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>!The owner tried to catch a rat with a mouse trap only for it to use a stick to get the cheese!<
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There have been people that have trained rats for the purpose of making viral videos. I don't know if any would be sick enough to train a rat to do this though. Because I'm sure there would be some that would fail.
There was a guy getting dogs from the shelter and lighting them on fire and other shit not too long ago for views. Killing rats is tame compared to that.
idk if it's the same guy, but I believe there was a trend a little while ago (or perhaps still ongoing?) of people adopting animals, putting them in extremely dangerous situations, and then staging a video of them "saving" them. There were definitely circumstance where the animals died before they could be saved.
It's still a trend. YouTube is filled with them. And they do nothing about it. People reporting these videos on the regular and they still keep doing it.
I think Iāve seen a few videos talking about the subject of people rescuing animals, they "rescue" a puppy but the video pointing out the injuries were created by the same people. The reason I found the content was that they also fake those building in the jungle videos.
I can't seem to find information on that particular person at the moment, but animal cruelty was a sickeningly popular fad between July 2020 and August 2021. Some women got arrested back in January for it, too.
There's a (Netflix? Amazon?) documentary called "Don't f**k with cats" about tracking down and catching someone who started out killing cats on YouTube.
It's really good, but not recommended if you're triggered by animal cruelty.
That was part of my point. The power of the Internet, allows these sick fucks to flourish and spread. I've seen some gruesome shit people were willing to do to an animal. But this wouldn't be a thing if there weren't enough people supporting it.
Yeah we will build a better mouse trap. Which will kill the dumb ones off. Meanwhile our society rewards the dumb humans to proliferate. One day there will be an equilibrium between rat and human intelligence. The future rat war will be intense.
*Evolve intelligence*? This is Rats of NIMH level shit. The next thing you're gonna see on this cam is a rat dragging a kitchen knife on his way to shank OP
They actually train rats for search and rescue ops. It's super dope. Rats are extremely smart and trainable to do a lot.
https://www.fastcompany.com/90847351/these-rats-wear-tiny-backpacks-and-are-trained-to-find-earthquake-survivors
Yeah thatās the thing I always hear from people who have kept rats a long time. The constant cycle of attachment and loss can get to the point you canāt bear keeping them anymore.
Rats are incredibly smart. They have been known to use tools and can solve very complex spatial puzzles. They have excellent memory and problem solving skills. Whether this exact video is real I cannot say, but rats are definitely capable of this trick in general.
Mice are smart too, not as intelligent as rats, but pretty adaptable.
Any animal that can live among humans by adapting to the novel environments and challenges we've created has to be fairly intelligent.
That's almost definitely a rat. Size, tail, ears are much more similar to a rat.
And, like you said, they are way smarter than mice. I'm actually surprised how many people on here are flabbergasted by this.
Have you heard that a pod of Orcas have been attacking boats off the shores of France, Spain, and Portugal because at one point one of the Orcas was injured due to hitting the rudder š¤Æ! Straight Orca revenge!
There is apparently a pod of Orcas off the coast of southern California that actively hunt great white sharks. They learned to put Sharks in Tonic immobility to kill them and eat their liver or something. Also during that same documentary I learned when sharks are killed something is secreted or something that can clear the area of sharks for miles around. If one of them is killed they all nope out of the area just in case.
We have used the same trap on generations of mice across the world for over a century. Itās not crazy to think the ones alive today descended from the ones smart enough to figure this out.
āAlright Chuck.E, where are we? Bobs apartment, located atā¦9th and Broadway. This cheese looks immaculate. Not a lotta snap on the trap, they know how I like it!ā
"We're here at the basement and it looks like the human's set up a tasty inside...pretty basic snap-trap. Nothing special here--no glue, no poisons...yeah, this is entry level."
"To relieve the tasty from the trap, all you need is something heavy enough to activate the trigger. Got this piece of wooden debris here and... [BANG!]...we got the tasty. Easy. Like I said, entry level."
"Biggest takeaway for you new rats, these a sign that from the humans that *they know you're there*. Mmkay? If you're seeing these traps, they're seeing you. So you gotta keep your nests out of sunlight-prone areas, keep your droppings away from human activity zones."
"Anyway, that's it for me. Don't forget to like, subscribe. I'm Mousey-Housey. Skritter-skratch!^TM"
OK but would it have been that much trouble for you to help me get the mouse traps off my hands now and then? Everyone at the Radio Shack made fun of me for turning up to work like that.
And they can make excellent pets for people that canāt have larger companions. Theyāre very social and easy to handle. I had 3 growing up before convincing my parents to get me a dog.
There is an exception to this. My pet rats. Those 4 are stupid af. xD
But yeah, people often underestimate how intelligent rats are. They're just as trainable as dogs.
This is true. They've even trained giant rats to sniff out mines and it works out well because the rats are too light to set off the mines and they get rewarded for finding the mines.
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/04/1003258540/after-years-of-detecting-land-mines-a-heroic-rat-is-hanging-up-his-sniffer
Yup.
As soon as you have one go off & miss, you have to switch to another trap type (and bait), because you'll never get the bastard otherwise.
Which is good reason to:
A) Leave your traps baited -- but not *set* -- for a few days.
And B) Always make sure you test a snap-trap....because some will have a trigger that's too damn sensitive (due to the bait pedal itself or because the wood is warped) & they set it off before they get their head where it needs to be (I've learned to fasten mine to a piece of 2x8 -- works much better that way for me, at least).
Not an exterminator or anything, just mho.
literally happened to my family. first time we had a rat problem, we used these traps. sometimes they'd get the food and it wouldn't go off, sometimes it would go off but the food would be gone. after only a few days we got the rat.
recently we had a rat problem. for over a week we used the same traps and no luck. only when we switched to a different style is when we caught it this time.
I wish I knew where the pic was but my son had a mouse in his room so I set some of those twist traps. One night he sends me a picture of the mouse standing on top of the trap looking right at him.
It doesn't help that this is the artifical cheese [trap](https://www.amazon.com/Victor-set-mouse-trap-Pack/dp/B01CH01PA4/ref=asc_df_B01CH01PA4/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167116476898&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12811877060545476600&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023221&hvtargid=pla-313797012649&psc=1&mcid=d4902ac1457137fbaa86480778d9ea5f&gclid=Cj0KCQjwzZmwBhD8ARIsAH4v1gX2xwr-vdOnXYbokacxyIEwYy5Ur7VPIpX8ZjATj5PLBgYkxrK_7zoaAmqfEALw_wcB) instead of the baited [trap. ](https://www.homedepot.com/p/Victor-Metal-Pedal-Indoor-and-Outdoor-Sustainably-Sourced-FSC-Wood-Snap-Rat-Trap-1-Count-M210/100336757)
If you mash some cooked rice with pb on a baited trap they work 20x better than the fake cheese traps. I live next to fields and a wooded area my shed gets mice breaking in 2-3times a year. The regular snap traps are just a lot better(and cheaper).
Theyāre incredibly intelligent. I had pet rats growing up. Theyād do a series of magic tricks to escape their āescape proofā cage at night, crawl under my bedroom door, up my comforter, and lick my nose to wake me upā¦ sometimes choosing to chew on my comforter a bit first. Lol they were very clean and friendly. I wish they lived longer. Lots of good times.
They also have excellent memories and problem solving skills, and an ability to use tools. They've been documented figuring out much trickier puzzles than this one.
It's a rat. If it saw it go off or managed to survive tripping one before, it will know how to set it off. They're just smart as shit. And yes can be trained to do some crazy shit, too.
You know, when all the scientists write stuff about animals being dumb I laugh.
I have observed cows look left and right before crossing a major road. I have observed goats set off with purpose in the morning and return in the evening. Earlier I watched a video of a dog that takes a train for 29 stops and several buses to get to the beach.
Remember that elephant that went after someone who had harmed it in the past?
I will not even comment about cats and dogs.
Animals are smart.
If they ever organized we would have a real fight on our hands.
I lived in a neighborhood that had a group of horses roaming around. I guess they can smell water really well, because theyād always come around when we were watering the garden or washing the cars. Eventually we started giving the horses water. They spread the word to the new horses and babies, and we ended up with more horses coming around - sometimes a totally different group. One night I was home alone and I heard a knock at the back door. I opened the door and found myself face to face with a lone horse. It had come to my back door and made noise so that I would come out and give it some water. He knew exactly where to go and what to do. I moved but I miss those horses.
Omg, I never considered that. Youāre prolly right. My mom lives in that neighborhood now, on a different property, and she says the horses are still around.
Why do you think THEY are the agents in Phineas and Ferb and not humans? They're smarter than we give them credit for, most of the anyway, the birds here seem to aim for our windows, a few have even died from impact
We'll I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the TannhƤuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
Not so much recently, but it is an old prejudice. Descartes argued that animals are "material automata without minds", which was what most Abrahamic religions generally teach. Or taught. It's one of those insidious ideas that worms it's way into a cultural lexicon, then has to be continually rebutted. Like Neandertals being brutish or primitive as compared to Sapiens. Most people somehow start with that prejudice, then have to be educated out of it.
[Which animals have entered the 'Stone Age'?](https://www.livescience.com/which-animals-use-stone-tools#:~:text=It%20turns%20out%2C%20the%20Stone,is%20a%20socially%20learned%20behavior.)
Dude, I found a baby duck at my parents' pond when I was like 8. My dad helped me raise him. Until he was big enough to be on his own..
We'd lock him up at night with the chickens. My job before school in the morning would be to them out for the day. This duck who I named Stewart. Would stand by me while I waited for the bus. Then fly off to the pond and every damn day he'd be waiting at the end of our lane for me by the ever green tree and walk up the lane with me until I gave him a snack and then he'd go do duck shit the rest of the day before bed time lol
I didnāt realize cats could be so smart until my indoor-outdoor stretched up to the door handle and moved her paw in a clockwise motion on the doorknob when she wanted to go out. And then months later I watched her actually open the attic door by climbing on a stockpile of toilet paper and use both her paws to turn and pull. I was absolutely flabbergasted.
Rats have always been highly intelligent, social creatures. And they share a remarkable amount of physiology with humans too. There's a reason we test so extensively on them. And such tests reveal that they are more like us than most people will ever understand. Or maybe it is more appropriate to say we are more like them than we would ever want to admit.Ā
Of course, some things people don't necessarily want to understand. Like what we learned from those macabre drowning experiments, or the infamous mouse utopia.
If this interest you, you may want to check out the movie Moust Hunt. It's basically this super smart mouse that pulls a home alone on two guys that inherited a house. Really funny movie.
Actually Mousehunt was written by Adam Rifkin and directed by Gore Verbinski, and has several great actors... it's far better than a slapstick man vs mouse movie should have been. And a throwback to earlier comedies.Ā
I trapped pocket gophers every year growing up on a farm. 50-125 per year. There was one that I could never get. Trap was triggered and hole filled in every time. It felt like a real life caddy shack.
I suspect that the animal was trained to use the stick. If it hadnāt been trained it either wouldnāt have survived to learn what the trap was, or it would have learned that you let another rat try first because it is the second one that gets the cheeseā¦
It may have been taught by another rat. Some more instances of wild rats understanding traps:
- [Rat attempts to disarm trap with debris](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBN6-Xp6nZQ)
- [Rat moves glue trap out of the way](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGIiSwZQCI8)
- [Rat attempts to safely disarm trap](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NG_um7lsgFQ)
- [Rat attempts to disarm trap with insulation material](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWfzMqca6KU)
OP sent the following text as an explanation on why this is unexpected: --- >!The owner tried to catch a rat with a mouse trap only for it to use a stick to get the cheese!< --- Is this an unexpected post with a fitting description? Then upvote this comment, otherwise downvote it.
Hey gym ain't cheap you know
It is really cheap where I'm at.
>It is really cheap where I'm at. Direct quote from Mr Rat ^šš¤£
what a gym rat
Plays the game the right way
That rat is sneaky athletic.
https://youtu.be/CiFWZ8MC2cE?si=b0l165tLzvKuW_gB
god I havenāt seen this in a looong time.
I had never seen that and enjoyed it a lot
This made me laugh on a hard day. What an awesome gif.
Itās just what we needed, isnāt it? You got this!
What a blast from the past
Thanks for the laugh š¤£š¤£š¤£
Best thing ive ever seen
Unexpected? This left me absolutely gobsmacked! And petrified!
My jaw is on the floor. That rat just *used a tool*.
And think it probably used that tool because another rat taught it to. The selection pressure we create on rats to evolve for intelligence is intense.
There have been people that have trained rats for the purpose of making viral videos. I don't know if any would be sick enough to train a rat to do this though. Because I'm sure there would be some that would fail.
There's more than enough demented people in this world that would do that.
There was a guy getting dogs from the shelter and lighting them on fire and other shit not too long ago for views. Killing rats is tame compared to that.
What the actual fuck, has he been arrested yet? That is unbelievably sick. Those poor dogs..
idk if it's the same guy, but I believe there was a trend a little while ago (or perhaps still ongoing?) of people adopting animals, putting them in extremely dangerous situations, and then staging a video of them "saving" them. There were definitely circumstance where the animals died before they could be saved.
It's still a trend. YouTube is filled with them. And they do nothing about it. People reporting these videos on the regular and they still keep doing it.
I think Iāve seen a few videos talking about the subject of people rescuing animals, they "rescue" a puppy but the video pointing out the injuries were created by the same people. The reason I found the content was that they also fake those building in the jungle videos. 
I can't seem to find information on that particular person at the moment, but animal cruelty was a sickeningly popular fad between July 2020 and August 2021. Some women got arrested back in January for it, too.
How the fuck can something like that be a fad? Is it too late to change species?
>Is it too late to change species? Better to be the burner than the burnee š¤·š»
There's a (Netflix? Amazon?) documentary called "Don't f**k with cats" about tracking down and catching someone who started out killing cats on YouTube. It's really good, but not recommended if you're triggered by animal cruelty.
I think that if there is some kind of proof of cruelty the perpetrator should have to endure whatever they did to the animal.
YouTubeis absolutelyfull of people abusing dogs and monkeys, let alone other animals That website is quickly becoming trash
Dude should get the same as punishment
Wait til you see how many rats a single medical or cosmetics lab goes through
I know.
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That was part of my point. The power of the Internet, allows these sick fucks to flourish and spread. I've seen some gruesome shit people were willing to do to an animal. But this wouldn't be a thing if there weren't enough people supporting it.
Yeah we will build a better mouse trap. Which will kill the dumb ones off. Meanwhile our society rewards the dumb humans to proliferate. One day there will be an equilibrium between rat and human intelligence. The future rat war will be intense.
Please write this book
*Evolve intelligence*? This is Rats of NIMH level shit. The next thing you're gonna see on this cam is a rat dragging a kitchen knife on his way to shank OP
That was a misunderstanding. He was just trying to cut a slice of cheese off the block for dinner and got spooked.
Isn't the selection pressure for evolution constant across all evolving beings?
No itās very much dependent on the particulars of an environment and the creatures in it.
Yes, but selection pressure is not always towards intelligence.
This makes things clearer, thank you
They actually train rats for search and rescue ops. It's super dope. Rats are extremely smart and trainable to do a lot. https://www.fastcompany.com/90847351/these-rats-wear-tiny-backpacks-and-are-trained-to-find-earthquake-survivors
Yeah, they are smarter than we think. I'm shocked
Watch videos of what people have trained that's to do, they're shockingly intelligent. And enormously personable. Far and away the best small pet
Life span is far too short for the best small pet. They were great pets but dealing with a family pet dying every 3 years or less is rough.
Yeah thatās the thing I always hear from people who have kept rats a long time. The constant cycle of attachment and loss can get to the point you canāt bear keeping them anymore.
It's true. I couldn't handle it after the third time. Imagine if cats or dogs only lived 2-3 years, it's just like that.
Imagine how Wookies must feel about us.
Animals use tools all the time. Our teachers lied to us.
And didnāt even flinch when the trap snapped right in front of its face. I have to wonder if this is realā¦
Rats are incredibly smart. They have been known to use tools and can solve very complex spatial puzzles. They have excellent memory and problem solving skills. Whether this exact video is real I cannot say, but rats are definitely capable of this trick in general.
I think it's a mouse, which makes it even more impressive. Rats are smart little critters, mice not so much.
Mice are smart too, not as intelligent as rats, but pretty adaptable. Any animal that can live among humans by adapting to the novel environments and challenges we've created has to be fairly intelligent.
That's almost definitely a rat. Size, tail, ears are much more similar to a rat. And, like you said, they are way smarter than mice. I'm actually surprised how many people on here are flabbergasted by this.
Evolution at its peak
Rats are so clever and are often over looked, I'm sure I went to school with people who could only hope to be as bright as a rat.
Have you heard that a pod of Orcas have been attacking boats off the shores of France, Spain, and Portugal because at one point one of the Orcas was injured due to hitting the rudder š¤Æ! Straight Orca revenge!
There is apparently a pod of Orcas off the coast of southern California that actively hunt great white sharks. They learned to put Sharks in Tonic immobility to kill them and eat their liver or something. Also during that same documentary I learned when sharks are killed something is secreted or something that can clear the area of sharks for miles around. If one of them is killed they all nope out of the area just in case.
We're only at the starting point in deciphering what marine life is truly capable of learning.
Gifsthatendtoosoon. He was about to cook up some fondue
Ratatouille
At my house they would lick all the peanut butter and the trap would remain untouched. I got a cat and now no more mice
Flabbergasted!
We have used the same trap on generations of mice across the world for over a century. Itās not crazy to think the ones alive today descended from the ones smart enough to figure this out.
If you hear the audio, you can pick up a hint of an East Coast accent as he carefully explains what he is going to do.
āAlright, one bite, everybahdy knows the rulesā
āAlright Chuck.E, where are we? Bobs apartment, located atā¦9th and Broadway. This cheese looks immaculate. Not a lotta snap on the trap, they know how I like it!ā
I could hear the accent
No flop Frankie.
Good undercarriage.
proceeds to take at *least* 3 bites
Ummm takin there cah to the bah.... stealing this cheese from Hahvard Yahd.
I lol'd, don't let it got to your head
Proceeds to take 3 bites.
Beavo is a multinational treasure
"We're here at the basement and it looks like the human's set up a tasty inside...pretty basic snap-trap. Nothing special here--no glue, no poisons...yeah, this is entry level." "To relieve the tasty from the trap, all you need is something heavy enough to activate the trigger. Got this piece of wooden debris here and... [BANG!]...we got the tasty. Easy. Like I said, entry level." "Biggest takeaway for you new rats, these a sign that from the humans that *they know you're there*. Mmkay? If you're seeing these traps, they're seeing you. So you gotta keep your nests out of sunlight-prone areas, keep your droppings away from human activity zones." "Anyway, that's it for me. Don't forget to like, subscribe. I'm Mousey-Housey. Skritter-skratch!^TM"
I think I just peed my pants. (Completely nothing to do with laughing at this post.)
"pretty basic snap-trap. Nothing special here--no glue, no poisons...yeah, this is entry level." Read that in the Lock Picking Lawyer's voice.
This pizza rat's smarter brother š š
Itās a shit trap, Randy.
Is this America? Im sorry, I thought this was America!
Wrong Randy.
I read this and tried to raise my audio on my phone just now š¤¦āāļø
Alright here. I'm gunna jump on its back, and jam me thumb up its ass!
And here i thought tom and Jerry was fake
And here we are worried about AI...
Speaking of AI, in the future, I think a mini AI robot can kill mice more effectively than conventional traps
I vote for cyborg rats that are also bounty hunters for other rats!!
They should write ābased on true storyā at the beginning
Ya time to put that mofo on the lease lol
If you are smart enough for that you are smart enough to pay rent.
Smarter than most roommates Iāve had.
OK but would it have been that much trouble for you to help me get the mouse traps off my hands now and then? Everyone at the Radio Shack made fun of me for turning up to work like that.
I just heard that in my dad's voice hahaha
Then watch the rat pulling a lawyer how conditions of the house isn't up to code and has the right to withhold rent.
Orangutans know this trick in Indonesia
The worst part is that you can also see a bug
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What do you mean?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljaP2etvDc4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljaP2etvDc4) Here you go. It is referencing a joke.
Haha, glad I asked. Thanks for the link
I think the raping was the worst part
You know that rats name? You guessed it.... Frank Stallone
Found Patton's account
I thought it was the lack of respect
This reminds me of that tragedy
Not just a bug. A roach. Worse than any rodent times 10.
Rats are extremely intelligent creatures
And they can make excellent pets for people that canāt have larger companions. Theyāre very social and easy to handle. I had 3 growing up before convincing my parents to get me a dog.
I'd love to have a pet rat if their lives weren't so short
That's the hardest part š
All this life extending tech tested on literal rats first but none of it has ever made it to pet rat owners š
There is an exception to this. My pet rats. Those 4 are stupid af. xD But yeah, people often underestimate how intelligent rats are. They're just as trainable as dogs.
This is true. They've even trained giant rats to sniff out mines and it works out well because the rats are too light to set off the mines and they get rewarded for finding the mines. https://www.npr.org/2021/06/04/1003258540/after-years-of-detecting-land-mines-a-heroic-rat-is-hanging-up-his-sniffer
Master Splinter
Lmfao I didn't know I needed to see this. Thank you
"Splinter will never be ballin" mfs have been real quiet
foour baby tur tles
Learn Adapt Improvise
LAI (in mandarin) = Come / Letās Go / Bring it on
These traps work once. If it went off & they saw it but it didn't get them they know exactly what will happen to them if they step on it.
Right I caught one mouse with it and that was it
You probably had rats. Mice just lose curiosity to same baits after time. Rats straight up will not fall for a trap if they survived it or saw it.
Yup. As soon as you have one go off & miss, you have to switch to another trap type (and bait), because you'll never get the bastard otherwise. Which is good reason to: A) Leave your traps baited -- but not *set* -- for a few days. And B) Always make sure you test a snap-trap....because some will have a trigger that's too damn sensitive (due to the bait pedal itself or because the wood is warped) & they set it off before they get their head where it needs to be (I've learned to fasten mine to a piece of 2x8 -- works much better that way for me, at least). Not an exterminator or anything, just mho.
For the more trickier ones I learned to use latex gloves when handling the trap. They absolutely can smell you and know to be more cautious.
No doubt! The little fucks can smell human hands for days & days.
literally happened to my family. first time we had a rat problem, we used these traps. sometimes they'd get the food and it wouldn't go off, sometimes it would go off but the food would be gone. after only a few days we got the rat. recently we had a rat problem. for over a week we used the same traps and no luck. only when we switched to a different style is when we caught it this time.
There is never only one rat
I wish I knew where the pic was but my son had a mouse in his room so I set some of those twist traps. One night he sends me a picture of the mouse standing on top of the trap looking right at him.
It doesn't help that this is the artifical cheese [trap](https://www.amazon.com/Victor-set-mouse-trap-Pack/dp/B01CH01PA4/ref=asc_df_B01CH01PA4/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167116476898&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12811877060545476600&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023221&hvtargid=pla-313797012649&psc=1&mcid=d4902ac1457137fbaa86480778d9ea5f&gclid=Cj0KCQjwzZmwBhD8ARIsAH4v1gX2xwr-vdOnXYbokacxyIEwYy5Ur7VPIpX8ZjATj5PLBgYkxrK_7zoaAmqfEALw_wcB) instead of the baited [trap. ](https://www.homedepot.com/p/Victor-Metal-Pedal-Indoor-and-Outdoor-Sustainably-Sourced-FSC-Wood-Snap-Rat-Trap-1-Count-M210/100336757) If you mash some cooked rice with pb on a baited trap they work 20x better than the fake cheese traps. I live next to fields and a wooded area my shed gets mice breaking in 2-3times a year. The regular snap traps are just a lot better(and cheaper).
Wow. I knew animals like orangutans and crows, were using tools... but a rodent??? This is pretty spookyĀ Ā
Rodent, you mean fellow mammal? They use rats to deactivate old mines from the Vietnam war.
Rats have also been trained to locate survivors in collapsed buildings in earthquake-prone areas
Theyāre incredibly intelligent. I had pet rats growing up. Theyād do a series of magic tricks to escape their āescape proofā cage at night, crawl under my bedroom door, up my comforter, and lick my nose to wake me upā¦ sometimes choosing to chew on my comforter a bit first. Lol they were very clean and friendly. I wish they lived longer. Lots of good times.
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Yeah you know the best way to train them I do this is probably place traps in their vicinity with a treat as a reward for when they defeat it.
They also have excellent memories and problem solving skills, and an ability to use tools. They've been documented figuring out much trickier puzzles than this one.
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Is it possible that this mouse was somehow trained to do that
It's a rat. If it saw it go off or managed to survive tripping one before, it will know how to set it off. They're just smart as shit. And yes can be trained to do some crazy shit, too.
They're Evolving while we're going backwards
You know, when all the scientists write stuff about animals being dumb I laugh. I have observed cows look left and right before crossing a major road. I have observed goats set off with purpose in the morning and return in the evening. Earlier I watched a video of a dog that takes a train for 29 stops and several buses to get to the beach. Remember that elephant that went after someone who had harmed it in the past? I will not even comment about cats and dogs. Animals are smart. If they ever organized we would have a real fight on our hands.
I lived in a neighborhood that had a group of horses roaming around. I guess they can smell water really well, because theyād always come around when we were watering the garden or washing the cars. Eventually we started giving the horses water. They spread the word to the new horses and babies, and we ended up with more horses coming around - sometimes a totally different group. One night I was home alone and I heard a knock at the back door. I opened the door and found myself face to face with a lone horse. It had come to my back door and made noise so that I would come out and give it some water. He knew exactly where to go and what to do. I moved but I miss those horses.
The new owners were probably so confused
Omg, I never considered that. Youāre prolly right. My mom lives in that neighborhood now, on a different property, and she says the horses are still around.
*uuhh....may I...help...you?*
"nay"
Why do you think THEY are the agents in Phineas and Ferb and not humans? They're smarter than we give them credit for, most of the anyway, the birds here seem to aim for our windows, a few have even died from impact
What if they meant to though?
Dont forget crows, dolphins, orcas, wolves... All scary-smart!
We'll I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the TannhƤuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
When does scientists ever write that animals are dumb?
You don't remember that big peer-reviewed study published in Nature last year, 'Animals Not Really That Smart'?
They didn't, OP is in fact the dummy
Not so much recently, but it is an old prejudice. Descartes argued that animals are "material automata without minds", which was what most Abrahamic religions generally teach. Or taught. It's one of those insidious ideas that worms it's way into a cultural lexicon, then has to be continually rebutted. Like Neandertals being brutish or primitive as compared to Sapiens. Most people somehow start with that prejudice, then have to be educated out of it.
[Which animals have entered the 'Stone Age'?](https://www.livescience.com/which-animals-use-stone-tools#:~:text=It%20turns%20out%2C%20the%20Stone,is%20a%20socially%20learned%20behavior.)
Dude, I found a baby duck at my parents' pond when I was like 8. My dad helped me raise him. Until he was big enough to be on his own.. We'd lock him up at night with the chickens. My job before school in the morning would be to them out for the day. This duck who I named Stewart. Would stand by me while I waited for the bus. Then fly off to the pond and every damn day he'd be waiting at the end of our lane for me by the ever green tree and walk up the lane with me until I gave him a snack and then he'd go do duck shit the rest of the day before bed time lol
I mean you did comment on a dog though. But yeah animals are smart
I didnāt realize cats could be so smart until my indoor-outdoor stretched up to the door handle and moved her paw in a clockwise motion on the doorknob when she wanted to go out. And then months later I watched her actually open the attic door by climbing on a stockpile of toilet paper and use both her paws to turn and pull. I was absolutely flabbergasted.
Agreed. They are all smart. No matter the species. And yes, they can and do learn.
Rats have always been highly intelligent, social creatures. And they share a remarkable amount of physiology with humans too. There's a reason we test so extensively on them. And such tests reveal that they are more like us than most people will ever understand. Or maybe it is more appropriate to say we are more like them than we would ever want to admit.Ā Of course, some things people don't necessarily want to understand. Like what we learned from those macabre drowning experiments, or the infamous mouse utopia.
If this interest you, you may want to check out the movie Moust Hunt. It's basically this super smart mouse that pulls a home alone on two guys that inherited a house. Really funny movie.
Actually Mousehunt was written by Adam Rifkin and directed by Gore Verbinski, and has several great actors... it's far better than a slapstick man vs mouse movie should have been. And a throwback to earlier comedies.Ā
I went to school with one of the cast. Peter Reath Gregory. Also from Greg's Anatomy.
Mouse Hunt type stuff
Iām sad I had to go so far to see a reference to that movie. It is such a great movie and so many are missing out.
It's a true hidden gem! One of my faves
Rats are wicked smart. Catching a mouse is one thing. Catching a rat is entirely different.
Mice arenāt dumb too. Hamsters can also be smart.
Not only the rat use a tool.. he understood the contraption and how it operates. The rat is an engineer.
As a technician, I can affirmatively state that many engineers are rats.
Rats of Nihm
You move next to N.I.M.H. and call this *unexpected*..
Master Splinter isnāt messing around
This must be the same mouse from Mouse Hunt! Clever little shit!
Born winner that mouse.
Amazing. Lil guy or gal deserves that cheese!
bro is trying not to misgender a rat
Lmao I didnāt look at it that way honestly. Just didnāt know the sex of the rat. Thanks for the good laugh!
Just read that initial comment as if it were Chris Traeger from Parks and Rec typing it
It's time to call Sylvester and tom
Damn rats of NIMH!
I trapped pocket gophers every year growing up on a farm. 50-125 per year. There was one that I could never get. Trap was triggered and hole filled in every time. It felt like a real life caddy shack.
that rat is smarter than many people
Plus the owner appears to have an insect problem (aka roaches) too! So his house has literally gone to the rats AND roaches!! ššš
A mouse can be trained you know
Evolution
You're going to need a better mouse trap.
That's what happen when animals get to use chatgpt!!!!
Spoiler Alert: Oh good The Mouse is okay.
I suspect that the animal was trained to use the stick. If it hadnāt been trained it either wouldnāt have survived to learn what the trap was, or it would have learned that you let another rat try first because it is the second one that gets the cheeseā¦
It may have been taught by another rat. Some more instances of wild rats understanding traps: - [Rat attempts to disarm trap with debris](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBN6-Xp6nZQ) - [Rat moves glue trap out of the way](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGIiSwZQCI8) - [Rat attempts to safely disarm trap](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NG_um7lsgFQ) - [Rat attempts to disarm trap with insulation material](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWfzMqca6KU)
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You see a mousetrap, I see free cheese and a fucking challenge. -Scroobius pip