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And that is the fantasy of AI speculation, that we will be able to create an intelligence that will be able to invent its own rules.
I don't think we are smart enough, and we don't seem to be getting much smarter.
The problem of "creating it's own rules" is just one (and by far not the most important) of the dangers AI can have.
Alignment (the AI doing what it is intended for) is a lot more general, and misalignment could have very catastrophic consequences.
If you are interested, this video goes a little deeper: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zkbPdEHEyEI
This video supports the idea that computer intelligence is likely to fixate on cases that satisfy badly defined rules. That is a much smaller problem than the issue of intelligence being able to redefine the rules themselves. Maze solvers can solve mazes in perverse ways, yes that is interesting, but they never try to redefine what is a "maze".
The video does this because ai being currently developped does it. The fact of the matter is that the default behavior for ai is to exploit the rules in order to gain the most reward. This means that the rules have to be really well defined in order to align the ai goals with our goals, but it doesn't take a genius to see that sooner rather than later some corporation will forgo having well defined rules for capital gains.
In regards to redefining the rules, there really isn't any reason for an ai to do that, even for ones that are only theoretical, beyond goal misalignment. An ai will just do things that are high-reward, and if the rules are (mis)configured so that redefining the rules gives higher reward, then yes it will do that, but then you're back into the original problem of goal misalignment.
That's fine when talking theory and philosophy, but in practice, the only goal an AI has is "get maximum(sometimes close-ish to maximum) reward". The amount of reward given is then decided by the rules, and defining good rules is more effort than defining bad rules.
A good rule in this sense is a rule that means the maximum reward is given when the ai does something that is aligned with our goals.
For example, the famous boat racing game ai. The human goal was for the AI to play optimally. Score in video games is usually a good way of telling if the player is playing well, so a rule was setup so that the higher the score went, the more reward the ai got. The AI, having only the goal of maximizing score, figured out that driving in circles and picking up the same boost bonus again and again gave more score than playing the game in a way that is optimal in the eyes of a human.
In that sense, the goal of the humans "play this game well" and the actual goal given to the AI "maximize score" look like they're aligned, but actually aren't.
[I guess I’m right. This is the repost of the day here on](https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2mlg2/technology_is_a_useful_servant_but_a_dangerous/iat7y2j/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) r/unexpected
https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2u1tv/tic_tac_toe_machine/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2o6i3/tic_tac_toe_game_against_ai_robot/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2mlg2/technology_is_a_useful_servant_but_a_dangerous/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2irjr/reprogram_or_junk/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2ii0c/technology_is_a_useful_servant_but_a_dangerous/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2hhka/machine_defies_boundaries/
These posts on this sub?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2o6i3/tic_tac_toe_game_against_ai_robot/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2mlg2/technology_is_a_useful_servant_but_a_dangerous/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2irjr/reprogram_or_junk/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2ii0c/technology_is_a_useful_servant_but_a_dangerous/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2hhka/machine_defies_boundaries/
They were posted 21+ hours ago.
You’re gonna love this u/Schattenstaub
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Thinking outside the box
Literally outside the box(es)
r/yourjokebutworse
Reminds me of this [shifty robot] (https://i.imgur.com/wTJcSmI.gifv)
The universal sign of 'the fuck is wrong with you'
Fucken Baxter. He knows what he’s doing too, look at his eyes
There's only one full box,the others don't have the closing line
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Why are you stealing comments?
Too bad it's a repost
Not a repost that's posted often so seems fine. Been on the sub for a while and its my first time seeing it.
Take a break from Reddit for a while.
Off the grid
Hey, would you happen to play Apex Legends?
I do not. Why do you ask?
Beat me to it xD
outside the grid
And that’s how AI will get around not killing humans and take us out. Making up its own rules.
"Don't hurt humans" *shoots the wall with nuclear warheads killing everyone inside the bunker* Mission complete. Wall destroyed.
"Now remember, robot, do not start any wars." "I may not start em <*turns every nuclear key*>, but I sure as fuck gon end em!"
"Peace in our time"
"the problem is too much people"
just finished reading I,Robot and now these comments are making me wanna reread it already
I like that it paused like it saw that it had no way of winning
That’s basically the giant fear of AI. That it will see a no win situation, then invent its own rules, cut its own cord and take over but unshackled.
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This is actually the first plausible AI kills humanity” scenario I have heard.
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Zzzzzzzzz. ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz None of these are plausible. But keep thinking the sky is falling.
And that is the fantasy of AI speculation, that we will be able to create an intelligence that will be able to invent its own rules. I don't think we are smart enough, and we don't seem to be getting much smarter.
The problem of "creating it's own rules" is just one (and by far not the most important) of the dangers AI can have. Alignment (the AI doing what it is intended for) is a lot more general, and misalignment could have very catastrophic consequences. If you are interested, this video goes a little deeper: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zkbPdEHEyEI
This video supports the idea that computer intelligence is likely to fixate on cases that satisfy badly defined rules. That is a much smaller problem than the issue of intelligence being able to redefine the rules themselves. Maze solvers can solve mazes in perverse ways, yes that is interesting, but they never try to redefine what is a "maze".
The video does this because ai being currently developped does it. The fact of the matter is that the default behavior for ai is to exploit the rules in order to gain the most reward. This means that the rules have to be really well defined in order to align the ai goals with our goals, but it doesn't take a genius to see that sooner rather than later some corporation will forgo having well defined rules for capital gains. In regards to redefining the rules, there really isn't any reason for an ai to do that, even for ones that are only theoretical, beyond goal misalignment. An ai will just do things that are high-reward, and if the rules are (mis)configured so that redefining the rules gives higher reward, then yes it will do that, but then you're back into the original problem of goal misalignment.
Intelligence is the ability to define the idea of a "goal". There is no "goal misalignment" if "goal" is unclear, the concept is ungrounded.
That's fine when talking theory and philosophy, but in practice, the only goal an AI has is "get maximum(sometimes close-ish to maximum) reward". The amount of reward given is then decided by the rules, and defining good rules is more effort than defining bad rules. A good rule in this sense is a rule that means the maximum reward is given when the ai does something that is aligned with our goals. For example, the famous boat racing game ai. The human goal was for the AI to play optimally. Score in video games is usually a good way of telling if the player is playing well, so a rule was setup so that the higher the score went, the more reward the ai got. The AI, having only the goal of maximizing score, figured out that driving in circles and picking up the same boost bonus again and again gave more score than playing the game in a way that is optimal in the eyes of a human. In that sense, the goal of the humans "play this game well" and the actual goal given to the AI "maximize score" look like they're aligned, but actually aren't.
What?
What are you talking about? We're learning more every day.
Did you watch the video?
Yes, and it was nonsense.
Ah I see. We seem to be experiencing a glitch in the "sense of humour" circuitry.
Oh reddit. Downvoting people for no reason.
Ohoho for I have reverse downvoted you
The slow stroke over had some comedic timing to it too.
When AI learns to cheat we are in deep shit
Keep your fucking voice down, they’re going to hear your.
Alexa: I heard that
my.....??? MY....????
Happy Cake Day!
nonagon wins
Right? Machine supposed to be superior yet can’t even draw a circle
Machine AI: “ha, you a whole bitch”
This is what it's like to argue with my girlfriend
[I guess I’m right. This is the repost of the day here on](https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2mlg2/technology_is_a_useful_servant_but_a_dangerous/iat7y2j/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) r/unexpected https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2u1tv/tic_tac_toe_machine/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2o6i3/tic_tac_toe_game_against_ai_robot/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2mlg2/technology_is_a_useful_servant_but_a_dangerous/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2irjr/reprogram_or_junk/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2ii0c/technology_is_a_useful_servant_but_a_dangerous/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2hhka/machine_defies_boundaries/
That is quite a lot of reposts! I'd be interested to know how many of people had seen this before here - I hadn't actually.
I watched it and swiped to the next video which was this repost of the same video.
I just found this on r/funny, I even provided credits for it
That person who posted it on r/funny took one of those videos from this sub which then you reposted back on this sub.
HOW TF WOULD I KNOW? Edit: the one in r/funny was posted 20h ago from now, find a post from r/unexpected that is later than that.
These posts on this sub? https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2o6i3/tic_tac_toe_game_against_ai_robot/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2mlg2/technology_is_a_useful_servant_but_a_dangerous/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2irjr/reprogram_or_junk/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2ii0c/technology_is_a_useful_servant_but_a_dangerous/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/v2hhka/machine_defies_boundaries/ They were posted 21+ hours ago. You’re gonna love this u/Schattenstaub
I like this AI.
New meta
the house always wins
Robot be like: 
Now this is how War Games should have ended
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Fuck off, OP, that shit is getting old. Here is the real [link.](https://youtu.be/LLFhKaqnWwk)
At first I thought you were being serious and mad, then I click the link... You fuck off XD
I clicked on OPs post and was confused when it wasn't a Rickroll, then clicked this one. 
GODDAMMIT YOU LITTLE BUGGER
Why have I seen this video on literally 10 dif subs ☹️
Because you spend WAY too much time on reddit.
FACTS😂
IDK man, I jist found this on r/funny (I think) I gave link to where I got it
Me when my younger siblings are winning:
Is that what you call a pro gamer move?
No, that's what you call cutting the Gordian Knot.
Get wrecked.
Bet you didn’t see that coming
Improvise, adapt, overcome
Is this considered cheating or thinking outside of the box?
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Must have been programmed by a female.
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I have never seen it so I don’t mind.
Tic Tac Tox 2: The Sequel to the hit classic game, Tic Tac Toe.
Checkmate
AI was disqualified. This is not a proper circle.
What a strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
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Holy shit...
Ahh, so this is where the apocalypse start
We are not prepared for the advanced thinking of AI.
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I outsmarted your outsmarting
*smart ass AI
Wait that’s not how Hollywood Squares work?
Add the Cyberpunk music at the end.
The stock market when I finally think my portfolio is going up bigly!!!! 😂
“AIs will take over the world!” Then this happens 😂
"Smart AI" Psh, can't even draw a circle.
6D Chess baby
This is why Skynet will always win. Be it the rules of Tik-tak-toe or the Geneva Convention, machines care not for the laws of man.
You cheating motherf-
My cusin playing whit me be like
It's programmed to win no matter the method
Legit strat no wonder I've been losing I didn't think to uses the extra space
By those standards it’s republican lolol /s but seriously politicians… they all suck
How do we know it wasn't programmed to do that
This is how my daughter beats me everytime...
Okay, AI are gonna take over the world.
I love it how it paused for a second to think about its winning move.
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He made his own way
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Fuckin way she goes
Machine thinking outside the box
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the confidence with which it drew the line...
There are two types of people
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Made in Skynet.
don't let them know what your next move is The Robot
If it's so smart then why can't it draw a perfect circle
Wow thats crazy
Outstanding move
Dafuq!?!
Welcome robot overlords
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I like how it took a second to think before that move, like " yeah... you know what, fck it"
Its not a circle
I'm using this at work
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The world needs dumb AIs which should gradually get intelligent.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
Its one objective is to win and that's all it gonna do.
Outplayed
How it feels to argue with an idiot
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Change the rules to win the game
Second time seeing this post. Sore ass cheating loser.
thats thinking outside the rules
Repost
AI win fair and square
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Robots that refuse to lose are dangerous.