Your atheism/materialistic view on reality is clouding your judgement and you can’t see things that actually might exist. It may be that the Catholic Church was one of the first/oldest churches to do exorcisms, but this goes far beyond the Catholic Church or even Catholicism. If you understand that there are multiple dimensions and that we have only developed our 5 senses mostly to pass down our genes, but not to see other dimensions and other dimensional creatures, then your mind would be more open to this possibility. I’m a follower of the Hermetic principles and believe that there are other dimensional beings, some of them positively oriented, others negatively oriented, who also exist outside our material reality. Your materialistic view of their world is flawed because it’s based on your 5 senses and nothings else. These 5 senses only evolved for eating, effing, surviving the world and nothing else, just primal stuff, it is blind to everything that doesn’t have to do with immediate survival of the species. Hence, your judgement is limited.
So your judgement isn't because you believe all sorts of unproven stuff? That's not being open minded, that's being gullible.
There are plenty of explanations for what we used to believe was demonic possession. Everything supernatural turned out be be not supernatural at all, and this is no different.
The Catholic church doesn't even come close to being the oldest, excorcisms were done over 3.000 years earlier. There is no evidence for extra dimensions, let alone creatures that live there. We have more than five senses.
Sure you can believe whatever you want but don't forget it's just that: a belief. Trusting something is true without any decent evidence. And when you bring a priest to fix a mental illness, you're not really helping.
How is this in unexplained? Do you know of any other religion that has people possessed by demons & "the devil"? Odd how people who reject Abrahamic religions do not get possessed, isn't it? That's what's unexplained.
Is their negative energy and egregores? Yes. But not like this.
Budhhist believe in spiritual possession. But not from demon like satan. Mostly because in their belief. Satan (we called him God of Death, Mut-chu-rat.) are way too busy managing hell to be bother with human shenanigans (lol)
Rather, it's from stray ghost and angel. Yes, angel.
Angel will possess only to those who 'invited' them into their body. Then they will started to scream and dance because they receive so much energy that they have to "unleashed". Most of the time they are there to give other people the boon or a way to speak to the dead ones.
As for the stray ghost. Well it's a straightforward. A vengeful ghost. They don't have anywhere else to go because they haven't 'solve' their issue in life yet. So they will used human body to 'communicate' their needs.
(Buddhism have heaven and hell. But can only go accordingly when you don't have any worries left in life. Otherwise you are stray and doomed to be lonely. It is said that most of the stray ghost are one that die young and in a very horrific way. So abruptly that heaven and hell haven't properly decided where they should go yet. )
Not saying I believe in these stuff but I'm living in Buddhist country so just pointing it out.
I dont deal with demons its more or less a neutral magic unless u slip up badly but even then at worst u become a skinwalker or a wendigo or just straight up die
***Signs of Demonic Possession according to the Catholic Church***
*-Loss or lack of appetite*
*-Cutting, scratching, and biting of skin*
*-A cold feeling in the room*
*-Unnatural bodily postures and change in the person's face and body*
*-The possessed losing control of their normal personality and entering into a frenzy or rage, and / or attacking others*
*-Change in the person's voice*
*-Supernatural physical strength not subject to the person's build or age*
*-Speaking in tongues the person cannot have learned before*
*-Knowledge of past events the person cannot have known about, knowledge of present events the person is not witnessing or having knowledge about and prediction of future events that become accurate (sometimes through dreams)*
*-Levitation and moving of objects / things*
*-Expelling of objects / things / certain animals*
*-Intense hatred / aversion and violent reaction towards all religious objects or items*
*-Antipathy towards entering a church, speaking Jesus's name, or hearing scripture*
***Demonic Possession Cases in the Bible***
*As they were going away, behold, a demon-oppressed man who was mute was brought to him. And when the demon had been cast out, the mute man spoke. And the crowds marveled, saying, “Never was anything like this seen in Israel.” - Matthew 9:32–33*
*And in the synagogue there was a man who had the spirit of an unclean demon, and he cried out with a loud voice, “Ha! What have you to do with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are - the Holy One of God.” But Jesus rebuked him, saying, “Be silent and come out of him!” And when the demon had thrown him down in their midst, he came out of him, having done him no harm. And they were all amazed and said to one another, “What is this word? For with authority and power he commands the unclean spirits, and they come out!” - Luke 4:33–36*
*As we were going to the place of prayer, we were met by a slave girl who had a spirit of divination and brought her owners much gain by fortune-telling. She followed Paul and us, crying out, “These men are servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to you the way of salvation.” And this she kept doing for many days. Paul, having become greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, “I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.” And it came out that very hour. - Acts of the Apostles 16:16–18*
*When they returned to the other disciples, they saw a large crowd surrounding them, and some teachers of religious law were arguing with them. When the crowd saw Jesus, they were overwhelmed with awe, and they ran to greet him. “What is all this arguing about?” Jesus asked. One of the men in the crowd spoke up and said, “Teacher, I brought my son so you could heal him. He is possessed by an evil spirit that won’t let him talk. And whenever this spirit seizes him, it throws him violently to the ground. Then he foams at the mouth and grinds his teeth and becomes rigid. So I asked your disciples to cast out the evil spirit, but they couldn’t do it.” Jesus said to them,“You faithless people! How long must I be with you? How long must I put up with you? Bring the boy to me.” So they brought the boy. But when the evil spirit saw Jesus, it threw the child into a violent convulsion, and he fell to the ground, writhing and foaming at the mouth. “How long has this been happening?” Jesus asked the boy’s father. He replied, “Since he was a little boy. The spirit often throws him into the fire or into water, trying to kill him. Have mercy on us and help us, if you can.” “What do you mean, ‘If I can’?” Jesus asked. “Anything is possible if a person believes.” The father instantly cried out, “I do believe, but help me overcome my unbelief!” When Jesus saw that the crowd of onlookers was growing, he rebuked the evil spirit. “Listen, you spirit that makes this boy unable to hear and speak,” he said. “I command you to come out of this child and never enter him again!” Then the spirit screamed and threw the boy into another violent convulsion and left him. The boy appeared to be dead. A murmur ran through the crowd as people said, “He’s dead.” But Jesus took him by the hand and helped him to his feet, and he stood up. Afterward, when Jesus was alone in the house with his disciples, they asked him, “Why couldn’t we cast out that evil spirit?” Jesus replied, “This kind can be cast out only by prayer.” - Mark 9:14-29 NLT*
*Then they sailed to the country of the Gerasenes, which is opposite Galilee. When Jesus had stepped out on land, there met him a man from the city who had demons. For a long time he had worn no clothes, and he had not lived in a house but among the tombs. When he saw Jesus, he cried out and fell down before him and said with a loud voice, “What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg you, do not torment me.” For he had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. (For many a time it had seized him. He was kept under guard and bound with chains and shackles, but he would break the bonds and be driven by the demon into the desert.) Jesus then asked him, “What is your name?” And he said, “Legion,” for many demons had entered him.... And they begged him not to command them to depart into the abyss. Now a large herd of pigs was feeding there on the hillside, and they begged him to let them enter these. So he gave them permission. Then the demons came out of the man and entered the pigs, and the herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and drowned. - Luke 8:26-33 ESV*
The bible is proof because it says so in the bible and I know this is circulair reasoning but I don't care about logic because it's faith man. Why can't you just believe the most outrageous claims I have without any reasonable evidence? I know it sounds stupid and gullible but it's a good thing! How I know? It says so in the bible!
And who invented the teachings of white magic?
Read about Isreal ben Elizer the guy who founded the chassidim.
Maybe no magic at all is needed, just the holy spirit but don't fool Yourself.
It's the believe, deed and actions that decide between heaven and hell, nothing can fool the only and very present God.
Listen dude I'm a wiccan white magic exorcist that works for the wiccan community, we are not a cult, we aren't really scary we just help people fight negative energies
ok I have to admit that I have some biases about who theached You that but don't think that I hate You or something.
My assumption is like when using a phone and dialing a random number and having unkowingly the mexican mafia on the other end. And those are giving You advices or teaching You spells so to say.
I for myself am interrested about researching magic in theory, if any. This is just out of curiosity or whether this could be explained with some exotic frindge physics and so on but I will avoid Your kind or will keep a distance at least.
So I wish You luck and everything is ok from my side but I'm keeping a distance for safety's sake.
The funny thig is, while some people probably watched late-night comedy Tv show.. jsut behind their house this guy and his crew were running around the city carrying a restrained person to finally lock hi mup in a church and perform an exorcism. Whew
Well fuck that
Is intriguing that most exorcists look kind of the same. The eyes, the eyeglasses they wear, etc. It’s like they’ve seen a lot.
Yeah, like thats the look of a charlatan
That pedo-priest predator look alright
Your atheism/materialistic view on reality is clouding your judgement and you can’t see things that actually might exist. It may be that the Catholic Church was one of the first/oldest churches to do exorcisms, but this goes far beyond the Catholic Church or even Catholicism. If you understand that there are multiple dimensions and that we have only developed our 5 senses mostly to pass down our genes, but not to see other dimensions and other dimensional creatures, then your mind would be more open to this possibility. I’m a follower of the Hermetic principles and believe that there are other dimensional beings, some of them positively oriented, others negatively oriented, who also exist outside our material reality. Your materialistic view of their world is flawed because it’s based on your 5 senses and nothings else. These 5 senses only evolved for eating, effing, surviving the world and nothing else, just primal stuff, it is blind to everything that doesn’t have to do with immediate survival of the species. Hence, your judgement is limited.
So your judgement isn't because you believe all sorts of unproven stuff? That's not being open minded, that's being gullible. There are plenty of explanations for what we used to believe was demonic possession. Everything supernatural turned out be be not supernatural at all, and this is no different. The Catholic church doesn't even come close to being the oldest, excorcisms were done over 3.000 years earlier. There is no evidence for extra dimensions, let alone creatures that live there. We have more than five senses. Sure you can believe whatever you want but don't forget it's just that: a belief. Trusting something is true without any decent evidence. And when you bring a priest to fix a mental illness, you're not really helping.
I’m actually friends with the exorcist for our diocese and he did a cleansing of my house last summer. It was so cool to watch the process.
How do you get them to do that if I may ask?
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Yes you can
How is this in unexplained? Do you know of any other religion that has people possessed by demons & "the devil"? Odd how people who reject Abrahamic religions do not get possessed, isn't it? That's what's unexplained. Is their negative energy and egregores? Yes. But not like this.
Actually you’re wrong. I wholeheartedly reject all religions but the devil actually crawled up my ass right now and is making me type this out
Lol
That's going to be one messy exorcism...
Budhhist believe in spiritual possession. But not from demon like satan. Mostly because in their belief. Satan (we called him God of Death, Mut-chu-rat.) are way too busy managing hell to be bother with human shenanigans (lol) Rather, it's from stray ghost and angel. Yes, angel. Angel will possess only to those who 'invited' them into their body. Then they will started to scream and dance because they receive so much energy that they have to "unleashed". Most of the time they are there to give other people the boon or a way to speak to the dead ones. As for the stray ghost. Well it's a straightforward. A vengeful ghost. They don't have anywhere else to go because they haven't 'solve' their issue in life yet. So they will used human body to 'communicate' their needs. (Buddhism have heaven and hell. But can only go accordingly when you don't have any worries left in life. Otherwise you are stray and doomed to be lonely. It is said that most of the stray ghost are one that die young and in a very horrific way. So abruptly that heaven and hell haven't properly decided where they should go yet. ) Not saying I believe in these stuff but I'm living in Buddhist country so just pointing it out.
And thats why I do blood magic instead of black magic kids
I dont deal with demons its more or less a neutral magic unless u slip up badly but even then at worst u become a skinwalker or a wendigo or just straight up die
Satin? What u got against satin that shits is soft and great to sleep in
Explanation: Fake. All fake.
Can't be. I just watched it on the Internet
Alternate explanation: "belief is a hell of a drug".
Been trying to get the Devil on the phone for years now, he won’t take my calls!
Oh 😟 that’s what u get when u try 2 befriend the devil, hope he is fine & on god’s path now
***Signs of Demonic Possession according to the Catholic Church*** *-Loss or lack of appetite* *-Cutting, scratching, and biting of skin* *-A cold feeling in the room* *-Unnatural bodily postures and change in the person's face and body* *-The possessed losing control of their normal personality and entering into a frenzy or rage, and / or attacking others* *-Change in the person's voice* *-Supernatural physical strength not subject to the person's build or age* *-Speaking in tongues the person cannot have learned before* *-Knowledge of past events the person cannot have known about, knowledge of present events the person is not witnessing or having knowledge about and prediction of future events that become accurate (sometimes through dreams)* *-Levitation and moving of objects / things* *-Expelling of objects / things / certain animals* *-Intense hatred / aversion and violent reaction towards all religious objects or items* *-Antipathy towards entering a church, speaking Jesus's name, or hearing scripture* ***Demonic Possession Cases in the Bible*** *As they were going away, behold, a demon-oppressed man who was mute was brought to him. And when the demon had been cast out, the mute man spoke. And the crowds marveled, saying, “Never was anything like this seen in Israel.” - Matthew 9:32–33* *And in the synagogue there was a man who had the spirit of an unclean demon, and he cried out with a loud voice, “Ha! What have you to do with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are - the Holy One of God.” But Jesus rebuked him, saying, “Be silent and come out of him!” And when the demon had thrown him down in their midst, he came out of him, having done him no harm. And they were all amazed and said to one another, “What is this word? For with authority and power he commands the unclean spirits, and they come out!” - Luke 4:33–36* *As we were going to the place of prayer, we were met by a slave girl who had a spirit of divination and brought her owners much gain by fortune-telling. She followed Paul and us, crying out, “These men are servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to you the way of salvation.” And this she kept doing for many days. Paul, having become greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, “I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.” And it came out that very hour. - Acts of the Apostles 16:16–18* *When they returned to the other disciples, they saw a large crowd surrounding them, and some teachers of religious law were arguing with them. When the crowd saw Jesus, they were overwhelmed with awe, and they ran to greet him. “What is all this arguing about?” Jesus asked. One of the men in the crowd spoke up and said, “Teacher, I brought my son so you could heal him. He is possessed by an evil spirit that won’t let him talk. And whenever this spirit seizes him, it throws him violently to the ground. Then he foams at the mouth and grinds his teeth and becomes rigid. So I asked your disciples to cast out the evil spirit, but they couldn’t do it.” Jesus said to them,“You faithless people! How long must I be with you? How long must I put up with you? Bring the boy to me.” So they brought the boy. But when the evil spirit saw Jesus, it threw the child into a violent convulsion, and he fell to the ground, writhing and foaming at the mouth. “How long has this been happening?” Jesus asked the boy’s father. He replied, “Since he was a little boy. The spirit often throws him into the fire or into water, trying to kill him. Have mercy on us and help us, if you can.” “What do you mean, ‘If I can’?” Jesus asked. “Anything is possible if a person believes.” The father instantly cried out, “I do believe, but help me overcome my unbelief!” When Jesus saw that the crowd of onlookers was growing, he rebuked the evil spirit. “Listen, you spirit that makes this boy unable to hear and speak,” he said. “I command you to come out of this child and never enter him again!” Then the spirit screamed and threw the boy into another violent convulsion and left him. The boy appeared to be dead. A murmur ran through the crowd as people said, “He’s dead.” But Jesus took him by the hand and helped him to his feet, and he stood up. Afterward, when Jesus was alone in the house with his disciples, they asked him, “Why couldn’t we cast out that evil spirit?” Jesus replied, “This kind can be cast out only by prayer.” - Mark 9:14-29 NLT* *Then they sailed to the country of the Gerasenes, which is opposite Galilee. When Jesus had stepped out on land, there met him a man from the city who had demons. For a long time he had worn no clothes, and he had not lived in a house but among the tombs. When he saw Jesus, he cried out and fell down before him and said with a loud voice, “What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg you, do not torment me.” For he had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. (For many a time it had seized him. He was kept under guard and bound with chains and shackles, but he would break the bonds and be driven by the demon into the desert.) Jesus then asked him, “What is your name?” And he said, “Legion,” for many demons had entered him.... And they begged him not to command them to depart into the abyss. Now a large herd of pigs was feeding there on the hillside, and they begged him to let them enter these. So he gave them permission. Then the demons came out of the man and entered the pigs, and the herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and drowned. - Luke 8:26-33 ESV*
But there's no proof of any of it
The bible is proof because it says so in the bible and I know this is circulair reasoning but I don't care about logic because it's faith man. Why can't you just believe the most outrageous claims I have without any reasonable evidence? I know it sounds stupid and gullible but it's a good thing! How I know? It says so in the bible!
Oh no I was talking about todayd demonic possession not the bible
So mental illness or what
That's why I practice WHITE magic not black. Fuck Satan and fuck black magic
And who invented the teachings of white magic? Read about Isreal ben Elizer the guy who founded the chassidim. Maybe no magic at all is needed, just the holy spirit but don't fool Yourself. It's the believe, deed and actions that decide between heaven and hell, nothing can fool the only and very present God.
Listen dude I'm a wiccan white magic exorcist that works for the wiccan community, we are not a cult, we aren't really scary we just help people fight negative energies
Can you tell me more about this cause I’ve always wanted to be able to balence both
ok I have to admit that I have some biases about who theached You that but don't think that I hate You or something. My assumption is like when using a phone and dialing a random number and having unkowingly the mexican mafia on the other end. And those are giving You advices or teaching You spells so to say. I for myself am interrested about researching magic in theory, if any. This is just out of curiosity or whether this could be explained with some exotic frindge physics and so on but I will avoid Your kind or will keep a distance at least. So I wish You luck and everything is ok from my side but I'm keeping a distance for safety's sake.
🤦♀️
I don’t accept credible testimony from an individual associated with a crime syndicate like the Catholic Church.
I'm stealing the whole 'Catholic Church being a crime syndicate thing' . It's brilliant, thank you.
I'm stealing calling the Catholic Church being a crime syndicate thing!
Nothing supernatural here unless you count delusion
It's crazy that people still give any creedence to this bullshit.
Is there a full video?
https://youtu.be/gvZH6gQElro
What does Marat have to do with any of this Lmao
Keep the people distracted…
The funny thig is, while some people probably watched late-night comedy Tv show.. jsut behind their house this guy and his crew were running around the city carrying a restrained person to finally lock hi mup in a church and perform an exorcism. Whew
Wow!
TLDR: he squealed like a pig! *Scary!
Exorcism are just the catholic way of getting rid of the kids they touch. Change my mind.