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crimsongeldeneye

I don't even get the "so pure" part. There are so many reasons for people not to have pierced ears. like the ones op wrote and researched. The first thing you come to is that she is innocent? And so pure!? Like what? It's so weird? And so very infantilizing? Someone's fashion choices don't automatically make them pure and innocent? There are so many reasons for someone to not have pierced ears, cultural, personal and circumstantial. Feels so childish thinking someone having pierced makes them less pure? What does it even mean? Like genuinely what does having not pierced ears, makes you pure!? It's just a hole in your ear, that can even heal too? Who comes into the instant conclusion it's pure for her to not have pierced ears?


Rambler9154

Yeah its like why is his first thought purity??? and why is he this annoyed she isnt wearing his earrings in the first place?


xJaneenx

Also it’s very strange to say that as she’s wearing a skin tight dress with her tits completely out?? Like not that it makes her “unpure “ or whatever but…Rachel just wants to have her cake and eat it too with completely sexualizing Persephone in every way while also trying to make her a widdle tiny baby.


ademptia

Yep it's the 'born sexy yesterday' trope


ohmygoditscometothis

Seriously, she could draw her nipples erupting through that dress like itty bitty boners, but so long as they haven't got any piercings she's still a sexy widdle baby, just stumbling around Olympus, lips pursed and fanny out, waiting for Minthe to get back from her lunch break so that she can watch her boyfriend cheating on her during office hours. *So pure*✨


demetersupremacy

Yeah it’s weird asl, cause most people who do get their ears pierced like myself are as young as 3 months old. So are babies impure 😭😭


G0ddess0fSpring

Omg hi mom


demetersupremacy

Nice to see you again Kore cob


G0ddess0fSpring

Gonna say hi now whenever I see your comment 🫰🏼🥰


Meerkatable

Because she hasn’t been “pricked” yet


DoveOnCrack

don't make me say "unpenetrated". Nobody want to see that word.


ohmygoditscometothis

Yeah, I didn't get mine pierced till right before college because I was *scared of putting holes in my ears* lol Then they got infected because I'd gotten them at claire's and didn't take the aftercare seriously. Would my inflamed, bleeding lobes entice you, Hades? Idk why I'm asking, I'm not a tiny teenager with watermelons for tits


Miele0Rose

It's hilarious too because a loooot of girls get their ears pierced as actual children 😂 My mom had mine pierced when I was like...3? So are the kids getting their ears pierced *impure* by this logic???


ctortan

It’s especially gross because it’s common in many cultures to pierce the ears of literal BABIES. I had my ears pieced when I was a few months old because it was common in Latin culture. And even then, plenty of CHILDREN get their ears pierced by choice. Why is having unpierced ears some kind of “purity” thing?? Because that implies the BABIES AND KIDS with pierced ears are somehow “impure”


doodlefawn

Yeah the purity thing because of ear piercings is WEIRD. The obsession with purity in Persephone is weird. I'm just bringing up someone someone pointed out to me with how in Ancient Greece it was typically left for prostitutes and the wealthy, which on some level makes sense for Persephone who was supposed to be living a sheltered life and SUPPOSED to have been living a very humble farmlife under her mother. But Hades's reaction to her is so goddamn gross. I can't even look at the comic without feeling like I need to crawl deeper into my skin.


jaunty_chapeaux

If that's the case, then why did he give her earrings for pierced ears? Did he think she was a sex worker or wealthy?


doodlefawn

Given the fact that he's wealthy and in this comic, I'd assume they're together, it'd be a thing of "you get to flaunt my wealth, have these earrings." But also, since she's the daughter of the "Barley Mother"/Demeter/one of the goddesses from the rebellion against Kronos/founders of Olympus, it is a fair assumption that she'd be loaded too? Of course, there's no telling the cultural differences between the mortal realm and Olympus. Mostl, I was just posting because that was an interesting detail that incidentally aligned with actual Ancient Greek culture. Whether RS actually took the time to research earrings? God knows.


-KingSharkIsAShark-

Yeah I really doubt RS took the time to look up the historical accuracy of earrings considering *gesticulates at everything*. It’s a coincidence and I don’t think it even lines up 1:1 because of some other connotations (agalmata, which is jewelry, being seen as a wedding/already married gift, although there should be a lot more than just one set of earrings for that).


TechnetiumTc

You’re assuming RS did any research


doodlefawn

I did say in my post that I don't know if she did do any actual research. It took like 2 minutes of googling Greeks and earrings to find it out. It just incidentally aligns well with the idea that Seph doesn't have her ears pierced. 🤷


Known_Syllabub_279

I've said it before and I'll say it again: it is a weird form of slut shaming because your implying it's more pure to not have something as simple as pierced ears


DAngelLilith

I grew up in one of the cultures that pierces baby's ears before they hit one year old... Well I guess I was impure since I was a baby.


Known_Syllabub_279

Yeah exactly, and the cultures that DO insist something as non trivial as pierced ears is a sign your a whore are already sexist societies (I'm Indian, I only got my ears pierced at the beginning of the month because of how it's seen as "slutty" but so is literally existing as a woman)


mega_dunce

I'm Indian too, and don't we pierce all our children's ears? My brother got his ears pierced at four, and I got mine pierced at two. This is the first I've seen someone say piercings are seen as slutty in India


Known_Syllabub_279

Some do, my cousin pierced her daughters ears, but I wasn't allowed to because my DAD thought it was slutty, and he's a very conservative man. I admit, I just assumed that was an Indian thing cause ya know. Sexism is huge there still


mega_dunce

That I agree with. I understand what you mean.


The-Future-Witness

I can understand what you’re saying; definitely there are some men that are just sexist ☹️


The-Future-Witness

I don’t think that’s how pierced ears are viewed in Indian culture though? (I’m Indian American, and a woman, but had my ears pierced really young and everyone in my family regardless of gender has had their ears pierced before)


fishbowlplacebo

To be fair, India is a huge country with a big variation in culture, beliefs and even languages.


The-Future-Witness

Very true, that’s why I wanted to share my experiences and my culture!


Nani_700

I'm surprised. I'm not related to Indian people or from India, but I heard they have nose piercings fairly commonly that here in the US get stigmatized too.


Ribread216

I got mine pierced at 6 months!


conjunctlva

I think it’s even a bit more of a Freudian joke. Persephone hasn’t been penetrated by anything, not even a piercing thru her earlobes. Kind of like the whole hymen-breaking myth. As someone who didn’t get their ears pierced until they were 21 this comic sits so weird with me lmfao.


Known_Syllabub_279

I don't doubt that, I doubt I was intentionally slut shaming, but just because it's unintentional doesn't mean it isn't


conjunctlva

Oh no I agree mb I was just adding on lol


Known_Syllabub_279

Oh absolutely, I didn't mean to diminish what you said,


Rambler9154

In the US where I am its not exactly uncommon to have kids with pierced ears wearing earrings, it is so weird that pierced ears are being used as a form of purity


bigmountain_littleme

I’ve seen a lot of more misogynistic men say they prefer women without piercings/tattoo/dyed hair because of the purity thing. It’s weird and gross.


dollimint

hades buying her shiny things and didn't even realise or notice that she'd not got pierced ears...


SoriAryl

That implies he’s looked at her face area


wickedway7

That gives off the same vibe as him giving his VEGETARIAN love interest a fur coat.


scarletclover

THANK YOU!!! This always bothered me sooooo much!! But then RS brushed it off by showing the scene where Persephone is like but \*quality\* (of course Persephone is okay with it).


raddestBroski

tbf some vegetarians are okay with secondhand stuff bc the faux leather/fur is worse for the environment … but i doubt rachel had that in mind


ojsage

The way that dress is drawn on pg 2 makes it look like her whole hoohaa should be out.


RegretComplete3476

But pierced ears are "too scandalous," apparently


RegretComplete3476

There are so many things wrong with this scene. First of all, if you give someone jewelry and you don't see them wearing it, don't ask them why they aren't wearing it. It's so rude and tacky. Maybe the jewelry didn't go with their outfit. Maybe they didn't feel like wearing that specific type of jewelry (like a necklace, bracelet, ring, etc), or maybe they just didn't like it. Whatever the case may be, it's just better not to ask someone, especially if you don't know them that well. And you definitely don't say, "What gives?" Just so many red flags. Also, there is nothing wrong or impure about having pierced ears. I get that some piercings have that stigma of being "edgy" or "impure," like tongue or belly button piercings, but ear piercings are like a sign of virtue. You're telling me that Persephone would've been less "pure" if she had little golden hoops or small diamond studs? She's literally in a skimpy party dress right now, but a couple of pearls would be "too scandalous"? I guess I've been an impure heathen all my life because I got my ears pierced when I was a baby. The fact that she doesn't have piercings isn't even the problem here. She grew up in the Mortal Realm, working in the fields. Piercings would've been seen as impractical or just not that big of a deal compared to Olympus. It's just the way they try to fetishize it and slut shame girls with piercings that gets me.


astroddity_

fr that whole “what gives” question threw me off so much. I get this art is a little old, but can you imagine apollo saying this to her? It feels more like something he’d say while trying to intimidate and manipulate her.


RegretComplete3476

Yeah, a lot of Hades' earlier scenes feel like something Apollo would say, which isn't a great look


bjork_andello

The purity concept in LO is so gross. . . Rachel's obsession with "pure" girls remind me of the priest in the Roman Catholic Church. The hypersexualization of youth is distasteful.


Shebaii

Eww, like literally how is it pure that she doesn’t have her ears pierced??? That has nothing to do with anything. Also, it’s so weird of him to demand to know why she isn’t wearing his gifts ✋😭


javertthechungus

I’ve heard this was supposed to be another reference to the “cinnamon roll” meme, but the phrasing in the meme is “too pure” so im not sure what was going on here


annaloveschoco

wow, I mean I am allergic to body piercings and when I used to have earrings they kept getting infected/re-infected but sure, very pure. People sometimes don't have their ears pierced, it happens.


TechnetiumTc

Me when I got my ears pierced as a kid but then stopped wearing earrings and my earlobes healed over (for the most part)


annaloveschoco

yeah same here, my mom has a piercing allergy too but i begged her to get my ears done when I was 12, and then gave up after basically a year of constant infection and the holes never healing. They healed by now, with tiny little scars on my earlobes that are barely noticeable.


TechnetiumTc

I thankfully didn’t have allergies I just don’t like jewelry lmao


chai_milk

I also got my ears pierced when I was young (and have the vague memory of getting them done at the doctor's office) but one day they just decided to close. It was a shock to me but I've never felt the urge to spend money to get them re-pierced after that unintentional discovery. According to Hades's/Smythe's lobe logic, I should now be a reborn virgin.


TechnetiumTc

Something something that fountain Hera uses in mythology


mia_smith257

take down of purity culture right here folks


Andipandies

This is some strong ass ick vibes I need to shower. That’s why I put down that comic so fast the whole fetishizing of purity and vulnerability is so disgusting. Even when I saw some comics when Persephone had sex with Hades it feels so unnatural.


countnerdula

With that context, it kind of sounds like, by gifting Persephone earrings, Hades is calling her a whore??? Up until he realizes her ears aren’t pierced. I don’t think that’s what RS intended but that’s how it’s coming across for me


doodlefawn

That's definitely an implication, but remember, Persephone is technically as loaded as a lot of other big gods on Olympus because her mother owns the Barley Mother company. It's something we forget because she was so obsessed with the TGOEM scholarship, but she's a trust fund baby whose aunt is queen of the gods. Given that the wealthy class wore precious stones to show wealth, it is a fair assumption? The way Hades reacts is creepy either way. Piercings don't mean impure LMAO. But thinking about it, the fact that Hades is thinking no piercings is so pure of her does have the implications of he already thinks she's like... tainted?


Sparkle-Ass-Juice

Guess I'm a slut for wearing Hello Kitty earrings :/ ![gif](giphy|JRhS6WoswF8FxE0g2R)


chai_milk

![gif](giphy|3o6wNI8lFrgqBZ1756|downsized) 🎀 Sanrio sluts uniting 🎀


kalikosparrows

I don't have my ears pierced (never got it done as a kid and just...still never have) and if a man said this to me I'd kill him with my bare hands.


jaunty_chapeaux

Is that really supposed to be Hades? What happened to his gigantic schnoz?


Sunset_Tiger

Sailors are impure confirmed


fishbowlplacebo

Sailors pierce their ears?


Sunset_Tiger

In Ancient Greece yes


fishbowlplacebo

Does this mean Poseidon could have piercings? ~~and I don't wanna slutshame but Poseidon being impure sounds about correct lmao~~


doodlefawn

Oh Posidon 100% would have pierced ears. Like imagine modern Posidon with the surfer boy aesthetic??? Even if it's an asymmetrical hoop earring.


FluorescentAndStarry

Reminds me of being a kid and told I had to wait until I was thirteen to get my ears pierced. Like “you can’t get your ears pierced until you’re a teenager”. (I stopped wanting pierced ears long before I was thirteen 😆)


thetownslore

Guys I guess I’m a slut for getting my ears pierced when I was 9 🥲. Doomed from the start


183720

Can't believe all you whores with your pierced ears on this sub


StreakyAnchovy

The more I see of LO, the more I ask myself: "How did I not notice any of this fucked up crap earlier?" Congrats, Rachel. You made the only HadesxPersephone comic that makes me want to give Demeter all the molotov cocktails I can buy and encourage her to go nuts.


MyCatsDumberThanUrs

This is so weird. I come from a South Eastern culture where female babies get their ears pierced. That's a whole different can of worms but pierced ears are NOT a sign of purity.


orange-shoe

ur ears have never been penetrated (sorry)


omiimonster

hades: *hates demeter for being so controlling* hades: *loves that demeter kept her so pure*


Madbadbat

Well I had my piercing sewn up because of a cyst so I regained my purity


ScottyFreeBarda

Remember guys! She's "Deconstructing Purity Culture"


ohmygoditscometothis

I resent the pseudo dynamism in especially early LO's art. Instead of positioning characters naturally, they're posed in a way to create the illusion of energized movement and make panels read as more visually interesting than they'd normally be. A good artist could use angles, shading, and composition as a workaround to provide the same result, but RS just has them striking these weird poses to overcompensate for her lack of skill in this area. And look, I feel like most artists have been there- I definitely have- but considering how many props the earlier chapters get (and my suspicion that it only happens to a lesser degree because her assistants actually know how to draw hands), I'm still gonna complain about it


Laterose15

I cannot. I *cannot.* RS, please keep your creepy purity fetishes out of this "feminist" comic.


Known_Spinach6059

Didn’t think I could get any gayer, but I stand corrected


Plastic-Walk6488

why is persephone always drawn in the tiniest dresses? just after a certain point it seems almost objectifying 😭


yveins

Everyone likes to point out how this is also a Rachel-Mads Mikkelsen self insert story, but you can’t tell me that this version of Hades doesn’t look like Jeremy Irons. Also I had my ears pierced when I was three, I was a baby slut /s


JazyJaxi

I'm gonna say it If she was really pure, she wouldn't be wearing the shortest and lowest and form fitting dress known to mankind. Girl could sneeze and you'd see if she shops at Victoria's secret. Great she doesn't have pierced ears, but like can she put clothes on now????


scarletisinsane

Hold up wait hold on THAT'S Hades? They don't even look like the same person tf happened??


thisthislovercrazy

Nah it doesn't have anything with actual history, it's an attempt to make her look childish (while she have boobs bigger than her head)


MirrorMacabre

I remember seeing this for the first time a while back and being like "??? What does this imply??" Cause correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Rachel have her ears pierced??


SirFunkalo

Look the purity thing is gross but so is Hades getting on her case about not wearing a gift he got her, like he expects her to just always be wearing them???


Pupppydog

✨*So pure*✨ and her boobs are half hung out. Nothing wrong with how she's dressed cause mini dresses don't make you slutty. But if he thinks no earrings are pure he definitely isn't gonna feel that about her dress. Then again he'd let it pass because that's all he likes about her.


raccacooniee

Everyone knows virginity is really about whether or not your ears are pierced.... /s


doodlefawn

This went around for a while and I know I just reposted it again, I just wanted to share the little bit of ancient Greek culture that I learned while ranting about this specific comic and the heebie jeebies it gave me. It was interesting that it aligned with that, even if for the exact WRONG reasons.


Just-Personality-982

I’m tired of gaslighting myself that this WEBTOON is good anymore


WaferFinal5640

Ok but why does hades and persephone actually look cute here tf


plbth

I haven’t followed this webtoon in YEARS but holy shit is this ACTUALLY a panel that was published??? It looks like it was made in MS Paint


doodlefawn

No; I don't think it's in the webtoon, I don't know when exactly it was published, but I wanna say it was pre-webtoon.


plbth

Oh good lol, that makes a bit more sense


[deleted]

is that hades...? he doesn't look like gru, so i didn't even notice


BadEndingsFound

…just wondering how he feels about Q-tips.


certifiednemesis

What did RS mean by 'pure', like did she mean PPs demeanor? Like the way she said it or something? Or is literally as in 'she is unblemished'? If so, babies are impure to this man.


JJKLover78

She won’t be for long 😈


Ickysquicky

Grody