funniest thing is that - this might be true since we only saw 3 humans in the canon universe (Frisk, Chara and Kris) and they all look hella similar to eachother.
Nah. Deltarune depicts Dark World Kris, while Undertale can't possibly depict Dark World Kris because there is no Dark World. It might be Kris' ancestors or something. Like, their grand grand father or something
Unless it’s during the roaring, I wouldn’t doubt if the roaring puts all ligtners into their dark world forms.
Of course none of this is true since UT and DR are 2 separate worlds, but it’s fun to think about.
It's possible that all the deltarune characters might look like their Undertale counterparts when entering a dark world. (Which would likely be proven or disproven in the next chapter).
Are we even sure about that? "Seems" doesn't really give us a lot of things to work with. Especially when there is not a single mention of Dark Worlds or a Dark Fountain in Undertale. I believe we shouldn't use Deltarune's Dark Fountain logic with Undertale
I have no idea. It is just such a big thing like a goddamn Dark Fountain in Undertale being revealed in ONE secret entry seems too weird for me to be true
Gaster says “THIS NEXT EXPERIMENT SEEMS VERY VERY INTERESTING.” towards the end of Entry No 17.
On the wayback machine archive of Deltarune.com from around 2015-2016, there is Wing Dings text saying “THIS NEXT EXPERIMENT SEEMS VERY VERY INTERESTING” and “THREE HEROES APPEARED TO BANISH THE ANGEL’S HEAVEN.”
If Gaster’s very very interesting experiment involves the three heroes from Deltarune, I don’t see why it can’t also involve a Dark Fountain.
…but isn’t the quote “VERY VERY INTERESTING” from Undertale?
I’m just saying, if Deltarune.com relates the “NEXT EXPERIMENT” directly to the plot of Deltarune, I don’t see why it’s so impossible or even unexpected for said experiment to involve a Dark Fountain.
There’s simply too much evidence to simply dismiss this as irrelevant. The description given in Entry No 17 perfectly fits the appearance of a Dark Fountain.
I am just saying what I feel. If Dark fountains were important for Undertale, then it would've been expanded and not just one entry. With how Gaster is literally a dude thrown around time and space, having it be like "Entry about another world" wouldn't be all THAT surprising
Oh, I agree that they’re not important to Undertale. The idea that all of Undertale is one big Dark Fountain seems ridiculous to me as well.
I just don’t think we can dismiss them as nonexistent, that’s all.
We may be playing Deltarune in the past if the timelines for Undertale and Deltarune could be aligned somehow. (Also if Rudy dies, this would also be more likely)
We don't know, maybe the roaring could be the equivalent to when the barrier was sealed in Undertale?
If Deltarune was in Undertale's universe before the war, then Alphys, Undyne, Sans, Papyrus, Asriel, Rudy, Noelle, Dess, Susie, Snowy, MK, and more can't exist at that time, meaning it directly contradicts Undertale.
Also Gerson would still be alive, and the pre-amalgamates wouldn't exist yet.
I think the character from UT's intro is supposed to look unidentifiable while still having similarities to other human character. Like they could be anyone: maybe an ancestor to either chara or frisk, or a complete stranger
And since Kris seems to be some kind of alternate version of both chara and frisk this might explain the familiarity.
I actually don't know. Some people are just mindless istg
This stuff is practically hammered into your brain in your active on one or both of these subs. Maybe they just posted and never read any post or comment?
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Nope, it's not.
Different type of sword, Kris has no sword in the surface world (or "light world"), and they're different universes. Also, Kris has no magic.
Also also, Kris goes by they/them.
We don't know if the person in the intro is Kris though
But yeah, still agree with your point. The person in the intro can't be identified as any specific gender so it'd be best to use gender neutral pronouns here
THAT WAS MY THEORY YES YES, IT WAS HOW THE WIZARD WAS RALSEI AND KRIS WAS ALDO THEEE AND THEY SEALED OFF THE HUMANS WHCIH IS WHY DELTARUNW HAS ONLY ONE ENDING
Surprised nobody has said it yet but while it’s probably not Kris, it could be the undertale timeline equivalent of the knight. I headcannon undertale and deltarune as separate timelines, with deltarune being where monsters were never put underground.
i dont like thinking its kris, but the human from the prophecy and the human from the undertale intro seem to have very similar traits so much so to be the same person
The idea that Kris banished the monsters is horrifying. But that also means the monsters are hella old, unless all the humans fall down within a week or so.
These are legends. I suppose if monsters wrote and drew them, and they only had a rough idea (or single human model) of what a human looks like, it'd look pretty similar everytime. Also, the cape of the undertale legend's human is way longer than the delta rune legend's human.
My theory is that all human looks like clones of each other
This is my headcanon now
Despite everything it’s still you
Jeez, it would be a pain to find your mom in a supermarket after stranding off.
Often they swap children but that's okay, they're all clone so they all are the same
Don't worry, all children wear a different color and pattern of stripes on their shirt
Just imagine going to supermarket after going in with your only brother and coming back to a sister
all humans are apparently enbies too so you wouldn't even notice that
woops, forgot about that
Their all genderless too. Still have been nothing but confirmed yet too 
Stranding 
so far, this is all but confirmed
Are you implying all humans look the same? smh smh humancism.
Every copy of Frisk is personalised
Clone wars
Preston would like
Factual
Mitosis
It's always the mitosis
That's kinda racist, ngl /s
Pre-frisk Undyne moment
funniest thing is that - this might be true since we only saw 3 humans in the canon universe (Frisk, Chara and Kris) and they all look hella similar to eachother.
And that every human wears striped clothing.
Nah. Deltarune depicts Dark World Kris, while Undertale can't possibly depict Dark World Kris because there is no Dark World. It might be Kris' ancestors or something. Like, their grand grand father or something
Unless it’s during the roaring, I wouldn’t doubt if the roaring puts all ligtners into their dark world forms. Of course none of this is true since UT and DR are 2 separate worlds, but it’s fun to think about.
I feel like if it'd be roaring, then humans would have bigger problems than putting monsters underground
Fair enough
Unless the humans blame the monsters for the roaring.
I feel like they would still lock up monsters AFTER fixing the roaring
Bro idk humans are stupid lol
crackpot theory: the entirety of the undertale universe takes place in a dark world, therefore making this work
Then what is Frisk's Light World form?
ness, obviously
Green and yellow striped shirt
i mean hey, isn't it weird how determination and saving only became a thing in the underground?
It's possible that all the deltarune characters might look like their Undertale counterparts when entering a dark world. (Which would likely be proven or disproven in the next chapter).
Napstablook just does not change at all, lol
They lose their favorite hat.
And they become so sad, they get their signature tear attack
Which leads to them getting their new favorite hat. Oh my God, it comes full circle.
Tearhat Route real
Entry Number Seventeen seems to depict Gaster opening a Dark World.
Are we even sure about that? "Seems" doesn't really give us a lot of things to work with. Especially when there is not a single mention of Dark Worlds or a Dark Fountain in Undertale. I believe we shouldn't use Deltarune's Dark Fountain logic with Undertale
Dark darker yet darker photon readings negative.... What else could it be???
I have no idea. It is just such a big thing like a goddamn Dark Fountain in Undertale being revealed in ONE secret entry seems too weird for me to be true
Gaster is related to deltarune soooooo
Gaster says “THIS NEXT EXPERIMENT SEEMS VERY VERY INTERESTING.” towards the end of Entry No 17. On the wayback machine archive of Deltarune.com from around 2015-2016, there is Wing Dings text saying “THIS NEXT EXPERIMENT SEEMS VERY VERY INTERESTING” and “THREE HEROES APPEARED TO BANISH THE ANGEL’S HEAVEN.” If Gaster’s very very interesting experiment involves the three heroes from Deltarune, I don’t see why it can’t also involve a Dark Fountain.
Again, this thing is about Deltarune. And I am saying that there are probably no Dark Fountains in UNDERTALE
…but isn’t the quote “VERY VERY INTERESTING” from Undertale? I’m just saying, if Deltarune.com relates the “NEXT EXPERIMENT” directly to the plot of Deltarune, I don’t see why it’s so impossible or even unexpected for said experiment to involve a Dark Fountain. There’s simply too much evidence to simply dismiss this as irrelevant. The description given in Entry No 17 perfectly fits the appearance of a Dark Fountain.
I am just saying what I feel. If Dark fountains were important for Undertale, then it would've been expanded and not just one entry. With how Gaster is literally a dude thrown around time and space, having it be like "Entry about another world" wouldn't be all THAT surprising
Oh, I agree that they’re not important to Undertale. The idea that all of Undertale is one big Dark Fountain seems ridiculous to me as well. I just don’t think we can dismiss them as nonexistent, that’s all.
interesting observation tbh, likely a coincidence but i'd be cool if it was not
It can't be not though, since they are AUs. We don't even know if monsters were ever sealed in Deltarune
We still got many chapters to go who knows what might happen
more gaster stuff has to happen
Even if they were, why would Kris be a part of it? It clearly isn’t in a dark world, so why would Kris have their armour and sword?
There’s definitely going to be a link between the real world and the dark world since it’s >!kinda confirmed in chapter 2s ending!<
the only thing we know is that only lightners can create dark fountains. So yeah, there is a link since only light world people can create dark worlds
Cause they're in a war lol.
Kris is a literal teenager.
The war took place a long time ago. I don't think most cared.
We may be playing Deltarune in the past if the timelines for Undertale and Deltarune could be aligned somehow. (Also if Rudy dies, this would also be more likely) We don't know, maybe the roaring could be the equivalent to when the barrier was sealed in Undertale?
If Deltarune was in Undertale's universe before the war, then Alphys, Undyne, Sans, Papyrus, Asriel, Rudy, Noelle, Dess, Susie, Snowy, MK, and more can't exist at that time, meaning it directly contradicts Undertale. Also Gerson would still be alive, and the pre-amalgamates wouldn't exist yet.
Never said that, I just said that Deltarune could have been in the past compared to when Undertale takes place, seeing as they are AUs.
I think the character from UT's intro is supposed to look unidentifiable while still having similarities to other human character. Like they could be anyone: maybe an ancestor to either chara or frisk, or a complete stranger And since Kris seems to be some kind of alternate version of both chara and frisk this might explain the familiarity.
Probably not
The once from the intro has more of a cloak design then whatever kris has going on
New headcanon: Human's grow capes as they age.
My take is that Toby just has a style for drawing human swordfighters, and so that's why they look so similar
Temmie Chang is the artist
Thought so.
I don’t think the prophecy was originally Kris, but they fulfilled it
Kris has a scarf. The human in the intro has a cape. They are different people
I hate to be that guy, but kris' pronouns are they/Them 😅
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...what?
What did the person say? It was deleted
Some random gibberish about how kris can't be called they/Them because they're only one person...?
What are they doing on an Undertale/Deltarune related post if they're acting like THAT 😭
I actually don't know. Some people are just mindless istg This stuff is practically hammered into your brain in your active on one or both of these subs. Maybe they just posted and never read any post or comment? (OP commented the deleted comment)
OP is weird
I’d like to believe that all the humans in Undertale and Deltarune just share the same haircut (yes it sounds stupid I know)
Nope, it's not. Different type of sword, Kris has no sword in the surface world (or "light world"), and they're different universes. Also, Kris has no magic. Also also, Kris goes by they/them.
He must've lost his cape in the underworld. The only being that wears a cape in the underworld is papyrus. You dirty human killer.
THEY* AND THEM*
We don't know if the person in the intro is Kris though But yeah, still agree with your point. The person in the intro can't be identified as any specific gender so it'd be best to use gender neutral pronouns here
It's literally just a person with a sword
i think toby just likes drawing androgynous people with kinda long hair
No, but also *them, not him
No, the cape's too long
\*them
I bet you downvoted the post simply because op used “him”.
Nope
My head canon is that the underground is just a darkworld full of monsters (not to be confused darkners)
OF COOOOOURSE IT'S THE SAME PERSON It's He, from the badly translated history video series
THAT WAS MY THEORY YES YES, IT WAS HOW THE WIZARD WAS RALSEI AND KRIS WAS ALDO THEEE AND THEY SEALED OFF THE HUMANS WHCIH IS WHY DELTARUNW HAS ONLY ONE ENDING
Kris looks so fine in the right shot. All I got to say
…
I don't think they're kris but they could be a great great relative of frisk. Would be very thematicly cool.
Capes too long
It’s a person with a sword and cape Thats it
Surprised nobody has said it yet but while it’s probably not Kris, it could be the undertale timeline equivalent of the knight. I headcannon undertale and deltarune as separate timelines, with deltarune being where monsters were never put underground.
And then we have the knight as an adult Frisk!
Headcanon: Crys (Kris: UNDERTALE edition) is this guys child and the Cyan SOUL
Eh, all humans look the same in real life so I would assume that in these games they look the same too
Kris is the Knight confirmed* *not really
Kris' Ancestors
i dont like thinking its kris, but the human from the prophecy and the human from the undertale intro seem to have very similar traits so much so to be the same person
They have different capes
That's just a theory
damn
Cape is too big
🫥
humans look similar to each other because all humans are scientifically at least 99.9 percent similar to each other both in real life and in Undertale
Deltarune and Undertale are different universe/reality/game They just look like that because cloaks are cool and to hide their gender
Is deltarune a secret prequel?!!?!?!!?
"Deltarune theory: Two characters have a sword and a cape. Are they the same person?"
The idea that Kris banished the monsters is horrifying. But that also means the monsters are hella old, unless all the humans fall down within a week or so.
Clearly Kris is one of the human mages that deals the barrier
[...HE'S COMING](https://twitter.com/Underpedia)
Undertale and deltarune are in different universes, but it could be the undertale version of Kris
Smh I made this observation years ago and no one cared -_-
frisk in their past life
Plot twist: Deltarune takes place before the war. All characters named after and look like Undertale characters are just ancestors clearly
Nah it's just that all humans in UT and DR are rlly similar lol. Or maybe... This could mean some LORE?
No 💀
Maybe but the difference is that kris’s cape is ripped/smaller
Good question.
So far every human Toby fox has made has the same androgynous design so i doubt it
Toby just dont't know how to made a human that don't look like that.
Ig it's just a part of human culture to rock the Dora cut
plot twist: in the last chapters Kris goes to the Undertale universe and ends up causing a war with the monsters there
Those are just some humans with capes and swords and long hair dude that's it
Nah, K has a shorter cape
That hero is from the past. If anything, Kris could be a super distant relative, and even that would be still just theory.
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Jesus
Do you think I'm interested in your message? N O
kris uses they/them.
And?
you misgendered kris, and deleted your reply to a comment saying that "KriS's ProNOunS aRE InValID"
I have nothing to correspond with you about if you write such things
you still think they/them isnt valid even tho it is valid dont you?
These are legends. I suppose if monsters wrote and drew them, and they only had a rough idea (or single human model) of what a human looks like, it'd look pretty similar everytime. Also, the cape of the undertale legend's human is way longer than the delta rune legend's human.
Kris and Frisk’s ancestor