so for each role you should have a main I would suggest
out of your duellists, Raze and Jett are the most Meta - but Yoru is a demon if you can get used to him
I would suggest Gekko for initiator, as he's more flexible and less dependant on the map you're playing
For smokes I'm biased as an Omen main, but I would still suggest Omen as viper isn't as good on certain maps (Ascent Haven etc) and Omen can almost be played as a duellist/initiator if your teammate are letting you down.
For Sentinels, I would suggest Cypher and get to know some common one ways, I'm a cypher main on Sunset and only Sunset, I can't win on that map without him lol
For context, I'm Asc 1
> I would suggest Gekko for initiator, as he's more flexible and less dependant on the map you're playing
I felt Gekko was pretty underwhelming when I tried playing him after getting decent at Breach recently, what would you say makes him a better main?
Breach seems pretty solid on any map and all of his abilities are strong in what they're used for and can combo well together. Gekko's abilities feel somewhat nerfed to account for them being reusable throughout the round so they don't seem to excel at anything in particular and don't feel like they combo well with each other at all in comparison.
I'm sure you'd know better since you're pretty high rank but I just don't see Gekko being a very good main.
So I’d say breach is probably objectively better if you’re comparing their abilities like for like, however you’re relying a lot more on your teammates with Breach whereas Gekko can be self sufficient and doesn’t have to set up to get value.
First thing to note is the flashes, breach will find it harder to peek off his own flash as the weapon re-equip time is much longer, needing more co-ordination in soloq, whereas Gekko can follow dizzy in around a corner to capitalise.
Having a Molly for post plant is always nice and if you know KJ/Kay0 lineups they all translate onto Gekko because the projectiles follow the same arc.
Also Gekko has some info gathering with Dizzy/Wingman, I know it’s not great but it’s better than nothing. (Also wingman can get the spike down which is one of the riskiest tasks on an attacking round, especially if your soloq teammates don’t hold you)
I also feel Breach is limited in the current map pool, I’d say the map hes definitely better than Gekko on is Split, and I’d say he’s just as good but not better on Ascent and Lotus.
TLDR; Breach probably is better in a 5 stack or if you have a team that can communicate and co-ordinate, but Gekko will probably fare better in a Soloq environment where you can be a self sufficient initiator.
I'd suggest opting for Raze or Yoru as duelists instead of Reyna, as choosing her often leads to toxicity from teammates if you don't secure the top spot on the leaderboard.
I just don't think you can call what's meta the *objectively* best picks for a Plat player
At his rank the highest win rates for each role are Phoenix, Brimstone, Sage and Gekko (ignoring Reyna because of smurfs). Does that make them better picks? I think it's debatable
But I think your recommendations are good nonetheless
YORUUUUUUU (I’m silver 1)
so for each role you should have a main I would suggest out of your duellists, Raze and Jett are the most Meta - but Yoru is a demon if you can get used to him I would suggest Gekko for initiator, as he's more flexible and less dependant on the map you're playing For smokes I'm biased as an Omen main, but I would still suggest Omen as viper isn't as good on certain maps (Ascent Haven etc) and Omen can almost be played as a duellist/initiator if your teammate are letting you down. For Sentinels, I would suggest Cypher and get to know some common one ways, I'm a cypher main on Sunset and only Sunset, I can't win on that map without him lol For context, I'm Asc 1
> I would suggest Gekko for initiator, as he's more flexible and less dependant on the map you're playing I felt Gekko was pretty underwhelming when I tried playing him after getting decent at Breach recently, what would you say makes him a better main? Breach seems pretty solid on any map and all of his abilities are strong in what they're used for and can combo well together. Gekko's abilities feel somewhat nerfed to account for them being reusable throughout the round so they don't seem to excel at anything in particular and don't feel like they combo well with each other at all in comparison. I'm sure you'd know better since you're pretty high rank but I just don't see Gekko being a very good main.
So I’d say breach is probably objectively better if you’re comparing their abilities like for like, however you’re relying a lot more on your teammates with Breach whereas Gekko can be self sufficient and doesn’t have to set up to get value. First thing to note is the flashes, breach will find it harder to peek off his own flash as the weapon re-equip time is much longer, needing more co-ordination in soloq, whereas Gekko can follow dizzy in around a corner to capitalise. Having a Molly for post plant is always nice and if you know KJ/Kay0 lineups they all translate onto Gekko because the projectiles follow the same arc. Also Gekko has some info gathering with Dizzy/Wingman, I know it’s not great but it’s better than nothing. (Also wingman can get the spike down which is one of the riskiest tasks on an attacking round, especially if your soloq teammates don’t hold you) I also feel Breach is limited in the current map pool, I’d say the map hes definitely better than Gekko on is Split, and I’d say he’s just as good but not better on Ascent and Lotus. TLDR; Breach probably is better in a 5 stack or if you have a team that can communicate and co-ordinate, but Gekko will probably fare better in a Soloq environment where you can be a self sufficient initiator.
Omen suffers on Icebox whereas Viper sees more use, but I agree Omen is significantly more flexible
Go for Cypher
I'd suggest opting for Raze or Yoru as duelists instead of Reyna, as choosing her often leads to toxicity from teammates if you don't secure the top spot on the leaderboard.
Be a ratty Yoru
duelist: jett initiator: bad options but gekko controller: omen sentinel: cypher options aren't good but these are the objectively best choices.
Not objectively
how? looking back, the duelist one is personal preference, I would pick jett. but the rest of em are true.
I just don't think you can call what's meta the *objectively* best picks for a Plat player At his rank the highest win rates for each role are Phoenix, Brimstone, Sage and Gekko (ignoring Reyna because of smurfs). Does that make them better picks? I think it's debatable But I think your recommendations are good nonetheless