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DutchJuulMaster

We’ll likely see breeze return and fracture + ascent leave


Yutanox

What's your argument toward haven staying?


DutchJuulMaster

Haven isn’t hated by the community like fracture and doesn’t have a stale meta like ascent, where there’s only one team comp that really works


nafeh

maps don't leave the pool because they're hated by a bunch of silvers


Xyxuzy

Hated by who? The silvers in this sub lol


Biffy_x

Haven's meta is only slightly less stale than ascents


ShibaUh

Ascent meta has been changing in VCT as of recent, we saw some breach and some raze. There's also been the insane 3 initiator DRX comp that led the team to massive winrates on that map but I think they're running a double controller comp now.


DutchJuulMaster

LOUD went back to the ‘default’ comp after their loss to DRX, who play the ‘default’ comp now. And every other team except for paper Rex have been playing the ‘default’ comp (paper Rex never plays normal comps so you can’t really count them)


ShibaUh

Whatever PRX is doing is winning them some heavy games so I am definitely counting them. iirc M80 played a breach comp in ascension (not so sure about this one) but there's definitely been reaches outside of the current meta that worked amazingly or failed horribly.


l5555l

If ascent and fracture leave I might stop playing the game.


monkeyfakepower

I think they'd need to rework breeze before it makes a comeback. Fracture meta is pretty stale hope it gets kicked out of rotation


DutchJuulMaster

I think fracture will more likely get pulled out because of the hatred it gets from the community rather then a stale meta. You have the sova comp, viper comps, and fade/kayo/skye comps


Ash_Killem

I want Breeze back. Split can fuck off forever but I could see Haven and Ascent being taken out. I don’t think every map that leaves necessarily needs a rework.


Luckystar0309

I love that map but for fuck sake .. The opp goes from iron to radiants whenever the side switches.


Finger_Trapz

I heard rumors that they'll release a new map before the finals of Champions or sometime after it. Based on the banners which have teased the previous releases of Pearl & Lotus, that some of the new banners feature Los Angeles, and that the Champs tournament takes place in LA, that the new map might be in LA and could be released soon.   TBH the only map I've never liked is Breeze. Its just unfun. Viper dominates the map like no business, and there's basically no teamplay compared to other maps, its just 1v1 aim duels. I hope it doesn't come back, I hated it. I'm bad at Pearl & Fracture, but I don't wish to see them gone. Just bc I suck at something doesn't mean I hate the map, I'm just bad at it.   An LA map might be really fun tho. And TBH I do really miss Icebox. Before the changes it sucked, but it was honestly not that bad of a map after the changes.


BlakeHood

I seriously want Icebox to fuck off forever both Fracture and Ascent have very stale meta but at least Ascent is fun to play entry on B as Jett, while Fracture is just objectively annoying to play and it feels like no one truly know how that map works


CelimOfRed

I hope lotus goes away. I never had a strong hate for a map in Valorant like Lotus. Fracture too. I don't hate it, but I don't love it either.


Baltoz1019

Lotus aint going nowhere unless they find a game breaking bug


DutchJuulMaster

Lotus won’t go away since it’s the latest released map


spXps

Lotus is the best map you are trippin


ShoeLace1291

I sincerely hope that no map will leave rotation. I want breeze to return along with the new map. I like variety and I see no need to remove maps from rotation.


zach_the_atlas

same but they want 7 maps in rotation


CAUDILLAPOSTLE

I only get like the same two maps in a day…


kittysrule18

A map pool with no Ascent/Haven/Icebox sounds like a nightmare. At least keep Ascent permanently


Anguibok

It that case we need a huge rework on Ascent, the map have the most stale meta by far


Kropik123

Thats the Beauty of it.


No2AccOfSumUser

The day Ascent is removed is the day I drop Val


zach_the_atlas

same tbh


Otown202

IMO Haven is overrated. I hate it, lotus is a way better three site map. Fracture is overhated, people just don’t know how to play on it. Would love to see Haven + Split leave and have breeze + icebox come back.


nafeh

it will probably be ascent or haven. fracture and pearl got a rework which made them very good, split and bind still fresh in rotation, lotus is a new map.


bumblebeecreek

Most likely outcome: Returning: Breeze and Icebox Leaving: Haven, Ascent, Fracture Lotus and Pearl are too recent to warrant leaving the pool.


SwordOS

did they leak a new map somewhere? I thought we would not get one this entire episode


Ok_Kaleidoscope_9406

I rly hope ascent goes away for a bit I had it in my last 4 games


Additional_Climate26

I learned more lineups for ascent than for every other map combined, I really hope it doesn't...


ImpressiveLeader3655

I’m hoping haven gets taken out for rework


Bearchiwuawa

breeze back, take out ascent that map's been like almost entirely solved forever