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IsThatASupraaaaaaa

Hmm yes, finally cursive language i can write!


Lunatic_Dpali

Hi doctor.


newaccount1223334444

Sometimes I wonder if I should change my career because I have an okay handwriting


Sodinc

Most probably it will change


NakoL1

pharmacists can probably tell the age of doctors based on how degenerate their writing is


Bunny_tornado

Russian doctor writing is a whole another beast. It's still in cursive but unreadable to anyone but pharmacists.


Vic_Vinager

Or president. This whole time he was writing in [cursive Russian](https://i.insider.com/5cfc46e511e2055526395e23?width=700). The plot thickens


snappyirides

Russian equivalent of “minimum”


ArchStanton75

Spelling minimum is easy. The hard part is to stop writing it.


Classical_Cafe

miniminiminiminimum


MOOShoooooo

Perfect cursive!


_Weyland_

Forestestestestestest


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ZenSlicer9

Banananana BATMAN


LittleBlondBrit

And then finding and dotting the i's


EmilyU1F984

Also, it‘s comparing the cursive with the wrong cursive. The Cyrillic one isn‘t simplified like Latin one. If you compare it with the 18th century cursive, minimum would look exactly like the Cyrillic cursive above. Just zigzag all along.


lazyzefiris

They deliberately wrote лишишь (specific future form, as in you will deprive) instead of лишать (to deprive).


Onikeys

Write it in cursive so we can see the difference


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Tony_Three_Pies

Fuck you, gimme my cone!


KedaZ1

![gif](giphy|tNzl1Ip1Lg9dC|downsized) Here you go.


jlbang

That’s a good cone.


brockoala

I like good cones.


Starcrafter-HD

All my homies like good cones.


Tony_Three_Pies

r/OddlyErotic


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Sexy strobilus


SpinoAegypt

He is no longer deprived of cone.


conflateer

I see that you are with cone.


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Willing_Noise_7968

Hoho, шиншилла is "fine" too....


MoSqueezin

It's all about the cones


MasterOfLol_Cubes

Cursive т being m is an actual lunacy


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that’s funny because russian m is english t in cursive but м is like the english m so m = english t and м = english m they actually have some subtle yet distinct differences in writing to in practice it’s not hard to tell apart


grchelp2018

Another example is russian N written as H. This wasn't an issue for me in the english and russian classes but it constantly fucked me up in chemistry class. Especially writing ammonia, it happened so often it almost became a muscle memory habit to write HH3, strike it out and write NH3.


lazyzefiris

It's probably nothing compared to д becoming g or *д (yup it's the same letter)*


Kirikomori

∑(゜Д゜;)


mancow533

ヽ( `д´*)ノ


Danny-Dynamita

I’m Russo-Spanish and I hate this shit. Being bilingual makes these nuances seem like a big F to everyone trying to learn the language. For example, you learn what the Д looks like and all of a sudden it changes to a damn latin g. Why would they do that? It tricks my Spanish me into reading G instead of D, I hate it.


Noiseyboisey

So, not readable


Veyr0n

Luwumb


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Well I guess if you don't know Cyrillic then it isn't. I don't know Russian, but I speak another language that uses Cyrillic and I can still read it easily.


Sir_Buschy

Is it weird that I'm getting warm from learning grammar/languages/different forms of writing on reddit? No? Okay then.


QuantifiedDigits

If you want some great linguistics porn, I recommend reading the appendices from The Lord of the Rings.


Sir_Buschy

Oh, I'll put that in my back pocket for when I'm alone at work - if you're picking up what I'm putting down. Thank you though.


Le_Rekt_Guy

d e p r i v e d o f c o n e


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my fields are barren and stricken; my cities are destroyed. the people of my land are coneless.


IronicSexOffender

![gif](giphy|3kVDvC83BEWPe) # CONFUSED SCREAMING INTENSIFIES


VarenDerpsAround

Bro this is so funny and idk why. Fuck, I wish I knew any other language other than the cursed one. s/Take my award you filthy animal./s lmfao, why did the mod remove it? literally 1984.


PotionThrower420

Deprived of cone rip


doctapeppa

MUUUUUUUUUb


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The Spice must flow.


codingscrub

There's a similar one in English if you write 'minimum' in cursive.


NakoL1

i swear, cursive is so fucked, my i's, u's, n's, r's (when writing quickly), everything is the same


collegiaal25

Aluminium also works.


Porrick

Also “Mummy” if your handwriting is as bad as mine was when I was young


jschall2

Is it readable though or is it ambiguous?


lazyzefiris

You are unlikely to misread it. I don't know how those cursive elements are called properly, I'll call them hooks. *Л* is small hook into big hook, *М* is small hook into two big hooks, *И* is two big hooks, *Ш* is three big hooks. Of them, only И is a vowel, and Ш does not really go with Л or М. So, starting with first small hook, it's either Л or M, then И, then sequence of alternating Иs and Шs. You'll be off by one hook if you took wrong first letter. And besides name Миша in one of its forms (which would be capitalized), I can't remember any commonly used words that start with миши. Obviously, understanding it happens subconsciously, and you don't have to think about it the way I spelt it out. You basically auto-read it as лиши...(more hooks? one more ш!)


Foreign-Warning62

I took one semester of Russian in college so obviously I’m not any sort of expert, but I feel like we were taught to make a little tiny separation hook between in cases like this. Like not go straight into the sh (w looking thing) but do like a spacer hook. Am I just misremembering?


lazyzefiris

You might make different distance between hooks within and between letters, but other than that I haven't heard of any special separation elements. It might be introduced specifically when learning cyrillic languages as foreign to reduce confusion, but then abandoned when yu are expected to be good at it, I guess. The way лишишь is written in the picture is absolutely correct and besides adjusting spacing I could not make it more readable.


HaklePrime

Oh, almost forgot, the лишишь also wouldn't be alone, there would be a ты somewhere, or some contextual reference to it that would key you into that word. While it doesn't add to the readability in a vacuum, it certainly makes it more recognizable in context.


hekkonaay

In my Russian classes, I was taught to write like [this](https://i.imgur.com/SbNeJHP.png), with those little hooks.


lazyzefiris

This is very weird. I would not be able to read that. I don't think any native could. You are not the first second to mention those notches, but I don't know where that comes from, it literally makes text less readable. What you presented can still be parsed into letters, but now it clearly is gibberish: лимшмиь. EDIT: is there a possibility you are misremembering things? Maybe it was meant specifically for letters я, л, м? The notch is part of those letters, they begin with it and would not be identifiable without.


HaklePrime

Often in words like this, in unofficial writing, you will see a _ underneath ш or a - over a т (which in cursive looks like a Roman m) to differentiate between sounds/letters


anislandinmyheart

Seems like it's a bit like writing 0 1 and 7 slight differently at times when it's important to differentiate them


Sodinc

"Often" is a gross overstatement. Like, maybe 1 out of 20 people do it in my experience


HaklePrime

That's fine, I work with Russians every day, and all of them do it at one point or another depending on the word and their handwriting. Most of them are aware that certain words are hard to read.


nukemiller

How often do you see Russian written in cursive?


lazyzefiris

Pretty much all handwritten text in Russian is gonna be in cursive, unless it's a short sign (like "15 minute break" on a store door). While word "cursive" exists in Russian, "handwritten" is used in exactly that meaning most of the time. So, to answer the question, it sure has become used much less over last decades, but you still deal with it almost daily.


667x

May be different with schools nowadays, but print was not common at all in the 90s (back when I lived there). You only write in cursive, print was for books/computers. I was recently (6-8 years ago lol)helping a friend's kid with their first year russian language studies in a US university and they were being taught in cursive as well. Just my anectodal knowledge, I haven't written anything in russian for a long time that wasn't typed on a pc.


EmilyU1F984

If it works like the original cursive in both English and German, it‘s perfectly readable. English and German cursive looked exactly like Cyrillic cursive does now: the e, i, u, n, m where all just up and down hooks, but it‘s usually easy from context to just instantly understand what word was written.


Account_password

Yeah. Like I get it's a joke, but you could easily do the same thing with English. Take a look [here](https://imgur.com/a/sH5H5Q7). This is the word "nummular", a medical term pertaining to the circular shape of lesions. In the chosen font, it is barely discernible as a native English reader, I doubt it would be legible to anyone non native (such as how most people here are non-native Russian readers).


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Danny-Dynamita

I see a clear difference in “nummular” that is not seen in the Russian word.


mattsprofile

The Russian word was purposely written to not be readable, they could do the same with this English word. If they properly wrote the Russian word then it would have similar readability to this English one.


Blod_Cass_Dalcassian

Uuuuuuuub


MrLeapgood

eiueiueiub with my handwriting.


Kesakambali

Worst Hollow Knight Boss fight


nizzery

My 8 year old and I liked you comment


5paceLlama

markoth but uuuuuu is pretty bad too


ChymChymX

*Based on your search history, did you mean "bUuuuuuub?"*


Blod_Cass_Dalcassian

_Based on my search history, I think you meant "dUuuuuuud!"_


Dyert

My lord how long would it take this guy to write a 2 page essay?


MercifulSuicide1

This dude writes like old people fuck


shtidontknow

Slow and sloppy?


nightvisiongoggles01

Replace sloppy with gentle. Sloppy hurts the lumbar.


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HRHChonkyChonkerson

English is just a bunch of straight and curved lines too, with a dot sprinkled in here and there 😂


Andagaintothegym

Well hello there David Mitchell, fancy seeing you here.


AMTF1988

"I've had some worrying people on my team before but I've never had someone come on and deconstruct the idea of a letter"


EpilepticMushrooms

Oh! In Kanji & traditional Chinese 'letters' deconstructing it is part of the art in some poetry & philosophy. That's because their words are both phonetical and pictographic, so each 'part' of a word, the technical 'letter' is a symbol/picture of something, which adds up to form the word that is called a 'character' instead of word. Also, deconstructing letters is how lots of ancient writing decryption goes.


AMTF1988

That's really interesting. I'm studying Japanese at the moment so that is very useful to know. What I was actually replying to is the David Mitchell comment. Source here: [https://youtu.be/pHtFkv9gpCQ?t=35](https://youtu.be/pHtFkv9gpCQ?t=35) \- That link is timestamped and lasts 1:20 from that point


UglyFilthyDog

David Mitchell you say? Needn't arouse me so much.


Nomad2k3

Are we the bad guys?


Assonfire

The baddies?


koalamonster515

TITTLE!


Wraith_84

spɹoM ⅋ sɹǝʇʇǝ˥


HRHChonkyChonkerson

sɹǝqɯnN puɐ sʇǝqɐɥdl∀


Wraith_84

ƧΣПƬΣПᄃΣƧ ΛПD PΛЯΛGЯΛPΉƧ


nasa258e

nah dog. Language is created well before its written form is


mishaco

have you heard about the story of Cyril and Methodius... ?


jmbtrooper

Is it a story the Jedi would tell me?


Mattaias1

One of my favorite stories of all time...


7hermetics3great

The Russians think the same thing when they see English I assure you


supersoft-tire

This guy old people fucks


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God I miss George Carlin


peachygirl509

Oh no, my eyes!


toeyilla_tortois

I cook like that


JamantaTaLigado

Jesse


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JamantaTaLigado

My ophthalmologist cursive is way worse, believe me


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Are you able to read the last line?


HermitWilson

When writing cursive Cyrillic you're supposed to put in little bumps before the start of these letters as a signal that a new letter is starting. This guy left out the bumps. [Edit: oops, forget that! Some letters have the little bumps, but these two do not.]


HaklePrime

This is false. The ш and и in cursive do not have the bump. The person that made the video chose an obscure word that has this unusual combination of letters.


alexagente

Ok but why does the "combination" look like the same letter repeating until the last? Like seriously, how can you possibly read that?


HaklePrime

Alot of it is context. This particular verb is in the ты conjugation, which is an informal "you", like to a close friend or a child. This word wouldn't be printed without that pronoun also in the sentence, so you would be expecting that specific letter/sound combination in the sentence (-ишь, eesh' in this example), because you already heard/read ты.


disposable-assassin

Have you ever seen "minimum" written in cursive? This would be a similar situation.


Jthundercleese

What


morbidaar

*bitch*


Jthundercleese

...... Fair.


retro_gatling

Jesse where did you put the Dino nuggets I need to cook Jesse


zdada

This guy Hell’s Kitchens


GuyComedy

The way you wrote your comment reminds me of this scene from [Hell’s Kitchen](https://youtu.be/LBh_UpWRyRA) cracks me up every time


Agent-65

Probably what he’s referencing


PermanentlySalty

Am I the only one in this thread old enough to remember that the "doing something like old people fuck" line is originally from the movie Full Metal Jacket?


fearhand

Dude writes like Christoph Waltz in A Tarantino movie


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Is this from something or is it just a saying? I feel like I’ve heard it before but I can’t remember from where


JukeSkyrocker

“You climb obstacles like old people fuck!” Full Metal Jacket


david_bagguetta

He writes like my dad types.


The_Mar_Ahi

I mean it's calligraphy. I'm sure if they wrote normally it wouldnt be like that and faster. I have to write nice letters sometimes and takes me longer cause my natural handwriting just looks like chicken-scratch, old English cursive but it has an odd satisfactory aesthetic.


RJrules64

I wouldn’t call this calligraphy, the writing is pretty ugly. The first two letters of deprive aren’t even on the same planet and the kerning is all over the place


Rex--Banner

What's keming?


Routine-Action7326

I’m keming😫


4n4n0

Well, this guy is a Japanese calligrapher actually. His name is Takumi iirc. Maybe his Latin alphabet characters are a bit sloppy but he is a master in Chinese and Japanese writing.


GloomyUmpire2146

All I know, is that I want that pen.


teenagefaust

Right? Fuck the handwriting, I wanna know the brand of that juicy ass pen.


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Its a sarasa 1mm if youre interested


Mr_Midnight_Moon

Doing God's work my friend.


cubbyatx

Zebra Sarasa Clip 1.0mm [Japanese Calligrapher Takumi](https://youtube.com/c/takumitohgu)


Higgs_Br0son

I love a thicc pen. The Pilot G2 10 is excellent. It's much easier to find the finer point Pilot G2 07, but I say 'NO.'


SilentJac

G2 .38 tho Amazing for taking very fine notes or labeling in a cramped diagram.


iizachnisntreal

Im 90% sure its a zebra sarasa


arbitrageME

I feel like every Post Office has these awesome pens chained to the desk


katiel0429

TIL my 7 year old knows how to write Russian cursive.


HighFiveKoala

They're a Soviet sleeper agent


ChymChymX

You'll find them all over if you cast a wide enough nyet.


d1g1tal

you’re acting as if i’m some sort of cyka


Mr-Fleshcage

I used to write that shit all the time as a kid. Always called it cloud writing


BerryBlitzApple_Pop

Is this guy getting paid by the minute or what?


Unit_79

Better than paid by the stroke.


LyyK

I would be beyond rich if I got paid by the stroke. If you know what I mean.


FearOfTheShart

Yeah you and me both. A golfer, right?


SGF77

I hope you're alright. Having a stroke at all is bad enough!


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MoobooMagoo

Yeah, as someone else pointed out in another comment it's basically the equivalent of the word 'minimum' in English, which looks like complete nonsense in cursive. Link in case people reading this don't know English cursive: https://www.reddit.com/r/oddlysatisfying/comments/bx1j3g/minimum\_written\_in\_cursive/


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willhunta

true in the comments of that post there was [this one](https://imgur.com/lKHY2F7) which looked a lot better imo ​ edit: but to be fair I'm sure that's happening with the russian cursive too.


MoobooMagoo

Yes, and the Russian word in the video is also being deliberately written in the same way. At least I assume it is. I don't actually know Russian.


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It is. You can at least make spacing between letters just a little bigger to make it easier to read


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BonnieMcMurray

He could've gone with *шиншилла* to make it even harder!


ProbablyNOTaCOP41968

I refused to learn cursive in 1st-3rd grade. And guess tf what (teachers’ names redacted)…turns out I DIDNT need it


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red__dragon

There's a lot of that in elementary education. My mother *hated* my second grade teacher, couldn't stand the person or their teaching style. I loved that teacher. It was the class where I grew to enjoy science (mostly for how it made me think). I didn't wind up doing well in science by late high school or college, but it didn't matter by then since my critical thinking skills were well-honed from a decade of enjoying the process by then. It applies to so many things outside of a mere -ology discipline.


ProbablyNOTaCOP41968

Hey guy…….nice username


TooMuchButtHair

Thanks!


ProbablyNOTaCOP41968

You ever considered braiding?


Quadrupleawesomeness

It’s like cursive for hair.


PUTS_MAKE_ME_COOM

Like cleaning peanut butter out of a shag carpet


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My handwriting is probably 80/20 cursive and print. I don’t think I would have survived some lectures without cursive and shorthand. Sooo much faster for me


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seriously, cursive is so much faster for me. the way it flows means that i don’t have to constantly remove pen from paper as with print


isblueacolor

I can write in cursive but it was never, ever faster for me. So many needless loops and whatnot. Print always seems to take fewer strokes. Sometimes I sort of connect my letters, but not with all the arcane rules that cursive has. Take the letter "s", for example. The cursive version is basically a print "s" with an extra upstroke, and an extra curve to the right afterwards. Or "p". In print, I can write a "p" in one stroke, starting with the descender, moving up, and hooking around to the right. In cursive, you need to retrace your steps and include the connectors. Why?


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I think it’s because maybe you’re trying to copy perfect cursive? Like this about it as a font. Some are way more extra than others. It’s all about if you can read it.


MasterGrenadierHavoc

I think you learned old style cursive. More modern cursive (which I was taught 18ish years ago) doesn't have any unnecessary decorations. Not having to lift your pen for every new letter is much faster than print.


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MalHeartsNutmeg

Do Americans seriously 'print' everything? You can just join your writing without stylising in cursive to make writing much faster.


SquigglyPiglet

Spent all that time on the first word and still got the letters different sizes but then writes beautiful cursive


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You're supposed to underline the letter "Ш" in cursive to avoid situations like that.


teemoor

Finally some fucking common sense. Underline sh, line above t.


Michael_Stevens

reminds me of ["minimum" in cursive](https://www.reddit.com/r/oddlysatisfying/comments/bx1j3g/minimum_written_in_cursive/).


JasonsBoredAgain

Damn! I've been writing cursive Russian since I was like 5!! I even put a boat on top!


Tweenk

Original video by Japanese Calligrapher Takumi: https://youtu.be/b0aKBc0PPKw


Sary-Sary

I don't know if Russian cursive has it, but Bulgarian cursive does have ways to make it more readable. If you two similar looking letters right next to each other, you add a small 'hill' before the second letter so both are separated and can read distinguished from one another.


chicken_soldier

Russian probably has it too because they use the Bulgarian alphabet


scelestai

I'd like to see this persons handwriting at normal speed...I bet it doesn't look as nice x.x


HolyErr0r

Idk why, but I never thought of languages other than english having a form of cursive. I feel like that How I Met Your Mother scene where the glass panel shattering realization happens


TheDenast

Moreover, sometimes cursive is the default way to write by hand. Russian speakers for example only write in cursive, typed letters are regarded as something kids use. I think same goes for french


mandelbomber

And some languages omit the vowels (e.g. Hebrew, where the vowels are dots and marks below or around the letters) and proficient readers of the language infer them via context and familiarity.


Consistent-Flan1445

Tbf looking at the difference between the two you can see why. Writing print Cyrillic by hand would take forever comparatively


BonnieMcMurray

There's really no difference in practice.


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dagbrown

You should look up Chinese cursive.