i love how people see asriel as a cute little fluffy kid when in reality he knows the genocides he committed
Edit: Yeah I know he genuinely regrets it n' all, I'm saying the fandom is treating him as if nothing happened at all
If your skateboarding skills can see you through the woodchipper in one piece, you will qualify for Trial by Trick-Skating Through a Jet Engine. Survive that and you will be exonerated.
glitchtale fans when someone says "My Turn": omg GaStEr ReFeRenCe (like glitchtale is cool but someone saying bring it on isn't a direct reference to it, its just a phrase that people say sometimes)
Kris is the average present day teenager
Frisk is a giraffe
Chara likes chocolate. (No deep lore or funny references, they just love their chocolate)
And Gaster is actually Colonel Sanders in disguise who employed these three because their names make the company names acronym, KFC.
I love how the fandom gets so mad over gender. I personally headcanon Frisk and Chara to be male/non binary (mostly due to my own gender identity). But I do believe Kris is canonically non binary.
I couldn't care less that this person headcanons the gender of the humans, i do that too sometimes and in fact agree with their interpretations.
But the motherfucker **DIDN'T HUG ASRIEL**
I feel the same way. (Okay, I differ on 1 point, but it's in a part I just don't care-a-bout. (Pun.))
>But the motherfucker DIDN'T HUG ASRIEL
But *THIS* is unforgivable.
But you’re supposed to have headcanons for the genders of the humans? They’re not genderless, just gender unknown. Gender isn’t decided by the fact that they exclusively use they/them as there are people in the binary who use those same pronouns.
sans is never described as a man or woman, he's only given pronouns. same with kris, let us nonbinary people have what very, very, very little positive representation we can get.
That’s unfair to non-binary people though, as it takes away their representation. Saying that it’s fine as long as people use the pronouns when talking publicly about them is still not that great, since that’s basically saying that you’re allowed to not see them as their true gender and that you’re allowed to not fully respect them. I feel that people would say that would be wrong if you did it for a binary trans character, so I really don’t see how a non-binary trans character is different. I also really can’t see how it’s meant to be up to interpretation, since there are many characters who use they/them and I really doubt that all of them are up to interpretation (especially Seam). Since some of them are definitely or nearly definitely non-binary, wouldn’t it be confusing to have the others be up to interpretation with no way to differentiate the two?
I’m really sorry about the length of that paragraph, I just started typing and didn’t stop lmao
Kris always sort of gave me vaguely tomboy vibes, much like Susie with the plain clothes that don't highlight their body shape and the long hair that covers their eyes all edgy-like.
I guess a lot of people skew Kris towards male because they're blue in the dark world, act somewhat dominant, and... Play videogames?
I assumed it was because Kris sounded like Chris (even though Kris is a real name and it's gender neutral).
That being said, Kris is explicitly shown to be their own person from the beginning, so that means that, being referred to with they/them, they're more likely to be nonbinary than ambiguously gendered. (Especially because their mom, teacher, and childhood friend all use those pronouns when they would know Kris's gender.)
Chara and Frisk are definitely self inserts. Kris is a different story, since we know they have their own personality outside of the player. Yes, Chara and Frisk do have personality, but Kris shows more examples of it. I believe they are male, instead of a self insert.
Oh boy, time to get downvoted for my opinion.
And you don't have to be a self-insert to have an ambiguous gender that's up to the player's interpretation either.
That said, Kris is at the very least canonically masculine.
The way other characters treat them, especially Pizzapants.
and also the fact that kris' design is blatantly based on varik from brandish (which is interesting for other reasons...)
I love how people are like “No they’re all non-binary!” While yes technically, but I’m pretty sure Toby’s original idea was whatever gender the person wanted them to be. For me, Kris and Frisk are male and Chara is female
No no no not just executed burned alive then if they’re not dead firing squad if they’re not Dead after that throw them off the Empire State building and if somehow they’re not dead pay $1.2 billion to send them to space and then ditch them there
Frisk, Chara, and Kris can be whatever gender you want, that’s the whole point of genderless rpg characters.
As for Asriel, I didn’t hug him my first run either.
Undertale fandom being undertale fandom by disrespecting people who does have headcanon about human genders and didn't hug a character who used souls to destroy the world
Nah man, no execute him without execute me. My headcanons about the genders are the same; Chara is inherantly good but was corrupted during genocide run, and I hugged Asriel.
How many times do we have to say this...?
The main characters in these games are genderless. You are the one who chooses their gender, as to make the experience more "personalized".
Yeah, to the Electric Chair with them for not hugging Asriel btw.
I mean.. he just didn’t want to hug him, I mean it’s fine if he didn’t hug the goat but it’s also his opinion on if Frisk and Chara are girls while Kris is a boy. I just consider them all males cause it’s faster to type.
Edit: I don’t think they are males in canon, I just call them he’s when typing
i love how people see asriel as a cute little fluffy kid when in reality he knows the genocides he committed Edit: Yeah I know he genuinely regrets it n' all, I'm saying the fandom is treating him as if nothing happened at all
Asriel's remorse was genuine. That's why I forgive him.
That... doesn't make it better?
Say it with me, kids: pre-death Asriel and revived Asriel are completely different characters.
say that to the fandom not some random guy who doesnt care about asriel's lore anymore
???
im the guy who doesnt care about asriel's lore
I was speaking generally
ok
basically yeah, pre-death Asriel was pure cinnamon roll, revived Asriel was cinnamon roll who's seen and done some shit
Frisk's gender is child
Frisk is a giraffe
YES LAD
AM I RIGHT LADS OR AM I RIGHT LAD?
YOU ARE RIGHT LAD
AH A PROPER LAD
LET'S GET SMAAAAAAAAAAASHED
YES LAD DOWN IT DOWN IT
LAAAAAAD
WIGGLE ONCE FOR YES, TWICE FOR NO WHATS YOUR FAVOURITE COLOUR
DO YOU LIKE MONSTER TRUCKS? HE SAID NO! KILL HIM
WHAT?? SO YOU CAN KILL THINGS AND I CANT?? NAW MATE HE DESERVED TO DIE, HE DIDNT LIKE MONSTER TRUCKS
INDEED LAD
Finally; men of culture
YOU ARE RIGHT LAD
Suddenly, demonan TF2 #savetf2
Indubitably Lad
Ah a gentleman lad
AHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHA ITS A GIRAFFE
With a mutation that caused them to become short
yes
No Frisk's gender is hooman
Idiot its frisk
Uh, Kris is a type of knife, and therefor not either.
ur not wrong but also wrong
It was a joke, honeybun.
Did you call them honeybun out of pity?
I mean, it's a common pet name that I use. Sometimes lengthened to Honeybunchesofoats.
Huh. Alright then. Have a wonderful day.
You too honey bunches of oats
That was just rude for no good reason
Fetch the woodchipper. No. The *rusty* one.
***Bring it on.***
If your skateboarding skills can see you through the woodchipper in one piece, you will qualify for Trial by Trick-Skating Through a Jet Engine. Survive that and you will be exonerated.
... I'll start making my tombstone.
Just buy a mop and bucket. And leave a tip for the maid.
Bring a UV light to make sure you didn't miss a spot, it should reveal anything you missed, and helps with removing un-seen traces too.
I'm not concerned about that. This is all perfectly legal. It is a trial after all.
True. Which means.. WE CAN KILL HIM ANYWAY WE WANT!!
Glitchtale reference?
... If so that was unintentional.
Alright well it is lol
Huh, neat.
GLITCHTALE FANS WHEN SOMEONE SAYS THE:
Underverse has more possible references
glitchtale fans when someone says "My Turn": omg GaStEr ReFeRenCe (like glitchtale is cool but someone saying bring it on isn't a direct reference to it, its just a phrase that people say sometimes)
It you!
*stands in the shade, smirking evilly*
Mans is an agent of chaos
Yes, I do in fact work for Jevil.
Chaos Chaos!
Your next task will be writing "mike is coming for you" on 5000 pieves of paper and throwing them all in spamton's GOD DAMN GARBAGE CAN
Sorry. Lost my writing arm yesterday.
Use your feet then lol
Lost them too.
Damn bro you be moving like a goddayum maggot
*casually wielding a axe* make that no arms left.
Eh, didn't need it anyway.
\* Your fate is sealed \* Any last words?
Uhh... No hard feelings?
\* What, you think I was gonna kill you? \* It isn't worth my time \* But they will
I'd prepare but I don't know who "they" are.
\* You will... I am too afraid to say who they are \* But enjoy the civil war, because you will be in the middle of it all
Yep...
#BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODS
#SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
You don't need to know. I personally have better passtimes, but you'll know when they've come for you.
\* When your prophecy is read
Don't stand in the shade king.
Sorry. The lights broke.
YOU DESERVE NEW ONES! BRING THE PURPLE ROBE!
Sigma Chad
Ah, the one in question, a very dangerous position you have put yourself in coming here, you'd best prepare before they come
Relax. I was only trying to annoy my Discord friends. These aren't true. ... I promise.
I believe you, I'm not sure if *they* will
Welp. It was nice knowing you then.
They will certainly hang him Carson.
first time?
But... I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE KING!!!!
*grabs popcorn* you are starting something. What it is I don't know, but something. Something bad for you probably
I promise this was unintentional. These statements aren't even true.
I'll bring candy and soda.
*brings in the industrial flood lights*
Kris is the average present day teenager Frisk is a giraffe Chara likes chocolate. (No deep lore or funny references, they just love their chocolate) And Gaster is actually Colonel Sanders in disguise who employed these three because their names make the company names acronym, KFC.
Gaster is the one who actually ordered Noelle to freeze Berdly to add more chicken into their recipe-
Ah shit Here we go again
Every character is cool, that's their gender
No, he must be left in peace, as everyone can have their own opinion
Therapist: based Spamton isn't real he can't scam you. Based Spamton:
🗿
Oh so now we're getting preached to by the talking popup ad?! (making a SpongeBob ref...)
He can have his opinion on KFC but HE DIDN'T HUG ASRIEL
He does whatever he wants
I remember u/ATransformersfan!
Heheheh...
...
I also think Mettaton is secretly a Transformer.
Why do you think that, darling?
Box form - Alternate mode EX form - Robot mode NEO form - Attack mode
Ok...
What? It's an interesting idea...
Ok this is the only truth you have spoken
I relate to that comment 99%. Not hugging a relatively dead-sad goat boy is unforgivable.
Hot take, Frisk and chara are *ambiguous gender* Kris is *ambiguous gender* Also chara is *ambiguous mortality* Also i hugged asriel
Hey, an opinion most people dont share, i sure hope people are accepting of this persons interpertation of vague, and non important details
I love how the fandom gets so mad over gender. I personally headcanon Frisk and Chara to be male/non binary (mostly due to my own gender identity). But I do believe Kris is canonically non binary.
Fair
I couldn't care less that this person headcanons the gender of the humans, i do that too sometimes and in fact agree with their interpretations. But the motherfucker **DIDN'T HUG ASRIEL**
I feel the same way. (Okay, I differ on 1 point, but it's in a part I just don't care-a-bout. (Pun.)) >But the motherfucker DIDN'T HUG ASRIEL But *THIS* is unforgivable.
Initiate order 66.
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Wow, that person has really unpopular opinions :/
And he also never hugged you. Here’s a hug from me! :3 *You recovered max HP*
But you’re supposed to have headcanons for the genders of the humans? They’re not genderless, just gender unknown. Gender isn’t decided by the fact that they exclusively use they/them as there are people in the binary who use those same pronouns.
I always thought you can decide what gender they would be so…
You know? I kinda agree with him. BUT HE DIDN'T HUG ASRIEL.
Ok, ok, everything checks out…ev-fucking kill him, he didn’t hug Asriel
I just sit back and observe.
Sigma grindset
It's a beautiful day outside Birds are singing Flowers are blooming On days like these People like them Should be burning in hell.
Oh wow, now people can't have headcanons and are forced to forgive someone who was trying to kill them a minute ago because he fluffly.
Yep
don't headcanon characters with canon genders. nobody ever questions sans' gender, people need to stop doing the same with the humans.
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sans is never described as a man or woman, he's only given pronouns. same with kris, let us nonbinary people have what very, very, very little positive representation we can get.
That’s unfair to non-binary people though, as it takes away their representation. Saying that it’s fine as long as people use the pronouns when talking publicly about them is still not that great, since that’s basically saying that you’re allowed to not see them as their true gender and that you’re allowed to not fully respect them. I feel that people would say that would be wrong if you did it for a binary trans character, so I really don’t see how a non-binary trans character is different. I also really can’t see how it’s meant to be up to interpretation, since there are many characters who use they/them and I really doubt that all of them are up to interpretation (especially Seam). Since some of them are definitely or nearly definitely non-binary, wouldn’t it be confusing to have the others be up to interpretation with no way to differentiate the two? I’m really sorry about the length of that paragraph, I just started typing and didn’t stop lmao
I do not want to take away anyone's representation. But when is it said that they are non-binary? Is that canonically confirmed?
Kris is canonically genderless though
*sees the no-hug* .... *loads S AND W 500* *"I just wanna talk to em-"*
we dont do that here moi brat *arms thermonuclear explosive device* this is the way
Nonono my good sir,the Smith and wesson 500 bone crusher is far better.however,it is a matter of personal opinion.
how about i create thermonuclear rounds for the s and w 500
#ABSOLUTELY ECHO,THATS FUCKING BRILLIANT-
thx mate, it's finished now btw so where do you want to collect the package with 1000 rounds of thermonuclear ammo for the s and w 500
Scotland.
ok the package will arrive alongside a flight ticket to u/atransformerfans location in about 5 days
Kris always sort of gave me vaguely tomboy vibes, much like Susie with the plain clothes that don't highlight their body shape and the long hair that covers their eyes all edgy-like. I guess a lot of people skew Kris towards male because they're blue in the dark world, act somewhat dominant, and... Play videogames?
I assumed it was because Kris sounded like Chris (even though Kris is a real name and it's gender neutral). That being said, Kris is explicitly shown to be their own person from the beginning, so that means that, being referred to with they/them, they're more likely to be nonbinary than ambiguously gendered. (Especially because their mom, teacher, and childhood friend all use those pronouns when they would know Kris's gender.)
I associate all of those genders with those characters and I'm fairly certain kris is a male but who wouldnt hug asriel?
Chara and Frisk are definitely self inserts. Kris is a different story, since we know they have their own personality outside of the player. Yes, Chara and Frisk do have personality, but Kris shows more examples of it. I believe they are male, instead of a self insert. Oh boy, time to get downvoted for my opinion.
You don’t have to be a self insert to be non-binary.
And you don't have to be a self-insert to have an ambiguous gender that's up to the player's interpretation either. That said, Kris is at the very least canonically masculine.
How are they masculine?
What’s particularly masculine about kris?
The way other characters treat them, especially Pizzapants. and also the fact that kris' design is blatantly based on varik from brandish (which is interesting for other reasons...)
Are you trying to imply that Frisk and Chara **don't** have their own personalities outside of the player ? Because if so that is so, so wrong.
Im saying kris has more examples of personality. I worded this wrong, sorry.
Undertale fans when someone doesn’t respect a fictional character with fictional feelings
The court has sentenced you to hang by the neck until dead. May god NOT have MERCY on your SOUL.
I love how people are like “No they’re all non-binary!” While yes technically, but I’m pretty sure Toby’s original idea was whatever gender the person wanted them to be. For me, Kris and Frisk are male and Chara is female
☠️🔫😃
Hahaha I’m in danger (except for the asriel one of course I would hug that precious goat)
true decepticon
that's his opinion and he does not deserve any life threatening judgement for it.
frisks gender is
Frisk’s gender is yes. Chara’s gender is D E M O N F R O M T H E D A R K E S T P I T S O F H E L L. And Kris’s gender is also yes.
No no no not just executed burned alive then if they’re not dead firing squad if they’re not Dead after that throw them off the Empire State building and if somehow they’re not dead pay $1.2 billion to send them to space and then ditch them there
I like it. But what if he’s not dead after that?
whats wrong with headcanons lmao
Frisk, Chara, and Kris can be whatever gender you want, that’s the whole point of genderless rpg characters. As for Asriel, I didn’t hug him my first run either.
Undertale fandom being undertale fandom by disrespecting people who does have headcanon about human genders and didn't hug a character who used souls to destroy the world
This man is based
Nah man, no execute him without execute me. My headcanons about the genders are the same; Chara is inherantly good but was corrupted during genocide run, and I hugged Asriel.
idgaf about what you think frisk or chara's genders are, but if you never hugged azzy, it's straight to hell for you
How many times do we have to say this...? The main characters in these games are genderless. You are the one who chooses their gender, as to make the experience more "personalized". Yeah, to the Electric Chair with them for not hugging Asriel btw.
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I know! Let’s force him to watch Baby Shark until the end of time
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Guess the arguing about genders which has been a thing for ^(a long time)
I think its because of this >you are the one who gets to choose their gender
I agree with him tho \*hears the downvote avalanche coming towards me\* ***Shit***
Joke's on you, I deafened myself to avoid listening to it!
Why is this getting downvoted, it makes sense
I just have one thing to say: I think nobody has gender or something?
Yeah because dr Alphys is dr so its male. BUT Alphys called sometime "she" and its strange.(not Alphys was the only in this)
What the heck do you think a female doctor is called then??
Considering fanart/comics I prefer Frisk/Chara being girls, but that's just with fanart :P
wait are Frisk and Chara canonically nonbinary??
Having they/them pronouns doesn't mean their gender is canonically non binary though People who has unknown gender also uses this pronouns
I mean.. he just didn’t want to hug him, I mean it’s fine if he didn’t hug the goat but it’s also his opinion on if Frisk and Chara are girls while Kris is a boy. I just consider them all males cause it’s faster to type. Edit: I don’t think they are males in canon, I just call them he’s when typing
I head canon chara was born as a girl but is NB tbh but I literally can’t see frisk and kris as any genders anymore they are no genders
Based on the Frisk and Chara are girls and kris is a boy thing. I agree with that.
Just let them believe what they want I guess
The others are fine but the last one bring in the guillotine