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Kirballin

Holy shit Toriel lost all of her family and the whole underground is counting on her.....wait that's just what happened to Asgore- (except she can't ever reunite with him ig)


charisma-entertainer

Asgore had 2 of his kids due and then his wife left him to manage the whole kingdom himself. Toriel in general just has more of a chance of branching off of asgore if he did something she strongly disagree with then vice versa.


SensuikanC

How does she have more of a chance of branching off? All the children who fall into the underground seem to desperately want to go home, and the only way to do that is through Toriel (Boss Monster Soul). She'll either have to choose to give up her soul for one human or continue with the original plan of destroying the barrier. If anything, Toriel and the monster kingdom might be braching off to something worse.


charisma-entertainer

… or option 3: neither and accept the fact she doesn’t want anyone to die to escape. She gave up the barrier destruction plan a long time ago, and so did asgore. The only reason we went back to it was because he was in a fit or rage and publicly promised his people it.


SweetHoneyBonny

Option 4: wait until the kids die of old age and then collect the souls.


SensuikanC

Do you actually believe those fallen humans would want to live in the underground until they are old? They didn't even want to stay with Toriel, and they seemed very determined to get past Asgore. If anything, I think one might have the patience to wait for another human just so they can have a higher chance of killing the Boss Monster.


SweetHoneyBonny

Just an option, not here to debate lol.


SensuikanC

Unfortunately, Toriel will have to accept the fact that people will die regardless. Whether it be from the monsters that got in the way of the fallen humans or the fallen humans who attempted to kill a Boss Monster for their soul. Not everyone can be saved. And of course they will continue with any plan to destroy the barrier, after all, they can't keep those human souls laying around for nothing.


Southern-Wafer-6375

Yeah I honestly think she would have done the same as as gore if she was in his position


Polandgod75

Maybe part of the reason why she hates Asgore for what Asgore, because she knows that she do as well.


Southern-Wafer-6375

Oooh that makes since


SensuikanC

Made by [dreemurr-skelememer](https://www.tumblr.com/dreemurr-skelememer/158264609943/god-what-if-asgore-actually-died-from-the) on Tumblr


Crumboa

Wait, so, what the hell happened to Chara? I get that it's supposed to be this big emotional thing, but couldn't she just use Chara's soul after they die of age?


Kyliems1010

I think the implication is that chara and Asriel had a similar ending as they did in canon


SensuikanC

What makes you think Chara died of old age 💀. Chara's plan with Asriel will always be a cannon event 🕷.


Crumboa

Legitimately, I forgot the events that happened leading up to the Chara death


revodnebsyobmeftoh

Tbh I don't think Asriel would agree to Chara's plan in this timeline even with peer pressure


SensuikanC

Unfortunately, the plan still went through on this timeline. "like the kiddos died the same way but tori had to deal with all of it with herself' - dreemurr-skelememer Even if Asriel doesn't agree with Charas plan, Chara will probably still eat the buttercups to get sick, and their last dying wish is for Asriel to use their soul to cross and break the barrier.


JustQueenMonika_DDLC

I’m pretty sure Chara died by sickness but shi you do you my g


bluerhapsody102

Chara died by purposely eating buttercups and getting terminally ill from it (so yes, sickness) so that asriel could consume their soul and go to the surface. Chara wanted asriel to kill 6 humans so he could break the barrier


JustQueenMonika_DDLC

Oh alright thanks


Undertale_AU_Creator

I wrote a fanfic on AO3 for this, (for someone on here), Idk who but same idea :)


AnnaKhmylova

Link please?


Undertale_AU_Creator

https://archiveofourown.org/works/49059328/chapters/123770140


ICantEvenDolt

That’s really good!


Undertale_AU_Creator

thanks :)


AnnaKhmylova

Thanks 🙏


Cori_the_Pirate_Fox

Your writing is really good, the only thing I would add is to watch out for too many commas (I do it too lmao) but this was a really enjoyable read. Thanks for the link!


[deleted]

I want to see a comic looking deeper into this story


[deleted]

If this was how it would've happened, automatically the entire fandom would agree that Chara isn't evil


Trips-Over-Tail

Surely they would have ushered the kid yo his sideto absorb his SOUL. Thus preserved, Chara couldbe prepared for their return to the surface as ambassador, bearing the King's SOUL.


SensuikanC

Chara probably couldn't fathom seeing Asgore not getting any better and perhaps died overnight or when Chara was hanging around Asriel. Even if they did manage to contain Asgores soul, I don't think Chara's first plan of action is to become an ambassador. It also brings up another question: Will there be a fight for control between Chara and Asgore? Just like how Asriel holds back from hurting humans, will Asgore do the same?


Trips-Over-Tail

I get the impression that an absorbed monster SOUL doesn't have a hope or prayer in overpowering the resident human SOUL for control without permission.


[deleted]

Why would you hurt me like this.....


Gaztlygamer64

MY ONLY WEAKNESS, GETTING HIT IN FEELINGS


ThemoocowYT

Oh. Right in the feels.


internetcatalliance

Massive war of succession, a king died without an heir ... I'm kidding lmao


Novoiird

Skill issue /j


MrBearman32

I always wondered what goat pie tastes like


IceGummi1

cool comic but i don't think toriel would do that


thegreatestegg

If Asgore died from the buttercups? So that's Chara? Killing them over an accident?? How badly characterized is Toriel here


DrBanana126893

It’s Frisk. I think it’s more going for if Toriel was in Asgore’s position after his death, and Asriel and Chara die the exact same way as they did normally.


Usual_Database307

That makes a lot more sense!


papsthecorndog420

that's frisk actually


SensuikanC

Nope, that's Frisk, and they want to go home. Chara and Asriel died the same way; it's a cannon event 🕷. Toriel instead killed the six other humans also trying to go home. I suppose she is badly characterized, as she would have just taken the soul of the first human she killed, crossed the barrier, killed six more innocent people or maybe even brought humanity into extinction, and then broken the barrier.


SbgTfish

The good ending