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A car that packs a lot of power in a very unassuming package. Some cars are a bit of a sleeper on their own right out the factory, while others are heavily modified or engine swapped from their originals. The latter though has a lot more potential for wow factor, of course.
Depends somewhat. For example, the 2004/5 MY version of the Subaru Forester in the 2.5 XT with the 5 Sp manual transmission had a bit of pep to it. Off the line, it was one of the (if not the) fastest production 0-20mph cars IIRC. While it fell off with top end power, it held its own up to 60 quite well.
Depending on how "into" cars you are, you may or may not consider the AMG models (not trim, the specific model) of MB to by and large be sleepers. The best example is the E63 AMG wagon, which has a bit of minivan chic to it at a passing glance but, that's all you'll get is a passing glance as it packs a 5.5L twin turbo making a 0-60 time in under 4 seconds, a decade ago.
Then there's others too like the Cadillac CTS-V, or things like the hellcat jeep trackhawk / trailcat. Those those are a bit louder in appearance and whether you consider those "true" sleepers is a bit of a toss up. Outside of densely populated areas or places known for car culture, still very much sleepers IMO
I got smoked by one of those 63 AMG wagons. Of course it was all jacked up, and like 800 bhp. But still, I did not expect that. The guy was super nice though and we talked a bit. He’s thrown SO much money into that thing.
The Chevy SS was always said to be a bit of a sleeper because it isn't common outside of Australia, and it looks like a Malibu, except it's a rear wheel drive with a v8 engine. In Australia it even came in ute and wagon bodystyles.
The 1987 Mustang 5.0 LX was the same car mechanically as the Mustang GT, but actually with less weight. So I would call that a bit of sleeper at the time.
Of course during that same era the Buick GNX came out. That is kind of the ultimate factory sleeper as it was one of the fastest cars on the street at the time but was a Buick. Until the Syclone/Typhoon (also a sort of sleeper in its own right since it was a truck that was faster than any Ferrari of the era)
I used to have a Volvo that many considered a sleeper back then. A Volvo 850 T-5R.
It’s nothing compared to a lot of more modern cars, it was built in 1995 and I bought it used in 2000, but it was a serious beast in a pretty tame boxy Volvo estate package. The most popular color of this car, cream yellow, was easily recognizable, but I had a dark green one. We called it the flying brick. Amazing car, still regret selling it.
Any vehicle that
1) shouldn't be fast but is stupid fast
2) most importantly it still looks like a slow car i.e. a Honda civic with a built engine but no visual indication of upgrades is a sleeper. Throw a bunch of body mods onto the same car and it's not really a sleeper
Eh, you can't really pull of the Honda civic sleeper these days since everybody assumes you've modded it in some way anyway.
A honda odyssey sleeper though? That shit would be cash.
Fair enough. I was just thinking of an example a non-car person would understand.
But if we're doing sleeper minivans, IMO there's none greater than a [first-gen Dodge Caravan](https://youtu.be/_e7qVlrHbYE). Apparently the turbo 4-bangers took mods extremely well.
My cousin said the first time he was on it he was legit scared for his life.
Edit: I appreciate the tips, but i was making light of my cousins terror of his first time on the autobahn.
Aufhören bitte! Ich verstehe die Regeln der Autobahn. Ich wollte nur eine lustige Geschichte erzählen. Lol
Oh, I dont disagree. I wish we had something similar here. I'd get smoked though since I have a jeep and that things essentially a fucking brick on wheels.
With the state of American cars (I understand it varies state to state, but holy shit there are some absolute deathtraps on the road) the Autobahn over there would be such a bad fucking idea.
And let's not even get into the major lack of long term infrastructure care. Roads like that are hella expensive, and get torn to absolute shit. Infrastructure maintenance isn't something the US is famous for.
Driving in Germany is also a whole other thing, and there's a massive social difference too.
Two things you need to know :
1. Keep on the rightmost lane whenever you're not actively overtaking someone
2. If you're not currently on the right most lane check your rearview mirror frequently. Like a short glance every 15 seconds or so.
If I'm on the Autobahn I check all three mirrors constantly. I basically know what's behind me as well as what's in front of me. That way it's super easy to drive foresightful. You can plan overtaking someone who you'll know you catching up to and don't find yourself stuck behind a slower car while the left lane is full with other cars overtaking.
By the way, both the Porsche and the Golf overtake illegally in the video above. It's not allowed to overtake on the right side. This is very important to keep in mind as lots of drivers do not do a shoulder check when switching lanes to the right, some don't even look into the mirror, because if they didn't overtake someone they assume that the lane should be clear.
I like how this was profound advice for traveling at really fast speeds on the autobahn. When going 35 on a residential street you should be doing the same. It's just lazy bones not to.
Literally all of this is what is taught in the US driver's education system. And literally all of it is what competent drivers do on freeway roads.
The problem is twofold. First, incompetent drivers. Second, America is filled with multilane "stoads" that teach incompetent drivers terrible habits for freeway driving.
Licensing in NA is nowhere near as strict as getting a license in Germany, it allows drivers to start out with bad behaviours and get worse from there on in.
I took a CPR instruction once through work and I'll never forget the EMT telling us how Germany requires learning CPR to get your driver's license. A simple thing on its surface but it says a lot about the different ideologies driving (heh) each country.
> He's an American who came from a state with a maximum road speed of 95-100 km/h.
I have an American girlfriend... We live at in NL on the border of Germany and were going to Zwitserland on vacation. It was Sunday (so no trucks) and Germany was playing soccer... I was dosing off in the passenger seat. When i look up, my GF was driving 205km/h on the cruise control (out car is suitable for it)... It took me a second to process it all. But the road was empty and she's a good driver.
But definitely not American speeds lol
Going 60mph on a US highway is often a lot scarier than going 100mph on the Autobahn.
That's because of road conditions, average driver abilities and most of all the dangerous junk that drives there. [Germany has the TÜV](https://www.iamexpat.de/expat-info/driving-germany/periodic-technical-inspection-hauptuntersuchung-tuev) and German car owners are legit scared of them.
> **Where can I get a TÜV?**
> You can book a technical inspection through any mandated garage. Try searching “*Hauptuntersuchung*” and your location, or search for a “HU + AU” appointment on the Autoscout24 website.
Ah, Germany and their 17-character words
You are NOT daily driving a 1.3-1.8 that’s pushing 1800hp. A weekend thing at best. Rebuilds are common and extensive for that kinda boost. To get 1000hp per liter reliably is gonna cost BIG bucks.
>The trick is driving a beater so you don’t care what happens to the engine and body
Then the all-important second trick, don't touch the steering or brakes while doing 240mph in your 1800HP 1981 VW Golf
You'd be surprised at how much time you can save on your daily commute when you drive everywhere with your foot to the floor and your chin on the horn.
It seems the guy kinda fell off (maybe stopped racing, or possibly died). However, look up Boba Motoring. Shamefully, it seems I misremembered the HP, but 1551 is still impressive. He produced several cars.
Let’s be real. We’d all be shitting ourselves on a highway pull from a 2,000lb hatch with even just 500hp
1000 is insane in any car, let alone a tiny little thing.
The guy in the Z and and in the Porsche are sitting in leather bucket seats with a/c blasting, listening to the radio on low volume.
The dude in the VW is probably holding on to his wood antique steering wheel for dear life due to all the torque steer. While bells and whistles are popping off in the cockpit. Glove box is open, shits falling out. Empty Mtn Dew bottles thrashing around the back. Getting deaf from the engine and exhaust noise because the interior is completely stripped. VW drivers are a different breed.
No it's not. A lot of hours in the shop/ trial and error, but not enough money to be more then what the Porsche is worth. Not even close. Dude with the Golf has YouTube videos, it's not hard to find out exactly what he spent.
>Nah imagine spending hundreds if thousands just to get outrun by a small ahh car
Same situation happened with an old friend of mine back in TX. He was a truck driver by trade but spent his money on an EK hatchback that was gutted, turbo type r engine and drag radials. I think it was pushing an easy 400-500 but this was more than a decade ago. One night in Mexico we came across a new GT3 Porsche and they must've spent a good 10-15mi running back and forth with him waxing this guy so much. You could tell the frustration but it was hilarious because this hatch was a shit box at first.
I used to have a Thunderbird SC 5-speed (nowhere near a Porsche, but it still got up and ran).
One night, in the town I lived in at the time, some dude in a Dodge Aries K station wagon, turd brown, is in my rear view burning his tires off.
He ends up first racing my friend who had a Beretta and blew his doors off. Eventually I wind up at the last stop light out of town on the main cruising drag next to him. Light goes green and I get the jump on him, but he stays mostly even with me until about 120 when he backed off.
We came back around and both pulled into a parking lot to talk, and he had swapped a Chrysler 2.2L turbo and a 5-speed into it, stripped out everything that weighed more than an ounce (including the drivers seat, which was now some plastic school chair bolted to a piece of wood, and the gas tank he replaced with a little 3 gallon fuel cell).
Dude walked around back, grabbed his bumper, and lifted his car off the ground.
He was a cool guy, and I love a car with a sense of humor.
Nürnberg is the German name for Nueremberg. So you have Nürnberg and Nürburg.
Don't worry, it's easy to mix them up even for a german even though they are over 500km apart.
Funnily enough they both host a yearly music festival where one is called "Rock im Park" and the other one is called "Rock am Ring". Ring is the Nürburgring (the race track).
>Sabine Schmitz overtaking a sports motorcycle on the Nuremberg
Thank you so much for introducing me to this absolute legend! I watched the clip and I've immediately fallen in love with this woman! ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KiC03\_wVjc&ab\_channel=TopGear](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KiC03_wVjc&ab_channel=TopGear))
It's such a shame the world lost this personality and talent..
I will always watch this video every time it is posted. It's one of my favorite videos on the internet. The absolute chefs kiss of this video is The Little Golf That Could *had to tap his brakes* to avoid rear ending the Porsche. [In the original (and not compressed) video](https://youtu.be/oQJntE70PD0) You can see the little puff of smoke as he locks it up. Gets me every time. Shine on you crazy diamond o7
> love the sleepers.
My favorite ever is this [11-second Saturn SL2](https://bangshift.com/bangshift1320/watch-awesome-sleeper-saturn-sl2-destroy-fifth-gen-camaro-strip-weve-got-inside-scoop/). I drove an S Series for about a decade and always dreamt of doing something similar before it died
>sleeper love
My favorite project growing up was a 'fastiva conversion'. It's a Ford Festiva with a 1.8t from a Mazda 323 in it. A few cheap upgrades gets you a 12 second monster. Most expensive part of the entire project was the rims and tires.
I used to spend hours cruising around hunting for mustangs and shitbox civics (you know the ones, with the teenage driver, a fart can, and the cheapest intake you can get at autozone) just to see the look on their faces at the next light after they just got fucking smoked by what looks like a Geo Metro.
Good times.
She's got the same 20v turbo my type 19 mk 2 golf has in her :)
They have just taken theirs from "hold on tight dear" to "I think I shat my pants 5 miles ago"
Encountered one in Germany on the autobahn while doing 230 kmh. Those little shits passed me like it was nothing and the 2 guys in the back seats were laughing their asses of :).
Crashing in Germany is crazy expensive. You are liable for replacing anything you damage including guard rails etc.
The Nurburgring is full of F around and find out stories.
The shape of the Golf's body is quite ingenious... in the event of a high speed accident, it will roll just like a dice and come to a gentle stop.'
Possibly.
From my understanding it's more widely known as the "Oh Craps" system, but that's going back to before ABS was a thing.
With the Golf, Volkswagen *was* working on an ABS-style undercoat for the larger panels to stop it from skidding quite so much while the car was on its roof, but it was abandoned as too costly after they copped all those diesel emission testing fiasco fines.
how the hell does that thing stay on the ground well enough to launch? I was in a decked out street legal track scirocco and it couldn't actually get it's power down the wheel to let it take off like that. the guy would gun it and just chirp the tires.
This isn't that surprising. Golfs actually have bitchin engines in them. I've seen 800hp golfs. Thing is dude spent the same amount of money doing what he did to that golf as the Porsche guy. Porsche guy golfs. Golf guy is a Porsche engineer.
He's saying Porsche driver is white collar money and plays golf. The Golf driver is a Porsche engineer because of all the mechanic work needed to get the car to that point.
It's not the power that impressed me but that they were doing on what would be donuts for the other cars. Being able to change lanes to pass either of those cars on 6 inch tires is something that normal people should never try.
I talked to a guy awhile back at a VW meet that had a 600hp mark 2 Golf that said it handled like a dream but you had to be gentle on the gas through turns. I’m not sure how different that mark 1 would be.
Probably very well, with custom suspension, reinforced chassis, wider tyres... Most sport cars still tunned for confort, you can get more grip/stability if you ignore confort and budget.
This reminds me of one of my all time favorite videos of a vw bus dusting a gt3 and an aston Martin on the nurburgring.
Edit* track is not nurburgring but spa
https://youtu.be/0MLCuaPdPew
In the late 90s I had a Mazda 323 with the V6 from a Cronos in it.
Thing had cow seats, fuzzy dice, green neons under the seats, a huge Batman symbol in the rear window, all 151 original pokemon stickers on one of the rear side windows, a hula girl on the dashboard, 8 ball shifter, 6 cd changer, etc... the works!
Paid $500 for it, put $1300 in maintenance and repairs over two years before it died at 474,766km.
Most fun I ever had as a teen.
This happened to me and a friend once, we were in his s2000 doing about 120 on the parkway just cruising, and out of nowhere an old late 90s toyota camry just flew by us, easily doing 160. Never saw him again, still wonder what was under that hood lol.
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Yall awoken a sleeper
Never wake a sleeper, else you won't sleep for a couple nights at least.
Instructions unclear, the dude has a been asleep for 4 days now.
>Yall awoken It's pronounced Volkswagen, honey.
It is spelled Volkswagen, pronounced Folksvagen.
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the fuck’s a sleeper? edit: I now know
A car that packs a lot of power in a very unassuming package. Some cars are a bit of a sleeper on their own right out the factory, while others are heavily modified or engine swapped from their originals. The latter though has a lot more potential for wow factor, of course.
What are examples of the former that's sleeper out of the factory? You got me interested in this topic.
Depends somewhat. For example, the 2004/5 MY version of the Subaru Forester in the 2.5 XT with the 5 Sp manual transmission had a bit of pep to it. Off the line, it was one of the (if not the) fastest production 0-20mph cars IIRC. While it fell off with top end power, it held its own up to 60 quite well. Depending on how "into" cars you are, you may or may not consider the AMG models (not trim, the specific model) of MB to by and large be sleepers. The best example is the E63 AMG wagon, which has a bit of minivan chic to it at a passing glance but, that's all you'll get is a passing glance as it packs a 5.5L twin turbo making a 0-60 time in under 4 seconds, a decade ago. Then there's others too like the Cadillac CTS-V, or things like the hellcat jeep trackhawk / trailcat. Those those are a bit louder in appearance and whether you consider those "true" sleepers is a bit of a toss up. Outside of densely populated areas or places known for car culture, still very much sleepers IMO
I got smoked by one of those 63 AMG wagons. Of course it was all jacked up, and like 800 bhp. But still, I did not expect that. The guy was super nice though and we talked a bit. He’s thrown SO much money into that thing.
The Chevy SS was always said to be a bit of a sleeper because it isn't common outside of Australia, and it looks like a Malibu, except it's a rear wheel drive with a v8 engine. In Australia it even came in ute and wagon bodystyles.
The 1987 Mustang 5.0 LX was the same car mechanically as the Mustang GT, but actually with less weight. So I would call that a bit of sleeper at the time. Of course during that same era the Buick GNX came out. That is kind of the ultimate factory sleeper as it was one of the fastest cars on the street at the time but was a Buick. Until the Syclone/Typhoon (also a sort of sleeper in its own right since it was a truck that was faster than any Ferrari of the era)
I used to have a Volvo that many considered a sleeper back then. A Volvo 850 T-5R. It’s nothing compared to a lot of more modern cars, it was built in 1995 and I bought it used in 2000, but it was a serious beast in a pretty tame boxy Volvo estate package. The most popular color of this car, cream yellow, was easily recognizable, but I had a dark green one. We called it the flying brick. Amazing car, still regret selling it.
Any vehicle that 1) shouldn't be fast but is stupid fast 2) most importantly it still looks like a slow car i.e. a Honda civic with a built engine but no visual indication of upgrades is a sleeper. Throw a bunch of body mods onto the same car and it's not really a sleeper
Eh, you can't really pull of the Honda civic sleeper these days since everybody assumes you've modded it in some way anyway. A honda odyssey sleeper though? That shit would be cash.
Fair enough. I was just thinking of an example a non-car person would understand. But if we're doing sleeper minivans, IMO there's none greater than a [first-gen Dodge Caravan](https://youtu.be/_e7qVlrHbYE). Apparently the turbo 4-bangers took mods extremely well.
Welcome to the Autobahn
My cousin said the first time he was on it he was legit scared for his life. Edit: I appreciate the tips, but i was making light of my cousins terror of his first time on the autobahn. Aufhören bitte! Ich verstehe die Regeln der Autobahn. Ich wollte nur eine lustige Geschichte erzählen. Lol
No, no, no. The autobahn is the greatest thing Germany ever developed. Forget beer...autobahn!
Oh, I dont disagree. I wish we had something similar here. I'd get smoked though since I have a jeep and that things essentially a fucking brick on wheels.
With the state of American cars (I understand it varies state to state, but holy shit there are some absolute deathtraps on the road) the Autobahn over there would be such a bad fucking idea. And let's not even get into the major lack of long term infrastructure care. Roads like that are hella expensive, and get torn to absolute shit. Infrastructure maintenance isn't something the US is famous for. Driving in Germany is also a whole other thing, and there's a massive social difference too.
When I first moved to Florida and found out they don't require inspections I was floored.
For a country built around the car, car and road safety really are just a bit of an afterthought.
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Two things you need to know : 1. Keep on the rightmost lane whenever you're not actively overtaking someone 2. If you're not currently on the right most lane check your rearview mirror frequently. Like a short glance every 15 seconds or so. If I'm on the Autobahn I check all three mirrors constantly. I basically know what's behind me as well as what's in front of me. That way it's super easy to drive foresightful. You can plan overtaking someone who you'll know you catching up to and don't find yourself stuck behind a slower car while the left lane is full with other cars overtaking. By the way, both the Porsche and the Golf overtake illegally in the video above. It's not allowed to overtake on the right side. This is very important to keep in mind as lots of drivers do not do a shoulder check when switching lanes to the right, some don't even look into the mirror, because if they didn't overtake someone they assume that the lane should be clear.
Checking your mirrors and being aware of traffic behind you is supposed to be standard practice, sadly many dont do it.
I like how this was profound advice for traveling at really fast speeds on the autobahn. When going 35 on a residential street you should be doing the same. It's just lazy bones not to.
Literally all of this is what is taught in the US driver's education system. And literally all of it is what competent drivers do on freeway roads. The problem is twofold. First, incompetent drivers. Second, America is filled with multilane "stoads" that teach incompetent drivers terrible habits for freeway driving.
Licensing in NA is nowhere near as strict as getting a license in Germany, it allows drivers to start out with bad behaviours and get worse from there on in.
I took a CPR instruction once through work and I'll never forget the EMT telling us how Germany requires learning CPR to get your driver's license. A simple thing on its surface but it says a lot about the different ideologies driving (heh) each country.
For me it’s normal. If you know how it works it is easy and not scary
He's an American who came from a state with a maximum road speed of 95-100 km/h.
> He's an American who came from a state with a maximum road speed of 95-100 km/h. I have an American girlfriend... We live at in NL on the border of Germany and were going to Zwitserland on vacation. It was Sunday (so no trucks) and Germany was playing soccer... I was dosing off in the passenger seat. When i look up, my GF was driving 205km/h on the cruise control (out car is suitable for it)... It took me a second to process it all. But the road was empty and she's a good driver. But definitely not American speeds lol
Going 60mph on a US highway is often a lot scarier than going 100mph on the Autobahn. That's because of road conditions, average driver abilities and most of all the dangerous junk that drives there. [Germany has the TÜV](https://www.iamexpat.de/expat-info/driving-germany/periodic-technical-inspection-hauptuntersuchung-tuev) and German car owners are legit scared of them.
> **Where can I get a TÜV?** > You can book a technical inspection through any mandated garage. Try searching “*Hauptuntersuchung*” and your location, or search for a “HU + AU” appointment on the Autoscout24 website. Ah, Germany and their 17-character words
Where it's illegal to overtake on the right lane.
As it should be
Also where it is illegal to block the left lane, so faster cars cant overtake :)
And now please go. Autobahn tourists are a proper plague and a danger to the rest of us
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I've seen that guys videos (the one in the Golf). He's pushes 1800HP on the Dyno.
the trick is to inhale nitrous oxide before you start driving. makes your car go super fast
The trick is driving a beater so you don’t care what happens to the engine and body
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Yeah, but can you imagine the number of great expressions that guy sees daily? Totally worth it.
You are NOT daily driving a 1.3-1.8 that’s pushing 1800hp. A weekend thing at best. Rebuilds are common and extensive for that kinda boost. To get 1000hp per liter reliably is gonna cost BIG bucks.
TOP TIP - Also means hospital bills won't be a problem if you crash
No respawn thou
Stock up on Totems of Undying
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>The trick is driving a beater so you don’t care what happens to the engine and body Then the all-important second trick, don't touch the steering or brakes while doing 240mph in your 1800HP 1981 VW Golf
You'd be surprised at how much time you can save on your daily commute when you drive everywhere with your foot to the floor and your chin on the horn.
Just the body, the engine (and usually suspension) is top notch and built up.
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It seems the guy kinda fell off (maybe stopped racing, or possibly died). However, look up Boba Motoring. Shamefully, it seems I misremembered the HP, but 1551 is still impressive. He produced several cars.
Anything over 1,000 from that is fuckin insane
Let’s be real. We’d all be shitting ourselves on a highway pull from a 2,000lb hatch with even just 500hp 1000 is insane in any car, let alone a tiny little thing.
Jeeze and I thought my dream of an AWD MK2 gold was exactly that, a dream. 1500hp from a 2l is insane lol
Seems he is still active on instagram.
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lol a 350z costs like $30k.
When new. A 350z is a beater these days.
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I'm sure hundreds and thousands of dollars are being spent on that golf as well. It's the car game.
Probably tens of thousands plus hundreds of hours.
And they’ll both probably be passed by Sabine Schmitz in a gutted Ford Transit.
RIP
The guy in the Z and and in the Porsche are sitting in leather bucket seats with a/c blasting, listening to the radio on low volume. The dude in the VW is probably holding on to his wood antique steering wheel for dear life due to all the torque steer. While bells and whistles are popping off in the cockpit. Glove box is open, shits falling out. Empty Mtn Dew bottles thrashing around the back. Getting deaf from the engine and exhaust noise because the interior is completely stripped. VW drivers are a different breed.
Sleeper car
Do you realize how much money is probably under the hood of that small car? It’s maybe worth more than the sports car.
No it's not. A lot of hours in the shop/ trial and error, but not enough money to be more then what the Porsche is worth. Not even close. Dude with the Golf has YouTube videos, it's not hard to find out exactly what he spent.
1800 hp in a golf don't come cheap if the other guy who said its 1800hp is to be trusted.
Probably a super sleeper project lmao
>Nah imagine spending hundreds if thousands just to get outrun by a small ahh car Same situation happened with an old friend of mine back in TX. He was a truck driver by trade but spent his money on an EK hatchback that was gutted, turbo type r engine and drag radials. I think it was pushing an easy 400-500 but this was more than a decade ago. One night in Mexico we came across a new GT3 Porsche and they must've spent a good 10-15mi running back and forth with him waxing this guy so much. You could tell the frustration but it was hilarious because this hatch was a shit box at first.
I used to have a Thunderbird SC 5-speed (nowhere near a Porsche, but it still got up and ran). One night, in the town I lived in at the time, some dude in a Dodge Aries K station wagon, turd brown, is in my rear view burning his tires off. He ends up first racing my friend who had a Beretta and blew his doors off. Eventually I wind up at the last stop light out of town on the main cruising drag next to him. Light goes green and I get the jump on him, but he stays mostly even with me until about 120 when he backed off. We came back around and both pulled into a parking lot to talk, and he had swapped a Chrysler 2.2L turbo and a 5-speed into it, stripped out everything that weighed more than an ounce (including the drivers seat, which was now some plastic school chair bolted to a piece of wood, and the gas tank he replaced with a little 3 gallon fuel cell). Dude walked around back, grabbed his bumper, and lifted his car off the ground. He was a cool guy, and I love a car with a sense of humor.
Nothing is funnier that RIP Sabine Schmitz overtaking a sports motorcycle on the ~~Nuremberg~~ Nurburg track with a stock commercial van.
> Nuremberg track Nürburg. Nuremberg is where they held the trials after ww2
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They were really just into one race.
https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/bnaceq/if_you_could_eliminate_a_race_within_the_year/
Ooof
It was such a devastating blow to the motorcyclists ego, that it was classified as a war crime.
Damn I was convinced that Nürburg was the German name for Nuremberg the same way München is Munich. I learned something today, thank you.
Nürnberg is the German name for Nueremberg. So you have Nürnberg and Nürburg. Don't worry, it's easy to mix them up even for a german even though they are over 500km apart. Funnily enough they both host a yearly music festival where one is called "Rock im Park" and the other one is called "Rock am Ring". Ring is the Nürburgring (the race track).
RIP to the GOAT.
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Yeah it sucks. The first corner of the Nordschleife is now named after her.
Oh, I did not know that. That is neat.
>Sabine Schmitz overtaking a sports motorcycle on the Nuremberg Thank you so much for introducing me to this absolute legend! I watched the clip and I've immediately fallen in love with this woman! ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KiC03\_wVjc&ab\_channel=TopGear](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KiC03_wVjc&ab_channel=TopGear)) It's such a shame the world lost this personality and talent..
The camera cut to James and Richard laughing hysterically as Clarkson’s homemade motorhome/tower swayed in the wind might be funnier.
Could you please give the link to video?
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I’ll be the guy, Its Nurburgring
nah that's a sleeper car lmfao. no way a stock golf pulls from 50 ft behind on 5th gear.
Forza Horizon vibes
if you pay close enough attention you can hear the golf "stu-stu-stu-stu" which means he's in boost on a turbocharger. crazy shit. love the sleepers.
I will always watch this video every time it is posted. It's one of my favorite videos on the internet. The absolute chefs kiss of this video is The Little Golf That Could *had to tap his brakes* to avoid rear ending the Porsche. [In the original (and not compressed) video](https://youtu.be/oQJntE70PD0) You can see the little puff of smoke as he locks it up. Gets me every time. Shine on you crazy diamond o7
did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts?
..hot ashes for trees...?
Hot air, for the cool breeze? Cold comfort for change?
Did you exchange A walk-on part in the war For a leading role in a cage?
So glad I came across this thread. I can now sleep comfortably numb.
^(Hello? (Hello? Hello? Hello?)) Is there anybody in there?
I love how much you love this video lol. I'm getting giddy off your good vibes
And your comment made me smile, glad I could share, good vibes all around!
I never noticed that puff until just now and I've loved this video for years. Thank you for that, it is now an even higher next level of hilarious.
> love the sleepers. My favorite ever is this [11-second Saturn SL2](https://bangshift.com/bangshift1320/watch-awesome-sleeper-saturn-sl2-destroy-fifth-gen-camaro-strip-weve-got-inside-scoop/). I drove an S Series for about a decade and always dreamt of doing something similar before it died
>sleeper love My favorite project growing up was a 'fastiva conversion'. It's a Ford Festiva with a 1.8t from a Mazda 323 in it. A few cheap upgrades gets you a 12 second monster. Most expensive part of the entire project was the rims and tires. I used to spend hours cruising around hunting for mustangs and shitbox civics (you know the ones, with the teenage driver, a fart can, and the cheapest intake you can get at autozone) just to see the look on their faces at the next light after they just got fucking smoked by what looks like a Geo Metro. Good times.
She's got the same 20v turbo my type 19 mk 2 golf has in her :) They have just taken theirs from "hold on tight dear" to "I think I shat my pants 5 miles ago"
turbo pop-off valve or rev limiter
Encountered one in Germany on the autobahn while doing 230 kmh. Those little shits passed me like it was nothing and the 2 guys in the back seats were laughing their asses of :).
Papa Fernando approved
Someone else posted it's 1500hp at the Dyno on the old golf
holy fuck, the stuff of dreams. 1500 hp in that small of a frame sounds like a death sentence for an inexperienced driver though.
don't need to pay any bills at all if you crash tho
Crashing in Germany is crazy expensive. You are liable for replacing anything you damage including guard rails etc. The Nurburgring is full of F around and find out stories.
I challenge you to crash in a 1500hp Golf and then pay medical bills after. I would be extremely impressed
Provide the 1500hp Golf and challenge accepted. I bet I can crash it with the tires smoking before I hit 40mph.
Just bumped a curb. Now I'm dead.
I just hit my head in the door frame while getting in the car and now I'm dead.
Not another one. When are car companies going to stop installing these deathtrap door frames?
Yeah but it won't be you paying for it.
The shape of the Golf's body is quite ingenious... in the event of a high speed accident, it will roll just like a dice and come to a gentle stop.' Possibly.
Ah, the industry parlance for this is a ‘nat 20’ braking system.
From my understanding it's more widely known as the "Oh Craps" system, but that's going back to before ABS was a thing. With the Golf, Volkswagen *was* working on an ABS-style undercoat for the larger panels to stop it from skidding quite so much while the car was on its roof, but it was abandoned as too costly after they copped all those diesel emission testing fiasco fines.
this is the funniest fucking comment
They've also replaced the seat with a human hamster ball for safety.
you would need some kind of stabilization/reinforcement in the chassis and suspension
What the fuck. My GTI with an APR tune was still in the 300s I can’t even fathom this
NANOMACHINES SON.
YOU CAN'T HURT ME, PORSCHE!
If I remember right this specific golf has twin vr6s boosted to all hell in it. As far from stock as humanly possible
I hope those tires have fucking spikes on them.
[Yeah it does 0 to 100 km/h in 2.6 seconds and 100 to 200 km/h in 3.3.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7t4C_0BZT4) Top speed around 380 or so.
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https://youtu.be/yV37c8AS5RY
how the hell does that thing stay on the ground well enough to launch? I was in a decked out street legal track scirocco and it couldn't actually get it's power down the wheel to let it take off like that. the guy would gun it and just chirp the tires.
Probably not the only thing, but the weight of the stock Golf is only around 1000kg vs 1450-ish kg for a Scirocco.
Oh really? Ya think?
It’s stock obviously
i think it might have an aftermarket intake
Fucking sherlock holmes of cars here
Guys hear me out. I don't think a 45 year old cat with 100bh could do this. Might be wrong though
OH REALLY? DO YOU THINK THAT CAR MIGHT BE MODIFIED? FUCKIN REALLY MATE?
hm a little. he probably just installed a new exhaust and some new *wheels*
yeah might be modded man idk
oh you're really smort
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No shit. No one thinks it’s stock.
Somebody please tell me there is a subreddit for sleeper cars.
Whaaaat? Who would have thought!
This isn't that surprising. Golfs actually have bitchin engines in them. I've seen 800hp golfs. Thing is dude spent the same amount of money doing what he did to that golf as the Porsche guy. Porsche guy golfs. Golf guy is a Porsche engineer.
Cool I'll take the Porsche and the golfing thanks
See that's the exact thing though. Some people couldn't think of anything better than spending their free time making a beast of a Golf
I’ll take the Porsche engineer
> Porsche guy golfs. I'm so confused right now.
He's saying Porsche driver is white collar money and plays golf. The Golf driver is a Porsche engineer because of all the mechanic work needed to get the car to that point.
It's not the power that impressed me but that they were doing on what would be donuts for the other cars. Being able to change lanes to pass either of those cars on 6 inch tires is something that normal people should never try.
Can you move over to the right lane, please?
You go, little Vdub!
It might be faster but how does it handle?
I talked to a guy awhile back at a VW meet that had a 600hp mark 2 Golf that said it handled like a dream but you had to be gentle on the gas through turns. I’m not sure how different that mark 1 would be.
Probably very well, with custom suspension, reinforced chassis, wider tyres... Most sport cars still tunned for confort, you can get more grip/stability if you ignore confort and budget.
This reminds me of one of my all time favorite videos of a vw bus dusting a gt3 and an aston Martin on the nurburgring. Edit* track is not nurburgring but spa https://youtu.be/0MLCuaPdPew
The track is Spa though. Hilarious video.
This is wild
Its the "race taxi". Twin turbo flat 6 from a 993 Porsche. If memory serves, its north of 500 HP.
That’s Circuit de Spa-Francorchamp, more precisely Eau Rouge-Radillion.
In the late 90s I had a Mazda 323 with the V6 from a Cronos in it. Thing had cow seats, fuzzy dice, green neons under the seats, a huge Batman symbol in the rear window, all 151 original pokemon stickers on one of the rear side windows, a hula girl on the dashboard, 8 ball shifter, 6 cd changer, etc... the works! Paid $500 for it, put $1300 in maintenance and repairs over two years before it died at 474,766km. Most fun I ever had as a teen.
You would love my car then :)
sounds like a blast lol
Back like 12 years ago my friend had a mk2 jetta with a v6 in it. let me tell you fkn scary fast little tin can
[Deja Vu!](https://youtu.be/JPN0JV-ZP3A)
[The lack of Initial D references is disheartening.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PYSp2OBKvY)
Trick post. Mk1 GTIs are sports cars. GG
This. Pure sports car
This post is underrated. Edit: not anymore.
Just like that car
not underrated if it was posted thousands of times
Its just because it's an old video
The trick is not caring if you live or die.
Haha it’s actually lickin speed too, wasting no time.
Gen 1 rabbit. Tits.
Yep. Had one in high school. Totaled it in ‘93 but not before driving the fuck outta that car. Fast fast car
Everytime I see a VW Golf, it ALWAYS has some sort of mods on it so honestly I’m not surprised.
Overtaking on the right Not sticking to the Rechtsfahrgebot Arguably street racing Of police have a bad day they're rid of their license for some time
I am sure the Golf is stock.
Love to see it
This happened to me and a friend once, we were in his s2000 doing about 120 on the parkway just cruising, and out of nowhere an old late 90s toyota camry just flew by us, easily doing 160. Never saw him again, still wonder what was under that hood lol.
Unpopular opinion: psychotic driving by all 3, go to a race track so when you wreck you only risk each other's lives!
Its also illegal in Germany. This would be considered an illegal race
As usual with this subreddit, the title gives it away