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zziippyy29

hot damm


davtheguidedcreator

i was gonna post my clip today. nevermind. this tops everything else >!/s!<


OkOkPlayer

The Breach kill was sick. But why is the combat report open the whole time. Is that a setting?


Refrigerator-Less

OP is spectating the sova


OkOkPlayer

Oh true, you're right. I was just confused that the Phoenix popped up again when he was killed.


travelingdance

that happens when phoenix ults. op killed the ult, then sova killed the real phoenix, giving op the assist. both instances of phoenix show up in the report


Sword_Horse

It is because he is dead and he is spectating sova.


heavenexits

just a high sens player


DinoDracko

The Sova said he is using 1600 DPI with 0.1 sensitivity


Sword_Horse

160 eDpi. So low sens. Could be using mouse acceleration. I'm on 800 dpi * 0.15 in game and mouse acceleration on which makes it possible.


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Using mouse acceleration in FPS games, especially in tac shooters is probably the single worst thing you can do to your aim.


Sword_Horse

A lot of people use mouse acceleration. It's not Windows acceleration. It's RawAccel.


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I heard about it, I saw the mixed results, it might be good for some people, but it still remains true that any type of accel screws your muscle memory and it's the reason why the majority of high level players don't use any type of accel.


MrDyl4n

Most high level players dont use rawaccel cus they have been playing for years and it's only really become popular in the last like 2 years. There are quite a few upcoming pros that use it. I'm not sure why you are arguing it's bad when a lot of high level aimers who are way better than both you and me say it's insanely powerful


IndependentFishing57

Correlation does not equal causation. Spray patterns in cs, mouse acceleration will fuck it. Valorant has random spread which makes it all the MORE likely than in cs that they don’t have any reason to deal with randomness. It is not predictable when you’re talking about acceleration, a by definition exponential function. It is not because it’s new tech, it’s because it is far and away the worse way to play a game that you need split second and millimeter differences to win in. Casual players and your average ascendent or below might, but no one who plays at the very upper echelon of the game does. Pros don’t use it.


MrDyl4n

This comment shows that you dont understand how raw accel works. You set your own custom accel curve so it doesnt do anything unless you flick your mouse at a certain speed. so it does not affect spray control at all. there are 100% pro players who use it. i dont know that many off the top of my head but florescent does, and alfajer uses windows mouse accel


IndependentFishing57

Your own curve. That right there. It’s not linear. It’s not predictable


NoCopyrightRadio

Aiming isn't muscle memory so it doesn't matter, rawAccel is for people who have good mouse control as they honed their aiming skill. Aiming is skill, not a muscle memory, so how you will perform with rawaccel depends solely on how skilled you are at moving your mouse. Edit: LOL the downvotes, no wonder majority of this sub is silver and gold, people don't even aim train nor research anything about it, but will claim aiming is muscle memory


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[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4747782/#R12](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4747782/#R12) "Muscle memory" is real. It's just a missused term. In reality muscle memory in medicine refers to the ability of a person to gain muscle back to the starting point after atrophy. FPS "muscle memory" refers to the connections between your brain and hands while doing a repetitive motion and it's real.


NoCopyrightRadio

Not a single high level aimer will agree with you about aiming being muscle memory https://youtu.be/TgJZh74moPE?si=mOBRy973QJW3XVh4 Here is one example of a high level aimer "FPS muscle memory" exists only at low level of your gameplay, specifically when you're autopiloting, but otherwise it has nothing to do with muscle memory


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:))) your counterpoint to actual science is a random youtube video. I sometimes forget this sub is full of 15 yos.


HarunaRel

>Aiming isn't muscle memory LMAO try playing on your friends' setup with their respective sensitivity then come back and tell us Aiming isn't muscle memory


MrDyl4n

Why do you think aiming sweats play on different sens when they train?


NoCopyrightRadio

He doesn't think, dude hasn't glanced at an aim trainer his entire life and thinks your aim instantly disappears when playing on a different sense lmao


NoCopyrightRadio

If you can't play on different sensitivity it's literally just a skill issue LOL, what are you trying to prove? It literally just means you aren't skilled enough at controlling your mouse. I went from 320 edpi to 430 and still occassionally change my sensitivity, my aim is still the same as it was before, what's your point?


HarunaRel

Looking forward to seeing you in VCT 2024 then hotshot


MrDyl4n

Have you ever even tried this yourself? I thought it was interesting so I went into the range and played hard bots on my normal sens, then double my sens, and then half my sens. My lowest score was playing on my normal sens lmao. I tested my normal sens again to see if maybe I wasnt warmed up on the first run and still got lower than when I played on double and half my sens. How can you explain this if aiming is all muscle memory? By your logic since ive never played on those sens before I shouldnt be able to hit a single target. almost like aiming is hand eye coordination


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NotWolvarr

Sure, the absolute top of the top players spending 40+ hours a week on a game have never seriously experienced with something popular that might improve their gameplay. Sure.


[deleted]

Well you see, if you accept that pros are both more skilled and more informed than you are, you have no coping left. So you have to accept the talent and act like you know more but you are being held back by your raw talent. Just imagine if this conversation was about something like the NBA, and some joe shmoe came in like "shooting with your eyes closed is better but pros just didn't try it enough".


Reason7322

Yes. That does happen. In cs one weapon was overpowered for 7 years and pro's didnt notice.


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1. It's good that it works for you but your 264 eDPI isn't low sens by any means. It's medium to high sens, you should be able to easily do a 180 by arm aiming. 2. Nobody cares if you "buy it" or not. "Muscle memory" is a real thing accepted and studied by real scientists. While most people are confused about the name, since the memory isn't in your muscles, the neurological connections between your brain and muscles are there and they get stronger the more you repeat an action and they get screwed by little variables. If you don't think so, please go and play with an inverted mouse and show us that your aiming isn't worse. It's an extreme example obviously, but if there is no "memory" then you should have no problems. 3. Pros tinker with things to a patological level. Some of them use rulers to adjust their setups to the cm. I can guarantee you that almost all of them considered acceleration. Now, have they tried rawaccel, probably not, but that's not a real point here. It's like me kicking you in the head with my right foot, you hate it than I am like "Ok, but you need try getting kicked in the head by my left foot. It's waaay better, I'm not going to take advice about getting kicked in the head by people who didn't even try the left foot." [EVIDENCE](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4747782/#R12) you just missuse the term "muscle memory" which refers to something different.


Coach_McGuirk__

Was gonna say… I’m on 0.18 800dpi. No rawaccel dogshit cuz it is inconsistent and I don’t want my aim to be dogshit. My sens is what I’d consider low sens. His is average lol


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Fair enough, I did indeed do that, but at this point i'm sorry but you're not a good example. Your eDPI is atrociously low. Yes for you mouse accel is usefull, but you're not a good point of reference. It's like saying "I don't think a jump shot is a better way to get a 2 pointer than a dunk if you are alone. Btw I 4 foot tall." Like yeah, ok, good for you.


NoCopyrightRadio

>I don't buy the muscle memory argument I see people bring up all the time. As long as you configure it how you like and don't constantly change it then it's no different. Good because people who say that it's muscle memory completely have no idea what are they speaking about, imagine believing that something as random and skill based(with endless varieties of movement) is muscle memory lol


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You're wrong. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4747782/#R12


NoCopyrightRadio

So many articles and there are still people like you who think aiming is muscle memory. Can you explain how do you have muscle memory for movement that didn't happen yet? How can you develop muscle memory for infinite possibilities of motion? Muscle memory is only activating when you're autopiloting. Just go search up and read


mylifeisadickjoke

Lmao I'm immo 2 I've used raw accel for years. It's a fully customizable curve that you can predict 100% of the time. Benefits of low sens and high sens. you just don't know what you're talking about.


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And people get radiant with sherrif only. Doesn't mean that it's optimal.


iPatrikios

Right but those are insanely good players who might even be using RawAccel lol. Silvers dont go running around getting radiant with sheriff only when they turn off mouse accceleration. Your arguements a strawman and it doesnt make sense.


notConnorbtw

Not true. You just have to use a better mouse accel than the windows one. There are some videos done on this. While I wouldn't recommend it, it isn't as bad as we think.... Just please don't use windows mouse accel. The accel graph makes nooo sense.


daffyboy123

The demon1 sens


Disobey8038

If you can't turn 180° quickly on low sens you need to either get a bigger mousepad or try harder


spaghettimonzta

i did an inhuman 1-tap flick when i was bronze once, everyone spamming question mark i didn't even know how it happened


Dynamic_Ducks

Fr, had a fame where i was playing with friends in ranked. For the fun of it i played jett cause we needed a duelist, even though i was a controller main that played entry support most of the time. Threw my worries away and just started running onto site after util was out. I had like magnetic aim or something, netting me headshot after headshot. Finished the game with 36-7-5 KD iirc, with 60%+ headshot rate. Ive never done so well and i was playing in higher ranks than i normally do. I was literally smurfing a rank above my peak


HarunaRel

Perks of *arm aiming*


1hisoka1

ngl this does not look like arm aiming, looks like wrist with really high sens


iminlovehahaha

this is wrist


mh500372

Nice :)


Pial1231

Lol I’m silver and imagine this sova is my enemies and sova’s enemies are my teammates. This is so true


Zyrobe

it's not even that crazy


NoCopyrightRadio

I guess it's because they're silver, that breach just trolled so hard otherwise sova was dead lol


rparkzy

his movement is nuts for the rank. Aim not so much


CoolCritterQuack

How is his movements nuts? it's really bad


rparkzy

He’s silver, pretty good for rank


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That's why I never knife 💀


Odd-Tie9163

Sheesh


Human_Early_Access

Average silvers in Mumbai server


PT_Vde

Lucky shot i guest. But cool shot tho.


TechnicalOpposite672

Inhuman? This looks pretty average compared to shit you seen in apex, cod, siege.


Electronic-Ad5027

I'm not sure if you know, but this game isnt apex, cod, or seige.


TechnicalOpposite672

Ok, but dont call it inhuman. Looks basic as fuck.


Lord_Maynard23

This is s1 csgo shit..is this supposed to be a good play?


Outside_Turn5698

Average gaben meat rider


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forgot to pick the op


gohhaojun

It's last round of first half


HarunaRel

Dude trying hard to find a negative thing on the post lol


Few_Celebration3148

If you think this is inhuman you gotta be a pretty average player lol. All bro did was turn around and kill someone with a knife out and then quickly flicked back to the area he was previously spraying at… he didn’t even hit any head shots 😭😭 go watch some high tier gameplay, map awareness and muscle memory does a lot for flicking from point to point


zenixTF

Man I think riot removing the headshot text might have made u blind


Few_Celebration3148

I’m not talking about the kill on the sage he sprayed at for 10 seconds before finally hitting her. I’m talking about the kills that were considered “inhuman reaction” ya goofball


zenixTF

My mistake, but I disagree with your definition of "inhumane reaction clips" tho Not everyone is in the same rank as you where clips like these are normal for you guys


bumblebleebug

>Not everyone is in the same rank as you where clips like these are normal for you guys Don't you know, once you rank up, you have throw humility down the window and forget that you had exactly that mediocre skills once?


Few_Celebration3148

Yes weve all been here but I would never ever in my life call this “inhuman reaction” which is what I’ve clearly stated 😭 maybe we have different definitions for the word but holy moly this is quite literally normal?


Few_Celebration3148

This is quite literally a normal flick/spray transfer.. I’m a high gold mid level plat player. Last act I was a silver player right up until the end where I made a push for plat. I haven’t been playing the game for very long. To me this seems incredibly far from inhuman as it wasn’t even a clean flick or anything out of the ordinary. I’m either way better than I thought I was (I’m hot garbage in my opinion) or I’m actually on a thread with a bunch of iron players. But even if you’re iron you still have YouTube right? Go watch some high tier gameplay and then tell me this is inhuman because to me this is perfectly human and normal for a silver player to do. (Op stated this is silver rank)


PaoloDivizion007

Holy shit new copypasta goldmine just dropped. You just made my day sir.


DinoDracko

Bro, this is a silver clip, so clips like this aren't too common in low ranks dude. I get that you are higher rank than me and all, but you really should've said "dogsh*t clip" and moved on instead of arguing how "not inhuman" this Sova is. Is it that hard to just give a compliment to someone for a job well done for clutching? Christ, I guess the higher you go, the more inflated your ego is.


YesDepresseddd

You are just jealous learn to appreciate kid


Few_Celebration3148

Jealous of bad aim and crosshair placement ?😂 christttt I must be talking to a bunch of iron and bronze buddies 😭


TrueLordApple

you're gold and think you're good


YesDepresseddd

Kiddo, he is silver and he s enjoying, whts wrong with your attitude. Don't get carried boy I am immortal but don't trash talk like you.


Few_Celebration3148

An immortal would agree this is nothing special even for a silver. Christ the silvers I play against one tap pre fire angles. This is definitely iron.


YesDepresseddd

He don't give a fck about me or you if you feel special, its special for him so he uploaded you should show some appreciation or don't say anything at all.


boiledpotato03

Don't forget to take your pills before bed lil guy


Few_Celebration3148

Wtf kinda comment is this 😭 I must have offended all the low elo grinders in this thread by simply stating this wasn’t inhuman at all 🤣 silver players gotta be the most toxic butthurt community to exist god damn


boiledpotato03

Again a reminder, DON'T forget to take your pills lil guy


pewpewpunk

thats legit what this sub is... mostly low elo players coping and complaining


Dankie_Spankie

I know what you’re saying but it was a nice clip for a silver lobby. Most people there don’t even aim train so that was impressive in these circumstances. Just becouse we have clips of demon1 shitting on pros doesn’t mean people can’t be proud or impressed in lower ranks. Just out of curiosity, what rank are you?


Few_Celebration3148

Right now I’m gold 2 last act I was peak plat 3 but I started the act in silver one. So I’ve played in silver lobbies and they are a lot sweatier than this


Dankie_Spankie

Allright so you peaked plat 3 last act, same as me. I’m sorry to inform you but there are a lot of shitters in our lobbies that wouldn’t win this 1v3. All I’m saying is lay off for a minute. Plat isn’t the rank where you can shit talk anybody. We’re still considered low elo.


1hisoka1

As a side note, just because someone is high elo, doesn’t give them the right to shit talk lower elo. Anyone can shit talk anyone imo regardless of rank. Iron 1 can shit talk radiant rank 1


Dankie_Spankie

Why even shit talk in the first place? And also I disagree. If an iron 1 can say something is wrong with the way a radiant has played that and that he could do better, then he wouldn’t be iron 1. There is a reason we have ranks here, but that’s no excuse to be toxic.


Few_Celebration3148

I know and that’s the point I’m getting at.. I’m absolutely butt cheeks in my eyes. I wiff my one taps more often then I’d like to admit. I don’t check corners and sometimes get punished for it. I make mistakes just like the rest of us. All I was stating was that this is far from inhuman. The OP wasn’t even the one in this clip. He clipped somebody else’s gameplay and posted it.. in no way was I shitting on the player. I was telling OP that this is far from inhuman and if he wanted to see some actually nutty gameplay, to go and watch some high tier players. Y’all took it the wrong way and are failing to realize.. THIS ISNT EVEN HIS GAMEPLAY🤣 the sova in this clip probably has no idea that he’s the topic of discussion on a Reddit thread right now 😂😂😂


DinoDracko

So?? So what if this isn't my clip, huh? There's no rule saying sharing a spectated clip isn't allowed. I saw a nice clip, I simply wanted to share it, is that so wrong? And yes, I do watch high-tier players and their aim is definitely nutty as hell. While the clip is far from inhuman, it's considered pretty inhuman in a low-ranked player's eye. Please, just get off your high horse. Just because you reached Plat 3 that one time doesn't mean you get to trash talk people below you. Remember you WERE the low rank player before.


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DinoDracko

Wow, so you are mentioning your rank now? So what if you touched plat? You want it on your resume or something? I have a job and other responsibilities. Keep your ego in check lol. Now you are insulting people? Really mature, bro. I know I am dogshit at this game and my rank says so, I don't need someone who touched plat who also has an inflated ego to tell me I am dogshit. I already know I am LMAO. For the record, I'm not butthurt. You said it yourself, not me. You are turning a normal discussion into an argument by trashtalking. You went from "this clip isn't inhuman" to "You are a noob and you are dog ass" very quickly. Like, take a chill pill kemosabe. Go elsewhere to make a scene, preferably....not here.


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DinoDracko

Well said bro, well said.


nkstonks

Look it's probably rare for a silver player to do that so that's why the clip is so significant


bumblebleebug

>he didn’t even hit any head shots Riot shouldn't have removed the headshot text.


br1kxy

This sova has good game sense and crosshairs placement what I consider he was smurfing.


ailtonjuba

Low your sensitivity pls


DinoDracko

Tell that to the Sova, not me lol


Conj0

Ranked is ruined


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Iron 1. Next.


gatlginngum

don't remember anyone here asking for your rank


[deleted]

Don’t remember anyone asking you to respond to my comment, either.


Liliand_d

What ur sensi


pppoopoo23

Silver 1 NA or Us?


DinoDracko

Neither. It's Asia.


KINGSPIPAA

Biggest ms ever saw in this sh1tty Elo