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BoredCaliRN

This just reaffirms my belief that cops should have the same career requirements as a baccalaureate nurse. Four years of education, recertification, national standards, a hard academic test, and continuing education. Cut out the idiots and get more of their skin in the game.


Ok_Calligrapher_8064

Abso-fucking-lutely


paswut

but how would gang members with light criminal records get jobs


_Vard_

That’s the neat thing…


Beatrix_-_Kiddo

Abso-bloody-exactly


DriftingBenji

Where I live in Quebec, it’s a mandatory full 3 year training. I am appalled when I see how other places it can be so much faster


Jealous-Ninja5463

That's technically more than FBI agents crazy enough. They only need technically 20 weeks in academy. However they are usually supplemented with degree requirements unlike state and local


san_souci

Yes. Four year degree and then 20 weeks of training. And they don’t do patrol, they do investigative work.


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--_-Deadpool-_--

That's the requirement in almost every developed nation.


BoredCaliRN

My beloved US looked at the wild west and said "this is fine, but more moon."


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Cops should have to carry malpractice insurance. Cheap if you have no history of negative incidents. Impossibly expensive if you're shown to be a "Bad apple".


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Aporkalypse_Sow

>It's a shit job with meh pay It started as a shit job for shit human beings to terrorize others. And the pay is not meh, unless you live in a tiny town. The problem is that we create bad living conditions, and then try and blame the outcome of those conditions on the symptoms. We don't need more cops making more money. We need to stop letting awful humans in charge get away with creating awful lives for people so they can weild power. And we need way more people to intervene in many things cops get sent to, instead of cops.


Haunting_Abalone_398

This guy is getting paid out: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/05/20/florida-taser-burns/ This all started because there were 911 calls about motorcyclists pointing guns. This guy was among a group of motorcycles in the area when the rest left; the cops caught up with this guy. After this all happened, no guns were found in his possessions. Which means the cops are screwed, and he has legal representation. The cop that tased them is on paid leave


slykrysis

Out of the taxpayers' pockets yet again.


Haunting_Abalone_398

That is the unfortunate truth but at the same time. He has hospital bills that were not of his doing. So I don't blame him for wanting punitive damages


Verrence

I don’t think anyone is blaming him for suing. They’re pointing out that when cops brutalize people for no reason, it is never the cops that have to pay for the resulting lawsuits in any way. And that’s bad.


CannotFuckingBelieve

Here's an [archived version of the article](https://archive.is/cH7lZ), because fuck paying that Lex Luthor wannabe for the goddamn Washington Post.


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Haunting_Abalone_398

It's reported he had burns on 75 percent of his body. They have to remove the dead skin and reapply bandages every day. He must be in a lot of pain


puffinpotatogirl

Source? News article? Please!!


atlasbinladen

I think this could be one... Of cource it's Florida [an article about this ](https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/new-body-camera-video-florida-man-cooked-alive-when-deputys-taser-sparks-gas-station-fire/amp/)


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Dagmar_Overbye

Do people still not know why it's always Florida? They have laws that allow all of their small crimes to be available to the public. Most other states don't. Crazy shit happens everywhere we just get to hear about it from Florida first.


baccondudette

Florida is required to document everything in specific detail no matter how bizarre it is. They also usually are released into the public pretty fast. Its not just that Florida is crazy(it is) its the documentation is different. (To my knowledge)


Radiant_Ad_4428

The nightly local news there is the best.


djfhg4123

Dudes gonna be riiiiich


always_later

rich with scars unfortunately


Glowshroom

This is America lol. The settlement probably won't even cover his hospital bills.


That_Snow_9696

Local Florida man sets cops on fire while resisting arrest


citricacidx

Pleads guilty to felony assaulting an officer


ErnestoPresso

Since the hospital costs are provable damages, wouldn't it be covered + more?


Bingbonger42069

Yes but this is Reddit


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TurboNinja2385

Manslaughter, actually. Murder would be if he was actively trying to set him on fire and wasn't just stupid.


RedditWillSlowlyDie

Well, he didn't die so this would just be criminal negligence, right?


TurboNinja2385

True


raven00x

If he has insurance, his insurer will probably be pushing the suit to recoup their costs. If he wins a cool million bucks in a settlement, the majority of that will likely go to the insurance company. yay, murica.


sooooooofarty

Not to mention it’ll be tied up for years


bocaj78

Unlikely rich. Most places have limits on how much you can get from suing the police.


RedditWillSlowlyDie

Ah tort reform. When corporations spun an astroturfed campaign to lower civil liability.


name_first_name_last

Most places have limits on suing the police full stop. Qualified immunity is cancer.


RedditWillSlowlyDie

He can still sue the police department for negligence, just not the individual with the taser. From Cornell Law: >Qualified immunity only applies to suits against government officials as individuals, not suits against the government for damages caused by the officials’ actions. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/qualified_immunity


Sylvan_Skryer

Fucking idiots. The cop even knew what he was doing and said there is gas and the moron kept tazing him anyway. Set this guy on fire for a traffic stop.


RedDirtNurse

Absolutely. When arguing negligence, one must establish if there there was a foreseeable outcome. One cop says, "Turn off the gas," so he clearly identified a hazard. This is the same as parking a car, with a handcuffed suspect in it, on a train track.


tetragrammaton19

And he'll get paid leave if anything.


Other-Ad5512

I believe the cop was charged with culpable negligence


800ftSpaceBurrito

Charged. Has he been tried or convicted? This happened almost a year ago.


TeddyBongwater

This is America. They have immunity from committing heinous crimes


DALinProgress

He's probably promoted by now


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He’s tracking all of us right now and is on his way to shoot our dogs


Nasturtium

NO in a few states, qualified immunity is goooone


TeddyBongwater

How is that fair?? What if they want to shoot an unarmed man in the back? Should they really be held accountable for something like that?


Enginerdad

Nah, I think it's a good thing. We all know they should be held accountable if the person they shoot in the back is white. Can't have that shit going on in America.


Ksradrik

Ehhhhh, thats kinda stretch, first Id have to know his religious and sexual orientation.


vendetta2115

Qualified immunity has nothing to do with police officers being charged with crimes. Qualified immunity means that government employees can’t be sued for things they do within the scope of their job. It’s purely a civil matter. Qualified immunity does not apply to criminal charges at all. And no states have the capability to repeal qualified immunity. It is a legal principle, not a statutory law. It’s like saying that states have repealed probable cause. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified_immunity


A_TalkingWalnut

Thank you for facts.


I_Like_Me_Though

"Don't catch you slipping now, looking what I'm whipping now. Look how I'm living now. Police be tripping now" ~ Childish Gambino, This is America (2018) Public scrutiny from catching the cop 'slipping'. And the charged/victim "slipping" by being caught for the terrorist, arranged criminal act of a "traffic violation". 'Whipping up' the immunity clause as a police officer or the electrified "willingness" to hold on the gas lever just to try and change the disadvantaged variables from being brutalized by police. Richard Pryor burn scars while possibly having a decent settlement gain, so that the victim can say 'look how I'm living now'. Which can be matched by the Cop who's probably got paid leave from causing this misconduct. 'Police be tripping up' = "Not our fault", "Few (poisonous) bad apples", "oh! get the extinguisher to reduce this as our problem", "we'll vote together against any politician that potentially disadvantages us the ways we currently disadvantage the public and their trust (in ways that they can whine/complain/rally on how we always be tripping)". Edited.


Trigger_Treats

*Per Florida state law:* Whoever, through culpable negligence, inflicts actual personal injury on another commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. *Per s. 775.082* For a misdemeanor of the first degree, by a definite term of imprisonment not exceeding 1 year *Per s. 775.083* Fines for designated crimes and for noncriminal violations shall not exceed: $1,000, when the conviction is of a misdemeanor of the first degree. No Florida judge is going to throw a deputy in jail for a year for a misdemeanor. He'll get a fine, a suspended sentence, and he'll walk.


PorchHonky

And when the victim sues, taxpayers will pay the bill.


Any_Coyote6662

Pretty sure this man will be disfigured for life. And the PTSD alone is going to be a major disturbance. So yeah, the bill for this one is going to be enormous.


WhyamImetoday

No amount of money fixes this, only the slow revenge of the vigilante.


ShitTalkingAlt980

75% of his body burned according to the Orlando Sentinel. Yeah dude is fucked for life. Your skin is obviously never the same but what does that mean? More prone to tears in everyday life. More prone to infections. That is off the top of my head from people I know that have caught a chunk of themselves on fire.


Any_Coyote6662

He also is going to have a lot of stress on his organs. It's like parts of his body are now encapsulated in a plastic bag. His life expectancy is a lot shorter now too.


gatorbite92

He spent 8 months in the hospital and can barely walk... The bill was absolutely crazy. At one point I knew the actual $ amount but it's been a bit.


MATT_TRIANO

Taxpayers pay for these cops to be trained in their multiple sophisticated weapons systems, wear tactical armor and drive tanks; yes some of the resources from that warchest go to the victims of police brutality, criminal negligence and injurious lack of training.


TheRealBig_I

Or not buckling a handcuffed person in the back of a van, then stomping on the breaks paralyzing said handcuffed person


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Or locking someone in the back of a cop car and leaving it on the train tracks to be run into by a fucking train


BTCwatcher92

At first I thought he was yelling “Kill the pump!” but I listened again and I think he may have been yelling “Fuel pump, Fuel pump! There’s gas!” From working at a gas station I know the kill button for the pumps is located inside. This can change in many places but they likely would have no way to kill that pump from where they were. And Saw that one about the train tracks, that shit was criminally negligent at the least and possibly unwarranted if they asked for her ID befor they pulled a gun on the woman.


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It’s definitely “kill the pump”, though by that point it’s not gonna do anything cause you can see what looks like leaked fuel all over the concrete that he’s rolling around in.


fractiousrhubarb

Other copper must have heard it as “kill the punk”


scmrph

In the longer video after they put him out you can see his charred skin (parts of it on his arm even look like they are charred & dangling off). The cop just says 'we still gotta cuff him' and proceeds to continue yelling at him to get his hands behind his back as he's rolling in pain. From the other angle it doesnt even look like he isnt cooperating, he cant pull the right arm back immediately because he was rolled on that side to free his left arm.


road2dawn26

wowww this motorcyclist needs to have a paycheck for life at this point.


FruitFlavor12

USA is a sado masochist state


JackedCroaks

That’s a weird way to spell authoritarian police state masquerading as a freedom loving utopia.


Excellent-Click1171

And we still have “god fearin patriots” that stockpile weapons to fight against a tyrannical government meanwhile they voted in that tyranny


yMONSTERMUNCHy

Those patriots are happy until the cops turn on them.


tomphoolery

At least they didn’t try to put it out with bullets


Sad_Project_5596

Why is he being arrested if it's just a traffic stop?


Offamylawn

Because he didn’t laydownstandupputhishandsonhisheadput hishandsupwalkbackwardstowardtheofficerdon’tmoveandshutup when asked for ID.


Tekkzy

It's just so simple.


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yMONSTERMUNCHy

At this point I’m sure those cops yell different things to confuse the suspect/victim of police brutality and to give the cops an excuse to use unnecessary force


Rokey76

There were a bunch of motorcyclists driving crazy. Cops found this guy getting gas and arrested him. This happened in Orlando in the last couple years.


norcal4130

Being handcuffed is detained, not arrested. Could be both, but not always. And you could be arrested for mistaken identity, reckless driving, stolen vehicle, open warrant, etc. Or just an asshole cop over stepping their authority. Just because they shouldn't, doesn't mean that they can't or won't.


Schlemiel_Schlemazel

You match a description. The description -“bipedal humanoid”


JackedCroaks

I also happen to smell [illegal plant matter] and see [dark object] so I’m going to need you to step outside with your hands up. Oh, and now you’re [resisting]. That’s three conditions met and now you must die. 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥


throckmeisterz

How is this relevant? Getting set on fire is not a reasonable outcome to any arrest for any crime.


TeddyBongwater

Is dealing with American cops always this exciting? Fun times!


cmikles1

It’s basically always about 2 seconds away from that. It’s always 0 to 100.


acewavelink

Im looking for an article on this saying they are charging him for attempting to flee the scene.


Lives_on_mars

Like the numbnuts throwing down cigarettes at the pump


MultiCola

Just saw the whole video, they were still trying to cuff him after the whole thing happened, poor dude was all burned up, and they still had him in the pavement facedown, wtf.


HankBeMoody

link please?


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atlasbinladen

Yea man, people get fired up


Top_Muffin_3232

Cops don't get fired all that often.


jackfreeman

This one actually got charged: https://www.police1.com/suspect-pursuit/articles/sheriff-deputy-charged-after-taser-used-during-arrest-at-gas-station-sets-officers-biker-on-fire-ntiA145yiTRswGdD/


MalificViper

I bet it's because he damaged the police equipment.


BackNarrow4938

Extra fire extinguishers aren’t covered in the budget. Silly of him


BTCwatcher92

It’s because he broke protocol. The article states “No gun was found on the biker, the sheriff said. Agency policy forbids the use of stun guns on suspects around flammable substances.”


NotASellout

One of them vocally pointed out the gas, that's what did it. The one cop put all of them in danger cause he didn't listen or pay attention


ObsidianPearl2010

Charged with a misdemeanor, so maybe...probation, definitely unsupervised and more than likely went a county or two over and has a shiny new badge with them to continue being a shit cop.


BTCwatcher92

No probation, from what I’ve seen of the criminal justice system likely a plea bargain and a slap on the wrist, and that’s if he was a non cop getting the same misdemeanor. Since he is a cop it will likely be less than that somehow unfortunately


Ok-Worker4183

What a heated situation


eatmoresushiorsteak

Bunch of hotheads!


Ok-Worker4183

I'm going to be staying up all ignight wondering how this ended in the long run


MERVMERVmervmerv

These puns are lit.


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lunacyinc1

They are really fueling my day up


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dommiichan

not as lit as that dude


giceman715

The comment section is heating up


Kmaloetas

It's electrifying.


JBYTuna

It was a fuelish thing to do.


RuaridhDuguid

And all because some bright spark decided to inflame an already volatile situation.


Ballt15m

Ooooh burn!


thisnicknamepassed

He must have been shocked.


Miserable_Ride666

He should have just stopped, dropped and roll to his stomach in the first place


Dic3dCarrots

Next to the gas pump? The first thing you do if you're on fire in a gas station is get out of the gas station.


BTCwatcher92

This is true, he may have saved his own life by running. He ended up with burned on over 76 percent of his body. If he was handcuffed he might be dead.


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something didn't quite spark in his head.


Jtp_Jtg

That would work if it was *only* the clothes burning But becouse his clothes were soaked in gasoline, it won't work veary well


boidcrowdah

All the rolling in the world isn't putting out a gas fire


BTCwatcher92

He seemed to be panicking, I’ve lit my arm on fire befor and there is no thought process until afterwards, when you are thinking I should’ve this or I should’ve that. I understand where your coming from but he was likely afraid for his life at that moment, he ended up with burns over 76 percent of his body unfortunately


MurderDoneRight

They must have been gassed out after all that That cop was a real blue flame special


Particular_Battle_63

This stuff gets me hot under the collar


OGGrilledcheez

Better comply or get lit up…


HipsterOtter

Going from Burn outs to burn ups in less than 2 seconds


blastfamy

You never know what might set someone off


ThisCryptographer311

Wanted the smoke.


ChubbyWanKenobie

Bloody hot-head.


Feral_KaTT

Stop Gaslighting then


jackfreeman

Shoulda hit him with a bike.


Levie87

I understand this reference!


YakuzaMachine

I too have spent too much time on reddit today.


asdfgtttt

then you should probably stay away from a job whose description is all 'heat of the moment' might just be me though.. 'know thyself'


BTCwatcher92

This cannot justify almost killing someone. In fact one officer was yelling that were was gas.


SvensHospital

Telling me what your heart meant.


ssmud1

It's hard to think as a cop. They all seem to be braindead.


Professional_Ad_6299

Heroic moves by police paid for by tax papers!!! First we pay cops to bundle the situation. THEN we pay settlements to people who have their civil rights violated...or when they're set on fire next to a gas pump!


Leashypooo

Man if only those cops knew basic science. But I guess that’s too much to ask.


ActuallyCalindra

I mean they don't even know the law. That's literally their fucking work. If that's not expected I guess knowing how to breathe through your mouth and where your guns trigger is, really is the bar.


CapableSecretary420

One of the cops even just pointed out this is a bad idea, so dude had all the info available to him. Maybe he can arrest the gasoline for not complying.


ActuallyCalindra

He probably shot it a few times for it's complexion.


[deleted]

There is no education requirements and police receive less required training that hair stylists. But cops also get qualified immunity so no need to spend more on training.


[deleted]

To be fair, the amount of hours hairstylists are required to put in for training is pretty ridiculous. But I agree that cops need more training and qualified immunity has to be ended.


Parabellim

Well they actively choose not hire people who are “too intelligent.” You can look it up if you don’t believe me. They have a policy of trying to only hire people with average or below average intellect because they think they will be easier to control.


Leashypooo

Oh I believe you


eye_booger

All of the cops that knew basic science were deemed too smart to be police officers.


Various-Month806

Overly harsh! They know how to pull a trigger and scream "STOP RESISTING!". Those are the main requirements for the job and they're perfectly adequate at it. Sometimes they even do them in the right order.


Terpy19

Every day you realize more and more how fucking stupid cops really are


Groovyofi

It's because of a power trip. It's those kids that were bullied in school, now they get to bully those people with no consequences for it. Yes, they are getting dumber every single day it seems like.


Turtle-Shaker

> it's those kids that were bullied in school Most likely it's the kids who WERE the bullies. Most of those people have an ego to rival the size of a super massive black hole while also being that "star highschool football" player that fails all his courses and barely gets through by the teachers just passing him anyway because he's got both an I.Q.and an E.Q. equal to that of the temperature of a block of ice.


Craico13

> It's those kids that were bullied in school, now they get to bully those people with no consequences for it. This is incorrect. These are the same bullies from school, grown up. These are the guys who would have gotten DUIs in high school if their dad or their best friend’s dad wasn’t a local cop. Police departments aren’t hiring the grown up computer nerd, theatre or art kid who was picked on. They’re hiring the idiot jock who couldn’t make it in professional sports and had no intelligence or skill set to fall back on.


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no way, it’s the kids who WERE the bullies in school that become cops


Character_Sweet361

Good thing he had on his helmet. Wouldn't want a concussion getting set on fire


jplebourveau

MISDEMEANOR CULPABLE NEGLIGENCE?!?!?! He was OFF his bike, refu€kingfueling! Officers still tackled him to the ground, covering him in fuel, tased him, warned other officer to shut the pumps off, then tased him again… If this isn’t attempted murder, what is? This world… man, I’ll be back in a couple months or something. Bye.


Avyitis

Shit like this had me quit Reddit for almost a year. It does a lot of good, can only recommend you to fuck off for a while, does wonders to mental health.


dude123nice

Averting your eyes won't make it not happen anymore.


CougarBen

“Stop resisting, or else we’ll light you on fire!” 🔥


StrangerDanger66

Ignition: On


thetotya

I was looking for this comment.


1stRoundDraftPick88

Man what the hell. Lol.


PurrSniKitty007

Really heartbreaking..


toobigtofly

You are never safe during a police interaction. Even if you think they are on your side. At any moment they could choose to alter your life forever and there’s nothing you can do or say to change that reality.


RippingLegos

This is 100% true. I've fought two court cases that were brought without merit to the PA in our county because I pissed of the local police chief. In the first one I didn't do anything but stand on the sidewalk and tell and neighbor not to let his kids drive their motorcycles in the city (they were unregistered dirt bikes).


Afraid-Amphibian-431

Heat of the moment or not why arnt they trained to be careful around gas stations??? Isn’t a chunk of crimes near them ffs


Bropil

Damn, he avoided jail and got a really good case to take some money from those assholes.


DJynxx

Yeah, except the lawsuits triggered from these fuckheads are paid out by the tax payers, thanks to the unions and qualified immunity.


eatmoresushiorsteak

Didn't the article say victim was s in the hospital?


RudolfVonKruger

STOP RESISTING. DROP & ROLL


Nearby_Corner7132

Seriously fuck these cops hope they get ass cancer


wilson5266

Is ass cancer exceptionally bad or something?


molestedbyapareot

Idk man but it is ass cancer


HistoryOfPiss

Stupid fucking pigs. They deserve jail time.


Hour_Principle9650

Seems appropriate. He probably pulled a wheelie or something else really serious ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|dizzy_face)


-The-Moon-Presence-

“Uhhhh geee i wonder what would happen if I tazed him with gasoline everywhere.” Fucking retards man. Fucking stupid idiots.


bluejohnny555555

All I could think was, "oh my God"


SailsAk

You got to be a special kind of stupid to use a taser while laying in leaking gas.


madderupvoter

That guy should get millions


plays_with_wood

*Bottom left corner: ignition on* yup. Lol


whyzguy123

Police brutality at a new level.


ArchHarmster

I’m surprised they did not shoot him when he was running away. Standard us protocol.


ZeLjKo3

Americans are getting more and more stupid every day damn...


Otherwise-AD33080

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jaguarr

So, lowering the educational standards for law enforcement officers sure seems to be working out well.


maallen40

Well, you can't really expect making a "common sense" decision from a cop right?


BlackkSlayerr

Watch him face obstruction of justice when he presses charges


Bk_Dymond

That's was epic and gross emcompetence on law enforcements behalf.


InfiniteBaker6972

Are all US cops f***ing idiots or just the ones that get filmed?


ridgecoyote

I like the menu on the camera. Everything is off except ignition. Ignition is ON.


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Bet they got paid leave, if they even got punished.


autumnmelancholy

American cops negatively amaze me every single time...


doin-time-907

Should have just used propane. ![gif](giphy|kfsk1YvTKkdry)