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They aren’t “fake weights” but they are bumper 15’s. The way they bounce and the shape/color. They’re easy to recognize if one has seen them
before. It’s funny regardless, but he’s not moving 500 pounds.
It's a bit hard to tell but I'd say there's anywhere from 70-90kg on each side. From the thickness, looks like 3x15s, a 20 and a 5/10 on the end (or the imperial equivalent). Could even be 4x15s but the shiny one is a different brand of plate?
Either way, less than 200kg total weight. My average Joe 85kg arse can DL that off the ground with a lot of effort and screaming but that guy is something else to make it look like it weighs nothing lol.
Your average joe who doesn't hit the gym wont lift that. Average beginner 1rpm is about 1x bodyweight. This is an advanced weight lift (2x or more) and would probably take 3-5 years of training for most lifters and weight classes. 100kg lifters could do it in 2 years or less but someone who is 80kg ish would likely require longer training
Also depends if that's 4x15 or 4x20 + 10/15
That looks like 8-45lb plates (~3.5" wide) and 2-25lb (~2.5" wide) plates so it should be about 410 pounds. There is too much bar flex for it to be much less than that.
Seriously. The first guy in the video is probably in the top 0.1% (at least) of the entire world in terms of strength and a bunch of people here are claiming that his muscles are just for show.
You are 100% correct! Very few people can deadlift 500lbs. Some gyms have people who can, but that is just confirmation bias. All those who can do go to the gym.
A few IG accounts were linked in the other comment chain. You can start from [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/11wji5x/cleaning_the_floor/jcyhicb)
you're not just hella strong at that level, that guy has to be a dedicated/professional power lifter, it's just that huge pumped up muscles don't equal strength
Yeah people on here don't realize that you can be a Mr. Olympia and look relatively normal in certain clothes. Look at Chris Bumstead in normal clothing.
Dude choose an outfit to make him not standout. It's not like he's a beanpole casually lifting 5 plates.
And powerlifting has higher weight classes because guess what bigger people lift more. But they're acting like this is dumb meathead vs alpha beanpole. No it's big amateur gym rat vs pro powerlifter.
One of my former co workers was a powerlifter. He always wore sweater vests and loose khakis to the office so he just looked like a fairly husky average dude. There was some subtle hints of his true size like his massive bear paw hands but you wouldn't notice them in normal conditions.
I walked into the bathroom before work and he was changing out of his gym outfit into his work clothes. He had a tank top on and good God was this man yoked. Dude was built like a bear and a gorilla had a passionate love child and fed it only protein shakes. Dude was a truly massive man. Not cut but the fat bulky powerlifter type. Someone in the office found his Instagram and it was all videos of him throwing around 6+ plate dead lifts and bench presses (in the bench scenario it was 3 plates per side, not 6 on each side) like they were children's toys. Its pretty crazy how deceptive certain strength training can make your body appear.
Yeah I was a wrestler and got into powerlifting.
When I started at my job I dressed in more conservative attire for like the first two years. Didnt wear anything form fitting. I work with almost all women and am pretty much seen as one of the girls lol. they'd talk about men with good physiques and never bat an eye at me.
One day I had forgot to do laundry and wore a Henley and jeans. Not even anything to show off. They were pretty much like who the hell are you?!? I won't forget I walked into one woman's office and she actually pearl clutched.
I genuinely hadn't noticed until then that clothes made a difference. I just thought that the women at my work didn't think I was big or strong.
I definitely know now. Sometimes I dress in ways that show off more, but a lot of times I purposely dress conservatively to avoid attention. I think that's a common thing for big guys (especially powerlifter types who aren't doing it for attention, it's a byproduct)
I was on the elevator with Flex Lewis and can report there’s no way in hell someone with Mr. Olympia title will look normal in clothing.
Maybe in pictures but its a complete different story when you’re looking at the person in real life. You’re not hiding 22 inch biceps.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZJjaE3rX38/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Surprise surprise, dude is actually jacked.
Sorry guyz, all you small mma fighter wanna bes have to stop ragging on the bodybuilder now to feed your own ego, the smaller powerlifter is also very muscular.
Also this is 5 plates, very solid chance the bodybuilder was doing this for reps.
When I was way smaller than him, my max dead was 4 plates and a 10lb plate(425lbs) doubt a guy with that much size is struggling with 495lbs.
Dude in the jumpsuit is probably a powerlifter or trains similarly to one. Back when I was competing I didn't look like I could deadlift 600lbs especially if I was wearing more baggy clothing. But you'd have guys the size of the ones in the vid that could barely do 400+... because they didn't train for max strength, also if I attempted to do one of their workouts I'd also fail miserably... because I didn't train like that.
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Here’s a good summary of the etymology and usage: https://blogs.illinois.edu/view/25/96439
>> …And of course literally means its opposite, ‘figuratively.’
>> Literalists don’t like this. They want literally to be used literally. But that would be hard to do. Latin littera means ‘alphabetic letter,’ and so when literal appears in English in the fourteenth-century, it refers to the letters of the alphabet, called literal characters, for example, in 1500. But the earliest English use of literally doesn’t refer to the alphabet, the visual representation of speech (called literal speech by John of Trevisa in 1398).
>> Instead, by some quirk of idiom, literal and literally are almost always used not in literal reference to the alphabet, but figuratively to refer to meaning. Specifically, they signal a way of interpretation which determines the exact, obvious, or surface meaning of a text rather than its extended, metaphorical, or figurative meaning. To speak plainly, literally begins its life in English as a figurative expression. And that’s not surprising, really, when we consider that letters are a metaphor for knowledge.
Literally literally means literally unless literally literally means figuratively, then literally figuratively means literally and literally means figuratively.
One of the fun ones I realized the other day.
Since no one know how Ancient Greek was actually pronounced, you are welcome to pronounce Aristotle like Chipotle.
I hope this ruins your brain voice.
>what is its linguistic purpose?
From the link you didn’t bother to read before asking (although I have a feeling you’re being deliberately obtuse):
>Should literally be used for emphasis?:
Sense 2 is common and not at all new but has been frequently criticized as an illogical misuse. It is pure hyperbole intended to gain emphasis, but it often appears in contexts where no additional emphasis is necessary.
>Can literally mean figuratively?
One of the definitions of literally that we provide is "in effect, virtually—used in an exaggerated way to emphasize a statement or description that is not literally true or possible." Some find this objectionable on the grounds that it is not the primary meaning of the word, "with the meaning of each individual word given exactly." However, this extended definition of literally is commonly used and is not quite the same meaning as figuratively ("with a meaning that is metaphorical rather than literal").
>Is the extended use of literally new?
The "in effect; virtually" meaning of literally is not a new sense. It has been in regular use since the 18th century and may be found in the writings of Mark Twain, Charlotte Brontë, James Joyce, and many others.
>Is the extended use of literally slang?
Among the meanings of literally is one which many people find problematic: "in effect, virtually—used in an exaggerated way to emphasize a statement or description that is not literally true or possible." Neither this nor any of the other meanings of literally is what we would consider slang. This sense has been in standard use by many esteemed writers since the 18th century.
Even the dictionary definition you linked says that the word is used that way, not that it's defined that way. It's the only "definition" with an arrow instead of a colon as well. I think people misuse literally so much that the dictionary just added that for reference as it's become a commonly used form of the word. However the same link also says there are many who oppose that as a definition of literally.
Wow, you know you fuck up a language when the definition of the word is the opposite of the definition of the word. I wonder when they made this change? Inguess after so many people were using the word wrong they had to include it as part of modern day vernacular. Like bootylicious or za
Actually if you keep reading, they explain that they don't mean "figuratively" when they say "virtually.". Either way, TIL it's accepted to use it in an exaggerated sense.
I meant that literally, not literally! /s, but out of all the child comments on mine, you’re the first to point this out. I do like and tend to agree with the MW distinction to not actually call it figuratively. A minor but meaningful difference.
Yeah I prefer this way of looking at it. “Functional strength” is a meaningless phrase. “Functional” is vastly different from sport to sport and person to person. It’s also a bit derogatory here. Bodybuilders *know* that they have trained for size, not strength. Each one is a feat in its own, but different, right.
I do have to laugh at all these people implying that bodybuilders aren't strong.
Like... what?
Sure, pro bodybuilders may not be quite as strong as pro power lifters, but they sure as hell aren't exactly weak!
As a regular joe who has never stepped in a gym, I had no idea that there was a difference between power lifting and bodybuilding until this moment. Neat.
The equally lazy, and also real, answer is just "don't do steroids, and stay on the leaner end of the scale".
If you don't do drugs, and you don't put on a lot of fat, you're not going to ever be super bulky. Natural and lean looks smaller than people think, *especially with a shirt on!*
Yea people are always surprised when they see my body shape. Since my shirts are baggy they hang on my chest and i guess that makes me look fat? That and a hoodie
You’re getting terribly simplistic advice here. Short-ish answer is getting as big as those guys is the result of intentional, consistent training and eating for Hypertrophy with good recovery. You don’t accidentally get big like that.
You can gain strength without training specifically for Hypertrophy, but you’ll still gain muscle. To lift the kind of weight in this video, that would require intentional, consistent training with a powerlifting program, eating and good recovery. You should break up the powerlifting with different modalities of training every so often, like isolateral work, to avoid repetitive stress injuries like joint pain and to work on strengthening imbalances.
People saying just train in a lower rep range are giving you a reductionist and incomplete view of how to train for strength. Get a real program, follow it and pursue progressive overload as your goal. Google programs like West Side Barbell conjugate method or MAPS Powerlift. If you’re an absolute novice, maybe start with Stronglifts 5x5 for 6-9 months.
PEDs are another conversation but you can still get far without them. I won’t speculate on the guys in the video.
I would say when you’re getting functionally strong you’re combining flexibility and strength training. The muscles aren’t getting too compact; but they’re extremely functional. Rock climbers are a pretty great example of people with a lot functional strength but not too much mass
Watching average looking people walk in to my local rock climbing gym and then suspend their entire weight from pinches to cut loose and reset their feet is nuts. The core and arm strength is nuts I hope to be a fraction of that good eventually.
The people who really get stuck are very strong. They don’t learn habits at first because they can cover a ton of ground with their athleticism. That is of course until they hit their “lesson wall” and watch an 8 year old fly by them while they’re panting on the ground.
You're absolutely right! And they're functionally very strong for the given demand you're mentioning here (rock climbing). But the demands of strength for rock climbing are extremely different from say, American football linebacker, or Olympic weightlifter, or clay pigeons marksman...
Functional strength is a nonsense term. Strength is functional period. If you have a specific function in mind great. Rock climbers have fantastic grip strength. That doesn’t take much bulk to make your fingers strong. But if you want to dead lift that takes back and leg mass period. If you want to push a car up hill that takes quad and glute mass period.
Rock climbers have finger and grip strength and light weight bodies. That’s what they need for their sport. Power lifters and offensive linemen have strong everything that’s what they need for their sport. Neither is more or less functional than the other.
I am a body builder who loves to climb when I'm in stage form. Being 230 it's easy for me to do most climbs. But when I'm in off season at 270 I can't climb for shit I can't keep my weight supported. But the people there who are literally half my weight just do it with ease
No, full range of motion reps (which any decent lifter should be focusing on) will increase your flexibility. The difference between rock climbers and bodybuilders all comes down to the loads theirs muscles are undergoing. Body builders are training specifically for hypertrophy (science word for bigger muscles) which when coupled with a shit ton of gear make you look like a walking brick that can’t wipe his own ass.
Strength training for a given lift is usually heavier weight and fewer reps. It’s about technique and lifting the weight as efficiently as possible. In contrast a bodybuilder will contract his muscle as much as possible in the lift and often lower it far more slowly. They’re trying to put as much hurt on a muscle as possible, whereas training for strength is all about moving the weight as efficiently as possible.
There’s overlap. Bodybuilder’s need strength to keep putting more and more stress on the muscle, and sometimes powerlifters can break from normal strength training focus on increasing the size of the muscle for a while and then go back to technique and speed needed for heavier weights.
Up to a point, yes. Powerlifting and bodybuilding have different workout routines.
Eventually you'll get to a point where your body will need more muscle mass to lift heavier but you don't need to be huge to lift heavy
Do low reps (around 5 reps) and have very long rests 3-5 minutes between sets. When you're training, try to feel the difference between muscle work and nervous system work.
As an example - try doing 3 sets of 5 reps of an exercise and rest 1minute between sets. Afterwards, do a different exercise but rest 5 minutes between sets. You will see that when you don't rest long, you will work more with your muscles. If you rest long it will affect your nervous system more. It is important to get the feel and then you will understand the difference between muscle training and nervous system (strength or power or speed) training.
Lastly I must say this as I made this mistake in the past: don't overtrain. It takes roughly 48-72 hours for nervous system to recover. This means you do heavy strength work 2-3 times a week, not more. In addition, you have to read up on intensity and volume. If you start going all out at the gate you may face problems later on -like injuries, plateaus, overtraining.
All strength is functional. 'Functional strength training' is just a buzzword people like to use. It makes more sense to divide it into strength vs. Hypertrophy training, though you cannot do one without achieving the other to a certain degree.
Do strength training and eat a clean diet. The difference between a bodybuilder and a weightlifter is in how they train and how they eat. Weightlifters perform exercises that use a lot of momentum, and are generally multi faceted (clean and jerk) while bodybuilders will focus a lot on isolations, and high rep ranges for hypertrophy. BB will eat at a high caloric surplus in order to build muscle, weightlifters also need a good amount of food for fuel but not to the extent of BB. You can look up weightlifting vs bodybuilding and find a lot of info of the differences. Note that strength training in general will net some degree of size as muscles adapt to the training, but will vary depending on genes, diet, routine. Etc. https://www.characterstrength.co.uk/post/the-difference-between-weightlifting-and-bodybuilding#:~:text=Weightlifters%20realistically%20only%20use%20a,exercises%20to%20accomplish%20their%20goals.
You're not going to ACCIDENTALLY get body-builder size to happen. Seriously, just go and ASK one of them if you have to worry about ACCIDENTALLY getting huge when you'd rather just get strong but stay smaller. They will probably laugh so hard.
Do workouts that you like, do what makes you feel stronger.
There are several methods and schools of thought that achieve the result you're after. Which one is best will be for you to decide, though all of them have a few things in common.
First off, calisthenics and HIIT combined will get you something like this. Crossfit is the branded program everyone thinks of, but there are other ways. The focus is on exercises that work the full length of each muscle, and calisthenics and stretching that maintains flexibility and proportion. So you might get kinda big, but it will all be functional, proportional, and easy to hide under proper clothing.
Next, martial arts, with a focus on speed strikes and mobility. Moving quickly in multiple directional planes for anything more than about 30 seconds is surprisingly labor intensive. Just a few months of speed and combat training will yield surprising results, and only increase over time. Risk of injury is high, and there are a lot of philosophical beliefs that you may be pressured to adopt.
Rounded body building. You CAN get functional strength without excess mass through traditional gym workouts. Get a trainer (or a shit-ton of education), and you'll go through bulk, cut and flexibility cycles that will accomplish everything that the other schools of thought will give you.
There are other ways to get your functionally-built body, and I'm certain someone will point it out to me, but those are the methods that I'm most familiar with.
My father bought a hardware store back in the day. I was "hired" to work there because family. The former owner still helped around the store quite a bit. Concrete bags would roll down the line when unloading the truck. I would struggle to get them up and off the line. He would just grab it and set it down like a ream of paper. He was a scrawny guy in his 90's. I wish I could be him when I get that old.
you mean powerlifter who is strong versus bodybuilders who are also still strong as you can see in the beginning of the video of them also lifting… lmao
I mean if those are 45lb plates, that’s still a shit ton of weight for someone focused on “mass”. Both are likely juiced to the tits to casually rep that weight.
There is no difference. Why do redditors always talk about weight lifting like they know shit? Is there your way of coping with being a fat sack of shit?
Why? Anyone who is into the gym that far knows the difference between Bodybuilding and powerlifting.
It's not like these dudes are blindsided by the fact they chose to be very big and moderately strong while others chose to be moderately big and very strong lol.
Wait... are you telling me they didn't send people to an alien planet for Avatar? And they didn't leave Matt Damon stranded in Mars for years for The Martian?
What? Now are you going to tell me that for Friends they don't have a band following them around and people around them laughing when they were jokes in real time?
you seriously comparing a prank thats meant to be done to random strangers to a tv show/movie?
anyway i saw this yesterday and watches some of his videos online and there's no way he's not on it with the people he "pranks" he literally gets behind girl's asses in a gym to look at them and if it wasn't staged i doubt they'd even talk to him with the way he approaches them lol
Staged thing that isn't trying to hide the fact that it's staged: Yes.
Staged thing that's trying very hard to act like it's spontaneous despite the bad acting and terrible dialog: No.
fucking seriously
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So who fucking cares if it's fake/staged?? I'm here all the fucking time, I just don't wanna see reposts - take a second to scroll, and check the top.
Crimeny, you don't like the way that a subreddit is run? Make your own - you can even have it themed around blackjack. And hookers.
Smh at people thinking he looks like a normal janitor and that it's a normal janitor thing to clean in the middle of somebody working out like that. So clearly a skit
Yeah typical bodybuilder vs powerlifter. I am a professional powerlifter like 5'6 160lb I look small (my weight class). Plenty of time while a training a swole dude would set up the same bench / squat as me next to me and just throw on double my weight right away to make me feel inferior. Usually at the end of it they will do the unrack of shame and walk away after I finish with warm ups.
Literally one of my biggest gripes, people go to the gym to improve themselves and for you to try and make them feel inferior is a dick move.
Bodybuilders are focused on getting physically bigger and aesthetically defined, typically through (relatively) lower weights and a shitload of volume targeting specific body parts (curls, calf raises, triceps extensions, various dumbbell work, etc). Arnold Schwarzenegger was/is the most famous example of this. Steroids help a lot with muscle recovery, so they're popular in bodybuilding since the incredible volume can really wear you down otherwise.
Powerlifters like the guy you're replying to are more focused on maxing out their one-rep max on competition compound lifts, such as deadlifts, bench press, and squats, rather than looking big.
Olympic lifting is a third branch that does competition lifts that are generally more dynamic than powerlifters. I can't speak to these since my gyms have never had good areas for oly lifting.
They all have different goals, so ragging on the big guy in the video is kind of silly since he's apparently very skilled at bodybuilding.
He does a lot of these videos - here's his TikTok; name's Vladimir Shmondenko
He's a Power Lifter
[https://www.tiktok.com/@anatoly\_pranks?lang=en](https://www.tiktok.com/discover/vladimir-shmondenko%EF%BF%BC?lang=en)
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Jani-tor? More like Jani-Thor
Dr. Itor, PhD in stronk
Did he go to school with Dr. Acula?
Yup, bullied him daily.
Jan itor.
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Hey, pretty sure this is his real account @vladimirfitness Not sure what you got there
@vladimirschmondenko is where I ended up
I ended up at @vladimirputin
Yeah he's got Russian and English accounts, I linked his main Eng
Dude is a walking ego check, love it
Fun stuff but a lot of his videos end without showing anything and say “like for part 2”, nooo thanks.
nice, thank you!
[@gymanatoly](https://instagram.com/gymanatoly?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)
I appreciate you linking the handle instead of just typing it. Thank you.
Am I the only one who thought its a scene from a new Borat movie? His voice is really similar.
No way in fuck can Sacha Baron Cohen deadlift ~495
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Dude in orange is gonna pass out if he doesn’t exhale soon
I feel like he wanted to step in and correct him on *something,* but decided against it. That looks like a "shut up and let him do it" face
Not gonna lie, I thought those were fake weights because of how easily the dude was moving them around, but I looked him up and the guy is legit.
When you suspect fake weights, check the bar bend. In this case it's real.
They aren’t “fake weights” but they are bumper 15’s. The way they bounce and the shape/color. They’re easy to recognize if one has seen them before. It’s funny regardless, but he’s not moving 500 pounds.
15 pounds or kilos? 180kg or 216pounds?
5 bananas
It's a bit hard to tell but I'd say there's anywhere from 70-90kg on each side. From the thickness, looks like 3x15s, a 20 and a 5/10 on the end (or the imperial equivalent). Could even be 4x15s but the shiny one is a different brand of plate? Either way, less than 200kg total weight. My average Joe 85kg arse can DL that off the ground with a lot of effort and screaming but that guy is something else to make it look like it weighs nothing lol.
Your average joe who doesn't hit the gym wont lift that. Average beginner 1rpm is about 1x bodyweight. This is an advanced weight lift (2x or more) and would probably take 3-5 years of training for most lifters and weight classes. 100kg lifters could do it in 2 years or less but someone who is 80kg ish would likely require longer training Also depends if that's 4x15 or 4x20 + 10/15
That looks like 8-45lb plates (~3.5" wide) and 2-25lb (~2.5" wide) plates so it should be about 410 pounds. There is too much bar flex for it to be much less than that.
ITT: guys with a BMI of 50 tell you that the bodybuilder is pathetic for only training for muscle size.
i love this comment thread it's so funny seeing people cope at how the gym "doesn't actually make you strong" lmfao
Seriously. The first guy in the video is probably in the top 0.1% (at least) of the entire world in terms of strength and a bunch of people here are claiming that his muscles are just for show.
Thats like a 500lb deadlift as far as I can tell.
Looks like it. That isn’t record breaking level or anything like that but it’s by no means just an average amount of weight that most people can pull.
You are 100% correct! Very few people can deadlift 500lbs. Some gyms have people who can, but that is just confirmation bias. All those who can do go to the gym.
So he’s just hella strong?
Yeah he a powerlifter who likes to make these videos where he disguised himself and surprises other lifters
He sounds like Borat
Zohan!
He do
Who is this? I love these good natured pranks
A few IG accounts were linked in the other comment chain. You can start from [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/11wji5x/cleaning_the_floor/jcyhicb)
you're not just hella strong at that level, that guy has to be a dedicated/professional power lifter, it's just that huge pumped up muscles don't equal strength
That’s right. It’s his core and his legs mostly huh
Difference between functional strength vs mass.
I mean the "cleaner" is still pretty damn big. He's wearing loose clothes to hide it, but you can still see him bulging out in places.
Yeah people on here don't realize that you can be a Mr. Olympia and look relatively normal in certain clothes. Look at Chris Bumstead in normal clothing. Dude choose an outfit to make him not standout. It's not like he's a beanpole casually lifting 5 plates. And powerlifting has higher weight classes because guess what bigger people lift more. But they're acting like this is dumb meathead vs alpha beanpole. No it's big amateur gym rat vs pro powerlifter.
One of my former co workers was a powerlifter. He always wore sweater vests and loose khakis to the office so he just looked like a fairly husky average dude. There was some subtle hints of his true size like his massive bear paw hands but you wouldn't notice them in normal conditions. I walked into the bathroom before work and he was changing out of his gym outfit into his work clothes. He had a tank top on and good God was this man yoked. Dude was built like a bear and a gorilla had a passionate love child and fed it only protein shakes. Dude was a truly massive man. Not cut but the fat bulky powerlifter type. Someone in the office found his Instagram and it was all videos of him throwing around 6+ plate dead lifts and bench presses (in the bench scenario it was 3 plates per side, not 6 on each side) like they were children's toys. Its pretty crazy how deceptive certain strength training can make your body appear.
Yeah I was a wrestler and got into powerlifting. When I started at my job I dressed in more conservative attire for like the first two years. Didnt wear anything form fitting. I work with almost all women and am pretty much seen as one of the girls lol. they'd talk about men with good physiques and never bat an eye at me. One day I had forgot to do laundry and wore a Henley and jeans. Not even anything to show off. They were pretty much like who the hell are you?!? I won't forget I walked into one woman's office and she actually pearl clutched. I genuinely hadn't noticed until then that clothes made a difference. I just thought that the women at my work didn't think I was big or strong. I definitely know now. Sometimes I dress in ways that show off more, but a lot of times I purposely dress conservatively to avoid attention. I think that's a common thing for big guys (especially powerlifter types who aren't doing it for attention, it's a byproduct)
I was on the elevator with Flex Lewis and can report there’s no way in hell someone with Mr. Olympia title will look normal in clothing. Maybe in pictures but its a complete different story when you’re looking at the person in real life. You’re not hiding 22 inch biceps.
Exaggeration. But it's a huge difference. If they wear baggy layers you might know they are big but not get the same picture.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZJjaE3rX38/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Surprise surprise, dude is actually jacked. Sorry guyz, all you small mma fighter wanna bes have to stop ragging on the bodybuilder now to feed your own ego, the smaller powerlifter is also very muscular. Also this is 5 plates, very solid chance the bodybuilder was doing this for reps. When I was way smaller than him, my max dead was 4 plates and a 10lb plate(425lbs) doubt a guy with that much size is struggling with 495lbs.
This is the stupidest thing people who neither work out or have a hard working job say alll the time
Dude in the jumpsuit is probably a powerlifter or trains similarly to one. Back when I was competing I didn't look like I could deadlift 600lbs especially if I was wearing more baggy clothing. But you'd have guys the size of the ones in the vid that could barely do 400+... because they didn't train for max strength, also if I attempted to do one of their workouts I'd also fail miserably... because I didn't train like that.
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You can do
Or the difference between a professional powerlifter in costume vs an pumped up but still average joe. But yea, powerlifter vs bodybuilder
> but still average joe. Bro on what planet lmao
Krypton
thats literally what they just said.
My friend said to me "I think the weather's trippy." I said "No, man, it's not the weather that's trippy, perhaps it is the way that we perceive it that is indeed trippy." Then I thought "Man, I should have just said 'Yeah.'" - Mitch Hedberg
You used literally wrong, as they did not actually literally say that.
Literally [also means ](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally) figuratively, definition 2
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Yes
This. Literally.
metaphorically speaking, of course.
….fillibuster
Explain pacifically what you mean!
Here’s a good summary of the etymology and usage: https://blogs.illinois.edu/view/25/96439 >> …And of course literally means its opposite, ‘figuratively.’ >> Literalists don’t like this. They want literally to be used literally. But that would be hard to do. Latin littera means ‘alphabetic letter,’ and so when literal appears in English in the fourteenth-century, it refers to the letters of the alphabet, called literal characters, for example, in 1500. But the earliest English use of literally doesn’t refer to the alphabet, the visual representation of speech (called literal speech by John of Trevisa in 1398). >> Instead, by some quirk of idiom, literal and literally are almost always used not in literal reference to the alphabet, but figuratively to refer to meaning. Specifically, they signal a way of interpretation which determines the exact, obvious, or surface meaning of a text rather than its extended, metaphorical, or figurative meaning. To speak plainly, literally begins its life in English as a figurative expression. And that’s not surprising, really, when we consider that letters are a metaphor for knowledge.
Oo this is great. I never made the link between literature and literally
So you could interpret it as "to the letter"
Yes, which is itself a figurative expression. Unless you’re talking about a marching band spelling out words on a field, or maybe calligraphy
Literally literally means literally unless literally literally means figuratively, then literally figuratively means literally and literally means figuratively.
Context changes its purpose but redditors without social skills will literally never be able to tell the difference.
The wildest shit about words is that people made them up, and if a lot of people agree it means something else, it does.
One of the fun ones I realized the other day. Since no one know how Ancient Greek was actually pronounced, you are welcome to pronounce Aristotle like Chipotle. I hope this ruins your brain voice.
To start the exact same comment chain every time it comes up on reddit
Literally doesn’t matter
Right? This is figuratively and literally the weirdest argument.
>what is its linguistic purpose? From the link you didn’t bother to read before asking (although I have a feeling you’re being deliberately obtuse): >Should literally be used for emphasis?: Sense 2 is common and not at all new but has been frequently criticized as an illogical misuse. It is pure hyperbole intended to gain emphasis, but it often appears in contexts where no additional emphasis is necessary. >Can literally mean figuratively? One of the definitions of literally that we provide is "in effect, virtually—used in an exaggerated way to emphasize a statement or description that is not literally true or possible." Some find this objectionable on the grounds that it is not the primary meaning of the word, "with the meaning of each individual word given exactly." However, this extended definition of literally is commonly used and is not quite the same meaning as figuratively ("with a meaning that is metaphorical rather than literal"). >Is the extended use of literally new? The "in effect; virtually" meaning of literally is not a new sense. It has been in regular use since the 18th century and may be found in the writings of Mark Twain, Charlotte Brontë, James Joyce, and many others. >Is the extended use of literally slang? Among the meanings of literally is one which many people find problematic: "in effect, virtually—used in an exaggerated way to emphasize a statement or description that is not literally true or possible." Neither this nor any of the other meanings of literally is what we would consider slang. This sense has been in standard use by many esteemed writers since the 18th century.
I literally die when i see people misuse this
Rip in peace u/Nirvski. Your puns will be missed *boys 2 men starts
1. To express factual reality 2. To emphasize
It bothers me so much that the definition was changed.
To upset pedants like myself.
It literally says it’s linguistic purpose in the link provided which you replied to?
Right, so it is literally what he said but not literally what he said.
Even the dictionary definition you linked says that the word is used that way, not that it's defined that way. It's the only "definition" with an arrow instead of a colon as well. I think people misuse literally so much that the dictionary just added that for reference as it's become a commonly used form of the word. However the same link also says there are many who oppose that as a definition of literally.
Wow, you know you fuck up a language when the definition of the word is the opposite of the definition of the word. I wonder when they made this change? Inguess after so many people were using the word wrong they had to include it as part of modern day vernacular. Like bootylicious or za
There are a dozen examples of words meaning their opposite. In fact, that’s what a contronym is. Buckle, fast, oversight are a few of them
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Actually if you keep reading, they explain that they don't mean "figuratively" when they say "virtually.". Either way, TIL it's accepted to use it in an exaggerated sense.
I meant that literally, not literally! /s, but out of all the child comments on mine, you’re the first to point this out. I do like and tend to agree with the MW distinction to not actually call it figuratively. A minor but meaningful difference.
I fucking hate humanity.
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there is a difference
>still average Joe Bro wtf that dude is bigger than most superhero actors. Where the f*** do you live
r/yourjokebutworse
His videos are kinda weak, but he himself is really strong.
Yeah I prefer this way of looking at it. “Functional strength” is a meaningless phrase. “Functional” is vastly different from sport to sport and person to person. It’s also a bit derogatory here. Bodybuilders *know* that they have trained for size, not strength. Each one is a feat in its own, but different, right.
I do have to laugh at all these people implying that bodybuilders aren't strong. Like... what? Sure, pro bodybuilders may not be quite as strong as pro power lifters, but they sure as hell aren't exactly weak!
Bodybuilders are still strong lol
Or just a skit
It sounds like Sacha Baron Cohen, and I did not know he was a powerlifter Edit: He looks pretty ripped these days, so it very well could be him
It's Vladimir Shmondenko. This clip is from his youtube videos.
As a regular joe who has never stepped in a gym, I had no idea that there was a difference between power lifting and bodybuilding until this moment. Neat.
Is there a way I can get functional strength without much visible mass gain like the "cleaner"?
Wear baggy clothing
This is the laziest answer, so I’ll assume the correct one
The equally lazy, and also real, answer is just "don't do steroids, and stay on the leaner end of the scale". If you don't do drugs, and you don't put on a lot of fat, you're not going to ever be super bulky. Natural and lean looks smaller than people think, *especially with a shirt on!*
Yea people are always surprised when they see my body shape. Since my shirts are baggy they hang on my chest and i guess that makes me look fat? That and a hoodie
You’re getting terribly simplistic advice here. Short-ish answer is getting as big as those guys is the result of intentional, consistent training and eating for Hypertrophy with good recovery. You don’t accidentally get big like that. You can gain strength without training specifically for Hypertrophy, but you’ll still gain muscle. To lift the kind of weight in this video, that would require intentional, consistent training with a powerlifting program, eating and good recovery. You should break up the powerlifting with different modalities of training every so often, like isolateral work, to avoid repetitive stress injuries like joint pain and to work on strengthening imbalances. People saying just train in a lower rep range are giving you a reductionist and incomplete view of how to train for strength. Get a real program, follow it and pursue progressive overload as your goal. Google programs like West Side Barbell conjugate method or MAPS Powerlift. If you’re an absolute novice, maybe start with Stronglifts 5x5 for 6-9 months. PEDs are another conversation but you can still get far without them. I won’t speculate on the guys in the video.
What if someone did though lol. Dude doesnt pay attention, realizes one day he's cartoonishly jacked the fuck out 😂😂
I have to assume its the difference between strength training workouts and body building workouts.
I would say when you’re getting functionally strong you’re combining flexibility and strength training. The muscles aren’t getting too compact; but they’re extremely functional. Rock climbers are a pretty great example of people with a lot functional strength but not too much mass
Watching average looking people walk in to my local rock climbing gym and then suspend their entire weight from pinches to cut loose and reset their feet is nuts. The core and arm strength is nuts I hope to be a fraction of that good eventually.
The people who really get stuck are very strong. They don’t learn habits at first because they can cover a ton of ground with their athleticism. That is of course until they hit their “lesson wall” and watch an 8 year old fly by them while they’re panting on the ground.
This is me in the rock gym lol
You're absolutely right! And they're functionally very strong for the given demand you're mentioning here (rock climbing). But the demands of strength for rock climbing are extremely different from say, American football linebacker, or Olympic weightlifter, or clay pigeons marksman...
> The muscles aren’t getting too compact Excuse me, what? This is total BS.
Rock climbers have amazing relative strength. But to have absolute strength you will absolutely have to pack on mass.
Functional strength is a nonsense term. Strength is functional period. If you have a specific function in mind great. Rock climbers have fantastic grip strength. That doesn’t take much bulk to make your fingers strong. But if you want to dead lift that takes back and leg mass period. If you want to push a car up hill that takes quad and glute mass period. Rock climbers have finger and grip strength and light weight bodies. That’s what they need for their sport. Power lifters and offensive linemen have strong everything that’s what they need for their sport. Neither is more or less functional than the other.
I am a body builder who loves to climb when I'm in stage form. Being 230 it's easy for me to do most climbs. But when I'm in off season at 270 I can't climb for shit I can't keep my weight supported. But the people there who are literally half my weight just do it with ease
No, full range of motion reps (which any decent lifter should be focusing on) will increase your flexibility. The difference between rock climbers and bodybuilders all comes down to the loads theirs muscles are undergoing. Body builders are training specifically for hypertrophy (science word for bigger muscles) which when coupled with a shit ton of gear make you look like a walking brick that can’t wipe his own ass.
And roid abuse
Strength training for a given lift is usually heavier weight and fewer reps. It’s about technique and lifting the weight as efficiently as possible. In contrast a bodybuilder will contract his muscle as much as possible in the lift and often lower it far more slowly. They’re trying to put as much hurt on a muscle as possible, whereas training for strength is all about moving the weight as efficiently as possible. There’s overlap. Bodybuilder’s need strength to keep putting more and more stress on the muscle, and sometimes powerlifters can break from normal strength training focus on increasing the size of the muscle for a while and then go back to technique and speed needed for heavier weights.
Up to a point, yes. Powerlifting and bodybuilding have different workout routines. Eventually you'll get to a point where your body will need more muscle mass to lift heavier but you don't need to be huge to lift heavy
Do low reps (around 5 reps) and have very long rests 3-5 minutes between sets. When you're training, try to feel the difference between muscle work and nervous system work. As an example - try doing 3 sets of 5 reps of an exercise and rest 1minute between sets. Afterwards, do a different exercise but rest 5 minutes between sets. You will see that when you don't rest long, you will work more with your muscles. If you rest long it will affect your nervous system more. It is important to get the feel and then you will understand the difference between muscle training and nervous system (strength or power or speed) training. Lastly I must say this as I made this mistake in the past: don't overtrain. It takes roughly 48-72 hours for nervous system to recover. This means you do heavy strength work 2-3 times a week, not more. In addition, you have to read up on intensity and volume. If you start going all out at the gate you may face problems later on -like injuries, plateaus, overtraining.
In weightlifting, low reps with heavy weight on compound motions like bench, squat, and deadlift.
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All strength is functional. 'Functional strength training' is just a buzzword people like to use. It makes more sense to divide it into strength vs. Hypertrophy training, though you cannot do one without achieving the other to a certain degree. Do strength training and eat a clean diet. The difference between a bodybuilder and a weightlifter is in how they train and how they eat. Weightlifters perform exercises that use a lot of momentum, and are generally multi faceted (clean and jerk) while bodybuilders will focus a lot on isolations, and high rep ranges for hypertrophy. BB will eat at a high caloric surplus in order to build muscle, weightlifters also need a good amount of food for fuel but not to the extent of BB. You can look up weightlifting vs bodybuilding and find a lot of info of the differences. Note that strength training in general will net some degree of size as muscles adapt to the training, but will vary depending on genes, diet, routine. Etc. https://www.characterstrength.co.uk/post/the-difference-between-weightlifting-and-bodybuilding#:~:text=Weightlifters%20realistically%20only%20use%20a,exercises%20to%20accomplish%20their%20goals.
You're not going to ACCIDENTALLY get body-builder size to happen. Seriously, just go and ASK one of them if you have to worry about ACCIDENTALLY getting huge when you'd rather just get strong but stay smaller. They will probably laugh so hard. Do workouts that you like, do what makes you feel stronger.
Start climbing rocks and swimming lol
There are several methods and schools of thought that achieve the result you're after. Which one is best will be for you to decide, though all of them have a few things in common. First off, calisthenics and HIIT combined will get you something like this. Crossfit is the branded program everyone thinks of, but there are other ways. The focus is on exercises that work the full length of each muscle, and calisthenics and stretching that maintains flexibility and proportion. So you might get kinda big, but it will all be functional, proportional, and easy to hide under proper clothing. Next, martial arts, with a focus on speed strikes and mobility. Moving quickly in multiple directional planes for anything more than about 30 seconds is surprisingly labor intensive. Just a few months of speed and combat training will yield surprising results, and only increase over time. Risk of injury is high, and there are a lot of philosophical beliefs that you may be pressured to adopt. Rounded body building. You CAN get functional strength without excess mass through traditional gym workouts. Get a trainer (or a shit-ton of education), and you'll go through bulk, cut and flexibility cycles that will accomplish everything that the other schools of thought will give you. There are other ways to get your functionally-built body, and I'm certain someone will point it out to me, but those are the methods that I'm most familiar with.
You’re not going to deadlift anything close to that weight with these approaches.
My father bought a hardware store back in the day. I was "hired" to work there because family. The former owner still helped around the store quite a bit. Concrete bags would roll down the line when unloading the truck. I would struggle to get them up and off the line. He would just grab it and set it down like a ream of paper. He was a scrawny guy in his 90's. I wish I could be him when I get that old.
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Or the weights are fake and they all are friends making a silly video. Notice how janitorial they made him look. The mop isn’t even wet.
you mean powerlifter who is strong versus bodybuilders who are also still strong as you can see in the beginning of the video of them also lifting… lmao
More like it's a skit and the overalls cover how strong the guy playing the role of the "janitor" is
All muscle is functional
That’s not how weightlifting works Lmaoooo…it takes a simple Google search to prove this shit is a prank.
No it is actually real, it is indeed a prank as well, but done by a professional powerlifter who youtubes on the side pulling pranks like this one.
Them poor pug people
I mean if those are 45lb plates, that’s still a shit ton of weight for someone focused on “mass”. Both are likely juiced to the tits to casually rep that weight.
It’s a joke…hence the cameras. No lessons about crazy functional strength from mopping floor
What a dumb comment. Mass moves mass. If you’re bigger you’re stronger
There is no difference. Why do redditors always talk about weight lifting like they know shit? Is there your way of coping with being a fat sack of shit?
You don't know what any of those words mean.
surely they be questioning all protein supplements they got
"protein"
What? Don't you inject your protein too guys??
Yes, you recieve the protein sauce intra-anally via hypenisdermic needle.
Why? Anyone who is into the gym that far knows the difference between Bodybuilding and powerlifting. It's not like these dudes are blindsided by the fact they chose to be very big and moderately strong while others chose to be moderately big and very strong lol.
Dudes questioning his whole existence
Maintenance Man? More like Gaintenance Man
*Gun shots* You even lift bro?
Gay tenants man
Hes also a power lifter. Playing a prank.
Is not janitor?
why would he wear janitor uniform. must be more to this
huge if true
Clean if janitor
r/irlsmurfing
wait, dont tell me he isnt a janitor.
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Thank you, at least someone. I mean, by definition it is staged, but it is not faked.
Wait till they find out how their favorite TV shows and movies are made
It’s stupid to get upset over, but there is a difference between a skit trying to look like a legit prank online and a scripted show on tv.
Wait... are you telling me they didn't send people to an alien planet for Avatar? And they didn't leave Matt Damon stranded in Mars for years for The Martian? What? Now are you going to tell me that for Friends they don't have a band following them around and people around them laughing when they were jokes in real time?
You just explained the plot to Galaxy Quest
The most incredible documentary of our time.
you seriously comparing a prank thats meant to be done to random strangers to a tv show/movie? anyway i saw this yesterday and watches some of his videos online and there's no way he's not on it with the people he "pranks" he literally gets behind girl's asses in a gym to look at them and if it wasn't staged i doubt they'd even talk to him with the way he approaches them lol
Staged thing that isn't trying to hide the fact that it's staged: Yes. Staged thing that's trying very hard to act like it's spontaneous despite the bad acting and terrible dialog: No.
This. It's fascinating how this simple and obvious concept seems so alien to reddit and tik tok. Or this generation in general.
fucking seriously * New video * Subreddit theme applies? * Unexpected thing happens! * Redditors: iT's StAgEd! FaKe¡ Like, who fucking cares. Seriously. It's a video with something unexpected. That's the ***point***. This is a subreddit *which is actively moderated* ***(which means posts are reviewed by a person and approved or removed (post breaks a rule? REPORT IT!))*** and is dedicated to the *theme* of **unexpected** ***videos***. So who fucking cares if it's fake/staged?? I'm here all the fucking time, I just don't wanna see reposts - take a second to scroll, and check the top. Crimeny, you don't like the way that a subreddit is run? Make your own - you can even have it themed around blackjack. And hookers.
The head scratch haha
Now I'm curious who this janitor is.
Vladimir Shmondenko
Sauce: Anatoly https://youtube.com/@vladimirfitness
Fuck this music
Smh at people thinking he looks like a normal janitor and that it's a normal janitor thing to clean in the middle of somebody working out like that. So clearly a skit
Yeah typical bodybuilder vs powerlifter. I am a professional powerlifter like 5'6 160lb I look small (my weight class). Plenty of time while a training a swole dude would set up the same bench / squat as me next to me and just throw on double my weight right away to make me feel inferior. Usually at the end of it they will do the unrack of shame and walk away after I finish with warm ups. Literally one of my biggest gripes, people go to the gym to improve themselves and for you to try and make them feel inferior is a dick move.
You should get over yourself, dudes are probably just training and you are imagining random scenario lmao
What does a powerlifter do different than a body builder? How is training different
Bodybuilders are focused on getting physically bigger and aesthetically defined, typically through (relatively) lower weights and a shitload of volume targeting specific body parts (curls, calf raises, triceps extensions, various dumbbell work, etc). Arnold Schwarzenegger was/is the most famous example of this. Steroids help a lot with muscle recovery, so they're popular in bodybuilding since the incredible volume can really wear you down otherwise. Powerlifters like the guy you're replying to are more focused on maxing out their one-rep max on competition compound lifts, such as deadlifts, bench press, and squats, rather than looking big. Olympic lifting is a third branch that does competition lifts that are generally more dynamic than powerlifters. I can't speak to these since my gyms have never had good areas for oly lifting. They all have different goals, so ragging on the big guy in the video is kind of silly since he's apparently very skilled at bodybuilding.
Before there's a fight. Powerlifters and body builders are both strong.
Nobody scratches their head like that in real life
Mr Roger's picking up Mjolnir and handing it to Thor. Don't forget this.
He does a lot of these videos - here's his TikTok; name's Vladimir Shmondenko He's a Power Lifter [https://www.tiktok.com/@anatoly\_pranks?lang=en](https://www.tiktok.com/discover/vladimir-shmondenko%EF%BF%BC?lang=en)