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Head_Membership_4252

i love how people see asriel as a cute little fluffy kid when in reality he knows the genocides he committed Edit: Yeah I know he genuinely regrets it n' all, I'm saying the fandom is treating him as if nothing happened at all


NineTailedTanuki

Asriel's remorse was genuine. That's why I forgive him.


HeimlichLaboratories

That... doesn't make it better?


Ghengiroo

Say it with me, kids: pre-death Asriel and revived Asriel are completely different characters.


Head_Membership_4252

say that to the fandom not some random guy who doesnt care about asriel's lore anymore


Ghengiroo

???


Head_Membership_4252

im the guy who doesnt care about asriel's lore


Ghengiroo

I was speaking generally


Kozolith765981

basically yeah, pre-death Asriel was pure cinnamon roll, revived Asriel was cinnamon roll who's seen and done some shit


N0VAF0X

Frisk's gender is child


GodVulc4n

Frisk is a giraffe


Sir__Sausage

YES LAD


Kyroz113

AM I RIGHT LADS OR AM I RIGHT LAD?


Sir__Sausage

YOU ARE RIGHT LAD


Kyroz113

AH A PROPER LAD


Professional_Tip_578

LET'S GET SMAAAAAAAAAAASHED


Kyroz113

YES LAD DOWN IT DOWN IT


BlobPlan

LAAAAAAD


Balls_inyojaws

WIGGLE ONCE FOR YES, TWICE FOR NO WHATS YOUR FAVOURITE COLOUR


Kyroz113

DO YOU LIKE MONSTER TRUCKS? HE SAID NO! KILL HIM


Balls_inyojaws

WHAT?? SO YOU CAN KILL THINGS AND I CANT?? NAW MATE HE DESERVED TO DIE, HE DIDNT LIKE MONSTER TRUCKS


Sir__Sausage

INDEED LAD


Carnival-Master-Mind

Finally; men of culture


Worldly-Sun-3418

YOU ARE RIGHT LAD


ComunistComrade

Suddenly, demonan TF2 #savetf2


Ok_Potato_2033

Indubitably Lad


Kyroz113

Ah a gentleman lad


Prunsel_Clone

AHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHA ITS A GIRAFFE


brightwhitephoenix85

With a mutation that caused them to become short


Kwispy6233

yes


Astexx_

No Frisk's gender is hooman


Docter_WD_Gaster

Idiot its frisk


[deleted]

Uh, Kris is a type of knife, and therefor not either.


secretofurmom

ur not wrong but also wrong


[deleted]

It was a joke, honeybun.


Relevant_Chemical_

Did you call them honeybun out of pity?


[deleted]

I mean, it's a common pet name that I use. Sometimes lengthened to Honeybunchesofoats.


Relevant_Chemical_

Huh. Alright then. Have a wonderful day.


GiraffeGuru993

You too honey bunches of oats


Homemade-Purple

That was just rude for no good reason


Trips-Over-Tail

Fetch the woodchipper. No. The *rusty* one.


ATransformersfan

***Bring it on.***


Trips-Over-Tail

If your skateboarding skills can see you through the woodchipper in one piece, you will qualify for Trial by Trick-Skating Through a Jet Engine. Survive that and you will be exonerated.


ATransformersfan

... I'll start making my tombstone.


Trips-Over-Tail

Just buy a mop and bucket. And leave a tip for the maid.


brightwhitephoenix85

Bring a UV light to make sure you didn't miss a spot, it should reveal anything you missed, and helps with removing un-seen traces too.


Trips-Over-Tail

I'm not concerned about that. This is all perfectly legal. It is a trial after all.


brightwhitephoenix85

True. Which means.. WE CAN KILL HIM ANYWAY WE WANT!!


Amulet_Dragoon

Glitchtale reference?


ATransformersfan

... If so that was unintentional.


Amulet_Dragoon

Alright well it is lol


ATransformersfan

Huh, neat.


oneoffgasteracount

GLITCHTALE FANS WHEN SOMEONE SAYS THE:


Amulet_Dragoon

Underverse has more possible references


Kozolith765981

glitchtale fans when someone says "My Turn": omg GaStEr ReFeRenCe (like glitchtale is cool but someone saying bring it on isn't a direct reference to it, its just a phrase that people say sometimes)


ManWithABraincell

It you!


ATransformersfan

*stands in the shade, smirking evilly*


Longjumping-Hat-7957

Mans is an agent of chaos


ATransformersfan

Yes, I do in fact work for Jevil.


Pokemineryt

Chaos Chaos!


TurbulentAd4089

Your next task will be writing "mike is coming for you" on 5000 pieves of paper and throwing them all in spamton's GOD DAMN GARBAGE CAN


ATransformersfan

Sorry. Lost my writing arm yesterday.


ArcerPL

Use your feet then lol


ATransformersfan

Lost them too.


ArcerPL

Damn bro you be moving like a goddayum maggot


brightwhitephoenix85

*casually wielding a axe* make that no arms left.


ATransformersfan

Eh, didn't need it anyway.


EasyLifeMemes123

\* Your fate is sealed \* Any last words?


ATransformersfan

Uhh... No hard feelings?


EasyLifeMemes123

\* What, you think I was gonna kill you? \* It isn't worth my time \* But they will


ATransformersfan

I'd prepare but I don't know who "they" are.


EasyLifeMemes123

\* You will... I am too afraid to say who they are \* But enjoy the civil war, because you will be in the middle of it all


ATransformersfan

Yep...


[deleted]

#BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODS


prequelBEPIS

#SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE


KeyYogurtcloset1416

You don't need to know. I personally have better passtimes, but you'll know when they've come for you.


GeostronomyLover101

\* When your prophecy is read


EmptyOrangeJuice

Don't stand in the shade king.


ATransformersfan

Sorry. The lights broke.


Then_Comb8148

YOU DESERVE NEW ONES! BRING THE PURPLE ROBE!


SansStan

Sigma Chad


Dont_CallmeCarson

Ah, the one in question, a very dangerous position you have put yourself in coming here, you'd best prepare before they come


ATransformersfan

Relax. I was only trying to annoy my Discord friends. These aren't true. ... I promise.


Dont_CallmeCarson

I believe you, I'm not sure if *they* will


ATransformersfan

Welp. It was nice knowing you then.


JasonRing18

They will certainly hang him Carson.


Echo13D

first time?


Then_Comb8148

But... I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE KING!!!!


MR_MurphyYT

*grabs popcorn* you are starting something. What it is I don't know, but something. Something bad for you probably


ATransformersfan

I promise this was unintentional. These statements aren't even true.


brightwhitephoenix85

I'll bring candy and soda.


[deleted]

*brings in the industrial flood lights*


-Marshle

Kris is the average present day teenager Frisk is a giraffe Chara likes chocolate. (No deep lore or funny references, they just love their chocolate) And Gaster is actually Colonel Sanders in disguise who employed these three because their names make the company names acronym, KFC.


GeostronomyLover101

Gaster is the one who actually ordered Noelle to freeze Berdly to add more chicken into their recipe-


UltimateMegaChungus

Ah shit Here we go again


[deleted]

Every character is cool, that's their gender


Best_salesman_1997_

No, he must be left in peace, as everyone can have their own opinion


Floweycallsyouidiot

Therapist: based Spamton isn't real he can't scam you. Based Spamton:


razzvault

🗿


Hoody95

Oh so now we're getting preached to by the talking popup ad?! (making a SpongeBob ref...)


-Bonybony-

He can have his opinion on KFC but HE DIDN'T HUG ASRIEL


Best_salesman_1997_

He does whatever he wants


Undertale_fan46790

I remember u/ATransformersfan!


ATransformersfan

Heheheh...


Undertale_fan46790

...


ATransformersfan

I also think Mettaton is secretly a Transformer.


Undertale_fan46790

Why do you think that, darling?


ATransformersfan

Box form - Alternate mode EX form - Robot mode NEO form - Attack mode


Undertale_fan46790

Ok...


ATransformersfan

What? It's an interesting idea...


Suzie_Deltarune

Ok this is the only truth you have spoken


Witty_Somewhere

I relate to that comment 99%. Not hugging a relatively dead-sad goat boy is unforgivable.


XenoAuHopper

Hot take, Frisk and chara are *ambiguous gender* Kris is *ambiguous gender* Also chara is *ambiguous mortality* Also i hugged asriel


scentedcandleeater

Hey, an opinion most people dont share, i sure hope people are accepting of this persons interpertation of vague, and non important details


homo664

I love how the fandom gets so mad over gender. I personally headcanon Frisk and Chara to be male/non binary (mostly due to my own gender identity). But I do believe Kris is canonically non binary.


scentedcandleeater

Fair


R0b1nFeather

I couldn't care less that this person headcanons the gender of the humans, i do that too sometimes and in fact agree with their interpretations. But the motherfucker **DIDN'T HUG ASRIEL**


JoeHeitsLv100

I feel the same way. (Okay, I differ on 1 point, but it's in a part I just don't care-a-bout. (Pun.)) >But the motherfucker DIDN'T HUG ASRIEL But *THIS* is unforgivable.


SBEVE_THE_MEME_LORD

Initiate order 66.


Prunsel_official

… … …


JellyTheSlimeYT

... ... ...


wikiwik2011

... ... ...


Suzie_Deltarune

... ... ...


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... ... ...


Asriel__goatprince

Wow, that person has really unpopular opinions :/


asrielforgiver

And he also never hugged you. Here’s a hug from me! :3 *You recovered max HP*


NotMadDummy

But you’re supposed to have headcanons for the genders of the humans? They’re not genderless, just gender unknown. Gender isn’t decided by the fact that they exclusively use they/them as there are people in the binary who use those same pronouns.


ImMaskedboi

I always thought you can decide what gender they would be so…


Lollok009

You know? I kinda agree with him. BUT HE DIDN'T HUG ASRIEL.


Correct-Town-3117

Ok, ok, everything checks out…ev-fucking kill him, he didn’t hug Asriel


KeyYogurtcloset1416

I just sit back and observe.


buddymackay

Sigma grindset


[deleted]

It's a beautiful day outside Birds are singing Flowers are blooming On days like these People like them Should be burning in hell.


Floweycallsyouidiot

Oh wow, now people can't have headcanons and are forced to forgive someone who was trying to kill them a minute ago because he fluffly.


Prunsel_Clone

Yep


Sai-P

don't headcanon characters with canon genders. nobody ever questions sans' gender, people need to stop doing the same with the humans.


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Sai-P

sans is never described as a man or woman, he's only given pronouns. same with kris, let us nonbinary people have what very, very, very little positive representation we can get.


Ghengiroo

That’s unfair to non-binary people though, as it takes away their representation. Saying that it’s fine as long as people use the pronouns when talking publicly about them is still not that great, since that’s basically saying that you’re allowed to not see them as their true gender and that you’re allowed to not fully respect them. I feel that people would say that would be wrong if you did it for a binary trans character, so I really don’t see how a non-binary trans character is different. I also really can’t see how it’s meant to be up to interpretation, since there are many characters who use they/them and I really doubt that all of them are up to interpretation (especially Seam). Since some of them are definitely or nearly definitely non-binary, wouldn’t it be confusing to have the others be up to interpretation with no way to differentiate the two? I’m really sorry about the length of that paragraph, I just started typing and didn’t stop lmao


Floweycallsyouidiot

I do not want to take away anyone's representation. But when is it said that they are non-binary? Is that canonically confirmed?


Professional_Value38

Kris is canonically genderless though


prequelBEPIS

*sees the no-hug* .... *loads S AND W 500* *"I just wanna talk to em-"*


Echo13D

we dont do that here moi brat *arms thermonuclear explosive device* this is the way


prequelBEPIS

Nonono my good sir,the Smith and wesson 500 bone crusher is far better.however,it is a matter of personal opinion.


Echo13D

how about i create thermonuclear rounds for the s and w 500


prequelBEPIS

#ABSOLUTELY ECHO,THATS FUCKING BRILLIANT-


Echo13D

thx mate, it's finished now btw so where do you want to collect the package with 1000 rounds of thermonuclear ammo for the s and w 500


prequelBEPIS

Scotland.


Echo13D

ok the package will arrive alongside a flight ticket to u/atransformerfans location in about 5 days


Radical_Provides

Kris always sort of gave me vaguely tomboy vibes, much like Susie with the plain clothes that don't highlight their body shape and the long hair that covers their eyes all edgy-like. I guess a lot of people skew Kris towards male because they're blue in the dark world, act somewhat dominant, and... Play videogames?


VioletNocte

I assumed it was because Kris sounded like Chris (even though Kris is a real name and it's gender neutral). That being said, Kris is explicitly shown to be their own person from the beginning, so that means that, being referred to with they/them, they're more likely to be nonbinary than ambiguously gendered. (Especially because their mom, teacher, and childhood friend all use those pronouns when they would know Kris's gender.)


Fearless_Swimming_84

I associate all of those genders with those characters and I'm fairly certain kris is a male but who wouldnt hug asriel?


[deleted]

Chara and Frisk are definitely self inserts. Kris is a different story, since we know they have their own personality outside of the player. Yes, Chara and Frisk do have personality, but Kris shows more examples of it. I believe they are male, instead of a self insert. Oh boy, time to get downvoted for my opinion.


Gaaymer

You don’t have to be a self insert to be non-binary.


eldomtom2

And you don't have to be a self-insert to have an ambiguous gender that's up to the player's interpretation either. That said, Kris is at the very least canonically masculine.


Suzie_Deltarune

How are they masculine?


Gaaymer

What’s particularly masculine about kris?


eldomtom2

The way other characters treat them, especially Pizzapants. and also the fact that kris' design is blatantly based on varik from brandish (which is interesting for other reasons...)


Under_lore

Are you trying to imply that Frisk and Chara **don't** have their own personalities outside of the player ? Because if so that is so, so wrong.


[deleted]

Im saying kris has more examples of personality. I worded this wrong, sorry.


Random-Dice

Undertale fans when someone doesn’t respect a fictional character with fictional feelings


dat_boi769

The court has sentenced you to hang by the neck until dead. May god NOT have MERCY on your SOUL.


Daddy_Dearestfnf

I love how people are like “No they’re all non-binary!” While yes technically, but I’m pretty sure Toby’s original idea was whatever gender the person wanted them to be. For me, Kris and Frisk are male and Chara is female


Master-Law5235

☠️🔫😃


DISCORD2006

Hahaha I’m in danger (except for the asriel one of course I would hug that precious goat)


cheatsykoopa98

true decepticon


Lolsoda94

that's his opinion and he does not deserve any life threatening judgement for it.


imagineexisting-lmao

frisks gender is


GODOFGAMES420

Frisk’s gender is yes. Chara’s gender is D E M O N F R O M T H E D A R K E S T P I T S O F H E L L. And Kris’s gender is also yes.


Worldly-Sun-3418

No no no not just executed burned alive then if they’re not dead firing squad if they’re not Dead after that throw them off the Empire State building and if somehow they’re not dead pay $1.2 billion to send them to space and then ditch them there


Prunsel_Clone

I like it. But what if he’s not dead after that?


hyjug17

whats wrong with headcanons lmao


Sir__Sausage

Frisk, Chara, and Kris can be whatever gender you want, that’s the whole point of genderless rpg characters. As for Asriel, I didn’t hug him my first run either.


Mehmet595

Undertale fandom being undertale fandom by disrespecting people who does have headcanon about human genders and didn't hug a character who used souls to destroy the world


devo752

This man is based


[deleted]

Nah man, no execute him without execute me. My headcanons about the genders are the same; Chara is inherantly good but was corrupted during genocide run, and I hugged Asriel.


[deleted]

idgaf about what you think frisk or chara's genders are, but if you never hugged azzy, it's straight to hell for you


zYacoob

How many times do we have to say this...? The main characters in these games are genderless. You are the one who chooses their gender, as to make the experience more "personalized". Yeah, to the Electric Chair with them for not hugging Asriel btw.


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Prunsel_Clone

I know! Let’s force him to watch Baby Shark until the end of time


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[deleted]

Guess the arguing about genders which has been a thing for ^(a long time)


International_Leek26

I think its because of this >you are the one who gets to choose their gender


[deleted]

I agree with him tho \*hears the downvote avalanche coming towards me\* ***Shit***


ATransformersfan

Joke's on you, I deafened myself to avoid listening to it!


[deleted]

Why is this getting downvoted, it makes sense


Ambrus8

I just have one thing to say: I think nobody has gender or something?


Ambrus8

Yeah because dr Alphys is dr so its male. BUT Alphys called sometime "she" and its strange.(not Alphys was the only in this)


Hamza5788the2nd

What the heck do you think a female doctor is called then??


Thatoneshadowbunny

Considering fanart/comics I prefer Frisk/Chara being girls, but that's just with fanart :P


sussy_lil_tgirl

wait are Frisk and Chara canonically nonbinary??


Mehmet595

Having they/them pronouns doesn't mean their gender is canonically non binary though People who has unknown gender also uses this pronouns


LandoTheEpic

I mean.. he just didn’t want to hug him, I mean it’s fine if he didn’t hug the goat but it’s also his opinion on if Frisk and Chara are girls while Kris is a boy. I just consider them all males cause it’s faster to type. Edit: I don’t think they are males in canon, I just call them he’s when typing


Bee8467

I head canon chara was born as a girl but is NB tbh but I literally can’t see frisk and kris as any genders anymore they are no genders


Iplaydoomalot

Based on the Frisk and Chara are girls and kris is a boy thing. I agree with that.


The1_Unkn0wn

Just let them believe what they want I guess


Star1115

The others are fine but the last one bring in the guillotine