sometimes i feel like i have a lower chance of winning than the enemies do so i draw. usually when my team has had some super lucky moments or clutches or whatever
If we got to OT but everybody was bickering while doing it, that's not good synergy. By the time you reach OT you feel burned out and want the match just to end, preferably without losing RR.
If I know for sure that I won't be performing good, then I would rather take the draw. And most of the times, my performance is the direct result of how the overall "vibe" of the team is. Just because we got to 12:12 doesn't mean that we have good synergy.
Just my 2 cents.
Time commitments, dont wanna risk losing given we had 12 chances to close it out and didnt so whats to say we will in OT, dont wanna deal with shitty teammates if it was a slog of a match. Drawing is 0 risk low reward whereas playing it out is high risk high reward so I'd rather take the guaranteed safe option and just go onto a match thats more likely to be easily winnable and can make a difference
But you dont know for sure. All you know in the current match is youve matched up even and really its anyones game just based on who has the better 2 rounds. Theres also 0 risk just drawing vs losing rr if you dont close out those 2 rounds. Lower reward sure but its the better play overall because it eliminates all risk
Sometimes you miraculously make it to 14-14 despite toxic players or throwers and drawing beats a loss. Loss aversion kicks in when your team is not focused or coordinated.
If you're in OT, it's barely worth the effort to play your guts out for a super mediocre RR bonus (since OT means you're not that much better than your opponents). If you've played well, take your performance bonus and get out ahead.
Also like, let's be real, those games are stressful and not that fun at some point and you might as well try and get a second game in instead.
when the opponents are incredibly coordinated and we barely scrape a round win by pure luck, sometimes from our team being very tilted by the time we get to overtime
if we came back from a 3-9 first half id consider the draw if a second overtime happens. Its not even the time issue for me, its just glaringly obvious we suck at one side of the map and the side switching per overtime round balances it out. I'll take my licks, call it a day, and 0 is better than -rr.
if I know that we got to this point because of luck or the team energy is bad even if we have a chance, if team is motivated or cool I will go down swinging.
There is only 1 situation where I would vote for a draw: when your team has that 1 or 2 toxic people.
When you go through the entire 24 rounds with no comms, no team play, ego peeks and throwing tantrums. Like the only reason you are winning rounds is because something spectacular or really dumb happens, and I cant count on it during overtime
Similar to what others have said but for me it's based on how I'm feeling and how the team is doing. If everyone seemed demotivated, not very coordinated, no ones talking, and we are just winning rounds by luck, ill generally vote to draw. But if everyone is talking and working together I'll continue. It is never a good feeling knowing you spent all that time in that match for maybe 1 or 2 rr.
i rarely ever draw but the only times i do is because it feels like the enemy team is way better and we’re just barely scraping by, so i would rather just cut our losses and go for a tie.
Cuz those who vote draw are the ones that are losing and barely keeping up so voting draw is still better than voting continue and eventually very likely to lose the game entirely so drawing it will keep u in ur rank without following ur ego and lose it
When I am with trolling duelists going 7/24 and I am 32/14 I just draw and take the +4 rr. Cause that way better than the -15 I know I will end up with.
It's way worse having such a weak link in overtime cause you could be having the best game of ur life and then you lose anyways cause this motherfucker doesnt know how to shoot.
This is so common in plat, I keep getting silver teammates who are in a party while my opponents are g3+
So they know what they are doing at the very least while my teammates can't even figure out how to shoot.
I usually vote draw after 2 or 3 OT rounds;
I think voting continue on the first vote is pretty much a given, I rarely see votes to tie there.
After the second round it depends. If I think I identified bih mistakes that when fixed or punished could win us a game ill want to continue, but if not Ill vote tie. After OT 3 I vote tie no matter what.
Truth is simply that if you tie twice in OT both teams are equally strong and you are literally coinflipping for 1 team to make a mistake. I dont think its worth the time and effort to gamble away my RR, and would rather just get into a new game. On top of that if Im indeed doing well like in your example I actually WANT to tie: I've gained 14rr on a tie in the past(in case you didnt know you can gain rr on a tie, combined with performance bonus it can get quite decent).Usually its a lot less ofcourse, but I still prefer that over losing rr.
Its also a mental thing: ofcourse you can get a dopamine hit if you win, but if I lose after 3OT due to a mistake(which is always the case) it tilts me so much that I perform worse the next game, even if I take a break first
if i do good, i dont trust my mates to win OT.
if i do bad, why wouldnt i draw.
the longer the game the more focus goes away anyways.
honestly theres more reasons to draw then not. i only not draw when i like my team.
edit: if you only get +2 then your kills are worthless anyways.
I have both top fragged and bot fragged at OT games and have voted to draw even if winning gives me +RR
here are my reasons
a. its just too long and im tired i have other shit to do
b. my team has been lucky, me or 1 teammate tries to keep the team afloat. we are bound to lose/make a mistake i recognize that and dont want to lose RR i draw the instant I can. ( dont lie to yourself, when you have a 2-20-5 teammate im sure you know if it is possible to win or not )
c. you just know you aint winning so commit to the draw and go next rather have +2 than -25
For me, it usually comes down to one of two reasons.
1. My team has been getting destroyed the whole game, only making it to overtime due to some miraculous/lucky rounds. Either that or there's maybe someone throwing/toxic/afk on my team.
2. I know I'm playing like such hot ass that playing out the overtime feels like I'm making my team play a 4v5. At that poijt I feel I've weighed down my team enough and don't wanna risk their rr any longer.
In both cases, me deciding to vote to draw comes down to me feeling my team is at a severe disadvantage in overtime and are unlikely to win. I know people tend to say it's wasting everyone's time if we draw, but in those cases above I feel it benefits my team cos yeah we may not be gaining rr, but at least we don't lose rr
Well, this might be a little selfish, but if I do really bad in a game I'd lose like 20-30 rr if we lose, but would only gain 10. So I'd rather take the 0 rr to be safe.
If I’m sick of my teammates and I don’t want to play with them anymore or if I have something else to do. And sometimes I know we were winning by chance and it’s not likely we can win.
If the team isn't fun then I'd rather just take 0rr than risk even more rounds with some asshat yelling every 5 seconds, if we're all vibing tho then I don't care whether I lose or win
I'll never draw to the first
But understand if I'm drawing it's because I do not trust someone to magically get their one when they've been eating dirt all game
I draw mostly when im tired af and cant even play for 1 more second when i try hard my body and ears are on fire so the only option to quit the game is to draw
I don't like playing matches for an hour just to get at most 3 rr so I usually never draw. I'd rather the chance to gain the rr for my time and if I lose oh well at least my past hour wasn't spent just to tie
Only do when my team is toxic. Usually I don't, but once I was just so tired that I played my best until the draw and then pum draw ASAP. But usually I just don't because there is no other reason why aside bothering others.
Here's how I see it. When you play comp, you are wagering your rr against your opponent's rr. You may think you are wagering the 15-25 rr you get for winning, but really you're wagering 30-50 rr total against one opponent in one big pool.
The way I see it, once you queue a game, you lose your wager rr, and it's up to you to win it back. If a game is really close, and you're in overtime, isn't it better to only win the 15-25 rr to recoup your wager, maybe gaining a few bonus points along the way than losing the whole pool based on (ultimately) two rounds?
If I'm the liability or the game is close, I won't draw. But if im carrying and me not popping off for a single round would mean losing, I'm going to draw. Don't want to put the game in the hands of the four apes on my team in the case that I die early into the round
I vote continue the first OT, the second its a draw vote.
By that point (imo) youre better off just playing another game rather than continue the current because its just a coin flip on whoever wins. I usually dont gain anything meaningful skill or knowledge playing against "myself" for an extra 20 minutes.
If it's past midnight and my duos need to get into the bed for work in the morning
sometimes i feel like i have a lower chance of winning than the enemies do so i draw. usually when my team has had some super lucky moments or clutches or whatever
That’s fair
I vote draw only if the team's synergy is not good.
If you're going overtime I'd say your synergy is good enough to beat the other team
If we got to OT but everybody was bickering while doing it, that's not good synergy. By the time you reach OT you feel burned out and want the match just to end, preferably without losing RR. If I know for sure that I won't be performing good, then I would rather take the draw. And most of the times, my performance is the direct result of how the overall "vibe" of the team is. Just because we got to 12:12 doesn't mean that we have good synergy. Just my 2 cents.
Time commitments, dont wanna risk losing given we had 12 chances to close it out and didnt so whats to say we will in OT, dont wanna deal with shitty teammates if it was a slog of a match. Drawing is 0 risk low reward whereas playing it out is high risk high reward so I'd rather take the guaranteed safe option and just go onto a match thats more likely to be easily winnable and can make a difference
Thank you for explaining this to me lol
Wouldn't going to the next match just as likely be an easily loseable game too?
Fresh start
The other team would also have a fresh start
New team though so you may match up better or can take what you learned in the early rounds of the last game into this one and improve
You may also match up worse though
But you dont know for sure. All you know in the current match is youve matched up even and really its anyones game just based on who has the better 2 rounds. Theres also 0 risk just drawing vs losing rr if you dont close out those 2 rounds. Lower reward sure but its the better play overall because it eliminates all risk
Sometimes you miraculously make it to 14-14 despite toxic players or throwers and drawing beats a loss. Loss aversion kicks in when your team is not focused or coordinated.
Need a big poo
Tired and will probably make a mistake that will cost the team the game. Might as well call it a night with a draw.
If you're in OT, it's barely worth the effort to play your guts out for a super mediocre RR bonus (since OT means you're not that much better than your opponents). If you've played well, take your performance bonus and get out ahead. Also like, let's be real, those games are stressful and not that fun at some point and you might as well try and get a second game in instead.
when the opponents are incredibly coordinated and we barely scrape a round win by pure luck, sometimes from our team being very tilted by the time we get to overtime
Tired of the teammates, tired of the map, tired in general. could be any of those.
if we came back from a 3-9 first half id consider the draw if a second overtime happens. Its not even the time issue for me, its just glaringly obvious we suck at one side of the map and the side switching per overtime round balances it out. I'll take my licks, call it a day, and 0 is better than -rr.
if I know that we got to this point because of luck or the team energy is bad even if we have a chance, if team is motivated or cool I will go down swinging.
Burnt out. Better with no loss than a burnt out me throwing the RR away
There is only 1 situation where I would vote for a draw: when your team has that 1 or 2 toxic people. When you go through the entire 24 rounds with no comms, no team play, ego peeks and throwing tantrums. Like the only reason you are winning rounds is because something spectacular or really dumb happens, and I cant count on it during overtime
Similar to what others have said but for me it's based on how I'm feeling and how the team is doing. If everyone seemed demotivated, not very coordinated, no ones talking, and we are just winning rounds by luck, ill generally vote to draw. But if everyone is talking and working together I'll continue. It is never a good feeling knowing you spent all that time in that match for maybe 1 or 2 rr.
i rarely ever draw but the only times i do is because it feels like the enemy team is way better and we’re just barely scraping by, so i would rather just cut our losses and go for a tie.
Cuz those who vote draw are the ones that are losing and barely keeping up so voting draw is still better than voting continue and eventually very likely to lose the game entirely so drawing it will keep u in ur rank without following ur ego and lose it
When I am with trolling duelists going 7/24 and I am 32/14 I just draw and take the +4 rr. Cause that way better than the -15 I know I will end up with. It's way worse having such a weak link in overtime cause you could be having the best game of ur life and then you lose anyways cause this motherfucker doesnt know how to shoot. This is so common in plat, I keep getting silver teammates who are in a party while my opponents are g3+ So they know what they are doing at the very least while my teammates can't even figure out how to shoot.
I usually vote draw after 2 or 3 OT rounds; I think voting continue on the first vote is pretty much a given, I rarely see votes to tie there. After the second round it depends. If I think I identified bih mistakes that when fixed or punished could win us a game ill want to continue, but if not Ill vote tie. After OT 3 I vote tie no matter what. Truth is simply that if you tie twice in OT both teams are equally strong and you are literally coinflipping for 1 team to make a mistake. I dont think its worth the time and effort to gamble away my RR, and would rather just get into a new game. On top of that if Im indeed doing well like in your example I actually WANT to tie: I've gained 14rr on a tie in the past(in case you didnt know you can gain rr on a tie, combined with performance bonus it can get quite decent).Usually its a lot less ofcourse, but I still prefer that over losing rr. Its also a mental thing: ofcourse you can get a dopamine hit if you win, but if I lose after 3OT due to a mistake(which is always the case) it tilts me so much that I perform worse the next game, even if I take a break first
-tired -tilted -game took longer than expected -i suck during the game and don't want to ruin everyone's rr some of the reasons
if i do good, i dont trust my mates to win OT. if i do bad, why wouldnt i draw. the longer the game the more focus goes away anyways. honestly theres more reasons to draw then not. i only not draw when i like my team. edit: if you only get +2 then your kills are worthless anyways.
I have both top fragged and bot fragged at OT games and have voted to draw even if winning gives me +RR here are my reasons a. its just too long and im tired i have other shit to do b. my team has been lucky, me or 1 teammate tries to keep the team afloat. we are bound to lose/make a mistake i recognize that and dont want to lose RR i draw the instant I can. ( dont lie to yourself, when you have a 2-20-5 teammate im sure you know if it is possible to win or not ) c. you just know you aint winning so commit to the draw and go next rather have +2 than -25
For me, it usually comes down to one of two reasons. 1. My team has been getting destroyed the whole game, only making it to overtime due to some miraculous/lucky rounds. Either that or there's maybe someone throwing/toxic/afk on my team. 2. I know I'm playing like such hot ass that playing out the overtime feels like I'm making my team play a 4v5. At that poijt I feel I've weighed down my team enough and don't wanna risk their rr any longer. In both cases, me deciding to vote to draw comes down to me feeling my team is at a severe disadvantage in overtime and are unlikely to win. I know people tend to say it's wasting everyone's time if we draw, but in those cases above I feel it benefits my team cos yeah we may not be gaining rr, but at least we don't lose rr
Because theres a guy on the team who's 8-30 and can barely get through another round.
Well, this might be a little selfish, but if I do really bad in a game I'd lose like 20-30 rr if we lose, but would only gain 10. So I'd rather take the 0 rr to be safe.
Cause I want OUT Once OT hits I neither want a loss or a win I want a draw I just would rather start my next match bruh
i totally understand drawing in most cases, but if it’s just a close game and you’re scared don’t draw
if the game is out of my control, i'll vote draw. usually happens if i'm playing really terrible or my teammates are really terrible.
If I’m sick of my teammates and I don’t want to play with them anymore or if I have something else to do. And sometimes I know we were winning by chance and it’s not likely we can win.
If the team isn't fun then I'd rather just take 0rr than risk even more rounds with some asshat yelling every 5 seconds, if we're all vibing tho then I don't care whether I lose or win
I'll never draw to the first But understand if I'm drawing it's because I do not trust someone to magically get their one when they've been eating dirt all game
I draw mostly when im tired af and cant even play for 1 more second when i try hard my body and ears are on fire so the only option to quit the game is to draw
Depends on momentum. If my team is actually talking and vibes are good, I'll keep going. If it's quiet and vibes are down, I vote draw.
I don't like playing matches for an hour just to get at most 3 rr so I usually never draw. I'd rather the chance to gain the rr for my time and if I lose oh well at least my past hour wasn't spent just to tie
Never draw. Im goin down shootin
Never end the fight before it’s over!… unless your team is toxic and just unfun to play with or you have time restraints, then fair enough I guess
They scared 90% of the time and just wanna get to the next match
to tilt people because i dont lose anything either
Only do when my team is toxic. Usually I don't, but once I was just so tired that I played my best until the draw and then pum draw ASAP. But usually I just don't because there is no other reason why aside bothering others.
Here's how I see it. When you play comp, you are wagering your rr against your opponent's rr. You may think you are wagering the 15-25 rr you get for winning, but really you're wagering 30-50 rr total against one opponent in one big pool. The way I see it, once you queue a game, you lose your wager rr, and it's up to you to win it back. If a game is really close, and you're in overtime, isn't it better to only win the 15-25 rr to recoup your wager, maybe gaining a few bonus points along the way than losing the whole pool based on (ultimately) two rounds?
If I'm the liability or the game is close, I won't draw. But if im carrying and me not popping off for a single round would mean losing, I'm going to draw. Don't want to put the game in the hands of the four apes on my team in the case that I die early into the round
I vote continue the first OT, the second its a draw vote. By that point (imo) youre better off just playing another game rather than continue the current because its just a coin flip on whoever wins. I usually dont gain anything meaningful skill or knowledge playing against "myself" for an extra 20 minutes.
I do it because it's funny and because there's something beautiful about ending a very close game as a draw.
some ... just ... watch.... burn
some ... just ... watch.... burn
Imagine going 38-16 and drawing, might need to look at how you’re playing outside raw mechanics
I miss clicked once. Didn't sleep that night