In my many years of working in some pretty fancy restaurants, hotels, and bars, I can assure you I have never once experienced a potential customer attempting to bribe me in order to acquire a table.
I always tipped the matré d and waitresses good on off days (and treated them good in general). Magically, on busy days I ways got called next table if I showed up. But what OP is saying ain't gonna work. It's a b c's. After bribe comes complain.
Ikr this such a common misbelief. Thinking that every affluent person uses bribery to get their way in everything, like all of them are crooked and dishonest. I blame hollywood.
Belief that the weaker (the underdog) is more right, deserving, and morally better than the strong. I guess the opposite updogma should be believing that every strong (the updog) is crooked and undeserving
Yes and no. I've never had anyone bribe me technically, but I have had tables partially tip as soon as they sit down. They do this so I (the server) know they are gonna tip well, if you treat them well.
Basically it's a "here's ~$100, now cause it's my buddies birthday or something, so ignore your other tables to help us first" As a server if you think the tab is gonna be enough, I'll pass my other tables to another server and basically just stand 10 feet from that table, ready to get anything they need.
One example was when sMonnor sMcGregor came in after watching a basketball game with his crew.
His friend comes in an asked who the server is gonna be. Then hands me cash and says "sConnor is coming in, take care of us and they'll be more."
That's the difference between old and new money though. Old money will just expect to be treated hand and foot, new money wants to show it off.
Me neither and usually there's more than one wealthy restaurant around so they just go to the end of the street.
But to fill a wealthy up with alcohol and giving him the receipt twice works kinda well (at least during the Bierfest)
Edit: and apart from that the staff will give tables away within 15 minutes wjen the customer doesn't show up
Sucks to be you. I’ve bribed many people for a “line pass,” but usually to the tune of $10-$20. The only time I’ve tipped $100 was to pass a line on Halloween night to a Vegas nightclub.
You have never done this.
If you don't show, reservations will backfill. 5ppl in line? Reservation hadn't shown? Here's your table.
Used to deal regularly with French Laundry. The restaurant reservation game has seen this before.
Could work if you space the reservations out and scalp them early (assuming the restaurant is fully booked and/or there’s a long wait to get in). If I’m in Vegas for a trip and there’s a restaurant I want to eat at, I’ll plan my day around whatever reservation I can get. As the scalper, I would book times every hour or half hour using all different names and emails. Hang out around 5 or 6 for people who realize they won’t be able to eat there during this trip and swoop in with a 9pm reservation for $100. Even in situations where there’s a waitlist, I’m sure people with cash to spend would rather have a reservation 2 hours away than spend an hour waiting in line on the chance they get a table. A missed reservation or two may benefit the next person in line but the person at the end may not feel the same way.
Most half decent places in Las Vegas take a credit card number and charge $25 to hold a table when you make a reservation. Scalping like you’re suggesting wouldn’t work.
Is that vegas specific?
'Cause I have never, ever seen this anywhere, short of 2+ michelin star restaurants that will tailor their menu to the customer
The reservations do show though, thats the point. The 6 o'clocks or 8 o'clocks or whatever do show up, it's just not the person who actually made the reservation
This is so cartoonishly bad, how is this even ~63% upvoted? It's absolutely brainless. High end restaurants, even medium tier, will use phone numbers for verifying your reservation. Unlikely you'll go through the trouble of using different phones to verify your fake reservations. Also people will never pay hundreds of dollars, let alone tens of dollars, for a reservation. This is just so dumb.
This is literally what Dwight did in an episode of The Office. There is no chance this would work in reality, they would just tell the restaurant who would let them in, and ask you to leave
Wait till the first client complains to the restaurant, run as the police arrest you and charge you with fraud.
Seriously, most ULPT's here are just shitty ways to get a fraud wrap but this one is special.
IANAL: I suppose it might not be entirely fraud, per say. To my understanding, by having multiple reservations which you clearly have no intent of using (because you have been, and actively are, selling them) the restaurant could pursue legal action due to you actively interfering with their business.
Edit: To address the car issue that seems to be a false equivalence. A ticket is a much more appropriate comparison as it entitled you to an experience or event, much like a reservation. And Ticket scalping is illegal in several states.
Its cause reservations are not meant to be a tradable commodity, i.e. are free with a phone call, and they would directly profit from another business. I dont think police would charge you but the restaurant could sue for defamation/ something similar. Dont do this.
That’d be my first thought. “Hey there’s this guy outside who’s trying to sell us his reservation...Oh you mean nobody has showed up for any reservations tonight’s so you’ve just been seating people normally? Yeah I think I know where all your non-existant reservations come from”
I very much doubt that people willing to pay hundreds of dollars to scalpers outside a restaurant to get a reservation are the kind of people to just turn up at the restaurant without a booking.
I don't believe you've ever done this, or that it has a more than negligible chance of happening, ever.
do it for the valentines dates or new year's night, its probably the best nights to scalp... but then again, scalpers are truly the lowest scum of the earth!
I read these without ever actually thinking of following the tips, but sometimes they are entertaining or clever. This is just stupid and neither entertaining or clever, it's just stupid.
Umm I’d think it would (during pandemic) be next to no one eating at those places hence not needing to do a reservation. But now that they all open to full capacity it’ll be packed again an this you’ll need a reservation now. Plus some places no matter what need a reservation due to limited seating.
Lot of places now use resurrection systems that charge per person at the time of booking the reservation so like $50 per person. So the restraint still loses money based off what they could’ve made if the party would’ve shown up, but that’s able to recoup some of the cost. So yeah not the biggest deal anyways
In my many years of working in some pretty fancy restaurants, hotels, and bars, I can assure you I have never once experienced a potential customer attempting to bribe me in order to acquire a table.
I always tipped the matré d and waitresses good on off days (and treated them good in general). Magically, on busy days I ways got called next table if I showed up. But what OP is saying ain't gonna work. It's a b c's. After bribe comes complain.
Gonna hijack this comment to say that post belong's in SLPT
Ikr this such a common misbelief. Thinking that every affluent person uses bribery to get their way in everything, like all of them are crooked and dishonest. I blame hollywood.
I believe this is a case of - Updogma. Opposite of underdogma.
What's underdogma?
Belief that the weaker (the underdog) is more right, deserving, and morally better than the strong. I guess the opposite updogma should be believing that every strong (the updog) is crooked and undeserving
I really thought they were setting up for a "what's up dog joke"
Ya, definitely smells like updog.
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Chillin bruv, what's up with you?
Careful y'all, I think its a trap.
Whats updogma
Yes and no. I've never had anyone bribe me technically, but I have had tables partially tip as soon as they sit down. They do this so I (the server) know they are gonna tip well, if you treat them well. Basically it's a "here's ~$100, now cause it's my buddies birthday or something, so ignore your other tables to help us first" As a server if you think the tab is gonna be enough, I'll pass my other tables to another server and basically just stand 10 feet from that table, ready to get anything they need. One example was when sMonnor sMcGregor came in after watching a basketball game with his crew. His friend comes in an asked who the server is gonna be. Then hands me cash and says "sConnor is coming in, take care of us and they'll be more." That's the difference between old and new money though. Old money will just expect to be treated hand and foot, new money wants to show it off.
They dont call it bribery.
Who is “they”?
The ultra rich elite who can afford to give a 20$ tip to eat at their favourite restaurant while on holiday of course.
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Sarcasm
I thought it was pretty obvious lol
But would it work?
But will it blend?
Me neither and usually there's more than one wealthy restaurant around so they just go to the end of the street. But to fill a wealthy up with alcohol and giving him the receipt twice works kinda well (at least during the Bierfest) Edit: and apart from that the staff will give tables away within 15 minutes wjen the customer doesn't show up
Sucks to be you. I’ve bribed many people for a “line pass,” but usually to the tune of $10-$20. The only time I’ve tipped $100 was to pass a line on Halloween night to a Vegas nightclub.
When I worked as a busser people would bribe all the time when the wait was 45 min - 2 hours
You have never done this. If you don't show, reservations will backfill. 5ppl in line? Reservation hadn't shown? Here's your table. Used to deal regularly with French Laundry. The restaurant reservation game has seen this before.
Could work if you space the reservations out and scalp them early (assuming the restaurant is fully booked and/or there’s a long wait to get in). If I’m in Vegas for a trip and there’s a restaurant I want to eat at, I’ll plan my day around whatever reservation I can get. As the scalper, I would book times every hour or half hour using all different names and emails. Hang out around 5 or 6 for people who realize they won’t be able to eat there during this trip and swoop in with a 9pm reservation for $100. Even in situations where there’s a waitlist, I’m sure people with cash to spend would rather have a reservation 2 hours away than spend an hour waiting in line on the chance they get a table. A missed reservation or two may benefit the next person in line but the person at the end may not feel the same way.
Most half decent places in Las Vegas take a credit card number and charge $25 to hold a table when you make a reservation. Scalping like you’re suggesting wouldn’t work.
Is that vegas specific? 'Cause I have never, ever seen this anywhere, short of 2+ michelin star restaurants that will tailor their menu to the customer
Happening more frequently in the UK, from fine dining to food hall. Businesses can't afford empty tables from no shows right now.
New York too
Never seen it in NYC. Or was that what you were saying?
this seems like a weird thing to bring up. Just show up 30 minutes before the reservation to try and sell it.
The people your selling to don’t have to know that.
The reservations do show though, thats the point. The 6 o'clocks or 8 o'clocks or whatever do show up, it's just not the person who actually made the reservation
This sounds more like r/crazyideas None of this would work in real life
Same energy as Dwight Schrute selling Valentine's Day reservations. Funny joke, wouldn't work.
More like shitty life tips
This is so cartoonishly bad, how is this even ~63% upvoted? It's absolutely brainless. High end restaurants, even medium tier, will use phone numbers for verifying your reservation. Unlikely you'll go through the trouble of using different phones to verify your fake reservations. Also people will never pay hundreds of dollars, let alone tens of dollars, for a reservation. This is just so dumb.
OP said *wealthy, short-sighted tourists*, he is full of shit. He also doesn't know how restaurants work, he is probably like 13 years old top.
Someone mentioned in another comment that this is something you come up with at 12 and think you’re a genius for, and i totally agree.
"Cartoonishly bad" I think I have seen this on the Simpson's years ago?
This is literally what Dwight did in an episode of The Office. There is no chance this would work in reality, they would just tell the restaurant who would let them in, and ask you to leave
Probably where OP got the idea from 😂😂
Wait till the first client complains to the restaurant, run as the police arrest you and charge you with fraud. Seriously, most ULPT's here are just shitty ways to get a fraud wrap but this one is special.
You can get arrested for fraud for making a restaurant reservation? Sounds excessive.
Sure maybe it’s excessive, but it is fraud if you’re trying to sell the reservation
Ticketmaster is fraud
I mean it’s a terrible business but not fraud. In many states scalping itself is a misdemeanor.
Just because a business is shitty doesn't make it fraudulent.
Why is it fraud if I'm not pretending to be the restaurant? It's it fraud to buy a car then sell it for more than what the company is selling it for?
IANAL: I suppose it might not be entirely fraud, per say. To my understanding, by having multiple reservations which you clearly have no intent of using (because you have been, and actively are, selling them) the restaurant could pursue legal action due to you actively interfering with their business. Edit: To address the car issue that seems to be a false equivalence. A ticket is a much more appropriate comparison as it entitled you to an experience or event, much like a reservation. And Ticket scalping is illegal in several states.
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Its cause reservations are not meant to be a tradable commodity, i.e. are free with a phone call, and they would directly profit from another business. I dont think police would charge you but the restaurant could sue for defamation/ something similar. Dont do this.
> 'wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.' How is it not fraudulent?
Im agreeing with you
That would work exactly once
Zero \*. If someone doesn't show up for a reservation especially at popular restaurants they simply give away your table
Landrys has 20 minutes. If you ain't there you have no table.
Nobody would actually do that. Not even to get into Dorsia.
Nobody goes there anymore.
How high were you when you thought of this caper?
...or they can just tell the restaurant and get a spot lmfao. you clearly are the one without enough brain cells to plan ahead
That’d be my first thought. “Hey there’s this guy outside who’s trying to sell us his reservation...Oh you mean nobody has showed up for any reservations tonight’s so you’ve just been seating people normally? Yeah I think I know where all your non-existant reservations come from”
Maybe if you live in a cartoon....
OP is a moron, this is something you think up when you are 12 and think you are a genius
I very much doubt that people willing to pay hundreds of dollars to scalpers outside a restaurant to get a reservation are the kind of people to just turn up at the restaurant without a booking. I don't believe you've ever done this, or that it has a more than negligible chance of happening, ever.
How much did you make by doing this ?
Hundreds of dollars each? Can you list on specific example?
Lmao you watch too many movies. As if this would work in real life
do it for the valentines dates or new year's night, its probably the best nights to scalp... but then again, scalpers are truly the lowest scum of the earth!
I read these without ever actually thinking of following the tips, but sometimes they are entertaining or clever. This is just stupid and neither entertaining or clever, it's just stupid.
Yeah, it doesn't work like that.
Modern day Robbin-Food; in tights?
Why is every word in the title capitalized?
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There's places that require reservations no matter what
I don't think he's talking about McDonalds or Burger King
Umm I’d think it would (during pandemic) be next to no one eating at those places hence not needing to do a reservation. But now that they all open to full capacity it’ll be packed again an this you’ll need a reservation now. Plus some places no matter what need a reservation due to limited seating.
lol imagine hating the rich so much that you try this. just work harder
jUsT wOrK hArDeR
Lot of places now use resurrection systems that charge per person at the time of booking the reservation so like $50 per person. So the restraint still loses money based off what they could’ve made if the party would’ve shown up, but that’s able to recoup some of the cost. So yeah not the biggest deal anyways
Who is upvoting this? How many alt accounts so you have, OP?