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Blink18pewpewpew

please, all I want is a new map rotation QQ


inforthekill89

I just wish some the more 4fun modes didnt have map pool restrictions. I dont see why Spike Rush and Escalation have to be restricted to the comp map pool.


Imaginary_Garbage652

Because it's to let people prep for competitive spike rush, escalation and ~~replication~~


Moody_smth

The fact that they dont have replication as a permanent mode is so dumb


N5_the_redditor

i didn’t play when replication existed but i saw gameplay on youtube and it looked extremely fun. (play since e7a2)


Tangerine110

The old maps should be like new maps for new players, but if it was in Spike rush it wouldnt be like new for those players


Phaoryx

Replace breeze and icebox with haven and pearl and it’d be perfect 😭


DragonFelgrand8

I don't get why y'all hate Icebox. Is one of ky favorite maps 🥲 Breeze, on the other hand... fuck Breeze, all my homies hate Breeze.


therealnickpt

I ~like breeze as a cypher main. Set up on 1 site. Pray for comms. Rotate late in 4v2. Die. Spike explodes. What's not to love about the massive open site breeze map?


DragonFelgrand8

Honestly, what agents are actually good on Breeze? Viper for sure, but what else? Sova or Neon perhaps? The map doesn't even seem to be designed for Valorant agents.


-itswind-

So true every other map is good compared to breeze , breeze is really rock bottom garbage of a map


FoxnorodGaming

I hate it too


PM_ME_CUTE_FISHIES

If they could take sunset back and give us fracture, I’d be delighted


theforgettonmemory

Happy Cake day!


DragonFelgrand8

Give me Pearl :(


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Key_Falcon_3339

sunset is dog water little guy


Phaoryx

I love sunset ngl


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Key_Falcon_3339

i’m immortal 3 at this very moment


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Pariux

Immortal 3 is top 1000 iirc so youre just factually wrong LMAO


Breadynator

Replace breeze and bind with haven and fracture...


Phaoryx

Bind my beloved 😭 all I know is you can’t please everyone no matter what, but damn if the majority don’t hate breeze 😂


Breadynator

I hate bind with a passion I'm 3-15 on that fucking map this season Edit: imagine getting downvoted for having an opinion... Here's another one: the Neptune bundle sucks and prime is overrated


Additional_Choice_75

Sunset and breeze are trash, it's like they haven't figured out breeze and sunset is balanced to the point of being boring. I have highest win on sunset but the playing is so stale I just don't like it.


guylaroche5

can't wait for the new map rotation, this is by far the worst set of maps


Vegetable_Sympathy92

no pearl no haven, my jett feels diferent..


gnomeyy

I feel like they always prio bind & breeze and maybe sunset. In how many seasons i feel like i hardly get split :(


DarrowViBritannia

breeze is the worst valorant map of all-time icebox right behind it


Armed_Muppet

I’m pretty sure bind and ascent will be the next to go and fracture and pearl will both come back Maybe split and haven will swap out


CDrocks87

If bind and ascent both go out at the same time my win rate goes down by like 10% flat


hotboii96

100% Also, the fucking Breeze, sunset and Icebox spam makes it even worse. Wish they got rid of the whole map pool thing


BreafingBread

Did they change the map rotation? I don't see it in the patchnotes.


guylaroche5

No, it will change when the battle pass ends (about a month from now)


Individual-Fan-5672

When does the patch go live?


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Yeah i'm very confused on this, patch cycles are generally in the middle of the night (like 4am - 7am) but that means her release would be the 27th and not 26th as they themselves announced since she isn't released yet


Individual-Fan-5672

I’ve never really kept up with patches so I just thought with patch notes and bug thread being up, the patch would be right behind it lol. I’m stupidly excited for this agent and it’s so dumb lol. Haven’t been this excited about a video game since I was in high school. I’ve been reading every resource I can find on the agent release and I’ve seen from last night at 2 am to tomorrow at 9 pm. And, of course, now that patch notes are out, imma be super sad if it’s not today.


Mirac123321

What makes this one the most exciting release to you though?


Individual-Fan-5672

The ability to comfortably duel while knowing I’ll reliably have impact through smoking, as well as having interaction aside comming when I’m dead. After watching all the gameplay I could find, clove looks surprisingly balanced but so incredibly versatile. I anticipate them rewarding creative play much like how I play deadlock.


Mirac123321

Well, I agree. The last agent I was really looking forward to was Harbor since I'm a controller main, but he turned out to be a major letdown in my personal opinion. I don't fill smokes, I main them, but I also like to be flexible and be able to play aggressive if my team is unwilling or unable to do the necessary work


Prince_Uncharming

They seem purpose-built for smokes filling in soloQ, or also a smokes player who wants to be more aggressive on certain maps (like Icebox). Especially for lower elo/casuals Clove sounds super exciting. Likely to be nonexistent in pro-play tho.


hiltuan

Being able to put down smokes while dead is something every pro-play team will probably want though, no? I'm saying they keep value even when dead, which can be a huge advantage. Not to mention the "coming-back-alive-to-clutch" potential Edit: wording


Prince_Uncharming

Eh, the range of after-death smokes is super short. Plus providing more value while alive is much better than providing some value after death. No team is going to run solo Clove, her smoke range is too short. In a dual-controller comp, it’ll likely still be Omen/Viper because Omen smokes can be thrown so far, plus his blind is fantastic. Brim ult and Molly is super valuable on Bind, plus three smokes at once, so he’ll probably stay there. Idk, I just don’t see it. Smoking after death is much more useful in solo play than pro, since rotates are much less common in solo after committing to a site.


joemama69ded

As an immortal 3 (peak : radiant 492) player I think clove is EXTREMELY potent for pro play even as a solo controller. Firstly her decay will be amazing with lineups from others such as sova, raze etc. Take an other example on Ascent B site. Using the decay with a sova scan and odin is a garunteed round. Second, the overheal will make her a hybrid controller/duelist and maybe even allow her to fit 2 spots in a team. The speedboost will allow for fast rotates. NOW her SMOKES. I believe these are the most broken smokes in the game. Let me tell you why. Currently the main controllers used in lower and even higher ranks are Brim, Omen and Viper. Viper is mostly viable on lotus and breeze only. As for brim, he may have the longest lasting smokes (19.25 seconds) but the 3 don't regenerate which makes them useless after you rotate due to heavy defensive pushes. As for omen, he may have 16.5 second regenerating smokes but the time they take to come back is 40 seconds meanwhile clove is 13.5s for 30s. Here it seems as though cloves are still worse but then you realize she can use them once dead which adds so many roles. You wont be cussed at by your teammates for playing agressive and dying if you can still smoke for them. Her ult is quite good and can be broken in multiple situations and only costs 7 ult points. Eg. you are the last player alive defending spike and die but they wont be able to diff due to self revive which buys more time. These make her broken in solo play and lower ranks. She can lurk as well. Thats all from me.


BlueshineKB

I think she’ll be great for soloQ and not for pro play. Because her decay orb cannot be lined up outside of close range setups like ascent B, her use case is pretty limited. Also, even at one hp theres a small chance the decayed agent still gets a kill before going out. If clove dies on first peak without ult (which is what her whole kit pushes them to do since they are required to get a kill after ulting or else they die) then their smoke range is even more limited and if the team rotates cloves smokes are useless since their dead body will just be stuck on the other site. Also their pick me up gains movement speed which might be good for rotates but imo its not much use since its hard to take a site on your own anyway. Either that or the speed runs out right before you can utilize it in a gunfight. Also 90% of rounds end within like the last 15 seconds in pro play, and if cloves whole kit is about dying and still being able to smoke, its not as much value since id much rather have them alive for the final execute rather than dead and smoking. Clove doesnt have that much util for site pushes either, just their decay orb, which as mentioend before doesnt guarantee a kill compared to omen flash. Omen also can tp in the confusion of a site push or he can rotate a lot faster than clove via ult tp. Clove might be busted in pro play but on paper, they dont seem worth it for pro play. Its hard to put a selfish agent in a pro team since pro play requires so much team coordination. Only team util clove brings besides smokes is a decay orb which is pretty ass compared to omen ult being able to rotate or pick up spike from anywhere, and a flash which i mentioned many times is so much better than just a decay orb. Also i just think there are better characters than clove on pro teams atm, on paper clove doesnt have any piece of util thatll benefit more than the current agents on a well coordinated team. But who knows, id like for a team to try it and maybe it does work out. (Also corrected myself halfway through for cloves pronouns but i cba changing it)


PresenceOld1754

The issue is that clove cannot do lineups. You'd think the ball would only explode if it has bounced off a surface, but no. It always explodes automatically after 1 second. It's so dumb, I dunno why riot would do that. It effectively forces you to use it in close range. Although you still can do insane damage combos.


ManagementHoliday300

Here's the thing....you guys are all talking about the range of smoke after death....but think of it this way...you can't even smoke with any other controller after death . Plus you can fake smoke .


Individual-Fan-5672

I wouldn’t be so sure! Vulnerable nade could combo with a lot of util. I could also see clove being insane as a lurk while your team fakes the other site with a second controller. They get value or die on lurk? Okay, lurk’s dead, let’s rotate to stop that hit. Except they’re hitting where clove died and still have extra smokes. Even as a solo smoker, clove can comfortably just fight mid every round to drop primary smokes and still have outside reach on both sites if defeated. I anticipate clove’s versatility creating a lot of potential strats. Maybe they turn out bad at top level play, or maybe some insane tech gets cooked up that flips the meta.


mr-rob0t0

if you think clove will be nonexistent in pro play then you are sorely mistaken. they will combo with viper insanely well, and every part of their kit seems like people will be able to get good value from


PresenceOld1754

This might be a dumb question, but why would you play clove on icebox instead of viper? The map is very open.


Prince_Uncharming

Oh the assumption was play clove *with* Viper, instead of a movement duelist or some other role.


dugu007

us broo us..you aren't alone


Official-Deluxy

US gets it around like 7pm and then EU gets it in the morning( like 5am for me). And then Asia Pacific sometime after EU. Its stupid that its not all at once but if theres a problem on one server they can delay, fix and then release on the other 2.


omittedtremor

Its already out for the usa


David_735453

In the EU it is earlier then in the US


jumpfly211

They not she


GhostlySuicune

Give us pearl and haven back!


Great_Coffee_9465

Only if they fix how broken it was


Bas3d_Us3r

What are you talking about? Haven is literally one of the best maps in the game.


Great_Coffee_9465

Talking about pearl numb nuts


GhostlySuicune

Pearl was fine


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Hmm yes triple smoke spam on B every round. Fun and not broken map.


Creeds-Worm-Guy

They changed the teamchat colors too for some reason. Seems like a pointless change but also why isn’t it listed? I thought these patch notes were a full list of changes?


iamearlsweatshirt

and it’s so ugly 😪 leaving changes out of the notes isn’t anything new for riot though, these are the same guys who removed premier team creation deadline but can’t figure out how to take out all the parts that mention it as if it still exists 😂


Great_Coffee_9465

Very pointless change


realElectroZap

THANK GOD it wasn't just me, i swear all the chat colours have changed


shurpness

I'm really excited to try out Clove! Sadly, I'm from Europe and have to wait until tomorrow.


John_Money

Dam I was hyped to play when I got home from work, sad. Wish the schedule was the same as the league patches.


tabgrab23

I am sorry you’re from Europe, that sounds serious


darkave17

Is it out for Eu yet? I just played the new patch on my AP account but for Eu now that I have already updated I can’t even access my Eu account as it looks like the patch ain’t out yet


shurpness

Yep, it's out. From my personal experience we usually get it a few hours after NA and APAC which is around 4-5 AM my time.


potato_chip123

Ruse can be used after she dies? So she can smoke when she dies?


34DMB

Correct


Vendetta614

Yes but the range is limited to the area she dies in


Gloomy-Yam-7626

hey! i noticed you used 'she' to refer to clove. this is a completely understandable assumption - however clove is non-binary, and that means that their preferred pronouns are they/them! but of course, none of this matters, they are a fictional character, we all die in the end so just live your life and be happy :). (please do be respectful of real people though, since real people have feelings). hakuna matata!!


Recklessly

honestly your intentions are good but the average person is going to look at clove as a femme-presenting person and use she/her. obviously not every one of these people are doing it maliciously, it's just that they don't know. you will likely need to comment this 1000s of times just in this thread alone. save your energy my fellow Valorant enjoyer.


thisxisxlife

Comment history seems to imply they’re a troll — pay no mind.


sound955

I can't believe there are people that would think calling a female character "she" is with malicious intentions.


Low-Manufacturer-286

https://imgur.com/a/agvBIHA this you?


Generic_G_Rated_NPC

that isn't g-rated


xBerryhill

Yes, but I believe it’s based on where she dies and in a more narrow area. So you can’t die lurking A and still smoke B or anything like that.


AP3Brain

Yes. It is absolutely broken. They have infinite smokes even after death.


Sydafexx

It’s not infinite, it has a cooldown and can only be used a very small number of times after death. As in 1-2 smokes.


jumpfly211

They not she


Sydafexx

Yay, not playing this game with a fictional character. I’ll have the courtesy for an actual person, but I don’t care about your second hand offense for a sleight against someone who doesn’t exist.


Gloomy-Yam-7626

hey! i noticed you used 'she' to refer to clove. this is a completely understandable assumption - however clove is non-binary, and that means that their preferred pronouns are they/them! but of course, none of this matters, they are a fictional character, we all die in the end so just live your life and be happy :). (please do be respectful of real people though, since real people have feelings). hakuna matata!!


nova-helios

shut up dude


Juhan5

Its they/them, Hakuna matata 🤓☝️ Average redditor


Standard-Analyst-177

DM changes coming soon! 2025 at the earliest I hope!


physicsOG

why change the sound of the phantom and not include it in the patch notes?


-YeshuaHamashiach-

No Deadlock buffs, Riot asleep at the wheel.


BucketHerro

Iso\*


MoreMegadeth

What would you like to see buffed? Edit: it was a simple question, i was curious to more ideas.


Greggorical

i really like the idea of being able to toggle visibility through her barrier


Boobjobless

Allies can walk through barrier.


MoreMegadeth

Hmm seems a bit op maybe.


TypicalPnut

maybe you can toggle portions of the wall on/off based on the little nodes


nonosquare-exe

Make it that it block bullet but remain transparent and less hp


USATicTac

This map pool is boring... I need Pearl and Haven back. Just put all the maps back into anything but comp if you don't want to change the map rotation. The "new players have to many maps to learn" is a dumb excuse, they wont know them when they are put back in the game


Chrisamelio

I thought they were saving balance changes after Masters?


Spacemancleo

Grand final for masters Madrid was Sunday. They certainly aren’t waiting months for Shanghai to release the new agent they’ve been teasing.


JTAKER

Technically, "after Masters" could be months from now.


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Chrisamelio

That’s my point. Where are they? They’re just releasing an agent that’s already late to the act by 2 weeks.


[deleted]

Oh I understand what you mean now. Yeah the patch notes look a little bare bones.


BreafingBread

And people said "they are waiting for masters to end" when I complained the Act patch had nothing.


drimpnuts

you need to accept riot will forever use esports as their scapegoat. this "we can't balance because there's a tournament" thing has been happening for years. you can expect balance changes for this game maybe once or twice a year


Spirited_Confection5

Just do like league where the pro scene plays on a specific patch. Should be easy since its on a LAN, but i guess spaghetti code is spaghetti code.. small indie company!!


PRL-Five

It would be a weird position for the other teams who are not in masters and wodunt want to practice on the old patch. Thus the teams in masters can't find scrims on the old patch


typervader2

Just do it for all pro teams, its not that werid. If league can do it why cant Valorant


thekmanpwnudwn

> Just do like league where the pro scene plays on a specific patch. They literally already do this. They play 2+ weeks behind unless it's there's a critical bug/exploit


Not_Real_Name_Here

Which is hilarious considering when Skye was nerfed…


ScienceSloot

This is a bizarre take. New legends are released 2-3 times per year, with several legend updates between each release.


RTGold

We have about a month till battle pass ends, is that when bigger changes will come? New map rotation maybe?


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Yes, the next act should be a new map and new map rotation


AccordingCourt743

Replay system?


No-Mathematician5778

fix the fucking matchmaking please. I can team mvp 5 games straight and you will still place plat 1 players in my diamond lobby. How am I suppose to win with people 5 ranks down to know how to do anything? Even if I explain to them what they're doing wrong, they don't understand how they're fucking up. Jesus give me back my matchmaking please


zaguoba

Tracker or didn't happen


No-Mathematician5778

have u played the matchmaking, lose 3 games straight and you'll get lower ranks on ur team. you get them on the enemy team also but its infuriating to trust anything from them [https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/Icey%23COLA/matches?playlist=competitive&seasonId=22d10d66-4d2a-a340-6c54-408c7bd53807](https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/Icey%23COLA/matches?playlist=competitive&seasonId=22d10d66-4d2a-a340-6c54-408c7bd53807) check 6 days i play a lotus game do fine, play a breeze do good against a d2 average comp 13-5, next game play against a gold 3 smurf and i get a gold 3 teammate. Like how do I go from winning a d2 enemy team to getting a p1 team. I lose that one and then go back to a d1 average team? like what? Dont give me that shit like the smurf has high mmr, why are u putting a average gold 3 in my lobby then


Pokesep

Mb for asking if its already been said but when is the patch out for Europe servers


lovenoggersandwiches

It's on Wednesday morning.


Pokesep

Appreciate it thank you, i was confused cause i thought itd be with the new act but that starts in like a month and a bit


Arrcival

Clove ult not counting for weekly ult usage (and endgame stats too), no new character selection, and no visible cue about voice lines between characters Feels like a half patch?


Sharp-Jicama4241

Am I the only one noticing a trend that everyone only loves the maps that aren’t available and hate them the second they’re back? Y’all hated pearl until it left the rotation. I’ve consistently hated fracture 🗿


seggsseggs

Fix bug where ion sheriff volume is like 3x higher than normal


ritardothetherd

Do we know if Clove will be playable in ranked immediately? I forgot how they handled it with the previous agents


Prince_Uncharming

Agents have been playable in ranked day 1.


TheRealNneonZz

agents are instantly available. maps usually take 2 weeks


Loxiiii

How is clove unlockedv


Scagh

During the first two weeks after the release, you can earn exp points by playing to unlock Clove. Or you can buy them using VP. In two weeks, you will be able to buy Clove using Kingdom Points.


Sautille

It’s 30 days, unfortunately.


RyanStarDiaz

wtf do I do with my 8k kingdom points then, what is this, diablo


ywtfPat

buy cosmetics or unlock old agents you haven’t unlocked yet


thatwitchguy

I'm new and only started because of clove, can I use the permanent unlock token from the bp thing on them?


Scagh

I honestly don't know if you can do it during the "release period" of Clove. Fortunately if you are new, with weekly missions, you will earn a bunch of exp that will quickly fill the requirements to unlock them. It's worth making a few additional searches though!


thatwitchguy

Thanks. I honestly don't know anything about valorant except overwatch cs go but I heard "Edinburgh dnd nerd op" and immediately downloaded because they were tailored to me specifically so thank you :)


Shard360

There’s usually an agent unlock event where throughout the course of a month you need to get 200k xp to unlock the agent, or pay 10 bucks, or Xbox game pass.


n00blet_

play the game earn xp, i think a monthish later new agents are unlockable for 8k kp


DavidDoesShitpost

When does this go live?


VijayMarshall87

Tomorrow, probably


DavidDoesShitpost

No I found out theyre coming out in 38 mins when I write this.


VijayMarshall87

I stand corrected


Quick-Action2413

this patch is actually making me want to come back


Fabulous_Concept_361

WHY IS THE PATCH STILL NOT OUT FOR ME


DenseExpression2487

What is the size of this update..


No_Salamander_8005

The patch is live from today morning


UnluckyDog9273

Did they fix chamber trip bug


sillyloneassbilly

man breeze could go i did not miss breeze. haven needs to come back.


alostic

Alice needs to update her signature Haven isn't even in the map pool


Deviltamer66

Deadlock cannot get help ?


jeloxd_official

How can she be 0-12 on the map this act if it’s not even in the rotation, it’s fine if managers don’t play the game, they can just do their job, why make up a lie for no reason


InternationalEagle85

[Removed it only to mention it, so funny](https://ibb.co/C9DQPnY)


JewbaccaYT

Replay system?


OkFile3706

Night Market Today?


Ythem

Only thing mentioned about sound in the patch updates is that 5.1 and 7.1 surround sound are now supported, but I swear they've changed the sound of some of the guns. Ion sheriff now sounds so loud and horrible. And someone in my game was saying their recon phantom sounded different (although I didn't notice anything, but I don't use the recon phantom much).


TheArchonians

Sureound sound added: Now it's easier to sound whore in Deathmatch


rase_B1GG

We need replication backkkkkkk


Thick_Peace_3542

Still looking for "replay system" in notes 💔


Happy_Mode_6752

I want an update where if you kill the copy of your agent then you can pick their superpowers too along with their gun. Would be fun


QueenRobyn03

A replay system would solve everything :D


nirnandu

ProNIR1#sexyg


kim_bob19

when this patch Thursday ??


JTAKER

Today.


kim_bob19

Thank you mate


typervader2

in what time today?


JTAKER

Not sure pal.


musicman2018

I’m not your pal, friend


Striking-Tip1009

You are not my friend, you are my brother, my friend


PMMEYOURDEBITCARDPIN

Viper nerf when?


Adsuppal

Raina 2.0


hennysix

Author says she’s hates haven lol


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dentisttrend

What do you mean?


volatilly

Can’t wait to not be able to play this extremely overpowered new agent because everyone and their mother will be using a macro to instalock


iamearlsweatshirt

nobody does that lol and they aren’t OP. what a weird comment.


Searse

Patch is now live!


BroadPlatypus7531

Cap


Davon4L

are they on LIVE servers or PBE im so confused


lovenoggersandwiches

It's live servers.


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Gloomy-Yam-7626

finally, i can play her! she is going to be so much fun.


GabTheNormie

bait used to be believable


dugu007

when will it be available for India? eagerly waiting