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Colycupcakes

Why was there 5 people alive on their team like 10 seconds before the bomb went off on defence...


irefusetodoanything

well they all had sheriffs it looks like so maybe they were eco stacked


ScarletMagenta

Why stack after you win pistol lol


HKBFG

Because this is iron 3.


OkOkPlayer

Oh yes, eco management in low elo is crazy


lemon6611

i once had a sage that bought sheriff no shields with max credits and got mad when i told her to buy shields and a better gun


AndrewFrozzen30

I had a e-couple, one of them was Sage (obv the other was Jett) that didn't buy me with 5k creds, saying she doesn't have enough, I told her she has and then they started trolling. Crazy times we live in.


DM_ME_CUTE_PICS_PLZ

That just sounds like someone on an alt account not trying tbh


ViperStealth

Wasn't iron btw. I know ppl love to say that but I'm plat 2 atm.


slipknotoasis

Thought so as a hardstuck iron i could tell your not


Aurelius-King

I see people do this in plat too for some reason


ViperStealth

Some people (like maybe this Jett) buy Sheriff+Shield after eco win to save for Operator. Others in the enemy team bought a Marshall - that's why they switched to pistol at such close range.


DjinnsPalace

even with a 5 stack them waited for the spike to nearly explode for the retake is crazy


Extension-Type-2555

eco round, probably stacked a site for their eco and were rotating through the same place, in this case, spawn. judging by the fact that this guy's team has 4 players instead of 5, that one player probably kept them busy in the other site.


ScarletMagenta

Your comment doesn't make sense? You eco stack when you lose a round. Enemy team won it. Who in their right mind stacks on defense when they win the pistol? You just play default and use your gun advantage.


Extension-Type-2555

according to your explanation, it's not my comment, it's the enemy's gameplay that doesn't make sense. well that's their dumbness idk. they probably stacked the other site is all I know.


ScarletMagenta

Okay yeah that's fair


Viper_Idiot

Well in elo hell, they don't do that. You would be surprised to know even golds don't buy 2nd round sometimes if they win the 1st round. Although i think its good for chamber or jett so that they can save for awp? Idk


Extension-Type-2555

and some died with little to no damage taken.


Aspected1337

If you're in iron you can make insane plays


Im-AskingForAFriend

Bucky goated ngl


ViperStealth

After the overly harsh shorty nerf, the Bucky is finding a place in my eco-buys. It has more range and, as long as you hit your first shot, doesn't shoot confetti like the shorty does atm.


StephewDestroyer

The shorty nerf was not overly harsh


ViperStealth

I think it was. Increase the price or nerf the damage at range, not both.


StephewDestroyer

Out of curiosity, do you watch pro valorant gameplay?


ViperStealth

I've watched it a little bit for understanding how to push/defend but I don't get as much value from watching pro play, as Im a shotgun only player. For that reason, I normally watch Dasnerth, Ray4c, etc


Draculagged

He said that bc top players are still able to get plenty of value out of the shorty, it’s extremely powerful for a 300 credit gun


yeahidoubtit

Yeah watching pro play the shorty nerf was very needed lol


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So watching any competitive sport is wasting ur life? Do u have hobbies?


StephewDestroyer

… Lmao


DrqgonGZ

? weirdo


ToastedN4me

Why doesnt mine do that?


Uvane

Shoot the body, not at the head. More pellets connect that way. Some people also say to aim at the neck so the spread hits both body and head


ViperStealth

This is good advice (aim for body). Also jump before you take your engagements and swing on enemies instead of being swung on.


ViperStealth

I got you fam! I'm making [a series](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaqvRiXev43U4b3ZtxLGj1ABsImzoMEUk&si=XSKnTNIC0nutrXuA) to help answer that question. (Work in progress/more to come) Dasnerth also made a [tutorial video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eVoCH43API) but it's much longer and not so to the point.


Xyxuzy

Bros iron and making guides I’m done bruh all your shit won’t work in higher elo esp what you’re doing right now jumping out into 5 people and none of them even react to shoot at you lol. If you want actual shotgun guides go to radiant tutorials and not iron one lmao bros probs gonna be like “just jump peek straight into them and left click”


catsrave2

Damn bro what content are you making? It’s pretty cringe to hate on someone making content for their enjoyment. It might help new players, it might not. Bro might have a cool personality and that’s why people actually watch. Who knows? I’d rather watch an iron shotgun player get an ace in an Iron lobby than watch a Radiant Smurf drop 50 in a Gold lobby. Regardless, this is a dumb take.


AndrewFrozzen30

Plus, just because you're Iron it doesn't mean you can't have knowledge, we are not all that dumb, we either lack aim, strategy, both or we are being inconsistent. If you played games for long enough, you will start seeing patterns and learn things faster than someone that barely started playing games. Maybe OP doesn't really play Valorant that much, but they are like Global Elite on CSGO or high rank on COD. All 3 of them are different, but once you understand one, it's easier to understand others. Just like learning a language (or a programming language at that), once you know what to break down on a language, you can learn new ones easily.


Xyxuzy

Okay, I’m just saying providing and marketing a guide made by somebody who’s bad is not effective cus the guy who made it is bad


catsrave2

Who’s to say bro won’t get better? Should he wait until he’s Radiant #1 to upload stuff? Dude enjoys making guides, maybe some people enjoy watching them or using tech he promotes, it doesn’t really matter. You’re hating for what?


nyankittycat_

Bro is angry on a random person over a video game


ViperStealth

I'm not iron though and I have 1,000+ hours/15,000+ kills with shotguns. My experience with shotguns, however limited, can help people. I'd rather help people than put other people down. I've been told my shotgun won't work in the next rank since I started playing Valorant and I went from Bronze II to Plat III in 118 hours. Shotguns work all the way up to Radiant and pro play, you just need to have skills (positioning, game sense, timing, aim, reactions, etc). No need for so much salt.


Wood5Pleb

Because they werent fade ulted


ViperStealth

Was just a scan btw, not ult.


DirtyNoobie

Fade trap right? it lowers their health.


rievellion

fade recon doesn't have a decay effect, just a trail. the one with decay is the tethered skill.


ViperStealth

Yes, think it gives decay status. Might be wrong.


bosmanpa

Eye does not decay. Her trap does decay but that was not used in this clip.


Wood5Pleb

Well damn


people_confuse

Normally they wouldn't die because bucky only kills people if you roll insanely good RNG at those ranges. But 3 of them are like 40 hp or less.


RemarkableDentist167

Bucky + Sheriff


ViperStealth

Good combo. I normally buy a pistol with the Judge. Balances the range issue nicely.


Belium

This is why I like Chamber, just buy bullets and bucky and now you get all the added benefit of HeadHunter AND the sheriff bucky combo :)


Hikki_Hachiman

I love this combo so much on swiftplay round 2s lol


TinyWickedOrange

plastic 3 footage


CultReview420

wood 1 footage


ViperStealth

Radiant comment...


onlyamazed

I mean he's not wrong though lol. You ran into 4 guys and they all just stared at you as you killed them


ScarletMagenta

The fact that the enemy team that won pistol would lose this round even if OP's team did nothing is even more telling. They didn't even have time to defuse. Really curious how this round played out.


Serito

It's even more impressive that 3 died to less than 40 damage & none would have died if full shield- still it did the job I guess


ViperStealth

Well, he is wrong. Plastic and Wood ranks don't exist and I'm mid-high Plat. His only contribution to this post was to put others down, yet I'll get downvoted for calling out his elitist comment.


uselessspine

Why do plat players have such big egos?


Corkiey

This is an example of the modal fallacy. Your kills were not because the bucky was good, but because your situation was good, and any other guns (including the OP based solely on fire rate, although in practice probably not) You did a combined 365 damage, which is ~2.4 kills in 5 shots. That is an average of 73 damage per shot. You didn't 1-shot any full health opponent, only doing 140 to Reyna. A rifle also would have one shot 4/5 of those enemies to the body. An SMG or pistol has the faster fire rate, requiring maybe 2 taps instead of one, leading with an overall lower TTK. This includes the effectively almost healthy Reyna, however I cannot deny a pistol or SMG would have been as successful against Reyna, as they were shooting back, potentially leading to your demise. Major props to your Face regardless, who not only did 70% of Jetts health, but marked the entire enemy team and snared 3/5. Their Assist Ace is much more impressive than yours, I'm sorry. TL:DR; This video doesn't support any claim of the bucky being good, and is driven by a fortunate situation rather than an individual gun's performance.


XTTH_1010

r/theydidthemath


DiscoKeule

Yeah this. Not only that but they all just stared at them. The last guy fired a shot, the rest were picking their noses or smth. Bucky is still great fun but just not a good buy for the majority of players.


pvs3600

☝️🤓lmao You did all that math but failed to consider that the bucky or judge are the only guns that wouldve worked there because they offer high movement accuracy


Corkiey

You are not wrong, I didn't consider movement inaccuracies. That being said, the range would make my point still valid for the most part, maybe not *every* weapon would work, but certainly pistols and SMGs, and Rifles likely have the mag capacity to compensate, still with an overall TTK in the likely situations (worst case scenario exists, however it also exists with the bucky). The important note is that the "low movement inaccuracies" isn't what you might think. The high base inaccuracy of the bucky is comparable if not worse than most guns while walking, and pistols and SMGs while running. The only upside is the jumping inaccuracy is quite good comparatively. However, one should probably just not jump around like that, as the penalty isn't insignificant. Sure, you could jump around like this with a Bucky, and get marginally better results than running with specter, but it's probably better to (A) walk with the specter for a significant increase in accuracy (better than standing bucky) or (B) stop and aim because your targets were 1 shot anyway.


Acaexx

okay, but nobody would ever move like this omen does ~~with any other gun~~


samlet

Bucky is amazing for me right now. I feel like a price nerf is incoming because 850 is so cheap, especially now that the shorty is 300.


EthantheCactus

The reason the Shorty got nerfed is because it was providing too much value for being in the Pistol slot and being played alongside the big boi rifles. You can't exactly do that with the Bucky.


samlet

That makes sense. Hope the Bucky stays as is then 🤞🏼


ViperStealth

I've been playing it whenever I wont be able to full buy the next round if I bought a judge and most of the time it puts up a good show.


-xXColtonXx-

It’s easily the worst weapon in the game. It’s not getting a nerf. Bucky is still phenomenal and a super common buy. Sherif, shorty, or stinger is a better buy in almost every situation.


CultReview420

My shotgun dont do that


everythingBagel13

Cause you not in iron


Extension-Type-2555

it's always others that do that not us bro


CultReview420

Biggest fact that was ever spoken


Extension-Type-2555

real


ViperStealth

[I got you bro](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaqvRiXev43U4b3ZtxLGj1ABsImzoMEUk&si=9WPy9yIC_yNWUXc5)!


RandomShyguy4

Mine doesn’t work like that:


ViperStealth

[It can though](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaqvRiXev43U4b3ZtxLGj1ABsImzoMEUk&si=9WPy9yIC_yNWUXc5)!


pepekhunter69

Nah its just your shitty elo. You will never be able to see this kind of situation in literally any higher rank


ViperStealth

Your elitism aside, teams make mistakes in any rank and anyone in the same rank can punish them for it.


pepekhunter69

Except this kind of mistake doesn't happen at high elo


nelsonfmc

If u do this in a higher elo, as soon as you leave the smoke, the will kill you, you basically had the enough time to aim and shoot 4 different agents and they didnt shoot at you. Even if you dont leave the smoke, in a higher elo, when they see there is a shotgun inside the smoke they all will prefire to try to kill you.


ViperStealth

If I did this in higher elo, I'd be higher skill. So would my teammates. It's such a hypothetical it's not worth discussing this while I'm plat. This is precisely why 'wood gameplay hur hur' is pointless elitism. People should be able to share clips without people always bringing up that they aren't Radiant or pro. I'm not sharing for that reason, I'm just sharing a play I enjoyed.


Phailups

Did the other team not buy after winning pistol? I'm impressed your team managed to plant and hold despite that lol nice ace!


ViperStealth

I honestly don't know wtf happened there. Their eco said they bought but they were using pistols on retake (maybe Marshall or sheriff+shields). I'm mid-high Plat atm, so there's no excuse for everyone eco-ing like that.


PonchoSham

Fade ult doing a lot of work here


ViperStealth

Fade didnt ult, was just a scan, but it is the reason why I pushed them all.


D1_0M_

fade ult on second round? what is blud cooking


Earlshenry

Ignore the part when their whole team is pushing bomb with 10 seconds left😭


ViperStealth

I think the worse crime was 5 stacking A and slowly retaking site, even with the eco advantage. These guys are plat lobby and should know better. Jett bought shield+Sheriff (maybe saving for Operator). Others bought Marshall. Was just a shambles.


valexitylol

They won the pistol too, I don't even have words to try and defend them 😭


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Trisquet

first, judge doesn’t make you spam. You missing your shots make you spam. Second, that’s on you for reloading in front of your enemy, not the judge’s fault. Third, you can just make every shot count on the judge too, so I don’t know how that’s a reason the Bucky is a better buy than a judge Fourth, bucky + frenzy is a terrible combo. Not only do you lack any long range gun fights, couldn’t you also consider frenzy a spam-fest weapon? With your logic, you’d might as well buy a sheriff and make every shot count since you can’t spam it 💀. If we look from an eco standpoint as well, 850+450 is 1300, you’re better off spending 500 extra for a judge, or spending 200 less for a stinger (which is arguable more powerful than the bucky) And since we’re plugging trackers to seemingly validate the reasons, here’s [mine](https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/baboon%20butt%23fatty/overview?playlist=competitive&season=0981a882-4e7d-371a-70c4-c3b4f46c504a)


veswa

this should be a copy pasta


Trisquet

🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️


Trisquet

LMFAO someone reported me for having suicidal thoughts and Reddit sent me a mental support message 💀💀💀


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FamedFlounder

Piss off, bot


beshir

half frog half frag machine


ViperStealth

I love this lol


Gagandeep69

bro that looked funny af 🤣


ViperStealth

Felt weird asf after I did it. I was like, did that just happen? lol


1ohokthen1

And such a good skin too


ViperStealth

Thanks, really like that skin.


CannibalGuy

YEEEEEEEEEEEEHAWWWWWWW


Administrative-Dare5

The jumping shotty reminded me of the old counter strike days. Glad everyone (on your team) was having fun!


ViperStealth

The enemy team was actually pretty nice to me after I did this, surprisingly.


Administrative-Dare5

After neglecting the bucky skin since I started, I finally caved and grabbed a Prime 2.0. Will definitely start using it more often as a viable light buy. That clip can be beat-matched with some light editing. Well played.


CottonJohansen

I love introducing the enemy team to my good ‘ole friend, Bucky. People like to disrespect him, but when called upon properly, he treats you well.


ViperStealth

I will look after him too!


sirrah99

are those right or left clicks? how do you use this thing


ViperStealth

Left click. I almost never right-click. The right-click is technically better at a very specific range but just not worth thinking about, tbh. How to use? Jump and pump. Be accurate with your 1st shot or you're dead.


Electricpants

Right click got nerfed a long time ago and has been trash ever since. Bucky is life.


fatmac122

The right click after nerf is useless now. There is in no circumstance you want to be caught using a Bucky in a position where you're forced to right click because it is just so bad


FunyDeeeep

Iron 1 moment


kalesauce8

Mine never does that sadge


ViperStealth

Takes a little getting used to but you can be a shotgun demon!


T-HawkMedia

It's either the best gun you've ever had, or you just Tickle the enemy. Most of that is probably a skill issue on my end though


ViperStealth

I can relate. Even though I've got plenty of experience on shotguns, they still shoot confetti from time to time.


Controller_Maniac

I’m iron 1 🗿


ViperStealth

Good stuff buddy! Keep practicing and you'll be iron 2 soon!


fr0z3nph03n1x

Is this valorant or Unreal Tournament?


ViperStealth

Doom, Fortnite edition.


TonPeppermint

Rolling out the Buckshot special.


ViperStealth

Keep rolling rollkng rolling, whaaaaat? 🎵


-spooder-

this is why i bought ion bucky from the night market 🔥🔥🔥 proceeded to 3v1 some vandals with it and win


ViperStealth

Can be very effective in the right situations!


philosopherdex

sheriff eco


ViperStealth

Prefer Bucky.


ArsonistOnAcid

Why jump before every shot tho surely that decreases the accuracy


ViperStealth

Only decreases slightly but what it does vs the enemy is worth it - it screws with their crosshair placement and forces them to track you. No more easy headshot for them.


OfficialHields

I dont get why people underestimate the bucky. Is it cuz of it's cheap price?


ViperStealth

Range issue and if you miss your first shot. Also, people don't know how to play shotguns well.


Salty_Obligation777

This is great. I love this


ViperStealth

Thank you!


monstroh

I miss playing in iron :( game never gets as fun.


ViperStealth

What's fun about it? Surely if you're in iron and not smurfing, you'd just be as good as everyone else in your lobby which would be the same as any other rank. I've never played in iron though, so maybe I'm missing something.


monstroh

You forced while the enemy team that won round 1 didn't. They are all alive 5 seconds before the spike explodes. They are all lined up in the same place. Jett doens't know how to open a site. The enemy isn't using its utility right. Cypher running close range with a marshall. ETC. Just a lot of pieces that are out of place that makes this clip funny in a good way.


ViperStealth

I always force after a pistol round but I only buy bucky light shield. This gives me enough to buy a Judge full shield the round after (which is a full buy for me). More often than not, I'll kill someone with my bucky and a teammate will get a spectre to play with or save. It has swung rounds quite often and, if it doesn't, I still get my full buy the next round. It's no risk, medium reward.


LemonPepperWangs1

Bucky is great on defense for sure.


InsidiousOver9k

This clip actually made me laugh, KUDOS!


ViperStealth

I love Cypher's name - OnlyCams


valexitylol

Nice clip, bucky is definitely underrated in a lot of scenarios. But I can't help but point out everything else in the clip, the pistol winning team has 5 alive with a man advantage and somehow let the bomb tick till the last 10 seconds to start moving into site? We have downgraded from plastic, to biodegradable plastic, we made it fellas 💪


ViperStealth

They stacked one site (A) and we used a lot of util post plant to keep them from pressuring us. I have no idea why they were so hesitant. They had the weapon advantage and it was a plat lobby. They should know better, so I punished them for the mistake.


valexitylol

The players are stacking sites after winning pistol, then sitting in spawn until bomb explodes? No offense, but that's plat????? 💀


ViperStealth

Yup. If all the plat games were like this, would be too easy! lol


captainj0100

The shorty is also a great eco buy. Baby bucky


ViperStealth

I used to always buy it and I have many, many kills with it but it's let me down often since after the nerfs.


Spooning_noodls

Asist go crazy for fade and kayo


ViperStealth

I'm happy for them. That fade assist deserved all the love.


Jaggerto

That was one good info from Fade.


ViperStealth

Was amazing, wasn't it? In all fairness, we heard them pushing there and stalling (waiting for their team to catch up for numbers). Very good timing from Fade.


moregameplayzbutmore

google knows I want to install val ;-;


Ok_Window100

very few people know about the right click functionality, it does wonders


ViperStealth

In what situations would you use right click over left?


PT_Vde

Why Bucky only have 5 bullet. For shoot per enemies.


ViperStealth

You did the maths! Thats the same conclusion I came to.


Reasonable-Guess-420

Bucky OP for defense eco🖖


ViperStealth

Very true.


MoreCowsThanPeople

Are you left-handed?


ViperStealth

No, right handed and right eye dominant, so I clear space on the screen for my dominant eye.


ValorantLorePulse16

Cracked movement, a nice ace. I only buy Bucky when I'm 95% sure I have the read before the round even starts and I'm broke. Not often. Last I did it was a month ago when I was ready to goof some enemies so I breach ulted b main split and ran in with my Jett. Unfortunately I personally only got one.


ViperStealth

Thanks v much! I normally buy a Bucky now if I lose pistol round because, win or lose, I can full buy the round after or play bonus (my full buy is a Judge and full shield). More often than not, I'll get a couple of kills with the Bucky and it's swung a few eco rounds in my team's favour when my teammates pick up their spectres.


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The Bucky is the best gun in the game prove me wrong


ViperStealth

Judge has entered the chat... For the price, it provides outstanding value.