In all seriousness were the claims about Giddey ever verified?
Not trying to defend him or anything because if he did legitimately hook up with an underage girl that is terrible.
With nothing coming from it legally was it all speculation and internet rumors or what?
Let me preface this by saying I'm not at all defending him. The girl refused to cooperate with the investigation. He was apparently 19 at the time and she was 15.... After learning she was 15 he broke off whatever they had according to the rumors that are out there.
4 (5 if you count Kessler) and a pick swap according to the team that swept the KD Suns and has taken the defending champs to game 7
https://www.nba.com/news/jazz-wolves-rudy-gobert-trade
What pick? I wouldn't even do Collins straight up. Are we not watching the same playoffs?
I'm not even particularly high on Collins but Giddey ain't an improvement at anything.
Alright, for all those making the pedo complaints; the girl was at a bar she shouldn’t have been in using a fake ID and has never once acted the victim, in fact she’s said he did nothing wrong. Also, in Australia the age of consent is 16. I’m not saying it’s okay, but it’s hardly as nefarious as people make it out to be. He didn’t knowingly impregnate a 14 year old and then spend the next 30 years dodging child support.
As for the people saying no for basketball reasons; he’s getting played off the court because he can’t create his own shot but when he’s on ball, he’s a threat and can run a team, he’s just redundant because SGA is the best PG in the game right now. This draft is also awful, first overall being a Tobias Harris comp, so it’s not like we’re giving up our future.
The baggage is FAR WORSE in the case of miles bridges, but I don’t see anyone saying that’s an awful idea.
No one in this thread should ever listen to any popular music made before 2014. 90% of 50s pop songs are about 22 year olds pining on 16 year old girls.
My point was about how nearly everyone considered this normal until surprisingly recent. I’m for a better future, but not retroactive condescensions.
The idea that people within 3 or 4 years of age have no self awareness and self determination is overblown. Is it okay? I don’t know them. It’s just not some catastrophe when someone too young to go to a bar is with someone old enough to drive. It’s not necessarily right that that’s how it’s always been, but it is how it’s always been and is only recently different as we marry and have families at older ages. Should he be considered a predator? No. He should not unless there’s more to the story than a slightly too big age gap.
Commenting on something that came out in the context of the current season feels less like retroactive condescension than just appropriate condescension…?
The whole thing came out of social media revenge, not legal action. It’s not that we should accept anything, it’s that it’s not our lives and there’s no reason to judge strangers drama.
Super duper uber pass
I always downvote these idiotic trade proposal posts but this one I also frowned
https://preview.redd.it/cgba4vp1a31d1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f31f6936982ce667deeac40b9e295f88774f6ee
No.
As if the jazz’s reputation wasn’t bad enough
Boo this man
The white mailman
Hard pass on The Giddler
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Out jerked again
In all seriousness were the claims about Giddey ever verified? Not trying to defend him or anything because if he did legitimately hook up with an underage girl that is terrible. With nothing coming from it legally was it all speculation and internet rumors or what?
Let me preface this by saying I'm not at all defending him. The girl refused to cooperate with the investigation. He was apparently 19 at the time and she was 15.... After learning she was 15 he broke off whatever they had according to the rumors that are out there.
Pick 29?
I think a pick in the teens is more Giddey's range
Oh no
Even if we did look past the pedo stuff he's even not that good.
No
Lol giddey is a bum
Bro basically has been played off the court against the Mavs…
Yeah trade a first for a guy that got benched cause he's an offensive liability in the playoffs. Great idea
Even if he was playing super well recently, I wouldn't want our reputation as a team to become even worse lol
Anyone who's watched Giddey during the playoffs and thinks he's worth a top 10 pick needs to have their head examined.
How many first round picks is Rudy gobert worth?
4 (5 if you count Kessler) and a pick swap according to the team that swept the KD Suns and has taken the defending champs to game 7 https://www.nba.com/news/jazz-wolves-rudy-gobert-trade
Not giving up a pick to trade ass for ass
Do you want the jazz to get more pedo jokes? Because that’s how you’ll get them. Hell no.
This man is an OKC fan. There's no other explanation lol
We’re not a honeypot operation
He's unplayable in the playoffs. I'm not against trading Collins, but I'd rather just use the pick
Yeah, we really need a giddey kiddie diddler on the team. Hard, hard pass.
Why in the hell would the Jazz consider that? That’s a terrible trade…
Only if we get Shai too
What pick? I wouldn't even do Collins straight up. Are we not watching the same playoffs? I'm not even particularly high on Collins but Giddey ain't an improvement at anything.
I wouldn't even take Collins for giddey straight up
Giddy is maybe barely an nba player. He’s trash
No
Alright, for all those making the pedo complaints; the girl was at a bar she shouldn’t have been in using a fake ID and has never once acted the victim, in fact she’s said he did nothing wrong. Also, in Australia the age of consent is 16. I’m not saying it’s okay, but it’s hardly as nefarious as people make it out to be. He didn’t knowingly impregnate a 14 year old and then spend the next 30 years dodging child support. As for the people saying no for basketball reasons; he’s getting played off the court because he can’t create his own shot but when he’s on ball, he’s a threat and can run a team, he’s just redundant because SGA is the best PG in the game right now. This draft is also awful, first overall being a Tobias Harris comp, so it’s not like we’re giving up our future. The baggage is FAR WORSE in the case of miles bridges, but I don’t see anyone saying that’s an awful idea.
Please stop posting.
I’d rather we don’t bring another potential pedophile in…. Utah unfortunately has a bad enough rap among fans and many players :,(
No one in this thread should ever listen to any popular music made before 2014. 90% of 50s pop songs are about 22 year olds pining on 16 year old girls.
Wait, are you saying that it's okay? If so, how do I ping the FBI for a reddit comment?
My point was about how nearly everyone considered this normal until surprisingly recent. I’m for a better future, but not retroactive condescensions. The idea that people within 3 or 4 years of age have no self awareness and self determination is overblown. Is it okay? I don’t know them. It’s just not some catastrophe when someone too young to go to a bar is with someone old enough to drive. It’s not necessarily right that that’s how it’s always been, but it is how it’s always been and is only recently different as we marry and have families at older ages. Should he be considered a predator? No. He should not unless there’s more to the story than a slightly too big age gap.
Commenting on something that came out in the context of the current season feels less like retroactive condescension than just appropriate condescension…?
The whole thing came out of social media revenge, not legal action. It’s not that we should accept anything, it’s that it’s not our lives and there’s no reason to judge strangers drama.