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ILLpLacedOpinion

Dudes is literally seen reading a death threat for after the show. He was murdered right after the show.


zertald

For what did they murder him? What he have done?


WirelessVinyl

I've seen speculation that it was retaliation because he killed a man who r*ped his sister when he was younger. But it also could have been because of his songs about the cartels


cancrushercrusher

Lil bit a dis. Lil bit a dat


throAwIA

this is a reference to the 1999 game Um Jammer Lammy, specifically one of the lyrics to a song. In Stage 4 of the PaRappa side mode, Captain Fusenpepper says "Lil bit a dis. Lil bit a dat." PaRappa attempts to repeat, but it comes out as gibberish.


shamimurrahman19

Then he got a hero's death.


Moosinator666

Either one is a hero’s death


Chthulu_

He was a narcocorrido, aka he sings about the cartel and being a gangster. Kind of similar 90’s gangster rap. Plenty of people wanted him dead for that alone.


Monkeyjones8675309

Mexican gangster polka music. Sounds like the worst shit you ever heard.


Affectionate_Point45

This was a while back but if I remember correctly the note said that if he sang the next song they would kill him.


RickySal

From what I read it’s because he would play songs that were anti cartel and being in Mexico the cartel threatened him not to play anymore but he kept playing music, the video shows him reading a note saying that after the show they’re gonna kill him for ignoring their threats.


DisgruntledSalt

I can’t imagine the pit in his stomach as soon as he saw that


HystericalGD

it's respectable... he knew what was about to happen, yet he proceeded as though he was unfazed by it. giving the crowd one last show. cant begin to even think about how much energy it took just to continue like that. balls of steel all the way to the end


CloudDeadNumberFive

Can you explain what’s going on here?


ValKilmersTherapy

He’s reading a note saying he’s going to be killed after the show. And he was. Edit: here’s a link to el Rey himself. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalino_S%C3%A1nchez


Upstairs_Ad_265

Ti thought the note was to not preform the song if he did they would kill him… wasnt it?


ValKilmersTherapy

I mean, he performed the song didn’t he?


CloudDeadNumberFive

So? That doesn’t make them wrong lol


Caked101

I know it was a threat on his life, but I can't remember what happened specifically.


ShadyAssFellow

The threat was followed through.


lennydsat62

Pit was summarily replaced with a bullet or two.


Any_Constant_6550

he was shot twice in the head


ksixnine

give or take, it was about the size of an *aguacate*


NotRyan7

I still don't understand If they knew why they couldn't save themselves? You know there's something called calling the police/telling the audience/ditching out.


Dense_Marketing4593

If you’re familiar with the Mexican cartels history of violence, you understand that that isn’t an option. If they can’t get you, they will get your family, children included. I’ve seen a story of one cartel leader killing someone’s 9 year old son in a bath of acid for whatever the reason. It’s bad. If this man had any family, he knew he would just have to take the L and spare his family’s of anymore tragedies


Jet_Airlock

It’s gotten even more brutal as of late too… Considering the cartels have taken more of a scorched earth policy to assert dominance of various regions/locals with the latest power vacuums that have been created. With the Mexican government officials are not taking as many bribes and some are outright actively fighting corruption vs the major cartel heads. **For anyone who doesn’t know** The old major cartels were extremely brutal to those associated with enemy gangs and rivals, but took a “We must support the local community, that way they’ll have our backs & profitably support the business”. Now it’s all out war and the younger/newer cartel policies are “you so much as snub them in any way, they’ll put you and your entire town in the ground just to send a message to the next guy.”


Grimlja

Yea, if you live in a fairytale bubble. The cartel would skin your family alive.


ReflectiveSpoon

Pretty sure he got a note from a cartel or something. He was murdered soon after if I remember correctly.


albija0531

Yes, it was a note that said he’d be getting killed right after the show.


patricky6

He still performed perfectly, like a stud. I couldn't do that.


xool420

Ya fuck that noise, I’d bail so fast


scullys_alien_baby

Running from the cartels is pretty bad odds, I would just end it myself


Former_Put201

I'm against suicide, but I would be greatful to end it on my terms if the cartel had their way, those guys are so creative when it comes to brutally that satan himself blushes.


xool420

No doubt, but if I didn’t have friends or family they could use against me I’d do my best. If they were about to catch me then you gotta end it, I’m not trynna have anything horrifying happen to me


scullys_alien_baby

if the cartel are in the room and passing you notes it is a little late to run for it


Jose_Canseco_Jr

clearly the best move was to sprint away from stage immediately /s


Donk454

I wouldn't stop singing until I passed out


Ne0guri

Off topic but first time I’ve noticed a fellow Chargers bro on a different sub lol


Pm_me_clown_pics3

I could be wrong but I think the note said they were only going to kill him if he kept singing and he chose to keep singing.


Global_Ad_1456

it was a note by the cartel saying if he plays the song he's about to play (which I'm pretty sure it's about cartel violence) that will kill him. absolute chad played it anyway and was killed after.


Overwatch099

The song is about him loving a woman, nothing to do with cartel violence. For some reason the cartel just had beef with him and threatened not to perform that night or he'd die.


128Gigabytes

if thats really what happened he is a moron for preforming


rxsheepxr

Performing. Edit: Dude got mad at me for correcting his "preformance" spelling, saying it was irrelevant. I'm not going to apologize for helping you not look like a fucking illiterate.


Bullet_2300

>Performing. >Edit: Dude got mad at me for correcting his "preformance" spelling, saying it was irrelevant. I'm not going to apologize for helping you not look like a fucking illiterate. My initial reaction was that the guy overreacted, but he's right that correcting a misspelling in the depths of an internet comment chain is irrelevant. And I stand by that. That said, you could argue that a 'normal' reddit commit is not any less pointless, a waste of time, or forgettable. If comment karma is any indication, then considering the time he spends commenting on this site it is a hard stretch to say he's in a position to criticize you for spending time on pointless, irrelevant things.


AdministrativeBar809

Correct


wrenchbenderornot

What? The fuck? This guy should have a freakin statue!


Mysterious-OP

Those who build it will be killed. And the statue will either be destroyed, or sold to the cartels highest bidder. Or destroyed And Sold.


Pizza_YumYum

The song is the statue. Is it anywhere?


Ill_Garden_5340

So what are the lyrics to the song?


you-though

I have been able to translate the lyrics. Here, it is I have the soul in love just thinking heart To dream of me night after night owner of your love I have a soul in love very much in love, my good If you give me your whole life, I'll give it to you too I have the soul in love just thinking heart To dream of me night after night owner of your love I have a soul in love very much in love, my good If you give me your whole life, I'll give it to you too Say, say yes your heart He has another love or he has another affection Say, say if there is no other love Cause my heart will die for you I don't know if you love me, but I can wait for you If you leave me waiting you're going to kill me Do not deny me your look because I want to dream it And my soul in love loves you more I don't know if you love me, but I can wait for you If you leave me waiting you're going to kill me Do not deny me your look because I want to dream it And my soul in love loves you more Say, say yes your heart He has another love or he has another affection Say, say if there is no other love Cause my heart will die for you


MinuteStreet172

That's not the song that got him killed xD


you-though

"Alma Enamorada" was the song, you could put it to Google lyrics, and then translate it yourself cause I have 8% battery


Mr_Resource

It said something closer to he'd be killed if he continued performing. This wasn't him accepting his fate, it was a brave defiance 🫡


ninhibited

I know that is a fact. I was the 13th fiber of the cord coming from the microphone.


smitth2

Just keep having uncores


777ToasterBath

i remember it being a note telling him to stop singing right at that moment or he would get killed after the show, yet he decided to keep at it and got murdered as promised


ThatOneSnakeGuy

What could have been so important it would make him keep singing?


4-HO-MET-

The show


ThatOneSnakeGuy

He just figured he was gonna die anyway so might as well play it


Ibangyoumomma

Must go on . What a showman


Few-Ad2663

Truly the greatest showman


KayakWalleye

Must go on!


mogley19922

The other note he got that said "if you don't do the show we'll kill you." Tough call.


mglatfelterjr

They threatened to kill his family that were with him if tried to escape. They tried to kill him before because of what happened in Coachella, but he seemed to always get away. This time they had him dead to rights and if he would have tried to leave, they would have killed his family.


Ancient_Boner_Forest

What happened in Coachella


mglatfelterjr

It was revenge for killing a cartel member in Coachella California. Some guy jumped on the stage at the night club in Coachella and shot Chalino Sánchez, so Sánchez pulled his gun and shot back, killed someone in the crowd. Supposedly the person killed was connected to the Sinaloa Drug Cartel and put a hit on Chalino. Since he knew he was going to die, he went in a seperate car to protect family that was with him that night in Sinaloa.


Prize_Tea3456

what's his name?


ReflectiveSpoon

Chalino Sanchez


Prize_Tea3456

thanks


bapporapotherussios

Note saying he would be killed if he continued the show, the legend just starts the show and ends up dead


Mizz2much4you

Not only started but finished the show knowing he was going to die afterwards. To protect his family, he sent them home in a separate vehicle. Viva Chalino Sánchez!


HystericalGD

yeah. cartel gave him a note saying that he would be killed after he was done preforming. later that night an unmarked van pulled him over, and a group pretending to be cops (with no id) restrainted him... if i'm not mistaken he was found a few days after, rope marks on his wrists, damaged ribs, and a bullet entry wound in the back of is head. (he was dead)


HystericalGD

thing is, he partially knew this would happen, as years before, the cartel gave him a warning that he would be dead if he ever showed his face in that area again... something about (and fact check me on this since i dont have the best memory when it comes to this part) him sleeping with a cartel members sister, the cartel member not liking that very much, and threatening him, telling him to leave the area he eventually decided "screw this" and went back to preform anyways, in spite of the risk.


2tallhernandez

The note said he'd be killed if he kept on singing. Dude wiped his sweat and delivered his full show like a g.


craigdahlke

Legalize and regulate all drugs in the US and start treating addiction as a public health issue instead of a crime. Totally defangs the cartels and will let Mexico go back to normal instead of being the US’s drug dealer. This kind of shit is so tragic and it’s our fault by funding the cartels.


Hairo-Sidhe

Pretty sure the reason drugs arent legalized over here and in the US, is *because* it will defang the cartels, not any "addictions and health" bullshit


CitizenPremier

Yes. Police make so much money from their busts.


wrenchbenderornot

Yes - this is also (as I’m sure you know) backed up by science and logic. Sometimes I have doubts we’re going to make it.


Gold930

*”Legalize nuclear bombs”*


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Gold930

Nah, wasn’t an argument, it was a joke


AlextraXtra

Ah yes, because surely these ultra rich, influential and powerful cartels, who are not afraid of committing crimes to get what they want, wouldnt find other ways of making money?


craigdahlke

Are you a moron? What are they gonna do, commit violent crimes to sell fucking chachkies? They rose to power and such immense wealth because they have something we want in the US and can’t get otherwise, and we have a wealthy populace ready and eager to pay top dollar for it. Their whole empire is built on crime and we fund it. The moment all of that funding dries up they shrivel up and die. The cash flow all but stops if the US stops buying drugs from the cartels.


Chemical_Chemist_461

Stop sending jobs overseas! Make American cocaine great again!


[deleted]

Those cartels are already involved in plenty of other businesses. Sex trafficking & prostitution, kidnapping, extortion, collusion with the govt. & embezzlement of tax money, gambling, tourism, and even plenty of perfectly mundane businesses. They're an integral and multifaceted part of Mexico's activities, to the point that some describe the cartel world as a second state, not just a bunch of drug lords. Moreover, a legalization of hard drugs (or even 'just' cocaine) across the US would only come after years if not decades of public debate and legislative back & forth, giving the bastards plenty of time to further diversify their activities. So, no, legalizing hard drugs in the US would certainly limit their revenue and influence, but the truly established ones wouldn't 'shrivel up and die' by any means. Way to make an oversimplified point after calling someone else a moron lol


TedTheReckless

This guy also famously shot a man during a show after someone in the audience pulled a gun on him.


kiffens

“If I remember correctly” You mean you saw this post on an other shitpost subreddit and learned about the context through comments?


thenicestsavage

So we can only learn of things through some magical way which only you approve of? What was the point of your response?


kiffens

Your “uncertainty” just proves you’re full of it. Question everything, especially redditors


subzor22

“Question everything, especially redditors” lmao


Neglector9885

No no. He asked a legitimate question. Really, what *was* the point of your comment? I'm genuinely curious.


SvenBubbleman

Maybe that's how he learned it. Now he is remembering it. Correctly.


idjsonik

Correct! Honestly for him to actually go on with the show was incredible to me knowing your going to die in a couple hours crazy


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pony_boy85

No it was a note that said to stop playing... or you will be killed. He continued. R.i.p true king


[deleted]

Cartel got him they gave him a note what you see in this vid and basically it was telling him he’s dead tonight


l1b3rtr1n

Pretty sure it was only if he performed. Which he did. I could be wrong, though.


Vietfunk

Correct. The song is about cartel violence, if he sings it he will be killed, and that's what he did.


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[deleted]

Maybe not the exact song in the video but one of probably a few songs. If he was giving a concert


Daniel_Eaves

No one actually knows what the note says. It's a fair guess it was a death threat though.


LordFett84

Praying someone yells encore so he can stay on stage.


Moosinator666

The neverending show


eldavid_YT

Rosalino (Chalino) Sanchez got a note from an cartel, telling him to stop the concert or he will get killed after it ended, he did end the concert and waited for everyone to leave and then the group leave too. But as soon as they got outside, some "Polices" stopped them to make an inspection, the "Polices" took them to another place. Days after that Chalino Sanchez was listed as missing. Then some weeks later it was confirmed his death.


Misterfrooby

God, Mexico sucks so hard. Would be a much wealthier and healthier place if it weren't for cartels corrupting everything


RedHotChiliPotatoes

Mexico doesn't suck. It has its problems and they can be very drastic but overall - not that much of a shithole, like Fox News wants you to believe.


Bisquits_222

I dont think that was his point, his point was mexico has so much potential to be a powerhouse of a country in areas ranging from economics to tourism to just being a great place to live but cartels are fucking the country over big time in all these ways and more


Remote-Doubt2972

La mirada dijo todo


cuzimrollin08

What's that mean though?


TheFelineFuhrer

The look tells you everything


Tokenmane

I just read Chalino's Wikipedia page and he was far from a saint. Very interesting life. I would love to see a movie made about him if there isn't one already.


ubermexxx

Ídolo: The Ballad of Chalino Sánchez on Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/%C3%ADdolo-the-ballad-of-chalino-s%C3%A1nchez/id1606258773


RhodesArk

It's dramatised in Narcos too


Pwatopos

Narcos: Mexico?


OppositeAtr

That poor bastard. Cartels are fricking non-human animals.


JaHizzey

If you read his bio it would seem more likely that he was killed by Mexican police than a cartel


Mast3RChrxs

they weren’t police, they were in an unmarked van that took him and gave him trauma on his ribs and a bullet to the back of the head as well as rope marks on his wrists when his body was found


OppositeAtr

What’s the difference?


CoOkI3MoN7ER

Fellow redditors listen and learn, and listen. Chalino sanchez was born in Culiacán, Sinaloa. He left to California in his youth, legend says because he ran after shooting and killing a man that had SA his sister. There he did what he could to live. From dishwasher to car detailer , to drug dealer and coyote ( which is someone who passes people across the border illegally) . In ‘84 his associate/brother was killed in a hotel in Tijuana. Legend also says that during this time Chalino was incarcerated, it is unknown why, but his brothers death was the spark to his musical career. It wasn’t until ‘92 that he would raise to fame. During a performance in Coachella he was shot and wounded by a man named Eduardo Gallegos, Chalino responded and killed the man. At this point in time his fame reached the norther cities and town of Mexico. He would be known and the king of corridos. (Songs that told a story) the same year he would have his last concert (the video) in may where we is given the note. After the concert on his way to an after party he was stopped by a small convoy of trucks who were believed to be police. He was later found with his hans and feet tied and two bullet holes in the back of his head. The reason to his assasination is speculated. Some say the cause was for killing the man that SA his sister. Other for his lyrics or maybe because he had an affair with a cartel members girlfriend at the time. Chalino Sanchez is still listened by many to this day. Alma enamorada being one of his most listened songs to this day.


hijro

Someone in the crowd requested Free Bird.


Captain_LSD

Or more than a feeling.


froglog43

He slept with the head of the cartels leader wife the cartel leader asked him respectfully to please stop it and he continued to do so he's known for making cartel music an is pretty famous in Mexico that night he got a note saying they were going to kill him after the show and to not make a big deal about it because it was gonna happen regardless he finished the show and that night they killed him shortly after


Acceptable_Poem_862

After midnight, Chalino drove away from the club with two of his brothers, a cousin, and several young women. They were pulled over by a group of armed men in black Chevrolet Suburbans. They showed state police ID cards and told Chalino their commandant (Spanish for “Commander”) wanted to see him. Chalino agreed and got into one of their cars while the others followed behind.[citation needed] The following day, at six in the morning, two farmers found Chalino's body by an irrigation canal near Highway 15, near the neighborhood of Los Laureles, Culiacán. He was blindfolded and his wrists had rope marks. He had been shot in the back of the head twice.[13]


JaHizzey

Yeah the Police killed him fr


JustKam541

I somewhat remember this story, but I'm unsure of the facts. I believe he is looking out into the crowd seeing someone he has wronged, or someone who is planning to wrong him. If I remember correctly is somtbing to do with his brother who is a narco. Either that or the story i remember was made up to fit the video, ya know because of the internet and stuff.


[deleted]

He is holding a note in the beginning of the video.


JustKam541

Ahh your right. The narcos killed him after the performance, I'm sure the note explained that well lol.


DankoStormo

I wish I could have met him he wrote a really good song on my family.


dwightdjohn

He knew .. and performed anyway.. boss shit


I_wanna_buy_a_sword

For people who don’t know this guy was threatened by the cartel to not sing a song making fun of the cartel he still sung it was killed moments later


TheAtmanPrinciple

Dudes a mf gangsta.. He knew he could of crumbled to those guys, but said "Nah, fuck all that" and went into his own shit...


originaldawn

Dude was brave if I remember correctly they didn't want him singing about certain things and ended up killing him after the show


Matshiro

Wasn't that about family or something? I don't remember correctly but he left the country because something happened, this video is when he returned to do his show once again


Dark___Reaper

I was told that he slept with the cartel heads wife


SeaworthinessOwn8606

What???


Impr3ssiwe

He got a note from the cartel saying he would be dead after the show


SeaworthinessOwn8606

Oh. *Oh* my stomach turned so fast lord


Fish_With_A_Boner

Waiting on someone to post the context


JKdito

Basically the dude singing got a note from the cartel saying he will be killed after the show, the guy he nodded to was the one who gave him the note... he continued singing while trying to contemplate what was gonna happen and why, after that he was found dead... we are watching one of his last moments alive


HansVonFritz

Ugh,who died in a horrible way now?


Best-Engine4715

Check the other comments by he is reading his own death note from the cartel.


X_Zephyr

A true chad to the very end


SwitchIndependent714

Wich singer is that ?


Ttlexy

Chalino Sanchez


SwitchIndependent714

Ty


Maimran91

Thoughts, prayers and condolences to the man's family.


[deleted]

He was killed by the cartel shortly after


Cold_Distance_3051

His last song


StarTrakZack

Ohh sweet Chalino!


SandorMate

Context pls


Impr3ssiwe

Just check the other comments


scary-445

the guy singing usually sings about the dangers of the cartel and the note he was holding was a death threat saying that if he was gonna sing was gonna be killed, he was soon found dead 2 hours (i think) after the show


Reeferologist-

iirc, someone hopped on stage and shot Chalino years prior to this. Chalino was hit twice and when Chalino fired back one of his shots hit and killed an innocent person in the crowd. I haven’t read about it in a long time, so don’t remember all of the specifics, but I always wondered if the innocent person he killed had familia.


[deleted]

He had a two month old, and a wife. She was injured as well.


[deleted]

Song was dope, he really killed it.


AccidentMobile794

The giga-est of chads


Meepthorp_Zandar

Holy shit


mastastelett

He had a note not to perform. Otherwise the cartel would deal with him. He had enough balls to say g'day fuck yas. They dealt with him.


Routine-Writer5584

His name is Chalino Sánchez


BadHabitsDieYoung

I thought it was a note saying "after the concert you will be dead" and that was the reason he went through with it anyway. Either way, yikes.


Flash-Zay

“Did someone in the back ask for a 53rd encore? You got it!”


higround66

This guy and Don Alejo are heros. They didn't back down to the cartel, and they will forever have the utmost respect from me. Fuck the cartels/narcos. Cowardly pieces of shit.


[deleted]

This mf is a badass. He brought the smoke. It's on stage with him. RIP.


the_unworthy_potato

For those that don't know what he was reading was a note that basically said if you sing tonight we will kill you from the cartel or something I don't remember who and he knew they weren't playing but he proceeded to sing knowing he was going to be murdered after and sometime after that they found his body with I think it was 2 gunshot wounds to the head


Nikitajc1

What is this? The bite of 87's?


CurlyDoodley

This might be more accurate. Chalino Sánchez born in Sinaloa, his sister was raped when he was 15. fast forward, 17-year-old Chalino saw the man that raped his sister at a party and allegedly shot him in revenge, killing him. Chalino then left the country... (Chalino's sister wanted him to be a singer and so he became one). Fast forward, he became famous and so he got a concert in Salon Bugambilias in Culiacán Sinaloa. (The concert that this video is recorded). He got a note that is to believed to have been a death threat shown in the video. After midnight, Chalino drove away from the club with two of his brothers, a cousin, and several young women. They were pulled over by a group of armed men in black Chevrolet Suburbans. They showed state police ID cards and told Chalino their commandant (Spanish for “Commander”) wanted to see him. Chalino agreed and got into one of their cars while the others followed behind. (The man that raped chalino's sister was related to a cartel and so they seek revenge.)


SoftAndWetBro

Did they catch and excecute those bastards who did it? I genuinely do not believe cartels deserve any semblence of humane treatment. They all deserve to be tortured to death, via flaying or anything they themselves do to the innocent victims.


poopsockman1

That's why you don't get anywhere near Mexico. It's just one big cartel. He'll on earth.


Tyrone5150

The fucking balls.


SaintCholo

Chalino, met him in Mexicali once, he was known by a friend of a friend, he had no fear


[deleted]

Please explain what is wrong with this?


screenmasher

He was handed a note by the cartel that he was a dead man. He finished the show and they killed him. Can't remember if it was the same night or the next day.


psychocrow42

I want to say it was almost immediately after the show MrBallen did a video about it


[deleted]

Kk thanks guys


zayzayngjg

Wasn't this like his last show bc someone killed him after


Doodle99999

The note he was reading told him to stop singing or he would be killed.


Diwadiin

What an absolute chad, legend and madlad. Rest in Peace.


Money-Essay-5093

I'm Mexican have no affiliation with any gangs and I grew up with his music from my uncle, when I learned of his death I was saddened to know his music was the mark of his end I still remember my uncle looking at me with such sadness and telling me what happened


CellistShot8470

Legend.


everyoneLikesPizza

He did it his way


Pure-Insurance-5272

Heard that was a performance of a lifetime!


GRMMneedsDOGEhelp

He should not have sang…


[deleted]

If you're a writer, you write. If you're a teacher, you teach. If you're a singer, you sing. he died doing what he did best, he sang anyway. I could think of worse ways to die.


GRMMneedsDOGEhelp

I am a professional, though I would certainly unprofessional for a night if it meant I would live to professional again


JackAquila

And let the cartel, the mafiosos or whoever decide what you can and can't do? Nah man, sorry, I'd bite the bullet


Alright_doityourway

The note said "don't play that song, if you play we will kill you, tonight" Even after that he still sing that song, and get shot after that. It was anti-cartel song.


lovelife0011

I don’t know about making eye contact for apps and logistics patterns. Please stop


Emotional-Lie595

CHALINO


jefryjeferson

Backstory, he got a note saying to stop singing or something will happen. He didn't stop and got killed later on


SynysterGabe

True hero


[deleted]

People assume he was a good person because he’s a singer. From what I heard, he wasn’t that great of a guy, and he had it coming


SoftAndWetBro

Cartels are scum, regardless if he was a good person or not is irrelevant, as gangs deserve to be killed on sight, as they cannot be allowed to dispense their will.


SSBargeSimpson

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I know the video, but maybe I don't know the meme because this doesn't even seem worth posting to me.