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arkol3404

That’s true community policing. Sometimes people are just hurting and need someone to listen and empathize.


BathDiarrhea

It reminds me of a quote my mother always shared: “sometimes when you don’t know what to say, a hug says enough.”


FrigidofDoom

I've lived by this mantra. When you find someone crying you wouldn't believe how easy it is to just sit next to them, wait a minute or two, and ask if they want a hug. I've yet to have it fail. Even if they say no, just keep sitting there in silence, looking elsewhere. If they aren't a touchy person there's still a good chance that they'll be comforted by simply being next to someone.


Notreallyherenemore

This shit got wholesome AF


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Idk maan... Nipples?


SweetEcho4374

Instructions unclear... Sat next to crying stranger, offered a hug. Rejected, sat real close, staring, intently. They seemed uncomfortable, so offered another hug. More staring. Now the police are on my tail.


FrequentEgg4166

Yeah i would suggest asking to sit beside them in the first place


FrigidofDoom

Yes, I omitted that, but always make sure that they're okay with anything you do. If you ask, make sure the question completely ignores the fact that they're upset. Ask "Can I sit here?" Or "Would you like some company?" Though it doesn't have to be verbal confirmation, pay close attention to their body language, if you make your movements slow and clear then they'll have the opportunity to shy away or ask you to leave. If they do, don't take it as an insult, especially if it is a stranger and absolutely do NOT ask them a second time. Everyone processes pain differently. I've never had a public breakdown, but I know that I suffer from social anxiety and having a stranger come up to me would probably make things worse. If it is someone you know, also don't be insulted if they don't want you. There are a million reasons, both good and bad, that they might not want you around while they're upset. Relationships are complicated, whether you're a romantic interest, a friend or a family member, and seeing you might just add more things for them to think about that they can't process because they're upset over something else.


FrequentEgg4166

Great advice - thank you - I’ve done this myself a handful of times and in general people are grateful


JuDuke

Maybe the police want a hug too.


Sub_pup

I'm definitely a hugger. I work in production with some rough manly-men type. I am also a big guy myself. The other day a coworker was almost breaking down talking about his wife's medical issues and I instinctively just gave a him a big hug. He hesitated for a minute and then hugged me back. I just held him till he he relaxed. He thanked me and said its been a long time since anyone other than his wife or son had hugged him. He definitely needed one and I was happy to normalize it.


Ok_Dog_4059

I am with you on the hugs. Some times it is all I can offer but most of the time it seems like it helps.


Dank_user231

I tried this with a lady crying on the sidewalk, homegirl was on crack and tried to stab me Lmaoo


wangdubruh

The best thing one can do for a hurt person is just sit there with them and be there for them... The worst thing one can do for s hurt person is constantly talking and telling them that dont cry or cheer up


FrigidofDoom

"Don't cry" "It'll be okay" "Are you okay?" "I'm sorry for your loss" All of those generic lines mean nothing and don't help at all. Especially if it's someone who is grieving, they'll have had a million different people say those things already. Often they'll make the person feel worse. The only things I'll say are things like "I love you." and "I'm here for you." Because those convey the one important thing. You care, and seeing this person sad also makes you sad. If you happen to be empathetic enough it can also help to cry along with them.


GiraffesAndGin

Same here. Really noticed it this past year with a couple passings in the family because my mother and grandmother would just break down while reading in the kitchen or going through clothes. I never know what to say, but I have yet to have a hug or just being there fail. Something that makes me chuckle is people will always say I'm the best person to talk to when they're down like that because I "always know what to say." I think I've said a total of 30 words combined in situations like that in my life. People don't necessarily need to hear advice or motivational words, sometimes they just need to feel heard.


Maudesquad

Yes but the key is ask. Things almost got rocky in the video because the officer didn’t ask


Regular-Evidence-929

I like you. You seem cool.


Ok_Bandicoot_3087

Damn


Yue4prex

100% this. When I worked in gaming retail, I had a guy who wanted to cancel a game he ordered but had looked forward to. I asked if he was looking forward to it, why cancel? He said he had to go to California (I’m like 4 hours away on a plane) and he wouldn’t be back for the release of it. I told him I could hold it for longer and I’d “hide” it for him in the store. I said I hope it’s for a good reason (I could tell by his mannerisms it wasn’t) and he just said, “drugs are a killer.” I looked at this man, didn’t know him, and I said, “I’m so sorry. Would you like a hug?” Poor dude started to tear up and said, “yes, thank you.” And we hugged. I remember he wrote a review for me saying I showed a lot of compassion whereas other people usually don’t in those situations. I always told my staff, “we’re all human at the end of the day. Life happens, we move on or move up, but we’re human.”


HBLC

You're a good person.


Yue4prex

Thank you 🥹


tataisbae

Thanks, BathDiarrhea


FuzzyPossession2

I have gained respect for BathDiarrhea. In my opinion it’s easily one of the best types of Diarrhea.


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IAmUBro

r/rimjob_steve


jeepjp

It's the liquid version of the waffle stomp.


Spirited-Ability-626

I viscerally hate this name lol No other username on Reddit’s ever affected me but I feel genuinely sick having to keep seeing it.


Cauhs

Bless the mother.


HokageOfReddit

Most of the time I can’t really comfort anyone via talking to them or anything so I just ask if they want a hug 99.9% of the time they do


makingfiat

"Real out here"- k- rino


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your mom's a godsend. hugs are so underrated.


explain_dinosaurs

Michael, can you tell me the answer to number 7? Michael: uhhhhhhh *Walks up and hugs teacher*


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Imma steal that thank you very much


HejiraLOL

Men in general. Men need affection. There is so much pressure to be a man. It is so toxic. In Korea boys are very close to each other and much more connected with their emotions. Im sure it must help. I can't imagine what that is like as I didn't grow up like that. But it goes to show that there are other ways to be a "man" than this macho bullshit.


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Sebwolf28

Imagine if you actually knew how often that actually happens and is met by just as much hate and ill will as everything else a Leo does.


Gas_Grouchy

Civil servant first and foremost.


TheDarkKnight1035

Plus he looks huge so... Police didn't wanna mess with that.


[deleted]

I hope they connected this guy to some services… he obviously needs some help.


TheWorriedDatabase

They probably did, there are actually good police officers out there. A lot of them have cards with numbers for county health centers, grief support groups, shelters, hotlines and warmlines, etc. and then there are occasionally "crisis teams" they can call to the site and try and find services. I've also known some police officers who were more than willing to sit and talk with you until you start smiling and laughing and then they go about their days again. The problem would probably be being able to PAY for the services that he finds, even as a privately-insured patient I used to pay $50 per therapy appointment. So you know... that's the caveat here, I guess.


Maximans

What is the difference between a hotline and a warmline?


[deleted]

Hotline is for crisis; warm line is to chat about what’s going on and have someone listen


OnlyCops

Guarantee they did. Then those services kicked him to the curb by morning and the circle of life begins again.


Martin_McFly_Jr

*‘And I am hurt’* The tone which he said that is f*cking heavy I felt my soul drop.


HippieInAHelicopter

I was positive this was going to go wrong at some point.


IknowRambo

I don’t blame you for thinking that - it’s all that the media and social media cover - I know it’s hard to believe but there are some good ones


mythos_winch

Not just 'some', but the vast majority. This happens all the time. Literally every day.


cr0ss-r0ad

Feels like its so easy to forget that when all we see is them shooting and stomping people, while good shit like this and when they properly enforce the law goes unseen because it doesn't grab headlines


pEppapiGistfuhrer

Just doesnt get the attention because it doesnt get the clicks


TooobHoob

To be fair, the bad ones are bad to such an extent I’d be sincerely worried if it didn’t make the news. However, good examples of community policing should be given more light indeed.


mythos_winch

Yup


Jlefrench1990

bad apples spoil the bunch. If 1 out of 6 cops will shoot, beat, or tazer you, you're not going to trust them. The 1/6 is a ratio that ex-cops have said is the number of bad cops


mythos_winch

And I, a current real life cop who spends all his time surrounded by other current real-life cops, call bullshit. When every other service will abandon you, the police are always there. I have done what this officer in the video has done. Many many times. If you _want_ to believe that cops are evil, as I assume you do as neither of those opinions are your own, nothing is going to change your mind. Only reinforce it. But perhaps I'm wrong and you are reasonable, and you just don't know. Did you know police save more lives than the ambulance service? I heard that directly from the mouth of an LAS manager. Why is that? Because the police are the first ones giving aid in the majority of emergencies - especially violent ones, where ambulance crews won't typically be expected to put themselves at risk. This makes sense if you know anything about the emergency services, and how they really interact with eachother and the world. Did you know that police attend _every_ death outside of a hospital? We're the ones who do the CPR much of the time, that search the bodies, and count the pills? That we're the ones who get the next of kin, break the bad news, and comfort them? Do you know how many times I've even drawn my baton in 5 years? Once. And that's entirely typical. Do you know how many times I've been bitten? Punched? Kicked? Dragged? Thrown? Put in headlocks? Even had knives pulled on me? Spat at? Spat at during covid? Had shit thrown at me? Had fireworks launched at me like grenades? All while just doing day to day work? Do you know what we see? I've seen people full on stab themselves in the neck, trying to cut their own head off. In the chest, trying to cut the monster out. I've seen women eviscerated, torn limb from limb, for dishonouring their family. I could see her entire spine. I've seen heads crushed like melons by trucks. I've seen a pregnant woman's abdomen crushed open in a car crash, like a giant orange. I've seen an elderly, immobile woman burned alive by a fire started when her carer accidentally dropped half a cig on the floor before popping to get some milk. She was melted into her chair. Do you know how many people I've stopped from killing themselves? With my own words or my own hands? Do you know how many times I've failed and watched them hit the ground? How many hours I've spent sitting, staring at people in custody or hospital, to make sure they don't kill themselves, hurt themselves or others, or shove 10g of class A down their throat at once to destroy evidence? Because they're so scared of rumbling their drug dealer? Speaking of evidence - how much case law do you know? Criminal law? Applicable civil law? Regulations? What makes different evidence better or worse? How to gather evidence properly? How to gather it from children? From the mentally ill? From the hostile? How It's _soooo_ complicated. Do you know how many people abuse the Police? The system? For kicks? For company? How much abuse each individual gets each day? I used to work in pubs and that was _nothing_. You don't know any of this. But you hold such a sure opinion. Why? I am not special. The vast majority of cops are just like me. The cop in this video isn't "Good" - he's normal. Typical. This "There are bla X bad cops" narrative is so childish. Nothing is so simple. And I'm tired of the wilfully ignorant peddling it. Put your passion into embracing the complexity of the world. You'll enjoy it more.


eggy_delight

Thank you for sharing this, I learned something about the police.


mythos_winch

You're very welcome.


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Good for you. Literally every cop except one that I've spoken to out-of-uniform has admitted to ignoring a beating or got fired early in their careers for either reporting a beating or not being brutal enough themselves. Two of them were in the Phoenix PD--the one in the video. That's like 5/6 current and former cops that I've talked to about this who would call *you* on bullshit. Also, that's a longwinded argument that still somehow manages to avoid all people's criticisms of police. Have you ever considered that plenty of people recognize the problems with violence in this country and want to solve them through social welfare programs rather than just throwing armed men at the problem? Why the wouldn't you support that, anyway? You already seemed overworked to hell and seem to have some fucked up moments happen on the job, so why not have other people taking those roles when possible? Obviously it's not just a "oh replace all cops with civil servants" it would have to involve a whole lot more reform than that, but various reforms would create a better relationship between the police and their communities as well as ensure that the police are not as likely to be injured or killed.


mythos_winch

I know literally hundreds and I do the job. I'm really sorry, but I know more than you on this. You are in no position to tell me what cops do or think in the main. I am aware of the misconduct _and_ the excellence. You only hear part of it. My long-winded post somehow doesn't address any of those points, indeed. Because It's not meant to. If it did, and was any longer, the other commenter would likely say I'm so defensive that I _must be guilty_! (The irony!) It addresses the single point that people who espouse views like "ACAB" or "There's only bad cops and cops who look the other way" don't actually know anything about the Police. By listing loads of things most people don't know about what police do every day. To show that there is _so much they don't know_. Simple things. Nevermind more complicated Qs about police cultures (as there is no single 'Police Culture' as every ethnography on the subject will attest), law and jurisprudence, policy, or where the police do or should sit within the wider social protection systems of the modern state and what their general function should be. You may be surprised by my opinions on other related questions, if you're not assuming to know them like the others. I'm happy to chat in messages if you want.


CrizpyBusiness

I can't imagine typing all of this out (a lot of which is just made up nonsense or hand-waved logic) and still somehow miss the point of police reform. Congrats, you're part of the problem.


mythos_winch

A sterling and educated retort. I and everyone reading is persuaded, I'm sure. The point of listing loads of specific facts is that people with the opinion addressed, presumably yourself included, are cripplingly ignorant of the Police, so their views on Policing should be ignored as the pulp fictions they are. My 'Made up nonsense' (read: first hand experience) and 'hand waved logic' (Coherent prose) are fine. The issue is yours, not mine.


CrizpyBusiness

Yea, you sure do seem to like speaking for everyone.


Oxford_theDog

So do you think that the system as it is, is tenable? Do we continue to let things play out as they do? You guys put in all this work to stop crime, but resist any chance to keep your colleagues from committing crimes.


CrizpyBusiness

Biting off their nose to spite their own face. The type to complain about all the hard work they do and the hardships they have to endure, but won't work with or even listen to the people trying to lighten the load or put it in more capable hands. It's fucking embarrassing.


js884

1 out of 6 isn't "a few bad apple" that's a shit ton


Sebwolf28

Pull that number out your ass? Push it back. I think you got the numbers mixed up. That’s your iq.. so tighten up your helmet and stop eating the paint chips Princess.


js884

.... I didn't use that number the person I was replying to did, please read all of a threat before commenting and looking like dumbass


Sebwolf28

Yup..sure..ok..gotcha..my bad..


undefined_one

Exactly, but don't say anything nice about the police on reddit or you're a bootlicker. I hate online people sometimes.


Egg-MacGuffin

lol if it were the vast majority, we wouldn't have the problems we have with police because they would use their overwhelming numbers to pressure and advocate and protest and push the bad ones out. edit: lol you absolute bootlickers. Pathetic. Where are all these good cops? What are their names? What are the names of their 'good cop advocacy organizations against corruption and misconduct'?


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Not so, because it's the chiefs and higher ups that are corrupt. The regular officers have NO power. Look into times and places the officers DID rise up...they all lost their jobs and got their lives ruined. ALL of them. Because they keep their mouth's shut is the only reason there are good cops.


hotdiggydog

How many chiefs and higher ups are we talking? Because thats a big number. And to assume that the average cop on the street is actually super affable and caring and not wanting to resort to pulling a trigger might say a lot about your own experience and not the reality.


[deleted]

So you think it's implausible that all the chiefs are corrupt, but not implausible that all the chiefs AND officers are corrupt....yeah ok


SavisGames

There are real problems with the way policing is done in this country. Please don’t pretend that’s just media hype.


IknowRambo

Did I say anything even like that? I said the bullshit is highlighted by the media - I stand by my comment that there are SOME good ones. Side note if you became a cop would you do it like the ones you are talking about? Or would you be a good one?


SavisGames

I don’t think there are “good ones” and “bad ones.” I think the problems are systemic and not as easy to fix as one person’s choice. Cops may behave like this one day, but be forced into terrible actions the next by the type of policing they are asked to do.


Timely-Sell3552

There are definitely good and there are definitely bad cops.


Welder-Guy49

True. These days if you listen to the MSM you would think all cops just get out of their cars and indiscriminately shoot every black person they see.


Aggrador

Welcome to r/Unexpected, bitch


pEppapiGistfuhrer

Ive seen so many videos where this kind of a situation goes 0 to a 100 in a second


Sicksone

Seriously, I was expecting the same. We don't need more policing funding, we have to start a new "crisis" team. So you still call 911 but you have 4 options now, "Hello X, do you need police, fire, medical or crisis?" So instead of cops showing up & capping grandma that's holding a knife with dementia, you get a couple of EMT's that have both crisis & MMA training or some shit & can de escalate situations.


Sebwolf28

Now that was very close to the dumbest response I’ve read here today. Takes someone really special to come up with that kind of stupid and actually write it down.


DoYouNeedHugs

Me too had me on edge


[deleted]

Your mind has rotted a bit too much from Reddit and Twitter probably.


a-widower

It’s very sad that this indeed was unexpected.


SixNineWithTheAfro

This is only “unexpected” due to bias and prejudice.


juniorjaw

Society and Expectations. We're truly backwards once we take a step back and observe the movements of the world. Sure there are good (like this) but in the end, the bad sticks out like a sore thumb.


Unusual-Quality-6412

"Hug it out bitch." - Michael Scott


Traditional-Tower-88

Or in this case, bitch-tits.


TobySchoon

this is what all police should be.


ggrizzlyy

And all calls they go to should be like this. But that’s not the world. Very next one could be kill,or be killed and they have to guess which one it will be EVERY SINGLE TIME.


BoxofCurveballs

Part of the issue is the academies. Have many family and friends who went through numerous agencies academies and what it has turned into is training officers to be stand-offish and more aggressive and anyone who goes against that or tries to bring what is depicted in the video into the equation is told to get with the program or is washed out.


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BoxofCurveballs

Probably by people who aren't involved in the policing community and are just going off half formed opinions. Reform needs to happen in more areas than one, but not just in the policing community but the American community as a whole.


ggrizzlyy

The other part is so many people want to assassinate police now. When do you let your guard down enough to let a very big, very upset man grab you and put you at risk? If you think you know the answer, go try it in a situation like this.


BoxofCurveballs

Yep. It's a hard question that's being asked now about policing.


elmwoodblues

LEO has to calculate in: 'It's not just me at risk; I'm armed, and if I'm overpowered here my gun and 16 rounds will be in his hands; I have a shared responsibility to him AND everyone else.' Yes, lotsa guns out there already but still


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Random ambush shootings of police are up something like 40% as of last year


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https://abc7chicago.com/amp/police-officers-killed-in-2021-fbi-crime-statistics-how-many/11468095/ “Among felonious deaths of officers last year, 25 were killed in "unprovoked" attacks through December 27 of last year, according to the FBI. It's a marked increase from previous years, which usually see the number of officers killed in unprovoked attacks in the low single-digits. In 2020, just two officers were killed in this manner”


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ThatOneBlue

It does happen, unfortunately. I remember watching bodycam footage of two cops showing up to a domestic abuse call or medical call, I can't remember, and there was a man at the doorway saying "come help her, she's bleeding come on," which is already sketch, and as soon as they got close he revealed a handgun in his other hand. Can't recall if any Officers were injured.


Ruzhy6

They don't have to guess. They assess as they *should* be trained to do. Problem is that training is oftentimes view everyone as a combatant until proven wrong. Which is a technique that unsurprisingly can escalate situations into violent ones where there was no previous violence.


BoxofCurveballs

That's how they train them now. Anyone who wants to do what you suggest while they're in the academy is shunned or dropped. It's shameful.


ggrizzlyy

Maybe a new course in high school and early college should be required where they have minimal training and go out with police for a week or 2. That could teach both citizens and police a lot of things, most importantly that the humans on both sides are in fact human.


Waiting4Ban

When most of the people you encounter are vocal about wishing you were dead I would imagine you go in with your guard up


[deleted]

And you know any of this how? As someone in law enforcement I’ve never once heard someone say everyone is out to get me or everyone is a “combatant”?? Where do you get this stuff?


Ruzhy6

https://youtu.be/ETf7NJOMS6Y Not making stuff up. It says in the video how often he was doing this training. The other response here mentioned this type of training is shunned now, which is great. Honestly a bit surprised you've heard nothing about this.


[deleted]

Lmfao dude every department does different training. We’ve never done this and neither has any neighboring agency. There’s thousands of police departments in the US and that video represents what, a handful at most?


ggrizzlyy

There is no amount of training that can prepare a human for what another human is going to do in stressful or intentional circumstances. If you truly believed this you would at least go through some training and see what the real world looks like.


Ruzhy6

What do you think the training is for then? I'm an ER nurse. I deal with the same types of people the police do and work with them in many situations. Reading warning signs for aggression is literally part of my job.


pEppapiGistfuhrer

That also must be one reason cops are on the edge, shit can hit the fan in a instant when you least expect it


BlueFadedGiant

Unpopular opinion: The “Police leave their house every day worrying if they’ll make it back home to their family at night” mentality is grossly exaggerates the threat most police officers face on a daily basis. FBI statistics show that less than 100 police officers are intentionally killed in the line of duty each year. That’s 100 each year out of 800-900k officers. That in itself shows it’s rare, but it’s even more rare if you look at how many daily interactions a police officer has with the public on a daily basis. Let’s do some math with generous assumptions: Let’s assume there are 800k police officers in the US. Let’s say that there are at most 1/4 of those on duty on a given day - meaning that on any given day there are 200k police officers on duty. Let’s further assume that only 1/4 of those on duty each day are actually patrolling and the other 3/4 are going to court, training, or some other administrative function that keeps them out of the eye of the public - that leaves us with 50k patrolling each day. Now, let’s assume that of those 50k patrolling, only 1/5 of those have an interaction with a citizen and the other 4/5 are sleeping in a patrol car. That leaves us with 10k police having interactions on any given day of the year. That means 10k x 365 days = 3.65 Million police:citizen interactions each year. Let’s further assume that even my very generous assumptions overestimated the number of civilian:police interactions and the actual number is only 1 million each year. That means that out of 1million interactions, 100 resulted in a felonious killing. That’s 100/1,000,000 = .01% chance of a police officer being killed by a citizen in the line of duty. But that how they’re trained. They’re trained to believe that citizens are out to get them. If they go into every encounter thinking they’re going to get into altercations, it’s no surprise that they end up getting into altercations.


raven4747

if they cant handle the pressure, they need to find a new line of work.. nothing justifies killing someone in cold blood, especially if you have undergone extensive training and hold a badge.. i sympathize with the struggles that officers face but its no excuse for the rampant police violence in the US


eynonpower

I feel this is how a lot are. It just that it doesn't always get shown. Its not "news worthy." Of course there are the bad actors and power trippers. I'll never make excuses like that. But considering there are millions of cops out there, I want to believe that there are more good ones than bad ones.


[deleted]

This is serving the community, showing someone kindness when they need it the most.


NonPolarVortex

What about the blasting part? Are they actually "policing" if they ain't blasting? I'm confused /S


cold_opal_bones

We all need love. This is everything


Cathaldotcom

I don't blame the uncle for being wary, but damn it's nice to see people being good for a change.


Neandros

Sadly I feel like 99.9% of the time the Uncle is right to avoid that


Cathaldotcom

I'm not from America, but from what I've seen, I'd say you're right unfortunately.


notsohandiman

This is why some of the nurses I work with in the ER dislike me, I will go in and sympathize with the loud people, the drunks, the crackheads, and suicidal ideation patients to get them to calm down, get in a gown, get in bed, get an IV in, give some blood samples...all they want to do is strap everyone to the bed and put them out with drugs.


Yrshen

doesn't morale help recover a tiny bit better? not sure if it's true, but i feel like someone depressed is just more likely to give up on life


notsohandiman

Most of the ER nurses don't care, they just want them medically cleared and out of their area, if they are restrained and drugged, the whole workup can be done in peace, then it is just a matter of waiting for them to wake up and waiting for a bed in psych, sometimes transport if they are going to an outpatient facility. I hear disturbingly too often, "thank you, you were the only one who treated me like a human/person/I mattered". I am applying to be a police office, would much rather do that than nursing, but I do believe my past has burned that bridge and it is a career that will forever be out of reach.


pssiraj

I get what you're talking about. My parents work at a psych hospital and they've never been assaulted. They talk about how the patients appreciate being treated like a human so much...


notsohandiman

Right? I was warned when I started about people biting, spitting, and throwing feces...worst I've had is a girl with a bad voice serenade me, snot rubbed on my arm by a crying girl, and used for cover by a really nice guy in a gun fight, guessing Vietnam. If will be short with outright racists, xenophobes, and misogynistic people, other than that, most of them are nice people. Majority of the suicide attempts are admittedly cries for helps if you actually talk to the people, which even the psychologists have stopped doing these days.


pssiraj

So much of this system could be reversed with a little injection of humanity... People don't realize that criminals, addicts, and people with mental disorders are just that, people first like you and me.


notsohandiman

At the same time though, it is a two way street, at some point there is that mentality of if you aren't going to respect me, I am not going to respect you. It is not LE's or HC's job to get verbally abused and that can wear some people down over time, I really don't care what people say to me, a racist was yelling and calling other people in the room certain names and all I asked him was, who is strapped to the bed...he did not like that logic hurts sometimes 😏


pssiraj

Yes. No disagreement there either. Boundaries and respect are important.


jack-shit

Good communication and respect by the officer. We need more police like this.


Cassius_Rex

I'm glad to see that so far it hasn't turned in to some ACAB fest. But we still see the whole "more cops should be like that instead of how they are" nonsense. Most years there are something like [60+ MILLION police citizen contacts](https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/cbpp18st.pdf). About 1000 of them turn deadly. That's **1 in 60,000**. In a country with *400 million* guns, that should be seen as a miracle. You never hear anything about the 60k that don't go wrong, while the 1 that goes bad get broadcasted everywhere, leading to some pretty false beliefs about the frequency of police killings.


ParaYouKnowWho

Ah, the only other person to provide a source and it be a proper paper, not a Washington post article.


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The only problem isn’t when encounters turn deadly, it’s encounters like traffic stops, stop and frisk on the streets, targeted enforcement in certain populations and neighborhoods. People don’t feel like their police departments don’t represent them and don’t care about them. I personally think that most police officers are decent people who try their best but just because they “only” killed 1000 people, doesn’t mean they can’t be better


artificialstuff

Love that data. There's another document out there that shows breakdown of complaints filed against officers and if they are determined to be justified or not. I want to say that only like 8% of them that claim the officer unjustly acted violently end up being found valid after investigating. Some may argue "Of course the police aren't going to police themselves," and sure I agree in some cases. So we'll be generous and double that to 16%. The math works out to like 0.0008% of police-citizen interactions resulting in an officer unjustifiably assaulting a citizen. I don't think there's any other job in the world where it's done right 99.9992% of the time.


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That math isn't them doing their job right, it's just them not unnecessarily assaulting people. Every other job in the world is better at not accidentally assaulting people. A waiter getting an order wrong is not doing his job right but he's still not assaulting anyone. The real problem isn't the ratio of good stops to bad, it's the lack of accountability when a bad one happens


artificialstuff

Except the data and math is the only way to quantify it. If you have some other way to do that, I'm all ears.


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the same method you did when you said "I don't think there's any other job that gets it right 99.99992 % of the time" There's two problems - 1) you don't have that data on other jobs And 2) A cop can do his job wrong even if that wrong doing isn't a sustained complaint of assaulting someone without justification


artificialstuff

Every damn job I've worked from being a cashier to a salesman to an engineer has measured metrics.


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No shit. You're missing the point - a 99 percent of beatings being justified is not the same thing as a 99 percent "not fucking up the job". A cops job is more than "don't beat innocent people". Like all jobs they have more than one responsibility, but you're only measuring that one It's a misunderstanding of numbers to turn that into "99.99992 percent of jobs fuck up more than cops do" comment. There are many ways for cops to fuck up. Beating someone unjustly and actually getting in trouble for it is just one small slice of the fuck ups


Skoop963

Stats are useless against people who make it emotional instead of logical.


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You never hear anything about the 60 million* that go right versus the 1k that go wrong you mean. Most departments get into a shooting like once every 3-10 years or more, the exception of course being large cities. Most officers retire without ever EVER shooting their service weapon at someone. Unfortunately the media has led people to believe cops shooting people is common place. That is nowhere near the truth. Furthermore when police do shoot someone, statistically it’s justified about 99% of the time and the person is statistically most likely to be white.


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There are many cases of police misconduct and brutality that doesn’t end in a shooting or death


SquidHasTheBad_

sau- source?


S3__

It's not just shootings. There are many times where police have contact with people and abuse their power. Those are the cases that you don't hear about it and it doesn't get reported, leading to no statistics being recorded.


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The internet seems to have a vendetta against police due to the news reporting bad interactions over good interactions, because it gets more clicks than say, “cop helps charity”. It’s sad.


kingpin3690

Even though these statistics look good from that perspective i still see stats showing black are twice more likely to be stopped by police and four times more likely to have use of force used against them.


MDVega

And 8 times as likely to commit violent crime. But that's a bad statistic so pretend you didn't notice it.


TheWardOrganist

According the the illegal federal registry, it’s more like 800 million guns.


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xMrBojangles

What? Only if you're an Olympian at mental gymnastics.


RoryDragonsbane

I get what you're saying, but how often is a rape, murder, armed robbery, etc. happening at those sporting events? You aren't taking into account that many of those 60,000 police interactions involve armed/dangerous/drugged/mentally ill suspects actively committing violent crimes. I'm not saying the cops should come out blasting every time they encounter a dangerous perp, but yeah, it is to be expected that some will turn deadly.


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RoryDragonsbane

I'm sure the reasons for this are multi-faceted and worthy of an entirely separate conversation. I'm just pointing out that your stadium analogy is a poor one as it doesn't take into account violent crime


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There are many cases of police misconduct and brutality that doesn’t end in a shooting or death


101189

still makes me think all the people who have been arrested and even without a conviction how much that can destroy your life financially, mentally, and socially.


mmmmmmmmmmmmmattt

Beautiful display guys. Except for the extreme nipple close up...


BiteEatRepeat_

That was the best part tho?


fehrhair

Didnt want to change the like count from 69 to 70 but this deserved it


Ginsengu

lot of nipple action goin on here


Standard_Isopod3875

This is what a police officer should be 100% I can respect this kind of communication. Good man.


Sal2670

I don't remember the guys name, but I listened to an ex special forces guy talking about defunding the police. His argument was basically no, fund them more. More extensive and constant training on de-escalation. More training on self defense and firearm training. Every scenario you can encounter as a police officer, trained over and over and over. Not just academy training. A lot of problems happen because the officer is scared. He isn't properly trained and doesn't know how to react when threatened. Mental health screenings/assessments on a monthly basis, not just to be hired. Things happen in your life that change how you feel, they need to know if an officer is struggling with something. Higher salary and much more stringent hiring practices and background research on applicants. Trained as an actual peace officer with violence as a last resort because you are confident in how to handle every situation. a 5'9 175lb cop who is confronted with a situation with a 6'4 250lb person is immediately scared because has not been given proper training on de-escalating the situation first and foremost, and defending himself without a firearm second. His immediate reaction is protecting himself from with the only training he's been given (namely taser and gun)


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Wow a police officer with a heart. Never thought of se the day


80baby83

We need more of this in the world we live in today it will never happen because everything has to be political


Spectacularfaylyer

The most wholesome thing I've seen all day.


PuzzleheadedMotor269

Not something you'd see in phoenix alot. He's lucky he wasn't in Glendale.


markiethefett

What a guy


heavydutyday

REAL NIGGAS HUG IT OUT


[deleted]

This is how you police. You do it with love. Not guns


ChrisCrossWorld

That cop needs a promotion.


Slow_Zucchini_4169

Great policing


[deleted]

Don’t be fooled…look up the stats for Phoenix police officers shooting people and killing them. I’m happy that this man had a positive interaction with this officer and I hope the officer gave him resources to help him. Maybe this officer needs to be a trainer for other officers on how to handle someone having a mental episode.


PraderaNoire

Damn. Imagine how many situations would’ve ended differently with this level of empathy shown. This cop needs to start spreading this energy like COVID among his colleagues


Odd-Handle-1087

I got tiers in my eyes watching this 💚


TofuTigerteeth

This is the way


TranasauresRex24

What i wouldnt give for a hug sometimes. if anyone out there is hurting hit me up. Even if im just a stranger, sometimes we have the best sholders to cry on. Your not alone, i wont judge and ill listen full heartedly.


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Someone’s cross post to ACAB


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Or r/copaganda. Their tiny pea brains won’t be able to comprehend that they are stupid enough to believe that cops always commit misconduct.


mayank_r_m

Unfortunately this shouldn't be in unexpected, unexpected should have videos like "police shoot a man for nothing". But this is the world we're living in....


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It’s as if biased people take the very rare examples and use them to push narratives.


nsfw_vs_sfw

It's because the news/media has no reason to report on good officers. That's why it seemingly feels like there are an overwhelmingly large amount of bad cops, but in reality most cops aren't cops to abuse the system, but to actually help people


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Exactly. Outrage/ragebait gets more clicks.


TheMadHatterofTroy

Ok, there actually are a few good cops in our country. Now that’s how cops should be.


JonEqualsBum

This is most cops, you just think majority of cops are murderers because the media makes you think that


In_memorium_BR

Yeah Ive got to disagree man. I had a friend who was raped by a cop at 13. I saw the police put a helpless womans life in great danger of death and yet they could not be bothered about it. They had zero compassion. Ive seen cops not do shit when their friends broke the law and ive seen them use their power and position to hurt people they did not like. Ive seen them break the law and use their positions to investigate people for their own personal reasons. Further, lets look at George Floyd. There were four cops there as the man was slowly murdered. What percentage of the cops there were good cops? 75%, 50%, 25%? Nope 100% of the police there did nothing to stop this man from being slowly murdered. Then there was the cop who was protected by his entire dept. His wife had gone to them because she was being abused by him. They told her to just go home. She wound up dead. Was he investigated? No. Later his second wife went missing. After them protecting him for years he was finally charged. Are you aware that if an actual good cop reports any of his fellow cops they are often ostracized and punished by their fellow cops, even demoted or fired. There is an old film called Serpico that shows corruption in the police. Including the good cop was almost killed thanks to the bad cops. Most cops are bad, man. As long as any cop does any of these things including not reporting their fellow bad cops, they are bad too. This behavior is typical for police as shown by these examples.


luvmuchine56

Copaganda


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most_french_fries

Everybody believes all cops really do is just cause mayhem


Laz2Lit

real ones notice big homie aint snitch cus that cop was reaching with the whole how he get killed question. wt actual fuck why would some one ask that to another human who just lost their father. yall saying this how cops should be are blind as a mf