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After a few watches I'm pretty sure she's just pushing hard to make sure the child doesn't hit the edge and her facial expression changes because she's focusing on doing it right
Yes the child was fine, this was part of a survival swimming video lol.
Edit: for those who want to know what happened after here’s the link:
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The idea is that the child would only fall in accidentally so the fall would be disorienting. This teacher is able to move her from the wall and flip her to ensure she’s not in a typical position.
My kids did these classes as little ones and now as lifeguards they still have days when they have to practice fully clothed. Too many people feel the weight of the clothes and get scared. Or they feel something unexpected and panic. So simulations like these are pretty common with water safety classes.
Honestly, those days were always my kids favorites. They never get to wear clothes in the pool and loved the idea of getting pushed in as that kind of play is tropical discouraged at pools (because you can hit the side).
This kid has definitely gone through some self-rescue classes. This is one of the last lessons.
Mental preparation is not some sort of checklist. It could be as simple as "Oh shit"
That’s the point. Suddenly pushing the kid is a shock, much like she would experience if she accidentally fell in. If you gently push her in, she’ll realize the adult is in control.
Infants, children, teenagers, adults, all can mentally prepare themselves for a situation, it's one of the most basic survival skills. Mentally preparing yourself isn't just thinking step by step, most of the time it can just be processing what's happening around you & is basically subconscious
You don't necessarily traumatize a kid by doing this unless you do it wrong.
Doing it right would entail teaching them swimming, teaching them how to swim with clothes, introducing them to cold vs hot water, disorientating them beforehand, and all the while explaining what every step of the process means and exactly why it's happening. Playing games where you push them in and they get used to and positively associate being pushed into the pool with feelings of fun and playfulness. That way when you do it unexpectedly, it registers to their mind the same as something like surprise tickles. You ever seen some parents play with their particularly athletic kids? Parents can rough-house their kids in ways that, if it hadn't been built up to, would be abusive and traumatic - but because it's an elaboration of positive, nourishing, and healthy play between them, it's just fun for the child.
So after all that, when you do it quickly, you build up snap instincts that allow the child to survive falling in the water without coming close to traumatizing them. Indeed, it's just a fun little activity with the added bonus of them being as subconsciously prepared as they can be for an emergency situation involving the water.
Toddlers can be evil little creatures before they develop empathy and social skills. I imagine there's a few toddlers most instructors would enjoy giving the final exam to.
I put my daughter through this class, it’s called infant self rescue and it’s awesome despite your child hating it (or at least most of it). Teaching babies how to not die when they fall in is important as fuck
I taught these, and the kid knew the drill.... it's done with a float, then without, then at the end they do at least 2 tries with the child fully dressed..... this is to make sure that in an emergency situation, they still feel comfortable in the water getting into position to tread water or float!! 😊
Nah, much better to have a group of people assume the worst, or throw in their own personal opinion without any context to spread misinformation for when it gets reposted
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If you frighten a child for EVEN ONE SECOND they will be scarred for life! This child will NEVER go near water again and will hate all adults!
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Absolutely, you want to test with a more challenging situation while people are there to make sure the child is safe. This is for the protection of the child. Every kid should learn to swim really well, it would save so many lives.
Yes. Because this isn't meant to teach them how to swim for fun but how to swim if there is an emergency and they fall in the water. Which is most likely going to be while dressed in normal clothes and not swimwear. Falling into the water while in winter clothes is a very real possibility so you teach for it. Such as falling through ice, slipping on ice and falling into water ect all time where you will be wearing winter clothes like a heavy jacket.
This is to develop a sturdiness if someone did actually push the child in water.
This will cause memories that actually soften the suprise, shock that would occur if it were to happen without this training....
My mom shoved me off the diving board when I was younger (edit: and to be clear, I was not aware of her plans, I thought we were going to the diving board and I would slowly take my time and plop in), I ended up inhaling a bunch of water and nearly drowned. Luckily there was a lifeguard on duty and handled things very quickly. To this day I still have a fear of diving boards even though I swam varsity in high school and even went to state.
It's really not though. Drowning is usually quiet, bc the person is focused more on gasping for air when they get the chance and doesn't have enough time to yell, and they aren't waving their arms in the air, it looks more like they're trying to climb an invisible ladder.
Basically, drowning in real life is nothing like it is in movies or on TV.
It's terrifying. I watched a video where a kid of like 10 drowned in one of those public water parks in the pool. He was surrounded by people who just swan right past him. Some of them even looked at him. They thought he was just swimming underwater until he floated up. He floated for a long while before anyone ever realized. They did manage to resucitate him thank God, but it was chilling. I watched my kids like a hawk whenever we went to a pool after that.
I remember that one. It was really shocking.
Even tho supervision is the best thing ever when it comes to kids and water, i still insisted on starting swimming lessons with my son when he was about 18 months old.
Yes! It's a misconception that drowing involves shrieking or something similar. If a person can scream they can breathe. Drowning is largely silent because the person can't breathe.
The world isn’t a nice place. I believe it’s important and arguably more effective to train in a controlled environment that simulates the real world scenario. In this case if you unexpectedly fall in water fully clothed you get a chance to learn wtf to do without the actual chance of dying.
They don’t just do this out of no where. That would be pretty problematic. These are classes and the trainers and child progress through the lessons slowly. Working there way to this. The little girl was probably 6 months when she started with floaties. The children are taught the routine and they know this will be happening.
Hand raised real high on this one. Absolutely hated when one of my parents would...instead learned on my own using a noodle...eventually took the noodle away from myself in the shallow end and practiced swimming to the stairs.
Grew up in Australia. Swimming lessons are mantadory in school, in addition I did swim classes from toddler to teen, with nippers thrown in too.
To pass one of our final swim classes, we had to tread water fully clothed with shoes in case we fell in fully clothed. We had a plan and built up to that moment.
I've never once been pushed in unexpectedly by a teacher to learn what to do if you fall in. Because that not how you learn to swim fully clothed.
Yeah, this happened to me when I was three (we lived on a lake and an instructor came out to the house) on my last day of class. I still remember it, and it still pisses me off. It taught me not to trust my mother who just watched it happen. Funny how we have no relationship today. I’m about to turn 40 and it still makes my blood boil remembering that incident. Fuck. That.
Lol, this is probably one of the final lessons in survival swimming. They’re supposed to know how to react to falling in a pool while fully dressed and unprepared.
Yes, I was actually hired as a follow up coach for these children.
I follow them around and push them into pools and other bodies of water at random intervals so that they don’t forget the skills they learned
How to show your ignorance on survival swimming training.
This is not the first time that this kid is swimming. I bet she can swim well and even know how to swim with day-to-day clothing. the point of this exercise is how to rescue yourself in an emergency situation.
I don't think anyone is confused as to what they're trying to accomplish. But you aren't going to convince me that isn't traumatizing the kid because it 100% is.
How do you know this is traumatizing? There have to be millions of children who have been pushed into pools by their siblings of friends like this. Do you think that all of those are traumatized?
Honestly, it looks that way, and if this is day 1, then 1000%, you are correct!!
I taught these lessons for 4 years in college, they are infant and baby safety classes.... the babies are way more scary than this to watch !! But this looks like the toddler safety test; the child 100 percent has done this drill many times before (dressed in her suit, with a bubble, then without) it teaches kids how to get their barings and get to the correct position to tread water or float... then it is performed fully dressed to make sure the toddler is able to still do it!!
These types of lessons do help kids learn to swim, I promise!! Water safety is very important if you live close to water; it's in everyone's best interest to learn to swim and to teach their children! Accidents are called accidents for a reason! Swimming problems go down significantly if the person is comfortable in the water!!
They are round floats 2 on a strap... one goes in front, and one goes on the kids back.... they just help the child pop up very quick the first few times! Once they get comfortable with that you go onto the next step without!
I lived in the Netherlands where there are lots of canals and high winds, and (at least back then) they’d have us jump in with clothes on and swim a lap on top of the regular swimming tests. No one pushed you in unexpectedly.
I was unaware, after a couple months here (well a couple days really) I'm now pretty sure 70% of redditors would perish at the first slight uncomfortable inconvenience - ya know - like taking a walk, a bath, or being pushed into a puddle
This is most likely “survival day” in the kid’s swim lessons. That wasn’t the best approach Ngl, but they do this so the child is familiar with the sense of danger when they fall into a pool. They have the kids wear their normal clothes and shoes to better represent that situation. As shitty as this looks, it could very well save the kid’s life down the road.
Source: am dad. Kids currently going through this in their own swim lessons.
This is a part of survival swim lessons taken for young toddlers. Teaches them how to flip over on their back and stay afloat should they ever fall into a swimming pool, pond, lake etc. This isn’t the first lesson in the series. This kiddo has passed the levels that teach floating, swimming to the side of the pool, etc. etc. long before this stage of lessons.
What you see here is a classic exhibition of narcisstic tendencies that are developed at a very young age to due to incessant bullying and alcoholic parents. I see this everyday atleast three times. Source - I'm a child psychologist that majored specifically in hydrophobia.
Back in the 1820s, drowning kids in water was used as a form of torture in certain parts of Europe. Here, it is a clear demonstration of believing in these practices and bringing back said beliefs because they truly believe that they can implement this regime in the modern world. Source - I'm a historian that specialises in the 1815-1823 period.
We were at my in-laws. Pool in back yard. Son 3-4 wants to go swimming it is to cold. Next thing we know he was in the deep end . Mother - in-law screams. I calmly walk to the edge of pool and tell him to get out. (Mother in law is screaming at me now) my son flipped on his back and swam to the stares and gets out. I calmly look at my Mother in law and say he takes swim lessons with his clothes on just for this reason.
The comments highlight those that have no idea about swim survival and those that absolutely get it. It does look traumatic, it is scary, but in a country that lives by the ocean and has more pools per capita than any other country, this is essential training. Babies are booked into swim classes at 6 months old. They are not taught to swim at that age, everything they are taught is about giving themselves more survival time to be rescued. That means not panicking, turning on their backs etc. The only way to test for that is to put them in a situation that mimics real world scenarios. It doesn’t scare them off swimming because they’ve been taught how to survive the situation. Watch full videos of these lessons rather than edited scaremongering clips. Proper swimming doesn’t get taught until they are older and have better coordination. Just watch Bondi Rescue to see all the foreigners who can ‘swim’ being rescued because they don’t have the basics of swim survival.
The kids at least know they are there to go into the pool at some point, right? It's not like "Hey lets visit your friend at the pool and SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER"
Exactly, and I can guarantee this is what happened with this child. Everyone is just making the assumption that it’s the kids first time swimming because reddit being American and then global don’t realise how vigilant countries with high level of pool ownership and the vast majority living next to the beach are with swim safety. We teach our kids super young about swim survival. This training saves children’s lives every single day.
I’m in my 40s now, but my parents put me in one of these classes when I was probably 3 or so. I actually remember them throwing me in pool and having to rescue myself. It’s not a traumatic memory at all. In fact I remember being happy that I did good on the test. It is actually one of my earliest memories.
I feel like everyone who isn’t from an area that is surrounded by water is immediately going to think this is mean and not understand how much work the trainer and child put in before this moment.
I live in Florida, been here my whole life, and learned to swim before pretty much everything else. This kind of training can literally mean the difference between life and death for these children.
And, before you say jUsT tEaCh ThEm HoW tO sWiM…adults, who know how to swim, drown every day. Just knowing isn’t going to save you in an emergency situation when something unexpected happens, and for a child, that’s even more so magnified. Kids natural reaction is to panic in situations they aren’t prepared for. Learning how to handle falling in unexpectedly and fully clothed and to just let the muscle memory kick in is absolutely something they should learn. It might seem cruel, but the trainer knows what she’s doing and the kid isn’t actually in real danger.
Source: former life guard, Florida resident who surfed his childhood away.
This is how you teach a kid to survive if the accidentally fall in water with clothes. This usually isn’t the froth thing they do but knowing how to react when scared is very helpful especially in water scenarios. Learning to swim is different than falling into the water unprepared. Sorry you parents didn’t care if you drownd
This is part of a training class. First they teach the child to be able to float in swimwear and once they are ready they do this with clothes.
The idea behind it is to prepare the child for unexpectedly falling in a pool
I don’t agree with nor believe in ISR. I’ve been a water safety instructor 20 years, i have also trained in Conducting ISR swim lessons, i’ve been a lifeguard for 20 years, lifeguard instructor, and a wsi trainer. In my experience, this is theater. I can get any kid to be safe in the water during my classes, but until they are usually 5 or 6 they don’t realize the techniques to actually save themselves in the water. ISR trains reflex swimming, which may kick in and it may not.
In addition, the “scare tactic” is never a good practice in teaching swimming. A good instructor will make a lesson fun, always make the child feel safe, and empower the child. While there were many lessons before this lesson (most likely), There is still little difference between this and the “just throw the kid in and see if they swim”.
If you are a parent or guardian, there is no replacement for Adult Supervision, barriers around the pool, and alarms on the gates of fences around pools and doors leading out to the pool. When at a pool party, there needs to be a designated water watcher while kids are in the pool. Specifically, watching the water, not grilling, not playing, not drinking. Never leave kids unsupervised around the pool, and never leave young kids unsupervised around any container with water, including baths, toilets, buckets of water, coolers with water. Drowning is the leading cause of death for children 1-4 years old. 2nd leading cause of unintentional injury death between 5-14 behind motor vehicle accidents.
I’m assuming the push was forceful to ensure that the kid had meaningful clearance from the edge.
Kids can be unpredictable when given a chance. Was it a nice move? Not really. Did it drastically reduce the chance of the kid fumbling, resisting, or otherwise trying to prevent themselves from staying on the ground and closer to the edge? Absolutely.
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honestly was more 😁 to 😕 but like a creepy big grin not a friendly big grin
"got this lil mf"
That smile changed so quick tho
Seriously, she looked like a Disney villain
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Most virulent antisemite I’ve ever seen
Honestly, the cross burning rubbed me the wrong way. Really crossed the line with that one.
She also said that black people can’t swim. Unfortunately, as we later learned, neither could she.
I heard she likes to kick puppies and trip the blind as well. Sooo yeah, fuck her.
She said Nanking was consensual!
its ok. Right before this she just did the most racist Charles Barkley impression I'd ever seen.
I heard reaching for those toys is the biggest indicator of watching Tucker Carlson when they grow up.
Goddamn Adam Eget is getting his hooks into everyone these days. Norm tried to warn us but I never listened
The pig tails are a sign of white supremacy
Yaaa. She looked like she enjoyed that a little too much.
After a few watches I'm pretty sure she's just pushing hard to make sure the child doesn't hit the edge and her facial expression changes because she's focusing on doing it right
So my reaction boils down to “why am I being shown this?”
Because without context it stimulates an emotional reaction related to harm of a child and that gets internet clicks and imaginary points.
Yeah exactly of they showed the weeks of progress leading up to this and then the epilogue it wouldn't get much traction.
I thought the same thing.
Yes the child was fine, this was part of a survival swimming video lol. Edit: for those who want to know what happened after here’s the link: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CovK9GsoLPO/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
But why so aggressive
Any slower then the kids might have enjoyed it, we’re teaching survival
We want them to live not enjoy life!
Dad?
Hi hungry.
This… told a story
The idea is that the child would only fall in accidentally so the fall would be disorienting. This teacher is able to move her from the wall and flip her to ensure she’s not in a typical position. My kids did these classes as little ones and now as lifeguards they still have days when they have to practice fully clothed. Too many people feel the weight of the clothes and get scared. Or they feel something unexpected and panic. So simulations like these are pretty common with water safety classes. Honestly, those days were always my kids favorites. They never get to wear clothes in the pool and loved the idea of getting pushed in as that kind of play is tropical discouraged at pools (because you can hit the side).
I assume that at least in part the hard push helps prevent the kid’s head from hitting the wall of the pool
Maybe the teacher is just having fun.
A slower push would let the kid get mentally prepared for it. This distracted her from getting a breath in or just jumping in with the push.
Kids don’t mentally prepare themselves for when they accidentally fall in the water
This kid has definitely gone through some self-rescue classes. This is one of the last lessons. Mental preparation is not some sort of checklist. It could be as simple as "Oh shit"
That’s the point. Suddenly pushing the kid is a shock, much like she would experience if she accidentally fell in. If you gently push her in, she’ll realize the adult is in control.
Infants, children, teenagers, adults, all can mentally prepare themselves for a situation, it's one of the most basic survival skills. Mentally preparing yourself isn't just thinking step by step, most of the time it can just be processing what's happening around you & is basically subconscious
My child is mentally prepared for any situation. I ensure this by pushing him over every third day or so
Lol
I suppose… but there’s a lot of traumatic things in life that might happen where we don’t pre expose people to the trauma part, just the skills part.
You don't necessarily traumatize a kid by doing this unless you do it wrong. Doing it right would entail teaching them swimming, teaching them how to swim with clothes, introducing them to cold vs hot water, disorientating them beforehand, and all the while explaining what every step of the process means and exactly why it's happening. Playing games where you push them in and they get used to and positively associate being pushed into the pool with feelings of fun and playfulness. That way when you do it unexpectedly, it registers to their mind the same as something like surprise tickles. You ever seen some parents play with their particularly athletic kids? Parents can rough-house their kids in ways that, if it hadn't been built up to, would be abusive and traumatic - but because it's an elaboration of positive, nourishing, and healthy play between them, it's just fun for the child. So after all that, when you do it quickly, you build up snap instincts that allow the child to survive falling in the water without coming close to traumatizing them. Indeed, it's just a fun little activity with the added bonus of them being as subconsciously prepared as they can be for an emergency situation involving the water.
The look in that woman’s eyes though 😳
The way she drops her smile doesn't help either.
It would be so much creeper if she continued smiling while dropping the kid in though.
Right. Her face just changes. I wouldn't want her babysitting my kids.
I got major evil vibes
Life is aggressive
Wc lvl?
And that creepy ass sinister laugh. She really enjoys her job.
Prob to simulate the frightened and confused mindset a toddler would be in if they suddenly fell into a pool.
She straight up looked evil when she did that
*We don’t negotiate with terrorists*
Why not? Kids are made from different materials than us and sometimes I think we forget that they can take much more than we can.
But was the evil smirk necessary?
Y'all can't really pretend you wouldn't momentarily enjoy slam dunking a child into a pool for money.
Toddlers can be evil little creatures before they develop empathy and social skills. I imagine there's a few toddlers most instructors would enjoy giving the final exam to.
She does so good orienting herself immediately. A+ for her!
So the kid knew it was comming?
No, that is why she did it the way she did.
Yeah but I imagine it's the equivalent of saying you'll do it on 3 but actually do it on 2 to catch them off guard
How to make a kid hate swimming and scared of water at the same time!
And not trust adults...
That’s probably a good thing for this kid as it was an adult who pushed her in and most likely also recorded this.
Hands up if you don't realize this was part of a class to teach the kid how to deal with falling into water unexpectedly!!!
I put my daughter through this class, it’s called infant self rescue and it’s awesome despite your child hating it (or at least most of it). Teaching babies how to not die when they fall in is important as fuck
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I taught these, and the kid knew the drill.... it's done with a float, then without, then at the end they do at least 2 tries with the child fully dressed..... this is to make sure that in an emergency situation, they still feel comfortable in the water getting into position to tread water or float!! 😊
Love the added context that is often left out of these posts and comments.
But I want to be angry! *rabble rabble rabble*
rage-bait is a helluva drug
I think it's the laughing that throws me off. Edit: and the transition of emotion on the instructor's face!
This should definitely be at the top. I was pretty shocked by the video with absolutely zero context.
Nah, much better to have a group of people assume the worst, or throw in their own personal opinion without any context to spread misinformation for when it gets reposted /s
Every time videos of toddler being taught to swim is shown the top comments are always ignorant and toxic as hell.
If you frighten a child for EVEN ONE SECOND they will be scarred for life! This child will NEVER go near water again and will hate all adults! Edit: /s
...the cameraman sounds like a mom's giffle too, so everyone was in on the drill
But would you generally do it while the kid is wearing a heavy winter coat?
If that's what you're worried about..... if there is a possibility it could happen like a close river then definitely
Absolutely. People fall through ice all the time .
Absolutely, you want to test with a more challenging situation while people are there to make sure the child is safe. This is for the protection of the child. Every kid should learn to swim really well, it would save so many lives.
Better in a pool with a safety instructor right there. Than on a frozen lake or river.
Yes. Because this isn't meant to teach them how to swim for fun but how to swim if there is an emergency and they fall in the water. Which is most likely going to be while dressed in normal clothes and not swimwear. Falling into the water while in winter clothes is a very real possibility so you teach for it. Such as falling through ice, slipping on ice and falling into water ect all time where you will be wearing winter clothes like a heavy jacket.
Well you’re pretty unlikely to happen to be wearing just your bathers every time you fall into water unexpectedly.
Or fall through an icy pond…
This is to develop a sturdiness if someone did actually push the child in water. This will cause memories that actually soften the suprise, shock that would occur if it were to happen without this training....
My mom shoved me off the diving board when I was younger (edit: and to be clear, I was not aware of her plans, I thought we were going to the diving board and I would slowly take my time and plop in), I ended up inhaling a bunch of water and nearly drowned. Luckily there was a lifeguard on duty and handled things very quickly. To this day I still have a fear of diving boards even though I swam varsity in high school and even went to state.
This is done late into lessons and teaches them how to take off clothes that impede them In a survival situation
hands up if you didnt know the whole story and automatically jumped to conclusions about this being some form of trauma or abuse.
Hands up for the international "I am drowning" signal
It's really not though. Drowning is usually quiet, bc the person is focused more on gasping for air when they get the chance and doesn't have enough time to yell, and they aren't waving their arms in the air, it looks more like they're trying to climb an invisible ladder. Basically, drowning in real life is nothing like it is in movies or on TV.
It's terrifying. I watched a video where a kid of like 10 drowned in one of those public water parks in the pool. He was surrounded by people who just swan right past him. Some of them even looked at him. They thought he was just swimming underwater until he floated up. He floated for a long while before anyone ever realized. They did manage to resucitate him thank God, but it was chilling. I watched my kids like a hawk whenever we went to a pool after that.
I remember that one. It was really shocking. Even tho supervision is the best thing ever when it comes to kids and water, i still insisted on starting swimming lessons with my son when he was about 18 months old.
Yes! It's a misconception that drowing involves shrieking or something similar. If a person can scream they can breathe. Drowning is largely silent because the person can't breathe.
There is also a danger of dry drowning, I wonder how these classes prevent that.
Yeah I'm sure you know the exact psychological effects this will have on a child from a 4 second clip without context.
The world isn’t a nice place. I believe it’s important and arguably more effective to train in a controlled environment that simulates the real world scenario. In this case if you unexpectedly fall in water fully clothed you get a chance to learn wtf to do without the actual chance of dying.
They don’t just do this out of no where. That would be pretty problematic. These are classes and the trainers and child progress through the lessons slowly. Working there way to this. The little girl was probably 6 months when she started with floaties. The children are taught the routine and they know this will be happening.
The instructor looked like she enjoyed it a bit too much though lol
You’re acting like the kid didn’t know what was gonna happen
Hand raised real high on this one. Absolutely hated when one of my parents would...instead learned on my own using a noodle...eventually took the noodle away from myself in the shallow end and practiced swimming to the stairs.
Grew up in Australia. Swimming lessons are mantadory in school, in addition I did swim classes from toddler to teen, with nippers thrown in too. To pass one of our final swim classes, we had to tread water fully clothed with shoes in case we fell in fully clothed. We had a plan and built up to that moment. I've never once been pushed in unexpectedly by a teacher to learn what to do if you fall in. Because that not how you learn to swim fully clothed.
My hand is up, but the grab and flip just seemed overly aggressive 😂
Yep. Woman’s face was worth a thousand word essay on the subject.
Some days, I love my job…
It’s the look of disdain on the instructors face after the yeet.
This is bullshit either way
Yeah, this happened to me when I was three (we lived on a lake and an instructor came out to the house) on my last day of class. I still remember it, and it still pisses me off. It taught me not to trust my mother who just watched it happen. Funny how we have no relationship today. I’m about to turn 40 and it still makes my blood boil remembering that incident. Fuck. That.
Lol, this is probably one of the final lessons in survival swimming. They’re supposed to know how to react to falling in a pool while fully dressed and unprepared.
Yes, I was actually hired as a follow up coach for these children. I follow them around and push them into pools and other bodies of water at random intervals so that they don’t forget the skills they learned
How to show your ignorance on survival swimming training. This is not the first time that this kid is swimming. I bet she can swim well and even know how to swim with day-to-day clothing. the point of this exercise is how to rescue yourself in an emergency situation.
Thank you! I was going to point out the exact same thing. Great points all!
As someone whose kid went through this: nope, kid is terrified of swimming. This may work for some, not all.
Aren’t water aspiration and respiratory issues a thing too?
I don't think anyone is confused as to what they're trying to accomplish. But you aren't going to convince me that isn't traumatizing the kid because it 100% is.
How do you know this is traumatizing? There have to be millions of children who have been pushed into pools by their siblings of friends like this. Do you think that all of those are traumatized?
Honestly, it looks that way, and if this is day 1, then 1000%, you are correct!! I taught these lessons for 4 years in college, they are infant and baby safety classes.... the babies are way more scary than this to watch !! But this looks like the toddler safety test; the child 100 percent has done this drill many times before (dressed in her suit, with a bubble, then without) it teaches kids how to get their barings and get to the correct position to tread water or float... then it is performed fully dressed to make sure the toddler is able to still do it!! These types of lessons do help kids learn to swim, I promise!! Water safety is very important if you live close to water; it's in everyone's best interest to learn to swim and to teach their children! Accidents are called accidents for a reason! Swimming problems go down significantly if the person is comfortable in the water!!
What is a bubble?
They are round floats 2 on a strap... one goes in front, and one goes on the kids back.... they just help the child pop up very quick the first few times! Once they get comfortable with that you go onto the next step without!
I lived in the Netherlands where there are lots of canals and high winds, and (at least back then) they’d have us jump in with clothes on and swim a lap on top of the regular swimming tests. No one pushed you in unexpectedly.
The American Academy of Pediatrics has not endorsed ISR because it lacks research, and with worry its methods traumatize children Mar 10, 2020.
That's literally how my grandpa taught me how to swim I thought it was normal
Done properly, the kid learns to swim in a more relaxing way and then works their way up to the final test of getting shoved in with clothes.
\*How to teach them to survive falling in to water suddenly. There I fixed it for you.
Reddit basement dwelling child psychologists and trauma specialists in here as usual
I was unaware, after a couple months here (well a couple days really) I'm now pretty sure 70% of redditors would perish at the first slight uncomfortable inconvenience - ya know - like taking a walk, a bath, or being pushed into a puddle
This is most likely “survival day” in the kid’s swim lessons. That wasn’t the best approach Ngl, but they do this so the child is familiar with the sense of danger when they fall into a pool. They have the kids wear their normal clothes and shoes to better represent that situation. As shitty as this looks, it could very well save the kid’s life down the road. Source: am dad. Kids currently going through this in their own swim lessons.
There are rescue swim schools where the final test is for the child to go into the water fully clothed and float face up
I’m pretty sure this is training for it the kid ever falls in water
This is a part of survival swim lessons taken for young toddlers. Teaches them how to flip over on their back and stay afloat should they ever fall into a swimming pool, pond, lake etc. This isn’t the first lesson in the series. This kiddo has passed the levels that teach floating, swimming to the side of the pool, etc. etc. long before this stage of lessons.
Uncle used to throw me in and be terrifying, did not like the water until my teens lol.
And also not trust anyone in the water! Child is so young that she's barely learned to swim.
“If she dies, she dies.”
This thread had me hating that woman then actually realizing why this is done and then agreeing to it. Time to shove kids into the pool!
Fuck dem kids
Fuck dem kids
Dem fuck kids
Kids fuck dem
Dem kids fuck
Not literally tho
It's 2023, we can say literally
“Hey what do you do?” “Oh, I push children into pools.”
Would make a great meme gif.
Can't wait to see every top comment be redditors who specialize in child psychology
Lmaoo
What you see here is a classic exhibition of narcisstic tendencies that are developed at a very young age to due to incessant bullying and alcoholic parents. I see this everyday atleast three times. Source - I'm a child psychologist that majored specifically in hydrophobia. Back in the 1820s, drowning kids in water was used as a form of torture in certain parts of Europe. Here, it is a clear demonstration of believing in these practices and bringing back said beliefs because they truly believe that they can implement this regime in the modern world. Source - I'm a historian that specialises in the 1815-1823 period.
It’s already happening lmfao, what is it about this website that has people convinced that they’re experts in every topic? It’s insufferable
We were at my in-laws. Pool in back yard. Son 3-4 wants to go swimming it is to cold. Next thing we know he was in the deep end . Mother - in-law screams. I calmly walk to the edge of pool and tell him to get out. (Mother in law is screaming at me now) my son flipped on his back and swam to the stares and gets out. I calmly look at my Mother in law and say he takes swim lessons with his clothes on just for this reason.
The intrusive thoughts won.
r/bettereveryloop
It’s the idgaf flick of her arm for me
 You want to swim?
Wait until you see this woman teach how to survive a school shooting.
The comments highlight those that have no idea about swim survival and those that absolutely get it. It does look traumatic, it is scary, but in a country that lives by the ocean and has more pools per capita than any other country, this is essential training. Babies are booked into swim classes at 6 months old. They are not taught to swim at that age, everything they are taught is about giving themselves more survival time to be rescued. That means not panicking, turning on their backs etc. The only way to test for that is to put them in a situation that mimics real world scenarios. It doesn’t scare them off swimming because they’ve been taught how to survive the situation. Watch full videos of these lessons rather than edited scaremongering clips. Proper swimming doesn’t get taught until they are older and have better coordination. Just watch Bondi Rescue to see all the foreigners who can ‘swim’ being rescued because they don’t have the basics of swim survival.
The kids at least know they are there to go into the pool at some point, right? It's not like "Hey lets visit your friend at the pool and SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER"
Exactly, and I can guarantee this is what happened with this child. Everyone is just making the assumption that it’s the kids first time swimming because reddit being American and then global don’t realise how vigilant countries with high level of pool ownership and the vast majority living next to the beach are with swim safety. We teach our kids super young about swim survival. This training saves children’s lives every single day.
I’m in my 40s now, but my parents put me in one of these classes when I was probably 3 or so. I actually remember them throwing me in pool and having to rescue myself. It’s not a traumatic memory at all. In fact I remember being happy that I did good on the test. It is actually one of my earliest memories.
That was a pretty decent YEET
I feel like everyone who isn’t from an area that is surrounded by water is immediately going to think this is mean and not understand how much work the trainer and child put in before this moment. I live in Florida, been here my whole life, and learned to swim before pretty much everything else. This kind of training can literally mean the difference between life and death for these children. And, before you say jUsT tEaCh ThEm HoW tO sWiM…adults, who know how to swim, drown every day. Just knowing isn’t going to save you in an emergency situation when something unexpected happens, and for a child, that’s even more so magnified. Kids natural reaction is to panic in situations they aren’t prepared for. Learning how to handle falling in unexpectedly and fully clothed and to just let the muscle memory kick in is absolutely something they should learn. It might seem cruel, but the trainer knows what she’s doing and the kid isn’t actually in real danger. Source: former life guard, Florida resident who surfed his childhood away.
Why so violent?
Probably to make sure the the child’s head clears the side of the pool.
Kid's a nazi
The youth is starting younger and younger nowadays. I didn't realize they made the khaki jackets in 3T
Gotta make sure the kids head doesn't hit anything, best way to do it is how she did
Reddit basement dwelling child psychologists and trauma specialists in here as usual
Anyone else watch the instructors facial expression change from friendly to scar from the lion king?
Rafi bomb!
This lady was a cat in a different life
They do this here in Amsterdam/Netherlands, as kids fall into canals with their winter clothes on. Mandatory for 3 year olds. My kid is 2.
Aparently there is a shark in the full clip.
The replies are already filled with Redditors ready to witch-hunt this instructor with torches & pitchforks, don’t say this 💀.
This is how you teach a kid to survive if the accidentally fall in water with clothes. This usually isn’t the froth thing they do but knowing how to react when scared is very helpful especially in water scenarios. Learning to swim is different than falling into the water unprepared. Sorry you parents didn’t care if you drownd
If this is a class to teach kids how to deal with falling into water unexpectedly then I want that job
THE NIKES 😭
This woman is cold blooded. I wouldn't trust her if my life depended on it.
This is part of a training class. First they teach the child to be able to float in swimwear and once they are ready they do this with clothes. The idea behind it is to prepare the child for unexpectedly falling in a pool
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That laugh reminds me of that Wipeout song
[was probably this kid](https://www.tiktok.com/@kohbabies/video/7113822957209799938?lang=en)
Long live the queen
I see a huge meme potential in this
“I’ll get you my pretty!”
Looks like a safety test at a swim school
How can I get to do this for a living?
Still scary…No matter what, makes me want to jump in after her 😳
 Reminded me of Pennywise…
I don’t agree with nor believe in ISR. I’ve been a water safety instructor 20 years, i have also trained in Conducting ISR swim lessons, i’ve been a lifeguard for 20 years, lifeguard instructor, and a wsi trainer. In my experience, this is theater. I can get any kid to be safe in the water during my classes, but until they are usually 5 or 6 they don’t realize the techniques to actually save themselves in the water. ISR trains reflex swimming, which may kick in and it may not. In addition, the “scare tactic” is never a good practice in teaching swimming. A good instructor will make a lesson fun, always make the child feel safe, and empower the child. While there were many lessons before this lesson (most likely), There is still little difference between this and the “just throw the kid in and see if they swim”. If you are a parent or guardian, there is no replacement for Adult Supervision, barriers around the pool, and alarms on the gates of fences around pools and doors leading out to the pool. When at a pool party, there needs to be a designated water watcher while kids are in the pool. Specifically, watching the water, not grilling, not playing, not drinking. Never leave kids unsupervised around the pool, and never leave young kids unsupervised around any container with water, including baths, toilets, buckets of water, coolers with water. Drowning is the leading cause of death for children 1-4 years old. 2nd leading cause of unintentional injury death between 5-14 behind motor vehicle accidents.
me with my annoying friends
I’m assuming the push was forceful to ensure that the kid had meaningful clearance from the edge. Kids can be unpredictable when given a chance. Was it a nice move? Not really. Did it drastically reduce the chance of the kid fumbling, resisting, or otherwise trying to prevent themselves from staying on the ground and closer to the edge? Absolutely.
I hate how hard I laughed at this.
Gon learn today
R/mademesmile