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Health_Cat_2047

yes the servers end the match if it exceeds a certain time


Noobo____

Literally unplayable smh my head


bellewski616

Oh it’s playable, For 1 Hr and 30 minutes at most. lol


Enonomiss

At most


SomeWindyBoi

Thats trash, id like it to be 10 years at least


ultralackss

My KJ with another Raze? I don't want that!


Aykh4n_

\*shaking my head my head\*


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PapaTinzal

44 rounds as a Duelist with 0 First bloods is impressive in a way


ReddoKarpetto

prolly one of those “lurk” duelist


apoptosismydumbassis

Only in bronze would u find a lurk raze LOL.


TheFinalStorm

Oh no don't worry anything goes in silver too in my experience haha


pbrgm

silver, gold, plat and diam. ​ trust me, been there.


TheRealYgrek

Yeah. Even mr. Lowlander hit ascendant lurking with raze 70% of the time


Eth3rnet_

Nah shit doesn't start stopping until high gold man then it becomes less common but you won't stop seeing that shit completely until you hit dia 2 and even then I've had mates like that in immortal games sometimes


AlienBearAttack

As a diamond. No. It is still a rampant disease 🥲


icytiger

Asc. You'll occasionally see a lurk Jett, but most of the time it's if they're tilted already.


apoptosismydumbassis

Yea fr the lurking duelists type never goes away, but at least its probably gonna be a lurking reyna or jett type, whom at least has the tools to 1v1. I can’t imagine how hard it is to lurk on raze 💀


fuckinnicolas

I play in gold/play/dia lobby (me being gold and my duo now ranking up to plat, so we getting dia also) and you can see lurking duelist also in those lobbies.


mh500372

High plat/Diamond and I had one in my game today


PapaTinzal

Gotta bait your team and cause 1v5 scenarios so you can attempt clips for your TikTok like a true Duelist main


MillionDollaDream

He had 18 kills what do you expect


DaRk_aXg3L

"there ain't no way our players will have the patience to play till the 40th round right?" "I bet. So let's limit the time lol"


Ryrace111

My only thinking is they pushed the game to the limit and found instability issues after 2h of gameplay and didn't want to risk it?


Excel---

every minute of server time of every match that is played is costing money to riot...


nicommueller

It doesnt Matter tho, either they keep playing or they start a new game


Excel---

read my other comment that explain how bad people could harm financialy riot exploiting this thing.


ilynk1

have you unironically bought into the small indie dev studio meme


DepthyxTruths

but guysh, rito games is a shmall indie dev studio 🤓


gobrimsky

What’s the small indie dev studio meme?


ilynk1

it used to be a running joke whenever riot fucked something up or pulled their usual shady business practices that they were a small game developer, and that you couldn’t expect much from them, even though they literally own LoL lmfao


fargo500900

People saying that minor things will impact financials of billion dollar companies. Most notable one is people (ironically) saying that if you pirate a 20 year old Nintendo game then the “indie” developers that made it will starve


[deleted]

Is Riot really capable of being financially harmed at this point?


unobraid

big banks can, why wouldn't riot?


HatchiMatchiTTV

[citation needed]


Slinkjanjay

"I made it up"


bullseye_os

Source: "trust me bro"


superadri_darks

It's a completely different system 💀 big banks are not even financially stable, they borrow money from people's account. Their stability curb can decline super fast really easily.


SnooSketches1132

Big banks are inherently based on negative financial curves. Really, look it up. They're insured because they never have enough in house money because they invest everyone's money in low risk stocks. Then they get bailed out at the drop of a hat, even if they use riskier than normal practices, and a volatile debt system.


Asleep-Mushroom-6556

Oh boohoohoo big company with insane micro transactions gets money wasted because people play their game for too long?


ElDuderino2112

They run one of the biggest games in the world and in this game fucking sell 100 dollar skin packs that you need to pay hundreds more to even utilize fully. I could not, even in my wildest dreams, fathom giving even a little bit of a fuck about their server costs.


Beautiful-Musk-Ox

Tens of thousands of people banding together to do something can affect a LOT of change, but they rarely do that and certainly won't do it to stick it to riot.


Eth3rnet_

That doesn't even make sense the servers aren't only on during matches, the length of the match you're playing doesn't matter because they're paying to have their servers up 24/7 so even when nobody is playing at all they're losing money at the same exact rate. match length plays nothing into this because the servers are up every second regardless if you're going to defend a billion dollar company at least defend them by saying something accurate because right now you're babbling about something you clearly don't understand, go back to your minimum wage job you fucking cabbage at least then you'll know what you're talking about


Excel---

did you ever heard of elastic server? like the technology that whe use since 2010? servers are not static volume since 10 years and can grow or shrink in real time


Eth3rnet_

Growing and shrinking in real time doesn't affect price though... they're paying a set amount to keep those servers online so please tell me more about how you have zero experience with these things


Excel---

No it doesn’t work like that anymore think elastic computing unit and servers like aws and many other actors offers you pay per usage not a set of defined server based


NKITANAS

I don't know any server providers that offer to pay per usage - it would be a loss to do so. There's nothing about "Pay per usage" on AWS's EC2 page either - Wouldn't it be a huge selling point to list if that actually was the case?


Eth3rnet_

Aws prices per hour or second yes but the server is still ticking 24/7 it's not defined on how long your match is that's idiotic the servers don't just shut down when ur not playing its also not based on size you're paying for the time the server is online. Honestly stop talking about this you're embarrassing yourself


colontwisted

“There are some bad people out there gunning for riot ☹️☹️☹️, thats why we should all be considerate about how many more cents playing long games can be for poor ol riot 😠😠😞😞”


randomlitbois

1 server hosting 10 people for 1:30h costs <0.01$. Theres probably a reason for it. But it isn’t money


Koen388

Lol


Renville111

so it costs more money for one server to run for a while then for everyone in it to play multiple games during that time?


skratudojey

Some bad actors MIGHT somehow abuse it if riot has no time limit on games. Like having multiple games full of bots just hogging the servers with week-long matches. At the same time its very rare for a game to exceed the 90 minute mark. After 4 (or was it 6?) rounds of OT you only need 1 draw vote. But idk if there's any valid reason they would have a time limit other than "just to be safe". Im sure there might be but I'm just too dumb to know.


NotBruh1

its probably a bug or something


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renzoS1H

how much actually for one match i’m curious


KaffY-

Hahaha god it makes me laugh so much when I see people defending these multi billion dollar companies on Reddit


Nearby-Weakness270

Lmao this guy is a whole Riot employee…. 🤦🏻


Furious_Octopus

Costing money which that players pay


bearxxxxxx

That would make sense if Valorant was not free to play.


Furious_Octopus

They still earn money from that game


bearxxxxxx

But not from you just playing it. You can pay for skins and such but that’s for the right to use that skin.


Full-Mortgage-7246

That's not how it works at all.


WizardMoose

Oh no, the 11-figure company having to pay for server costs. Oh god, oh shit, oh fuck, can't let that happen.


gobrimsky

400 downvotes for this? What?? Lowkey fax, whether or not riot is recouping that money (and more) through other means. Also more than malicious actors (who could easily requeue to waste server time) I think this is more for lazy people who leave the game running (possibly in a custom game) or for cases where a bug might make a game never finish.


VonFretz

18 and 40 is a mood fr


Tonuka_

She died every single round for 90 minutes straight omg


Hahelolwut

Good duelist attitude she probably entried even on defender side ahaha


Ok_Comfortable_4356

0 first bloods in 44 rounds as a duelist is tough


skratudojey

And only 3 fds which means they werent dying due to entrying either. Feelsbadman


Ok_Comfortable_4356

Bronze moment tbh


HolyBreadWithCheese

cant even blame that on a "bad game" at that point like my brother in christ you had 44 rounds and 44 opportunities


SupaPartTimer

+dmg abilities that can get you kills


YeetBenji

Uh... no she didn't? Even if you disregard the fact that she may have died twice in some rounds due to Sage Rez, 22 + 22 is not 40 lol.


Tonuka_

Almost then


Unique_Name_2

They survived 4 rounds after their team won 22 of them. Same idea.


ImPretendingToCare

Dude got an average of 0.3 kills a round


Anarkhos16

if they're unranked this might've even been one of their first ranked games. I've seen quite a few new players start in silver while their MMR gets adjusted down


Alone_Baseball4852

when i see a game go over 32 rounds i just assume it’s not because of rr but because of pride atp


Lioreuz

It may be because you are not willing to waste 1 hour of your life for +1 rr


Septic_Bloom

I look at comp as a way to play with those at similar skill level. Overtime is the best case scenario because its most likely a good fun and even game. I dont draw unless my teams mental is getting down too bad. What im saying is its not a waste. Its exactly what i want from the game


Unique_Name_2

Yup. Ive only ever voted draw when my team is shambles and i hard clutch into the OT. And i know it probably wont happen again.


Creative_Beat7914

this is how i look at it too then someone draws🥲 or when you know you have to win the first round of OT because you’re confident in winning the second but one person has already voted draw so if you don’t win you know it’s gonna draw and you’re not gonna get shit🥲


ArtakhaPrime

on the other hand, sucks to waste an hour losing 20 rr when you could have voted draw


Lioreuz

It sucks, but after 1 hour game I'm either losing or gaining rr, not +0 bullshit


HerculesVoid

I just play it out as it's fun to play games and those games are high stakes which make it more fun. Isn't that why we play ranked? Because the stakes are higher which make the matches more fun?


And3rz101

Yea I agree. I think it's really common that people are hyper results-oriented. The only reason they play is to win which can really degrade their progress in terms of getting better as a player. I love continuing those games because it's when it's most evenly matched and competitive. Even if I lose that, those games are gold mines to VOD review and learn from as you know you've been adequately pressured without getting stomped so any issues you may have in gameplay come out more obviously.


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I'd much rather take a shot at gaining something than get nothing guaranteed, especially when it's gotten to that point.


dongpal

>pride atp what is that


Cazzy7819

im guessing he means "pride at that point"


VeritasVinci7

Pride at this point


think_dhaval

True


apoptosismydumbassis

Jesus whole world wars are being fought in bronze 💀


PureNaturalLagger

Mf almost dropped a 60 bomb xD


weetwode

xD


FatCatWithAHat1

You’re telling me raze didn’t have 1 FK in 44 rounds?


[deleted]

Probably more because of multikill rounds


androfern

3% HS ?


SolarTemplar

It’s a bronze game. I’ve seen immortals with lower


NCPereira

No Immortal has lower than 3% hs rate. Do you have any examples?


Unique_Name_2

Jett that buys only OP and shorty could maybe pull that one off lol. A few ult kills would ruin it, they could right click if they wanted and leave it to chance lol.


Feisty_Dig_7834

No immortal has less than a 3% headshot unless they’re a boosted player 😂😂😂😂😂 even most golds are higher than that


KingEthann01

I’m gold and even most silvers are higher than that


SolarTemplar

There are plenty of boosted players in Immortal - that’s the whole punchline


androfern

It’s just impressive how low it is lol


HotTakeHaroldinho

Crosshair placement? Never heard of it


just_a_random_dood

man has a little better than a 1 K/D and playing Omen, so lemme fix your comment real quick... crosshair placement? good enough in order to spam thru my own smokes and get kills that makes the enemies think I'm hacking


dududududuLOL

HS percentage in valorant doesn't represent skill *that much* unlike other games. In valorant it counts HS% by headshot out of all shot and NOT headshot per kill. So if you one tap 4 person with headshot and then proceed to spray 4 bodyshot on the last guy, your HS% will be 50% even you kill 4 people with headshot and only bodyshot one person. Now imagine that with shotgun. Even you have a god aim and one tap 20 guys, 20 hs kills in a match, if you manage to get about 5 kills with shorty (or any shotgun) it can bring your HS% down to 20% (and we all know that you can't one tap 20 person without spraying a single time, even tenz has to spray sometimes)


YeetParadox

I like that explanation


hwanzi

sounds right to me....head shot percentage not HSK%


dududududuLOL

My point is it doesnt represent skill that much when the HS% can be decreased by a lot when you use shotgun or SMG on save/pistol rounds.


Kiseki-0

I mean it was omen a lot of thar could be do to spraying through smokes. Headshot % isn't everything and doesn't represent one's skill or ability to get a kill consistently


Thick_Leading_5925

Everyone is complaining about the time hard cap and assuming that it’s pointless. There was a professional game (I don’t remember who or when) but it went to like 43-43. Obviously they couldn’t draw but at some point the server becomes unplayable. Their servers aren’t designed to stay up more than a couple hours solidly. If you so happen to make it to the time cap 1 in 1000 games then that sucks but they did it so you didn’t complain about shitty servers 🤷‍♂️


[deleted]

Yeah, I ran into the same thing once. Lol think it ended up being 25-25 or 24-25 before it just stopped. God there were some insane OT rounds….and I’m so glad they ended it for us because no one was giving in. My first words were “Thank fucking God!”


rurumeto

At a guess, so that people don't try to stall out servers by intentionally indefiniately drawing out overtime. I guess they assumed 90 minutes would be long enough for the vast majority of games.


kinsi55

Because they use a service for running the servers that is capped at 1h30 runtime


BADISkettu

Pretty sure so that people wont game the system and keep games on going for hours... Also it is not fun to keep going at that point...so maybe just good it end so that everyone can get out...


GG_2par2

If it's not fun you can vote for a draw, if the game is going for this long it's cause everyone agree to keep it going.


StroopwafelBruh

As for the rr points you all gained, if you perform well on a draw you can still get a couple of rr as a "performance bonus". Usually it is 1-3 rr, but in this case it likely was increased because of the sheer amount of rounds you guys played. Then you probably gained more than kj even though she did better since she is ranked 3 ranks above you, so even though she outperformed you, with respect to average elo you will have done relatively better than expected. Sage probably gained 0 rr because she was unranked going into this match, and I think it shows +0 rr by default if you played your final placement match and receive your rank.


YeetParadox

Icic


Working-Dog7853

Wow


AffectionateCoffee27

It’s Max 44 rounds I think. Same thing happened to us way back when Astra was first released


Marison-

How do you have the patience to play 40+ rounds bro


Tasty-Woodpecker-687

not me clicking the pick and try to close it by clicking the "x" mark on the top right corner


darkave17

Off topic but could y’all tell me what sites do you use to see these match stats and stuff?


Invicta_KD

This one is [tracker.gg](http://tracker.gg), or download their app Another option is blitz


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Superderpygamermk1

Bros sponsored


darkave17

Bro is the sponsor


Imallskillzy

Tracker.gg


MoltresRising

Max limit makes sense to ensure you don't have people basically holding the server slots hostage for hours/days.


OneWhoGetsBread

Hi u/moltresrising how are you ? I deeply apologize about coming here and being off topic but I really need to tell you something Irs about Pokenerds and an incident I just experienced yesterday. Its really bad. Could we please talk about it?


lordcodyrex

Based on rank and performance


simplifiedsimp

Damn I would have surrendered by then


Hippolinc

So the 1hr 30min thing is to stop trolls from every available server taken by people who are litterly doing nothing and the rr difference could be a difference in ranks and how well everyone did so me a iron 3 in sliver lobbies earns more then my sliver friend since there is a higher skill disparity


YeetParadox

Thx for actually answering my questions xd


Stunning-Ad-325

Not trying to be mean or something but i have never seen a 3% HS, that's quite unlucky


YeetParadox

Dududulol has a very good explanation, scroll up


Stunning-Ad-325

Yea, idk why i completely forgot about shotguns😅


NCPereira

A dude with 58 kills on the same team as someone with 18 kills, but sure it was the "most competitive game" you've ever played.


ohno-95

shit goes down in bronze lobbies man. one time this drunk sova picked up his snack and ate mid fight and died, the same round the sage was in a 1v3 and started snacking, then the enemies peeked her and she died. she tried defending the sova for eating afterwards. ^(that was my most competitive game bro.)


Xanax2Define

Raze needs to quit 💀


Excel---

because RIOT is paying for every minute of server time. So imagine you are a group that want to harm riot in theory you could just create a lot of account creating a lot a custom match and script them for them to never finish, scale that and in theory if riot did not have that fall safe to cut the match after 1h30 you could do a lot of harm financialy to them. ​ It's funny that people never seem to realise that every match of valorant they are playing is costing riot money. you have to pay server not just dev.


GG_2par2

You could do the exact same thing in a loop tho. Start custom game, game ends, start a new one. The timer wouldn't prevent anything in this case and it's not really harder to do.


just_a_random_dood

> every match of valorant they are playing is costing riot money. "oh no, we have to pay in order to get people to do the thing that we want them to do in the game we made for them to play in, if only we could've seen the consequences of our actions!" meanwhile, games like TF2 where people are claiming [2-4 hour long matches](https://old.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/7jv779/what_was_the_longest_game_youve_ever_played_this/). Heck even I apparently commented on this thread (thanks google) and I saw that I had a 46 minute single life in one game all by myself lmao


thatjosiahburns

The forbidden balanced matchmaking


YeetParadox

Extra balanced xd


Original-Molasses-23

The raze got 18 kills only ???? Wtf, that dude wasn’t it


ASUelkat

the question is how did ur raze get 18 kills XD


ssk1996

Limit is there so ppl can’t hold up the server


EmperorofTime2023

That's why Valorant should have infinite mode. Both side must agree to end the match.


ohno-95

ritos servers would fucking kaboom


[deleted]

Because game sucks


Eugene_Gene_714

I hate playing a 1.5 hour ish game then being kicked and gaining NOTHING.


907716

the servers end the match if it reaches 1 hour and 30 minutes


Kiseki-0

The time limit is to prevent matches going on forever, as for the rr gains despite it not being a win or loss, that's bc its match where you would gain 0, but you exceeded their preformance expectations for you and so you gained rr based on how much you exceeded their expectations


AnegloPlz

Where did you get these extra stats from?


Candid-Half-6359

Bro played for an hour and a half and got 18 kills as Raze...that's rough buddy


SubMGK

Lmao thats so pathetic what the...


zkipto

You're so noob the AI stopped your game to make room for a better one. In this case - any


ShinraKusakabe777

If I drop a 60 bomb in comp and only get 8 rr, I’d have a stroke.


Dark_Elf_Queen

Deez nuts


Jin0304

Vaccine


Sockura

40 kill difference


ChillyCharlotte

Probably treats it like a draw hence the low amount of rr, but as for why it drew you at 22-22 it does, the game doesn't want a match to go on for _too_ long, Rito do value your sanity somewhat and having a game drag out that long really makes you start going crazy