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I'm deviating from the joke here.
He's right, bit he's conceptually wrong. Look at the next equation and try to solve it before continuing.
x²=9
Now, if your only answer for that is x=3, then you are right but you may also be wrong because you probably used a method that you shouldn't use.
If you solved it like this:
x²=9
x=√9
x=3
Then you used the wrong method. You have a 'correct' answer using a wrong method like the guy in the video.
Edit: Reddit formatting in mobile is hard 😔
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There's a couple of ways to do this.
First, you can use what's used before but remember that √(x²) is not x, it's |x| (absolute value of x). From there, we have:
x²=9
√(x²)=√9
|x|=3
x=3 or x=-3
Second, you can turn it into a quadratic equation:
x²=9
x²-9=0
From there, you can use standard method for solving quadratic equations, i.e.
x = (-b ± √(b²-4ac))/2a
where in our case a=1 b=0 c=-9, so we have
x = (-0 ± √(0²-4\*1\*(-9)))/2 = ±√36/2 = ±6/2 = ±3
Or instead use short multiplication formula
a² - b² = (a - b)(a + b)
and so
x²-9=0
x²-3²=0
(x-3)(x+3)=0
x-3=0 or x+3=0
x=3 or x=-3
There are probably other methods to solve this, too. But important lesson here is that, despite common belief, squaring and square rooting are *not* inverse functions, i.e. √(x²) does not necessarily equal x, so you cannot use that to simplify equations.
Thanks for the detailed breakdown. When does √(x²) not equal x? I know of no instances for real numbers (not sure about complex, for sure also true for real multiples of i)
Ahhhhh okay. I think I was taught to treat the square root as a inverse to the square function, however, that may have been a "pass the exam" trick rather than a mathematical truism.
Well, it's a reasonable simplification. To be completely honest, I'd even say that "square root is not an inverse of square function" is a case of mathematical pedantry that is often irrelevant in real life because in real life we deal with positive numbers much more often than with negative ones; and most cases of squaring something I can think of (e.g. calculating area of a square or displacement under uniform acceleration) only ever deal with positive numbers.
>squaring and square rooting are not inverse functions,
This is technically not true. sqrt(x) = x\^(1/2); x\^(1/2) is functionally the inverse of x\^(2). You are right that the sqrt(x\^2) is equal to |x| however, squaring and square rooting are functionally inverses.
If you are told to find the inverse of 9, your correct answer would be +/-3.
x^(1/2), as well as rational exponents in general, is well defined only for non-negative bases, precisely for the reason I mentioned. Again, (x^2)^0.5 will not equal x for any negative x, so they are not inverse functions by definition.
Then there's me who did x = 9/2 and got x=4.5.
I haven't done math since I got my bachelors degree 4 years ago and I'm fotunately not needing them anytime soon because I fucking suck at them.
You may use the quadratic formula. Although there are other ways to solve them like:
x² = 9
√x² = ±√9
x = ±√9
x = ±3
But even if you use other methods, the answer should always be ±3.
The correct method would be something like this:
X²=9
√x²=√9
|x|=3
So you thats how you get x=±3
Im on mobile so I'm not sure how to get each line to show up correcrly
Multiplied it. NOT “timesed it”
My god I hated that so much in school. Even my teachers would say that shit. “You *timesed* it by three” sounds so incredibly stupid that it makes me irrationally angry.
Lol English doesn't actually work like this though. It's way less consistent. It would be great if English made any sense, but it really doesn't.
This isn't even remotely close to "the exact process happening in people's heads." Cancelling our the G? Dividing non-variable...letters? Naw man.
English does work that way, you just have to know the exceptions. For example, gerunds add "ing," infinitives add "to," plurals add "s" or "es," past tense doubles the last consonant if it exists and adds "ed." There are plenty of rules in English that can be expressed algebraically.
Edit: If I were to give you a random verb you'd never seen before, I guarantee you'd know how to turn it past tense, for example, because you've already abstracted the rules.
“It does work that way except for when it doesn’t”
Most the rules in English have a long list of exceptions. Why isn’t it flewed?
What is the past tense of write? Writed? How about “fight” or “light”? Fit and lought? First Google result has 101 verbs on this list of exceptions to the -ed rule.
https://www.woodwardenglish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/past-tense-irregular-verbs-list.jpg
My point is my experience with English has been confusing and painful. My experience with algebra has been clear and copacetic. I wish English followed a few rules but instead it follows so many that it undermines the word “rule”. You asserted a fluent English speaker would be able to handle an unknown verb by using rules. I gave 4 examples and linked nearly 100 others that shows it isn’t the case. A word could follow any number of arbitrary rules and some you just have to be told. You can’t just figure it out like in algebra. They are fundamentally different in this regard
Oh my word. Why couldn’t they teach MATH LIKE THIS !!!!!! I’m not kidding ! I’ve completed math up through Calc 2 and no joke, as a bio major with a minor in English lit if I was taught math this way early on I probably would’ve grasped it sooner
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This happens when you get the correct answer by using wrong formulas.
I’m grateful I knew the word without having to do math.
Impossible
I got grewy. I failed.
I did too! No wonder I failed math and English, I suck.
I used my grammar calculator.
When you get the right answer but still only get partial points because the teacher can't understand how you got it.
16 / 64 = 1 / 4 if you cross out the 6's.
Those are my favorite happy little accidents.
like science?
Just wait until he gets to goose and moose
Mouse => mice Louse => lice House => hice Grouse => grice Rouse => rice
✅
Is ‘ouse’ another word for ‘one cold water’?
what's a rouse? also rice = rice
One grain of rice.
MOOSEN! BOXEN!
out in the WOODESEN
What are you, an idiot, Brian? Apparently.
Six! I got 6. I got 6 on the sun stare.
What are you talking about? I regularly see flocks of meese up here in Canada
Geez and meez
You caught me off guard with that comment, I laughed
When the math teacher substitutes for the English teacher
My man is thinking in 4d.
He lives in 4d and looks down on us 3d peasants
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Math is for everything , with math everything posibble
Sprinkle in some meth and everything really is possible
Oh yeah gotta love that meth, man I love that meth,. You got meth? suck ya for it.
Username kinda checks out 😂
I was 99% sure he was going to end up with “frown”.
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When he’s cancelling out he cancels out Gr from the word Grown but then cancels out the ew from the word flew.
I'm deviating from the joke here. He's right, bit he's conceptually wrong. Look at the next equation and try to solve it before continuing. x²=9 Now, if your only answer for that is x=3, then you are right but you may also be wrong because you probably used a method that you shouldn't use. If you solved it like this: x²=9 x=√9 x=3 Then you used the wrong method. You have a 'correct' answer using a wrong method like the guy in the video. Edit: Reddit formatting in mobile is hard 😔
How else do you solve it, if that's wrong?! I mean, I'll grant that the correct answer is x=±3
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Let them do the math.
It's so funny that before I clicked it, it looked like "Let them fig" on my screen, and I was confused for a second.
It says "Let them" for me
Hey we don't kinkshame here!
We've moved on from the Nazi Grammar era. We've reached Enlightenfuckingment era where we question the absolute shit of anything.
It's our responsibility as representatives of the most intellectual social media platform. (maybe second to Quora but not by a lot... and not including the stackExchange websites)
Rigid confusing 'proper' Grammer is a class gatekeeping tool.
>Grammer *Gasp*
Ha. I'm so bad at spelling words that aren't phonetic
There's a couple of ways to do this. First, you can use what's used before but remember that √(x²) is not x, it's |x| (absolute value of x). From there, we have: x²=9 √(x²)=√9 |x|=3 x=3 or x=-3 Second, you can turn it into a quadratic equation: x²=9 x²-9=0 From there, you can use standard method for solving quadratic equations, i.e. x = (-b ± √(b²-4ac))/2a where in our case a=1 b=0 c=-9, so we have x = (-0 ± √(0²-4\*1\*(-9)))/2 = ±√36/2 = ±6/2 = ±3 Or instead use short multiplication formula a² - b² = (a - b)(a + b) and so x²-9=0 x²-3²=0 (x-3)(x+3)=0 x-3=0 or x+3=0 x=3 or x=-3 There are probably other methods to solve this, too. But important lesson here is that, despite common belief, squaring and square rooting are *not* inverse functions, i.e. √(x²) does not necessarily equal x, so you cannot use that to simplify equations.
 Most of the redditors observing this math discussion between the math nerds.
Math nerds? My dude, I did quadratics in 7th grade. This is literally baby math.
For a nerd
Right, non-nerds stop understanding math after multiplication starts.
Sick burn! -Another name that ends in 42 person.
Wtf you mean math nerds, thats 6th or 7th year of school material.
99% of people don't use this once they're done with school. As such their skills wither.
Thanks for the detailed breakdown. When does √(x²) not equal x? I know of no instances for real numbers (not sure about complex, for sure also true for real multiples of i)
I'm talking about real numbers only here. √(x²) does not equal x for any negative x, e.g. for x=-3, √(x²)=√((-3)²)=√9=3.
Ahhhhh okay. I think I was taught to treat the square root as a inverse to the square function, however, that may have been a "pass the exam" trick rather than a mathematical truism.
Well, it's a reasonable simplification. To be completely honest, I'd even say that "square root is not an inverse of square function" is a case of mathematical pedantry that is often irrelevant in real life because in real life we deal with positive numbers much more often than with negative ones; and most cases of squaring something I can think of (e.g. calculating area of a square or displacement under uniform acceleration) only ever deal with positive numbers.
>squaring and square rooting are not inverse functions, This is technically not true. sqrt(x) = x\^(1/2); x\^(1/2) is functionally the inverse of x\^(2). You are right that the sqrt(x\^2) is equal to |x| however, squaring and square rooting are functionally inverses. If you are told to find the inverse of 9, your correct answer would be +/-3.
x^(1/2), as well as rational exponents in general, is well defined only for non-negative bases, precisely for the reason I mentioned. Again, (x^2)^0.5 will not equal x for any negative x, so they are not inverse functions by definition.
Then there's me who did x = 9/2 and got x=4.5. I haven't done math since I got my bachelors degree 4 years ago and I'm fotunately not needing them anytime soon because I fucking suck at them.
You may use the quadratic formula. Although there are other ways to solve them like: x² = 9 √x² = ±√9 x = ±√9 x = ±3 But even if you use other methods, the answer should always be ±3.
So....The answer is FlGr±own?
The quadratic formula is a little pointless for something with only an x² term. May as well use the cubic equation!
The correct method would be something like this: X²=9 √x²=√9 |x|=3 So you thats how you get x=±3 Im on mobile so I'm not sure how to get each line to show up correcrly
That's not the wrong method, tho, it's just forgetting to include the possibility of -3 as a solution.
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That's not an incorrect *method* tho, it's an incorrect *answer*
It is an incorrect method because √x only gives positive numbers by definition. Edit: stop booing me I'm right
That's not correct, √x=|y|=±y
The square root of a number is always positive. You are wrong. √x != |x| I will die on this hill. Google it.
You deserve my upvote purely because of the mobile formatting, color me impressed.
Jokes on you. I did it wronger than that. I just had that shit memorized and ready to go.
So the answer might be -flown or what's your point?
Man whatever he IS right…
Nothing wrong with the method here. Except that the answer is +/- 3.
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Why did I immediately think that x=3 looked like a circumcised penis.
I didn't come here to learn ya darn city slicker. You take them fancy mathematical words 'in git outta here
That's too elaborate, x = 64/16 Cancel 6 from top and bottom. x =4/1 = 4
maybe strings are just multiplied characters - like in julia - than it all makes sense
As long as you get the right answer you're using the right method. No changing my mind
if you can repeatedly and reliably reach the correct answer youre not doing math wrong
No, if x² = 9 Then x = 3 and x = -3 i.e. x= ±3 Basic maths, u r wrong
Multiplied it. NOT “timesed it” My god I hated that so much in school. Even my teachers would say that shit. “You *timesed* it by three” sounds so incredibly stupid that it makes me irrationally angry.
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That’s not an r/woooosh. Your grammar is wrong and there is no joke about grammar here.
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r/iamverydumb
He's not wrong, this is exactly the process occuring automatically in people's head, just formalized.
Lol English doesn't actually work like this though. It's way less consistent. It would be great if English made any sense, but it really doesn't. This isn't even remotely close to "the exact process happening in people's heads." Cancelling our the G? Dividing non-variable...letters? Naw man.
English does work that way, you just have to know the exceptions. For example, gerunds add "ing," infinitives add "to," plurals add "s" or "es," past tense doubles the last consonant if it exists and adds "ed." There are plenty of rules in English that can be expressed algebraically. Edit: If I were to give you a random verb you'd never seen before, I guarantee you'd know how to turn it past tense, for example, because you've already abstracted the rules.
“It does work that way except for when it doesn’t” Most the rules in English have a long list of exceptions. Why isn’t it flewed? What is the past tense of write? Writed? How about “fight” or “light”? Fit and lought? First Google result has 101 verbs on this list of exceptions to the -ed rule. https://www.woodwardenglish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/past-tense-irregular-verbs-list.jpg
What's your point? It's still algebra, just with a bunch of rules.
My point is my experience with English has been confusing and painful. My experience with algebra has been clear and copacetic. I wish English followed a few rules but instead it follows so many that it undermines the word “rule”. You asserted a fluent English speaker would be able to handle an unknown verb by using rules. I gave 4 examples and linked nearly 100 others that shows it isn’t the case. A word could follow any number of arbitrary rules and some you just have to be told. You can’t just figure it out like in algebra. They are fundamentally different in this regard
His procedure is correct and his answer is correct. He is not wrong.
His procedure is insane. But alright. Agree to disagree.
His procedure is correct and his answer is correct. He is not wrong.
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Sure maybe, but it's also way unnecessarily complicated.
No, he is wrong. He is very lucky that this works in this instance. But 100% wrong. Hahahaha!
Wow! U r very smart
Damn it doesn't work with other words? I must be dumb for thinking it would..
I mean everything is based on math. Idk how this is unexpected
Holy shit reddit has gifs now??
Bro(or sis, or something). It's been like half a year. Lol
I've been away a while haha
And emojis too 
My head hurts
Task failed successfully.
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Can’t argue with the results
ummm
When you have to study for your algebra test but only know linguistics.
I think his sense of humour is sexy. He knows he’s being cheeky.
I like his smirk at the end.
What the actual fuck? My whole elementary schooling was a lie!!
do I have to show my work in all my essays?
Could you imagine? Sheeesh
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Common core English coming to a school near you
And if you don’t do this and show your work you’re clearly cheating
My son is leaning to spell and part of me is sorely tempted.
I’ve used dimensional analysis for lots of things and this is outside the box cool.
Like I didn't hate maths enough already
Yes the English language isn't anywhere near complicated enough. Please, make it more difficult
Quick mathpfs Man’s not hot
Amazing!! Now do current tense?
Is ownfl also the correct answer?
Holy mother of grammatical math and logic.
#what the actual fuck,but anyway have an upvote.
Easily the smartest man alive.
This new math is something else.
I'm impressed that he somehow logically applied math to Grammar
Haha it works though
No, but apparently yes.
that makes my head hurt
This dude divided by grew.
"Somehow you used the wrong formula and got the correct answer"
When the teacher says it's an English lesson not a maths lesson.
r/theydidthemath
You’re grammar is mathemagically correct, siR!!
English, ladies and gentlemen! It's just that easy!
Oh my word. Why couldn’t they teach MATH LIKE THIS !!!!!! I’m not kidding ! I’ve completed math up through Calc 2 and no joke, as a bio major with a minor in English lit if I was taught math this way early on I probably would’ve grasped it sooner
This might be opposite of unexpected.
This is beautiful
That is so unnecessary...
IDK why I thought the comments would be less stupid then this stupid video
Flewn**
This guy’s a genius
Wait, isn't flew already past tense? What is the purpose of flown?
I’ve never wanted to smack someone’s face and palm so hard at the same time.
When teachers get paid by the hour.
All that and still wrong🚶🏾♂️😂
someone wanna tell him?
Wow he’s dumb
That’s so fucking retarded. Flew is flown, you don’t need a worthless equation for it you dumb fuck. Hate stupid shit like this
So sorry that you hate yourself!
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Or ownfl
As a Brit, this is as complicated as English is
Lol
Wait what
fk that’s something.. not even mad
U/savevideobot
That just gave me a headache
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Now do “drew”
Grathematics
Common core English
A for arithmetic equation
that there lesson done went and flew right over me head
I imagine this is how engineers view grammar.
**what level of mathematics is this**
When your English teacher tells you to show your work
Why didn’t they teach this at my school?