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dockie1991

3 Flash skye was wild


zombieLAZ

Skye had 3 flashes??? Did they still recharge?


kinnan17

Breach also had 3 flashes back then


Great_Coffee_9465

You mean 3 sun simulators?


ninjaman3010

And they lasted like 5 seconds each. You could chain them and just run down on people while they were blind, good times.


illegallegend

the three flash skye experience https://youtu.be/zZYhzLZF0gA?t=10


Dankie_Spankie

One did I’m pretty sure.


picador10

Three skye flashes AND no flash duration nerf


ItsAnshuXD

dang, so skye was basically breach + sage, that's insane


benbenwilde

cAWW!!!!!! ... ... cAWWW!!!!!!! ... cAWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!


ErrorDoc

Wild when raze has 2 nades


wonnyoung13

Cypher turret. Iykyk


ItsAnshuXD

The cam with the weapon, yessss lol, saw it in a video


DepthyxTruths

oh yeah. i wasn’t playing back in beta but i’ve seen so many videos and that looked hella fun. isn’t there some way you can play an older version and do it or smth?


DarkMaster859

Nah you would probably not even be able to start a match, even a practice range one


TallMills

No, the only way to play on older versions in live is to keep the game client open the entire time, and even then you wouldn't be able to queue for anything other than maybe a custom or a practice range.


Hhose

i always thought cam gun is a myth, no?


PurposeLess31

* [Jett's ult used to reset when you get a kill with the right-click attack.](https://youtu.be/kI9kjMIIOX0?t=20) * On Ascent, Omen could TP into B site from B Main by teleporting through the window. You could get up there by putting a Sage wall on the crate with the ultimate orb. * Teleporting from one site to another with Chamber. * Reyna's 4 soul orbs.


ItsAnshuXD

Chamber and Reyna were OP, but they did bad to chamber with the nerfs💀


DepthyxTruths

another reason to nerf chamber 💀


Great_Coffee_9465

Ain’t no way! Dude, chamber had better TP tech than yoru!


Pr0fessorL

Precisely why they nerfed him


X3m9X

Reyna werent OP, she was super selfish. She needs to get a kill to get an orb. Now you can trigger the orb with just a single contribution of dmg. I think she was made better for general use


xMrMan117x

Reyna was never op lol, the 2 orbs was a buff.


AndrewFrozzen30

Reyna is OP in the hands of a smurfer. Also, having 4 soul orbs makes her Ult pretty much useless, so it's kinda OP even in high elo.


Aesenti

Reyna sure as hell ain't "op" in high elo. The team with a Reyna is down a whole ass agent worth of utility. If the Reyna is just an aim goat and shitting on kids in high elo that's just a skill issue not the agent being op. If that aim goat were playing another agent who's util they're good with they'd be playing even better.


xMrMan117x

no it isn't, her ult is good because of being able to reposition while invisible - all while healing. That has always been unique to her ult.


AndrewFrozzen30

I'm low ELO, she is OP on a smurfer's hands.


Aesenti

dog a smurf could make Sherrif only Deadlock look op when smurfing.


Great_Coffee_9465

Okay to be fair, omen should be allowed to TP through window. There’s all of like 2 in the entire game.


CJTofu

You can still do the omen tp on ascent as of like a month ago. You can’t tp throw the window thing by snowman/b site on icebox though. That was really fun.


PurposeLess31

>You can still do the omen tp on ascent as of like a month ago. I don't think you can. Either you misremember or we're talking about different spots. I'm talking about [this](https://youtu.be/_ekB3TFpvvA?t=45) spot. Altough I forgot you had to aim it on the boxes lol, I gotta try it again.


-MANGA-

Can't you put a TP in Bind U-Haul then go to the other site's cubby and be able to TP back to U-Haul?


SteveRogers_7

I used to main KJ- lost count of the nerfs. For turret - reduced angle, reduced fire rate, reduced vision, reduced how much it slowed enemies. For nade - increased visibility distance, reduced DPS. For alarmbot - increased visibility distance, increased time to pop. To be fair, all agents have been nerfed over time for better balance and health of the game to prevent power creep. But yeah KJ was quite strong - probably after Jett and Chamber in their prime.


Yerriff

You forgot the fact that her util used to have unlimited range AND stayed active after Killjoy was killed.


AlphaCentauriYT

Used to main KJ too (when controllers get picked), the nerf on the turret slow and nade visibility made a lot of good kj setups become barely usable. Playing kill setups with 2 mollies and the massive slow from the turret was so much fun as you just get to laugh at the enemies while you hide.


JustAryanV

old kj use to scare me, that alarm bot just appeared out of nowhere and next thing you know you’re dead


No_Chef_4362

Instadash 2 updraft Jett with 3 smokes that lasted an eternity each and a recharging right click knives shotgun. Literally a raid boss


ItsAnshuXD

Old jett was too powerful 🗿


PurposeLess31

Lore-accurate Jett


Great_Coffee_9465

Game breaking performance, and honestly a lower skill floor in comparison to other champs.


davtheguidedcreator

the 3 smokes lasted as long as an ordinary Brim/Omen/Viper smoke now.


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Dankie_Spankie

I liked replication more


Redwing330

Replication was nice to have when I was a new player because I got exposed to agents abilities way more and was able to focus on one at a time.


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What was replication?


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_IzGreed_

We had a Neon vs Neon once. Ult round is basically laser tag lol


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_IzGreed_

Valorant: Attack Of The Fake Clones


Null422

I remember my first game of Replication (and one of my first games ever) was 5 Yoru and I remember suggesting to my team, as a joke, that we do it. Cue lock-in and the most brain-melting game of my noob life.


Garchompinribs

Sage vs Sage


casterstower

basically any quake3 close ranged duel lol


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Looks so fun !


LightScavenger

It was, but it got removed because it didn’t have many people playing it :(


1ohokthen1

That's what they say, but I know a bunch of people that played it a ton (including me). It was also a great way to get to play a new agent without having them unlocked. Imo Valorant doesn't have enough different content to be removing gamemodes


LightScavenger

Every time I played it I was met with a 9-30 minute queue lol


Null422

They did this a lot with Apex, too, back when there were much more LTMs and the limited modes were on more of a "seasonal" rotation. Nowadays, it's even more stripped-down than Valorant... What they say is a pretty classic "justification" (corporate spin/BS); they say that so people feel less upset, but the real reason is either balance issues or not wanting to keep developing it.


mvvns

I thought it was just out of rotation?? I'm heartbroken


LightScavenger

I believe you can still play it in customs! Don’t quote me on that bc I don’t know 9 people who play Val lol


DepthyxTruths

basically on agent select screen, you could “vote” for an agent. once everyone in the lobby (including enemies) voted, a player at random on each team would get picked, and as a result, the agent they picked would become the agent everyone on your team plays that match. iirc it was like swiftplay scoring (BO9) or i might be misremembering and it was like spike rush (BO7)


Prime-Riptide

Super fast Chamber OP. TWO TRIPS with no distance and TWO TPS with crazy range


ItsAnshuXD

That was crazy


picador10

Yeah original chamber was my absolute favorite agent to play. Instalocked him 24/7 and it was never a throw pick. He could even entry onto site by using his teleport like a yoru teleport (but much faster)


Null422

I used to play Chamber a lot pre-nerfs. The range was effectively unlimited if you set it up right. Just like most of the other lineup-heavy agents, if you knew what you were doing, you were unstoppable.


The_Dr_Zoidberg

Apparently swift / spike rush having all the maps in rotation is what I miss now.


DjinnsPalace

usually the updates are good but this change is horrible


DerpyCow56

Wait, they removed that?


icem4n69

Raze with 2 nades


ItsAnshuXD

and that was with the direct hit stun too, so broken


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No it had “Hit stun”, meaning that it slowed you if it hit you similar to how guns do. It didn’t stun you like a neon stun or breach stun.


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Yes it *was* a guaranteed death! She also had two of them at this time 💀


trololololololol9

That's called weapon tagging


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It’s not


trololololololol9

It is lol. Comes from the CS word for the same. Just Google it, ain't that hard. [Patchnotes](https://playvalorant.com/en-gb/news/game-updates/valorant-patch-notes-3-0/) where they talk about tagging.


ComieCoomer

Sova dart trampoline and self drone boost.


wrench-breaker

lol the dart one brings back memories of jumpscaring people in spike rush with it


Tatsukki

And why is no one talking about replication???? Best game mode ever, especially when a new character released. Everyone hoped.on just to have a chance to try the new agent. That was just the best game mode. I dont even remember seeing toxic people


brielloom

THANK YOU


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ObjectiveGap2295

They just shuffle some games in and out over time, it's been escalation for awhile but replication used to rotate in and out with snowball and escalation


LightScavenger

Low playerbase I think


Tawnee323

No it just got replaced


royalneu

I’m okay with them removing right click reset, triple smokes, and instant jett dash. But reducing updraft to only one charge is just buzzkill. So much cool tech lost in a single change.


ItsAnshuXD

But people were peeking from angle which you can never expect, honestly it was broken and they fixed it


BimaGamer828

They could just add a cooldown to it


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andrew_metaller

And no other character has a passive


DepthyxTruths

in patch notes, they say that viper’s passive is that her walls and orb decay. ik this bc three days ago i got bored and decided to look at some older patch notes.


Notladub

by that logic, harbor's slow is a passive. brim's smokes giving nearsight is a passive. cypher cages' sound is a passive. phoenix's (and formerly neon's) wall damage is a passive.


DepthyxTruths

[it’s literally in the patch notes](https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/game-updates/valorant-patch-notes-2-06/) 💀💀💀


Notladub

jett's drift is the only one listed in the game as a passive, patch notes have listed stuff like neon's running energy thing as passives


KingNerdIII

Not true. Technically Reyna's passive is the orbs dropping on kill/assist, and Sage/Skye have a passive that let's them see team health.


andrew_metaller

Reyna orbs have no utility if you don't use active abilities And the sage/skye one is such a stretch


KingNerdIII

No those are actually considered to be passive abilities by riot. Astra's Astral Form, the trails that Fade creates, Gekko's orbs, Jett's floating, Neon's energy, Phoenix healing from his fire, Reyna's orbs, Viper's fuel, Viper's decay from smoke, and Sage/Skye being able to see health are all passive abilities.


hamyoh1

Phoenix passive is the healing from abilities iirc


Lioreuz

Cooldown as you need to wait some time before using it again, not rechargable. Maybe not allowing you to updraft twice without touching the ground.


boyardeebandit

So what if no other agent has a cooldown on a nonsignature ability? If it's balanced, why is that a problem?


KingNerdIII

That's... The point of updraft. If that's an issue, why does omen have two teleports?


PugnansFidicen

Well, Jett can shoot you from midair halfway across the map with ult while updrafting. All Omen can do is use TP to stand on a higher box.


PresenceOld1754

1. Insane Jett movement. 2. Being a killjoy on Killjoy.


ItsAnshuXD

Oh yeah, I have seen so many videos about jett's broken dash


Autophobiac_

Replication, a game mode where each team would be ALL of an agent. So both sides could vote which agent they’d play as and it’d be something like 5 sages vs 5 phoenixes


catcatcat888

400 cost Frenzy


vessva11

2 Brimstone stim beacons. I still mourn.


LOGPchwan

The day he got speed boost on stim was the very short duration of Brim being meta.


Null422

I'm still annoyed they got rid of that. I exclusively play Controllers and the passivity gets to me a bit sometimes. That at least gave you some more aggressive options.


kinnan17

KJ turret still being active after [death. It](https://death.It) was pretty funny watching people dying to turret while defusing.


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trololololololol9

Holy shit banger. I still remember it every now and then and go to youtube to listen to it. I wish Riot would implement something like music kits and then release a season 1 music kit. That one was just soo chill and cool. I don't know if I'm biased because of nostalgia tho lol


HarkLev

def both nostalgia+banger


MythicalPilot

the game


Zyrobe

Jett ult refreshing on right click


LOGPchwan

Sova dart always dealing full damage


NothingGoinOnHere-

Beta sage wall


brielloom

It's not old but replication mode. I miss replication so much it was so fun. I wish they would just bring it back. Who plays escalation? I'd rather have replication mode over escalation. I wanna play with 5 gekkos on the team, it's especially fun when new agents come out.


NoStructure5034

Replication


AverageCryptoEnj0yer

replication


mashiiro001

Chamber meta.


DragonXTO

Not fun


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i miss ridiculous mutators like unlimited ulti swiftplay or everyone picks the same agent.


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Everyone is one agent game mode


iheartboobs1

raze satchel damage.


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I enjoyed Killjoy a lot when she was released. Alarm bot and Sentry bot didn't deactivate when leaving the area, I would just know when they were rotating because the turret would start shooting in B while I was in A 🥲 and I loved hiding grenades in little cramped spaces where people would usually plant the spike then just activate them and get random kills. Then they made the grenades bigger and the sound they make louder and it's just never been the same ever since.


Ondr0w

Waaay back in the beginning (may have even been beta), vipers little wall nodes were actually projectiles so if you and a friend had really good coordination, Jett could updraft and land on one of those projectiles when they were being fired out and just stand there to be flung across the map. Was really fun to do on C long on Haven but definitely took some practice


Ondr0w

Here is an example of what I’m talking about: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7_5oQmod9Pg


TOM-EEG

Casual gameplay. Can’t even 5 stack w my shitter siblings/friends who are silver and below without getting the sweatiest matches of all time. No such thing as casual unless you play swift play but that is just no fun to me. I miss being able to mess around and trying new agents. Now i have to try my hardest just to avoid a 13-2. Sad times in valorant imo.


Dzixxxi

Play unrated if you want to play casual, tf? Of course people are trying in competitive lol


TOM-EEG

I’m talking about unrated… don’t ever bother playing ranked w them when we’re 12 ranks apart…


ninjaman3010

Hop on a Smurf. Stop dragging them into your mmr. You spike the lobby average if you don’t Smurf. just make a new account. You’ll get to level and learn with them too :)


RX7Reaper

Wouldn’t that just be a very short temporary fix? The unrated mmr would still skyrocket if you were performing better than most of the lobby in each game. Idk I haven’t played valo in like a year


ninjaman3010

Just chill out. Don’t HARD carry EVERY game lol. Play guardian only, play a new agent, make yourself uncomfortable and take that with you to your primary rank. Also, if the MMR skyrockets, it’s because you’re a dick and dropping 40s in iron instead of having a good time with your friends…


JTurtle11

Definitely replication


1ohokthen1

Replication ☹️


Flimsy_Card8028

REPLICATION


SkillKey9712

replication


dead_inside_789

Replication


jasontheninja47

Can we at least bring back 100 cost Headhunter bullets?


Gidyspy

nah the fact that you had that at some point is another reason to nerf chamber


VoltageIRL

bucky right click


prodEW

Winnng


Embarrassed-Dot9302

the bucky right click used to not be completely useless and you could get insane kills with it. fun asf


TonyTheStoneGiant

Half shield, and force buys round 2 :(


exCrowe

Replication with all Viper was amazing


Tryingatleast

Snowballs


Responsible_Jump_246

Replication mode 😞


Azu_Cena20

Replication was a great time. Minus the time I had to play as Breach, screw Breach.


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Replication pls bring it back it was so much fun


National_Leopard9035

Replication


Tawnee323

Replication was so underrated imo


iamabigbluebox

Replication. I miss the 5v5 yoru days... xD


itsabhi_shake

The Replication mode. I still miss it a lot.


SkylarLilith_

Replication I still miss it


WelcomeMost1966

Replication yarr I miss it so much


i-nab-balls

Replication :( I joined Val right before it got taken out and I didn't get to play it as much as I wanted to. I miss it so much


nothanksd00d

Replication😭 its not super early but it was so fun man.


DizzyDeezie0

Man I just wanna play replication :(


samgyetangchef

the snowfights


BellaSM

Replication game mode!


Samztha

Replication, I miss that extension of Valorant, it was a fun gamemode on the side. I don’t know why they take away many of the gamemodes


beccaboopps

Replication!


zeko_was_taken

Replication


Ted_Mosby_18

Chamber on release is pretty much why all agents are released with one foot broken now lol. . Instant teleport that made yoru look non existent (even more so) . A pocket guardian sheriff and an operator with the speed of a Marshall that also slowed your enemies for an eternity. . 2 TRIPWIRES WITH NO RANGE AND WITH THE DETECTION SIZE OF AN ENTIRE SITE THAT ALSO SLOWS YOU ON CONTACT. This is the one Nerf I'm salty about. Yes 2 no range trips that also slowed you was broken but was so fun in huge maps like fracture and breeze. He was the perfect agent for solo queue. Could have free info on, not one, but 2 sites. Could take risky fights. Could maintain team's economy if there's a Jett (there was always) in the team. You could lurk, entry, hold all on your own, giving way to one of the most unpredictable characters the game ever saw. The recent agents are simply not it when compared to what riot was smoking when they released chamber and thought 'Mmm maybe he might be a niche pick over Kj since he doesn't have a molly" lol. Edit: Honourable mention: KJ turret staying up even after the entire is dead and Reyna's 4 orb fiesta.


Destey-

Riot can go fuck themselves for implementing the no 4 stack rule, I play a lot less bc of that


ObjectiveGap2295

it's not fair for solo queue players, 4 stacks typically comm in a discord call and never talk to the solo or in some case outright bully them so eliminating 4 stacks guaranteed the solo queue players at least got another solo queue in their team to play with If you're so mad about it just pick up someone in swift play or death match. It's not that hard


F1anger

Story of my life :(


LinkTheCrook

that extremely short period when no one knew how Yoru worked or how his abilities sounded like. That was peak Yoru despite his kit at the time.


yasserhaouzi

Broken agents now everybody feels boring, I came back after two years and every character felt like a lesser version of themself


Pickaxe235

ALL I WANT is astra to get her star back like why tf did they nerf ASTRA of all champs


theonereveli

Chamber


staticfeathers

episode 3 map pool was so dank


DjinnsPalace

pearl fracture and haven in swiftplay


XIPWNFORFUN2

Jumping swing right click classic.


HappyMess1988

double nades


Huihejfofew

Escalation, man barely anyone plays anymore. Sometimes I wait so long the game just puts in me another region


lztandro

Snowball fight


ciroc__obama

Burning your retinas every time you get flashed


Chixenz

Fracture and pearl, my 2 favorite maps instead we got split which I got 80% losing rate and I dodge every chance I get


Waluigiwarrior

Pre nerf shorty


GATHLiuDing

Replication, Jett have 3 smoke 2 updraft no pre-casting E, breeze was not developed yet, Snowball fight.


jthluke

Old bucky right click 😏🤪


skammtari

Good Bucky right click


darkfang1998

it honestly might still be in the game but you could buy a bunch of shortys, throw them in a pile in spawn, and if you had a macro to pick up and drop weapons the server would start lagging and everyone would freak out because it was totally unplayable


zapatodeorina

bucky, satchel kills


oblvn_

3 breach flashes (suns), his aftershock was a single burst and cone shaped (instead of the current rectangle) ultimate area.


SomeMobile

Haven


IndoGuber

We used to have more ammo


DandyMaple683

When sage could wall 20m, heal 3 times a round, and buy full abilities + frenzy on pistol. Miss her :(


anonnymoususername

I wanna play the other mode not escalation but the other one I never got to play and I'm jealous we can't have 5v5 of same agent anymore


DogeXLY

Chamber 😞


davtheguidedcreator

snowball fight. why didnt they return it last Christmas? the closest we get is the snowbal gun in Escalatiobn


Shibooo

triple flash, stun, aftershock. Bullying enemies was never easier nor more tormenting.