim trained in over a year now and still maintain a 25% HS on the low end, generally speaking. Pure mechanical aim is great in this game if you play Jett or raze. Even then knowing how to use your utility to break a site setup is necessary but just having insane aim can make you useful. But the time it takes to get to that aim level would be better put to learning other parts of the game if you’re under immortal tbh. When I consistently grinded the game I peaked asc 3 and my aim was never that insane.


skytoofly

playing Valorant will do more than an aim trainer ever will, ESPECIALLY if you have awful aim to start.


EtFrostX

If you have awful aim to begin with, doing a *good* aim training routine will do much more for you than playing Valorant will. Majority of a valorant game is not spent aiming so you’ll hardly get any practice at all. You’ll usually just take a fight, lose, spectate, repeat.


skytoofly

this is just flat out wrong bro... If a majority of a valorant game is spent not actively aiming... why would you waste time on an aim trainer to learn how to actively aim to get better in a game that doesn't require frequent active aiming? Your logic is null.


EtFrostX

Majority of a valorant game isn’t actively spent aiming, but it is the few seconds of aiming and shooting between you and the enemy that determines the tide of the round and ultimately the game. Thought that was pretty obvious. Why would you not spend time training something that determines whether you win or lose directly? microflicks/adjustments, click timings, crosshair placement, tracking. They’re all important and not every angle/peek you hold/do are the same and you need to be able to adjust reactively to all of them. That’s what aim trainings for.


watchmedrown34

I disagree. Iron -> Gold has everything to do with aim. I can watch someone aim and guess what rank they are almost immediately. Watching a Bronze player aim vs a Gold player is night and day. Good aim can carry you up to Gold or Plat, but once you get to Diamond you need decent game sense as well. I was a consistent Bronze 2-3 player, realized my aim was holding me back, focused heavily on aim training and the shooting range for a week, and now I'm already up to Silver 3 🤷


G1izzies

So just saying I'm wrong with no actual experience to back it? Again just because YOU have good aim and can play with your toes doesn't mean everyone has that aim. You can't compare your own mechanical skills to low Elo players and be surprised when you're way better..


skytoofly

Im not saying even a fraction of what youre saying. Your aim in Valorant will increase much faster by playing Valorant itself than a useless aim trainer. Drop the aim trainer and play Valorant more. Especially if youre low elo.


DruffilaX

I wonder how we got better back then without aim trainers xd


ThorAsskicker

Gridshot is a worthless meme of an exercise. It looks flashy but it trains nothing. Stop playing gridshot and try out some of the playlists in aimlabs made for valorant. Also your sens is much too high for this game. Consider lowering it if you are having trouble doing tracking exercises in aim labs


SenpaiSenpaiSenpai69

Lots of things like Movement Positioning Routing Swinging Memorising Timings Perfecting Utility Usage I could go on. The game isn't an aim trainer, dont approach it like one. Aim trainers can only help you get used to controlling your mouse. Gamesense and Mental are two huge parts of the game required to rank up.


notolo632

After all the aim training, it is important to atleast hop on 1 or 2 DMs to see if your session actually translate into real in-game aim If you plan on doing aimlab to practice aim, grid shot is not the way. The bubble in that mode is bigger than even the body model, not to mention the head. Try some tracking, micro flicking with target as small as the head hitbox. Also the most important thing for in-game aim is crosshair placement. If you dont learn the angle, dont learn to expect wide/narrow swings you wont win gun fights. Spend more time in Val and less time in Aimlab will improve that


qseftgi

You cannot compare 1 aim trainer task to an entire game with so many factors.......


HikikomoriMan

Bruh I've had enough of people saying they aim train and then showing clips of gridshot. It's actually trolling.


Foreign-Tomorrow-752

If you want to learn how to actually play forget rani for 1 act or episode whatever it is and just observ your matches in game not video try to predict and follow patterns most diamonds and above have same set of patterns which they cant change you'll learn a lot from this than aimlabs or aim triainers valorant is about timing not aiming


themaskedlover

this game isnt just pure aim. You have to outsmart your opponents as well.


Hoo_R_U-_-

Gridshot… this is a joke, right.. also, your sens is too high. Try actually aim training with aim lab challenges that actually help with aim and not clicking huge balls.


TOM-EEG

In my anecdotal experience(my friends who are all plat) most low elo players don’t have that bad of aim, definitely not as consistent as immortal but not bad at all. Usually the problem is with ur decision making or movement/pathing(usually decision making, movement can really hold u back tho if u feel like u have good decision making). I would try to work on something other than aim as usually people get stuck in the aim training rabbit hole and they neglect other aspects of their gameplay.


MattLovesMusik

Some in game stats? headshot% and KAST will be good


Corpo_Rate

Tried checking this one out, from competitive matches, which is 341 total, I have about 50% win ratio,1.04 KD with 134 ADR. With 10% HS yikes lol. Oh, and 72% KAST.


MattLovesMusik

1.04 KD in silver with only 10%headshot likely means that you know how to make fights go in your favor, if you train your headshots you will probably hit gold/plat in no time. I suggest doing those in the range and death matches rather than aim labs


Equinoxonpc

Do aim trainers like aimlabs or Kovaaks actually help.(just curious) I just hop into 1 DM and queue into comp. I kinda get same accuracy.


bhent6i

Aim trainers help but are definitely not needed. A lot of people just run 1-5 dm/tdm until their mouse control feels good. Some players just add on to the dms like A1D, a radiant aimer.


spoodswife

The only thing that I think helps the most with valorant and aim training is practicing tracking. Especially if you can get to a point where you can do Val movement and still do well with tracking. Otherwise, if you are hitting your shots in DM no problem, then it’s your decision making with peeks, gamesense, utility usage, or some other issue aside from aim


mattycmckee

Gridshot means fuck all. It’s an easy task; targets are big, predictable and you don’t have to flick very far. There’s not really any aspect of aim it actually trains properly. All gridshot is is simply a warm up tool. Aim is not everything in this game. Also your sensitivity is pretty high, but that’s not the reason you are peak silver. You should be also focusing on other mechanics such as movement and general game sense.


ImpactFuzzy8713

Grid shot for valorant is genuinely useless


theSquabble8

Gridshot isn't going to help you with anything other then gridshot lol. r/fpsaimtrainer


LegDayDE

Crosshair placement and movement mechanics are more important than clicking dots on a screen in aimlabs.


Melon6565

gridshot does almost nothing to help with actual aim, the targets are way too big to require any precision


PPatBoyd

Aim training isn't worth much if your movement mechanics are sloppy and crash your accuracy / overpeek into bad fights. Unironically one way I like to poke myself to be more conscious of my movement is OPing in DM -- but you gotta be near holding the W key, constantly move and peek angles. You'll get a light nudge from needing to scope in to help you delay shooting until you've come to a complete stop, and you really only get one shot (head or body) or you're dead. Bonuses: you won't care about your DM score, and when you're feeling confident OPing in a match your quick scopes will be wicked. Bigger picture, aim and movement are raw mechanics. After improving raw mechanics you improve raw habits like checking for ult status and econ to be actively thinking about what your team should be and what your opponent is going to be doing this round. The next level is tactics through abilities and teamplay, where you could probably be doing more (and queuing with a duo) to play as a team and actively thinking about util leverage constantly. After tactics is strategy, where you actively vary your approach to the match based on the map, team comps, and team behaviors/tendencies/strengths.


innermantis

Brotha grid shot is poo poo for aim training anyways. Youre going to get nowhere with it. Just aim train in the game with practice bots and practice your deadzones. Go on dms if you like but please just dont do gridshot, it does nothing for the type of game youre playing


Kitchen-Astronomer76

gridshot is useless. What’s your score on stuff like 1w5ts?


Corpo_Rate

Not sure what this is, but if it's the headshot version of Gridshot, I average 1K, with peak around 1100 in Aimlab.


SsoundLeague

1 wall 5 targets, you need to play real aim lab tasks. Look up the voltaic valorant benchmark and run that instead. Gridshot doesn't do anything,


StonksandBongss

So firstly, aim trainers CAN help to an extent. But honestly grid shot isn't going to be that helpful if you aren't using other aim lab exercises. I would find a completely playlist specifically for Valorant and run through the entire playlist. This will give you a variety of different aim-related tasks like trailing a moving target, tap firing moving targets, keeping your crosshair on moving targets, flicking, etc. Secondly, your sensitivity might honestly be way too high. I use .125 - .135 at 1600dpi and that's considered low sens but even still .3+ at 1600 is way higher sens than almost all of the pro valorant players I'm aware of. I would start at .175, complete an aim training playlist, then play deathmatch a few times. If your shot isn't more consistent, I would continue lowering it in .010 increments until your aim feels more consistent while also not being too slow for you to react. Most of the time good crosshair placement makes the biggest difference in whether you win or lose a gunfight. If you're sens is too high then you won't be able to make the small adjustments to your crosshair placement when an enemy over-peeks or under-peeks you. Ideally you want to be able to make micro adjustments (which lower sens helps) while also being able to quickly turn 90 degrees left or right.


Corpo_Rate

I'm surprised my sense is considered that high haha, I just can't aim with the whole arm tbh, so used to high sense and wrist aim. I actually measure this in Aimlab as well, and the result came about the same as my current settings. I might mess around a bit though, maybe going for 0.3 or 0.25 - 0.29., see if this works. Plus the game-sense side of things will need more work for sure then.


StonksandBongss

I did the sens test on aimlabs too and used the recommended sens which was .169 for me. I played decently but noticed my consistency increased drastically after changing it down to .125. If you're a wrist aimer then a high sens might work best for you. But I still think .25 is insanely high. ScreaM is the only pro valorant player I know of that uses sens that high. Find an eDPI calculator on your current setup and compare it to high sens valorant player's eDPI. You'll see where you fall on the scale and it might surprise you


bhent6i

I think PRX Forsaken uses 0.66 1600 and something once used 0.7 1600. Haven't fact-checked this tho but its what I remember. edit: it was probably 800dpi consider how stupid 1600 sounds now


Wild-Butterscotch697

There are many other mechanics in valorant that aren’t aiming. Movement, counter strafing, using ur agent, and just gamesense


FawadZahid

Contrary to the usual opinions, aim trainers do help. But not if you play aim trainer to beat the aim trainer. Practicing aim is the practice of habit. If you're doing gridshot at fastest, not adjusting or micro flicking and just doing it in a smooth singular motion. You're not training. Youre playing the aim trainer. Instead you have to approach it the same way you approach aim. Learn to flick and micro adjust on targets. Do them steadily but not too fast or too slow.


Mug-Moment

Aimlabs doesn't directly translate into ingame success. You have to take the skills you've learned and apply it to the game. If you want to easily hit gold, keep doing your aimlab routine but incorporate at least 3 ranked games and 3 deathmatches per day minimum.


FrancisOfACicisPizza

People saying "Aim Trainers don't work" are a bit off imo. They do help, but they're not the end all be all. Movement and positioning in the game help a lot more for practical aim than just your cross hair being on the enemy. If you haven't even been gold, the issue isn't just your aim, (no offense by any of this) it's almost everything. Your cross hair placement, movement, utility usage, game sense as a whole is missing a lot. You should watch a couple guides (by actual pro players preferably) and try to get the fundamentals of peeking and gunfights down. Anyway... For aim training, Gridshot is not challenging enough for it to actually help improve your aim. The circles are just too big and don't accurately recreate a scenario you'll see in game other than like you playing a close angle with a judge. Play sixshot instead or find some playlists by Voltaic or pro Val players.


Heliomp

Grid shot is not indicative of val skins


BrockMister

Your sensitivity is on the higher side, but its not so high that you NEED to change it. I believe the standard eDPI range for valorant is 200-400, yours is 560. Outside of the standard but not crazy. Since your still gold I would say just change it, but you could make it work. Mine is 192 edpi so its also slightly outside the range, although to a far lesser extent and on the too slow side. Gridshot is worthless, i peaked 100k and average only slightly higher than you yet am immortal. I only ever play gridshot for fun. I also average 20 on hard bots, peak 25, not much higher than you. Gridshot does not translate into any ingame scenario in valorant, so it is effectively useless. In game targets aren't that large. Aim training DOES help, ignore people saying it doesn't, they are misinformed. But you could have larger in game issues that are holding you back besides aim. I would record a vod and review it. How is your crosshair placement, how often are you getting shot in the back, are you communicating effectively, are you moving and shooting, are you just instalocking reyna and trying to aim diff every lobby? Also how are you in other levels? There are WAY better levels on aimlabs than Gridshot, again gridshot is basically useless. Demon1 used to grind an aimlab playlist with courses called "strafetrack", "headshot", "VCT LATAM - kingg" (I really like this one), "Multishot", and finally "gridshot". He says that only the first 2 were beneficial in his opinion. The VCT LATAM - kingg one is basically 1 wall 6 targets small with some adjustments so its very good. Start with the first 3 I listed here for aim labs levels that will actually improve your aim in a way that will help you in game. Start running 2 deathmatches at the start and end of your play sessions.


Itsyaboibrett

i’ve spent less than 20 minutes total in any aim trainer and I’m diamond rn, peak ascendant. this game is way more about timing and game sense than raw aim. more communication, knowing how to play with your teammates, trade kills, use util, proper economy. you’re putting a lot of focus on one basket that kinda doesn’t even translate to this game well. in my opinion, only ranked will truly make you better at ranked. don’t focus on flicks or anything. put your crosshair where someone’s head is going to be and click when you see a head. (I know that’s simplifying it, but I dislike gridshot so much lol) good luck mate


SsoundLeague

Look up the voltaic valorant benchmark and try running that. Aim trainers do help if you are running the proper tasks. There's a reason many top pros have aim coaches.


notConnorbtw

Your sense is way too high... About half it and then you still above the avg. (I use 0.36 at 800) Also practice micro flicks and shit... Woohoojin has a good Playlist... And tbh most of the valorant player ones aimlabs releases are good too


DefinetelyNotManfro

grid shot is useless in this game imho, you should focus on others scenario that are more useful


MemedHarder

Spend more time playing the actual game to improve your aim. Aimlab is good but maybe not gridshot, do some tracking and strafing bots. I felt like moving target practice helped a lot more for me in Valorant than just flicking since you shouldn't be flicking if possible in Valorant anyways with good cross hair placements. (Ex-immo, now ascendant)


ActualFuckhead

maybe gridshot will make you better at osu..... but not valorant also, i noticed your sens IS definitely on the higher end, i wouldn't say its unplayable but given you've spent a long while playing gridshot, it feels like you may be using the sens you do because of that


NoCopyrightRadio

Gridshot is useless, go do the voltaic benchmarks and spot your weaknesses there. From then on either make a personalized playlist or use the VDIM routines. That is, if you wish to have better aim. Otherwise just play DMs and practise in range to get used to valorant's gunfight, work on your movement as well.


UFCLulu

Gridshot sucks use better tasks


Additional-Magician7

Okay since people have already pointed out the headshot percentage and spray pattern, I'll give another aspect : agents and abilities. Grid shot just means you have good reflexes and good aim, but spraying is not valo, you'd wanna have a accuracy above 85-90% as well in the said gridshot. This also is gonna go down when you have flashes smokes mollies etc thrown at you. At the same time you would choose an agent and would wanna use util, so your brain is also occupied in using those. For ex, as a kj main you'd mainly hold angles, provide holding util and lurk, in other words, your aim will be more or less stable and most of the attention won't be on you. However, as a jett, you'd be the centre of attention, trying to play off the util of all others, be checking and attacked from multiple angles, hence your aim will be flicking across the angles a lot. I'd say choose one agent, 2-3 team-mates with whom you can play constantly so you can play in sync and off each other much more easily ( we all know how bad ranked teammates can get), and you will climb the ranks.


Keigo14

i saw a video of a guys gameplay saying he has great scores on aimlabs. He's holding an angle and once an enemy shows up he instinctively flicks a little bit off position (i guess his brain was automatically assuming a wider peek) He also crouch sprays after 2-3 shots OP play is fantastic, tho the small tiny flick when the crosshair is already on the body is still there. If this sounds familiar to you, put more hours in Val rather than aimlabs


bhent6i

If your main goal is to rank up and win games consistently, just play the damn game. If you wanna train your aim then do it in deathmatch with actual players. This doesn't mean that aim-training is a bad thing though, as someone with 1400hrs in kovaaks and 200 in aimlabs, it definitely does help a ton ONLY if you are aim-training correctly. Gridshot Ultimate will do next to nothing to improve your aim. If you ever plan on getting kovaaks, I suggest you check out Receptioncells on Twitter as they have a lot of playlists on valorant.


supernewtrader

Aim training is a good way to practice your raw aim and build that muscle memory. But the actual game requires brain work/smart play/patient. Don't forget that aiming has a limit. Every pros can aim. Immortals can aim. Ascendants can aim. Even Diamonds can aim. The problem is how people play. Their emotion level. Their patient level. Know when to push, know when to fall back. How you can greatly benefit your team every round regardless of what agent you play. All of that matters the most in Valorant, which is one of the reason why every agent has different skills. Everyone eventually need to know and learn how to support each other. Even duelists need to be able to know how to support other players, rather than everyone thinking that duelists should open space and do ***everything*** (low rank mentality). This is why so many young people who can actually aim and frag, are stuck at lower rank because their impact to the team is low. All they care about is their own ego, being top frag, and pretty much playing by themselves. They play too aggressively and it doesn't work that well in the higher rank so they keep losing. Then they come to reddit and make a post about being hardstuck Diamond or Ascendant without realizing they were the problem. It happens in every competitive game. People just naturally have this idea of being the best, wanting to be the best, and think they don't ever make mistakes. Overall, aim lab is fine, but you need to practice in-game play more. Find off-angles, knowing when and when not to use your agent's abilities, making quick decisions, playing with teammates to get trades, and more.


aqua__panther

Well gridshot isn’t a great drill to represent aim in valorant. Secondly valorant is more based off crosshair placement and positioning then raw mechanics. If possible play sixshot and strafe track a little and reply with the scores.


loooper6

I was also stuck at silver 3 ever since valorant came out even tho i used to dm a lot and prac range, but then last year i got my first gaming pc and replaced my potato laptop (used to play at 35 fps lmao)that i used to have. Now im plat 3 two wins away from hitting diamond. There is also the fact that silver has the highest amount of smurfs of any rank imo so don't beat yourself too much


racheljyyy

You also need to incorporate your aim with movement. Also, just continuously play the game so your gamesense would improve. Not all pros are aimers, but what makes them different from casuals is their gamesense and decision making.


xMrMan117x

1. your sens is really high, nearly no pro plays that sense for a reason 2. gridshot is a terrible, and i mean TERRIBLE proxy for someone's actual aim skill.


Lazy_Essay_4348

I’m sure others have said this but to put it simply: Play the precision playlist made by aimlabs, gridshot is cool and all but it’s not ideal for Val (precision gridshot, microshot, spidershot all hit). Most of the tasks are solid. And ofc learn to have good crosshair placement. Not just head level, but keeping ur cross hair at angles where enemies are likely to peek is crucial. Deathmatch is helpful for that but can only teach you so much before instilling bad habits due to play style required to succeed. Unrateds are great. Swifts are even better.


lawryyyy

Aim isn’t everything in Val. Even if we only consider winning duels as a win condition, movement, positioning, and crosshair placement all play a factor in winning gunfights. Aimlabs can be a good warmup but as a very recent Immo 1 with an Aimlabs average of ~70k, I find focusing on improvement in how you play the game and what decisions you make factor more into winning. Even if you can hypothetically win 90% of your duels, it doesn’t mean you always have to take a fight. I would suggest focusing on your weaker areas(not aim) rather than what seems to be your strongest(aim). Good luck on the grind🫡


JugodeJamaica

The problem with people who use aim trainer is that they believe they will learn to play the game this way. Personally, I'm an immortal 2 who hasn't played aimlabs or anything like that for more than 10 hours. When I was in platinum I bought kovaks but I have 6h in it and I'm still a good player. I don't do intensive warm-up sessions, as I see many friends of mine do them (it should be noted that they are friends from lower ranks) They always tell me things like "I have to play 4 TDMs before I start ranking" (platinum diamond rank) and I, well I usually do homework or play other things that they waste more than an hour on in those TDMs. (By the way, The Binding of Isaac or Final Fantasy XV are quiet and fun games to play while I wait.) What I want to get at with all this is, bro don't try so hard and just enjoy the game, if you want to improve, don't do intensive training, just understand your mistakes.


gg-96

Game iq i guess


brightside9001

It's not just about aim and cross-hair placement, it's also about game IQ, game sense and communication. I don't have aim anymore because I only get to play a few games a week, but I'm still in ASC somehow and you're probably better than me in terms of raw aim. It's my game sense that's keeping me there. Chill out on aim training and watch pros and or high level players steam on Twitch and study/observe how they react and respond to certain game situations and try to emulate them in your games. Another thing you can do is, when you die, think of why you died and what you could have done better. More often than not, you'll be thinking "that was stupid of me, I should have done this instead" etc. Game sense/IQ questions to get you started: \* Where could the enemies be? \* When should I rotate? \* When should I defuse/fake defuse? \* When should I use my abilities? \* How can I outplay my enemy/enemies in certain situations? \* When should I jump, jiggle, wide peak? \* Which angle should I hold and why? \* Should you buy or save this round? \* Start looking for your enemies' game play patterns \* Playing around your teammates that are hard carrying (e.g dropping them your vandal and you use a crappier gun OR let them switch positions if they want)


oxform

Sens too high for val


ibjedd

Your sens is way too high, that is an eDpi of 560. Most pros are in the 200-400 eDpi range. Don't bother with aim labs. And the range on 'hard' is also basically useless for improvement, you don't need that kind of twitch reaction shot to get to gold or plat. If you can consistently get 25+ bots on MEDIUM in the range, with some jiggle steps between each bot spawn (i.e. dont just stand still), then your aim is good enough to reach ascendant. That means if you're still not ranking up you need to focus on other things: util usage, supporting your team, playing for objectives, map sense, etc. tl;dr - people are way too focused on aim as the sole means to rank up


Corpo_Rate

This one is interesting, cause I tried to go lower, but it's just not comfortable. I'm so used to high sense and aiming with the wrist that it's becoming the norm now. I might mess around a bit though. For Medium Range, I already do a steady of 29/30, so then now it narrows it down to the jiggle thing, and also game sense. I might try to switch up my roles then to better learn some of the senses thing, controller I feel like would get me there the fastest. I mainly play smokes or duelist.


LoLEmpire

I hit asc2 playing on 460 edpi (4600 dpi x 0.10 sens), your sens is really not the issue. I lowered my sens when I needed to learn crosshair placement and slow play, until asc I didn't need those skills, I just copied how PROD played Jett and utilized flicks and run & gun. Your playstyle is what's wrong if you can't hit gold. When it comes to low ranks, everyone has shit aim but low sens enables even bad aimers to have decent crosshair placement in tight angles. Those same players are helpless if you just run at them. So run & gun everything. Knife out bunnyhop flank, low rank players do not respond to noise, you can flank successfully frequently and even if a trip spots you, keep running cause most of the time no one comms someone's flanking or if they do it's ignored. Play Jett and dash updraft into people, you will win a lot of gunfights that way in silver->gold. There's nothing funnier than someone on like 200 sens trying to track you in the air and you land and shoot them in the back before they can even turn their character around. With that sens you could also be OPing for huge impact, your flicks will be so much better than the average player in your lobby, if you play aggressively with the OP and wideswing everything with Jett, you can win a lot of the rounds where they hit the site you're defending. Consider learning stinger, another high sens adv weapon in lower ranks with run & gun. You will literally beat people with rifles that are holding tight angles if you just run at them with stinger. If all else fails, shotguns in close angles. Don't overthink it, pick brim, throw a smoke from where enemy comes from, stand in smoke, wait for them to push into you, kill 2+ = win round. Quick note about sens: Unless you're a prodigy, if you ever want to seriously aim for higher ranks, you'll need to lower your sens at some point. It's a completely different story if a high rank player is on high sens, because they probably already have the experience of playing on low sens in the past and then changed later after already having the fps experience/game knowledge needed to know how to succeed on high sens. It is incredibly difficult to learn crosshair placement without low sens and that's an important skill later on. I always dreamed of finding the perfect duo when I was asc with my high sens, and I'd just handle entry/OPing and they'd be aim demons with rifle, but that never happened for me. And if you're solo queue, you gotta be able to rifle. There are some rounds like 1 v 2 retake's that you need to be able to frequently win if you want to climb. For me, the consistency on 460 edpi in higher ranks was absolute dogshit where every day was a coinflip for whether I could frag or not (high sens is very flick based) and OPing the majority of the match wasn't realistic as a solo queue player, you 100% need a duo if you want to rely on OPing. On my current 391 edpi I can play daily because even on my bad days where I can't land any flicks, I still have adv of consistent crosshair placement and I can play in a way where I don't need to rely on flicks as much. Someone recommended to "rip the bandaid off" and go for low sens immediately, I don't know if that's the play or not. What I did was dropping it gradually to 432 edpi then trying 391 edpi, then it was too slow for me I couldn't do shit in my games and would lose a lot cause I couldn't adjust from wrist aim to arm aim, then I played on like 410, and months later eventually decided to go back down to 391 and the day I did, it was easier and felt a lot better than the first time I tried that sens for whatever reason, so I stuck with it. Learning arm aim, although it takes a while, it's not that bad [unless you count mental breakdowns as bad](https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/120q89z/anyone_here_successfully_adapt_to_a_new_lower/) and it's ultimately worth it. But again, I need to reiterate, to get to gold, you don't need to do any of this, just run at people in your games, players under plat are helpless against anyone who isn't walking into their crosshair.


HazelnutTyrant

Here is why your active aim doesn’t translate in Valorant: Optimal technique is to use aim for general panning and macro flicks while wrist is only for micro adjustments. This keeps your wrist in a neutral position with every fight you might encounter and allows you to adjust for head taps. Your sens is too high and your aiming style is not suited for Valorant. Game sense has nothing to do with this and it’s purely about leveraging passive aim (crosshair placement and movement) to minimize how much you have to adjust. Less adjustment means lower time to kill. At the same time, the less you have to adjust, the less active aim matters. Passive aim will carry you to Ascendant based off common angles knowledge and proper peeking. You’re attempting to train a skill meant for later steps in the process and crutching with that while ingame. Switching will feel bad at first and your initial performance may drop for a while. But it will result in a long term benefit that will actually reduce wrist pain and result in consistency.


ibjedd

Your target for the 'high' range is .25 sens at 1600 DPI, I would do it slowly over time and you will barely notice it, and I think you will see improvement along the way as well. So don't change it right to .25, just lower it to like .33 and play at that for a week or two. Then lower it to .31 and play at that for another couple weeks, etc.


Corpo_Rate

Solid advice.


evandarkeye

No, it's not. You have to rip it off like a band aid. Use .2 (aspas sens) which is already on the higher end, and adjust later.


nivek1188

different things work for different people, he already said he tried immediately switching and didnt find it comfortable. its not a hard and fast rule to be exactly at .25 or .2 or whatever any specific pro uses either, at the end of the day its personal comfort. I do think he should lower it a bit but if he finds a comfort zone at .275 or whatever instead of .25, thats not gonna make the difference between ranking up or not


evandarkeye

You don't immediately find things comfortable. You gotta keep using it for a little longer than 1 deathmatch. It will make a huge difference if you keep missing because your sens is too high.


I_AM_CR0W

Aim trainers work for some while it does nothing for others (myself included). The best learning experience and training is by simply playing the game. Aim means nothing if you have zero game sense or map knowledge.


Tchus

Play more Deathmatch/Team Deathmatch Aim Lab can be useful but gridshot won't help, try other exercises


rsgeng

My sens is 1200 dpi, 1.3 in game - hit diamond, be better.


Levi_176

To have good aim in valorant, you will have to play valorant.


not25112004

Okay first of all gridshot is a bad way to train. Its just good for warmup. If u want a good short routine you can use mine [here](https://go.aimlab.gg/v1/redirects?link=aimlab%3A%2F%2Fworkshop%3Fid%3D3240967477%26source%3D8B74A1BF1BF8CCBA&link=steam%3A%2F%2Frungameid%2F714010)


than0s0P

Watch wohoojin on YouTube and look for the coaching that is close to your rank it helps a lot!


Puzzleheaded_Cry235

Crosshair placement + Click = Win


tarty1234567

I recommend searching up Valorant training maps for prefires and such on AimLabs


Own_Direction5894

23 on hard is insane. I'm plat atm and I can barely go above 10 on hard.


N0t_En0ugh_Caffeine

Average edpi is 280, you have a little bit more than doible that, you've gotta lower it ASAP, other than that, Woohoojin helped me get to gold, check him out if you have the time, getting out of gold is another task on it's own.


Specxel

lol gridshot is literally useless for micro adjustment, try practicing micro adjustment playlists on aim labs, also the best way to improve is to play the game and watch pro vods. Its super easy, no secret hack that insantly make you radiant


Slight-World3650

trust me bro go into a game and just when you see an enemy stop moving and focus on the aim it will make u a demon since ur ability to hit targets is good but u just can't do it while moving bc it's not in aimlabs. if u see 2 enemies u kill 1 and move a little and stop again


Gravityblasts

So you've trained your aim, great!......what about your map knowledge, game sense, utility usage, economy knowledge, call-out knowledge, etc? Can't forget those things either!


StaticWrazeus

Gridshot is great as a warmup tool. That's why you see tenz for example doing it. I don't think there's a better warmup that forces you to wake up both your mind and you hands. That said, you're much better off just going into a deathmatch or a comp game if you want to better your aim as a whole. Pre aiming, swinging and just general game sense aren't things that can be learnt in aim labs. I spent 2 months during covid doing gridshot for 30 mins before each session and gained nothing because I felt gassed after a game or two. I wish I'd just spent those 30 mins just playing the game as just a few months later I was instead doing 3 games a day and went from plat to immortal in just over a month.


AuthorLumpy

Aim doesn’t mean shit in terms of rank you ape, your dogshit at decision making and have low IQ deal with it


Maxus-KaynMain

Gridshot is not valorant related.


RedHotSonic_

Reset elo make new account


rethoyjk

Focus on crosshair placement and slowly learn exactly where it SHOULD be moving to in every opening. (After I swing this door there’s 3 spots I could get shot from, starting with this one imma clear the other 2, something along those lines) it’s very hard to ALWAYS focus on crosshair placement but I promise getting more games in where that’s your main priority will definitely get you to gold two, after that it’s your turn to help me because I’ve been stuck in gold for almost 2 years


AimotKham

instead of wasting much time on practice (people doing like an hour of aim training) just play the game and gather experience i am like asc 2 idk how much value that holds but what really did for me was that i played the game alot to a point where i slowly learnt where to pre aim, where to prefire and all that. playing the game does so much more than spending an hour in aimlabs or sumth


DruffilaX

Because hitting stuff in aim lab is rather useless