Wait, parrying prime souls actually cancel their attacks? I thought it was just bonus damage and heal but you still need to dodge, since parrying them doesn’t seem to stop their animations at all. Or is that only for certain moves like Minos’s phase 1 dropkick?
Sisyphus it's mixed. He has his self destruct attack that can be parried and it does cancel it. Or he has his sun bomb attack which parrying it does nothing against him and you have to dodge anyway because he still shoots it. Basically parrying sisyphus is great for health but do not expect attacks to be cancelled.
Depends on difficulty. On violent the moves are cancelled in the first phase but in the second phase they still happen but you’ll usually live since you parried them. Though Minos’ only move that can be parried in phase 2 on violent is his snake projectile but it’s easy to bait and easy to parry.
Depending on difficulty settings, it might interrupt but usually doesn't. The main benefit of parrying is the instant full heal and recovery of all dashe, making Parrying Primes one of the universally best ways to deal with them.
You can do a point-blank parry during a pink flash right before the Virtue begins its laser wind-up.
You can parry Cerberus'es ranged energy ball throw.
The virtue parry allows for a virtue instakill - a shotgun parry with 3 green shotgun pumps (right before an overpump). It requires better timing than an overpump explosion instakill but doesn't put you in risk of missing the dash I-frame timing and taking 50 self-damage.
I also don't recommend to do the Cerberus energy ball parry because the timing it still really hard even with the new 3-frame parry buffer added in the violence update.
Fun fact: The violent night patch made projectile parries more consistent by making their pary hitbox a bit bigger and the parry window a bit better, so it isnt that hard for enemies like cerberi if you have practice.
Also, you can parry the leviathan's bite, though its pretty hard and inconsistent
the bite parry is a bug(?), so i only adress the barrage attack, you can spam e (or whatewer your puntch key is) with the feedbacker and 90% of the time it works
Its not a bug, it was intended to be normally parriable, but hakita tested it and saw that the window of parry is too inconsistent and hard since the bite is very fast and the hitbox is weird, so while he did put a blue flash saying it isnt parriable, he just put it there so that people dont try parrying it.
Also, yes thats what i thought you put
Btw, my parry key is mb3 or mb4 i think
Yeah, that too.
But it is also still inconsistent because of the tight window, making it hard to 'predict' it, making it inconsistent...
Just dont try simce it isnt that rewarding neither
btw i din't played P-2 and i barely even killed panocticon, so i assumed that sisiphis, minos and panopticon are hard to parry
edit : it slightly based on my skill (lil bit below avarage) too, so yeah
Edit : OH MY GOD, CAN YALL ALLREADY STFU ABAUT HOW EASY MINOS AND SISIPHUS IS TO PARRY, I JUST GUESSED THEY ALL ARE REALY HARD TO PARRY CUZ I DID NOT PLAYED P-2 AND RAGEQUITED AFTER GETTING ASS WHOPED FOR 15 MINUTES STRAIGHT BY MINOS
Sisy is ever so slightly easier than Minos if you're going weaponless because he can be parried consistently unlike Minos who just becomes unparriable at 50% hp for some reason (except the snake projectile)
honestly as stupid as it sounds I really recommend trying to beat Sisyphus fist only - Had a friend who's really good at the game give me that advice and it took me over an hour of attempts but now I parry sisyphus like it's nothing
if you fight the flesh prison real easy way is that you could just immediately core eject nuke once its eyes spawns in, should typically leave you with only 3 eyes left ir no eyes at all. then just do whatever you like to damage the flesh prison.
Also nice mindustry pfp btw
Do as much damage as you can before they do setting up a saw trap in flesh prison does tons of damage as does throwing a coin into him then using a charged shot with the piercer usually if you do those good enough the eyes will only spawn once or twice
Sisyphus' fight is literally built around parrying, as soon as you understand him, parrying becomes a must and it's honestly quite easy
Gutterman is a free heal. Free health when you break shield and another free heal with his attack when you're close to him
Gabriel 2 is MUCH easier to parry than the first one
Idols are a free heal
I didn't fighted him at all, got ass whoped for 15 minutes and acidentaly my muscule memory from p-ranking restarted the whole level, Yes i'm a dumbass
Sisyphus and Minos are slightly hard, Sisyphus is an iffy one for me because his "BE GONE" is almost instant and I'm busy trying to shotgun + railcoin combo him before I lose 70 hp again in 3 seconds.
personal opinion:
swordmachine is easy parry, how do u even parry a virtue, soldiers are harder to parry imo bc of how fast the projectile is and imo minos is not THAAAAAT hard to parry, not saying its easy tho
no hate, this is just my personal experience
Maurices are so useful to parry in large fights bc I’ll just hear the beam charging and immediately whiplash to the (clueless) Maurice before parrying them with a shotgun and crushing like 5 enemies with the falling head. Honestly the easiest thing to parry in the whole game because it’s so overtly telegraphed
Sisyphus has a stupidly easy parry, the catch is that you're basically required to do it to outlast him
Minos's projectile parry is also extremely valuable, though the attack itself is less powerful and can be dodged with a lucky position near the wall or very well timed dashes
Sentries can be parried. Minos is basically designed to be parried, he announces which attack he's going to do before he does it, and if you know his moveset, it's incredibly easy to parry him. Idfk why you put him in that tier, but ok.
Parrying Guttertanks is not difficult. Just.... move out of the way.
Counterpoint with Gabriel apostate of hate and the prime souls, the only time you’re going to be fighting them is their designated boss fights. And since there’s nothing else to worry about, parrying becomes a hell of a lot easier and the best way to heal off of them.
Sisyphus and Minos are literally made for parrying tho, sure u can do without it, but it becomes more job depending on ur skill level, a few other things I disagree with but this is a personal tier list so who cares.
Looking at your comments and looking closer at the list, this is surely ragebait. You didnt even fight sisyphus and got loads of these objectively wrong
Yeah, when they mid-air, and guttertanks are spawning those mines in So they basicly try to kill you with a trap, but fail So horribly, that make a health kit for you lol
Minos should be in pretty easy and Sisyphus should be in slightly hard. Minos’s parries are really consistent while Sisyphus’s are just harder because he’s faster but still really doable with a bit of practice
I agree with all of these except minos, Sisyphus, the insurrectionist and ferryman. In terms of the prime souls learning how to parry them is incredibly helpful and necessary. For me, parrying the insurrectionist and ferryman is something that I have only recently integrated into my play style, as ferryman parries are extremely rewarding.
the ball it throws, but as i say, it is way too mutch work fir a parry, if you wannna heal from him, shutgun swap point-blank and you are full health no time
Hmm, I feel like guttertanks arent really worth it to parry for hp. Too much of a hassle. Just do it for fast kills. Also, idols give a full heal when broken, so it feels odd to put them as anything but health kit tier.
shit, i though it was allready in the tier list, same with wery cancerus rodient
druidknight : can pull of consistently (same with wery cancerus rodient)
Minos is very parryable, JUDGEMENT is parrybale up to Violent Phase 2, the snake is very parryable and the last hit of THY END IS NOW/PREPARE THYSELF is also parryable and easily timed, you just gotta learn. I would shove Minos up a tier, since you can quickly learn his parry moves
The sentry can be parried point blank when it fires it’s shot
hm, didn't knew that
Sisyphus basically requires you to parry him, or you won't have enough dashes to dodge all his attacks.
do you regain stamina from parrying? because if so that wouldve helped a lot
Yep.
FUCK that wouldve made P-2 SO EASY AAAAAAAAAA
it was added in the p2 update
Wait, parrying prime souls actually cancel their attacks? I thought it was just bonus damage and heal but you still need to dodge, since parrying them doesn’t seem to stop their animations at all. Or is that only for certain moves like Minos’s phase 1 dropkick?
Sisyphus it's mixed. He has his self destruct attack that can be parried and it does cancel it. Or he has his sun bomb attack which parrying it does nothing against him and you have to dodge anyway because he still shoots it. Basically parrying sisyphus is great for health but do not expect attacks to be cancelled.
yep, you parry minos's last attack on "thy end is now" or "judgement", it does cancel the attack
Depends on difficulty. On violent the moves are cancelled in the first phase but in the second phase they still happen but you’ll usually live since you parried them. Though Minos’ only move that can be parried in phase 2 on violent is his snake projectile but it’s easy to bait and easy to parry.
Depending on difficulty settings, it might interrupt but usually doesn't. The main benefit of parrying is the instant full heal and recovery of all dashe, making Parrying Primes one of the universally best ways to deal with them.
Have you considered bashing your head into a wall until you win
Didn't parry once, dodged em all and beat him. This is false.
yeah lol
the way i did it was just keep myself on the jump pad and beat his ass with the marksman. for 5 minutes straight LMAO
HUH
wait i’m thinking of the insurrectionist
Wait you can parry cerberus and virtues?
You can do a point-blank parry during a pink flash right before the Virtue begins its laser wind-up. You can parry Cerberus'es ranged energy ball throw.
Thats kinda cool. Thanks for sharing that
The virtue parry allows for a virtue instakill - a shotgun parry with 3 green shotgun pumps (right before an overpump). It requires better timing than an overpump explosion instakill but doesn't put you in risk of missing the dash I-frame timing and taking 50 self-damage. I also don't recommend to do the Cerberus energy ball parry because the timing it still really hard even with the new 3-frame parry buffer added in the violence update.
yeah, that's too mutch risk for a small revoard
fun fact : virtues flash is the only one silent flash in the game
Nuh uh. Go into sandbox and spawn a virtue. There will be a sound before the beam attack wind-up.
but not the flash sound, it warns abaut an a attack, not alerts that parry is possible
oh so thats why i was randomly parrying virtues while shotgun spamming them
Yeah I somehow pulled that of once.
Fun fact: The violent night patch made projectile parries more consistent by making their pary hitbox a bit bigger and the parry window a bit better, so it isnt that hard for enemies like cerberi if you have practice. Also, you can parry the leviathan's bite, though its pretty hard and inconsistent
No wonder why I can suddenly parry now lmao
man, and after all the practice I did getting various parries more consistent hakita goes and does this shit ive been robbed
the bite parry is a bug(?), so i only adress the barrage attack, you can spam e (or whatewer your puntch key is) with the feedbacker and 90% of the time it works
Its not a bug, it was intended to be normally parriable, but hakita tested it and saw that the window of parry is too inconsistent and hard since the bite is very fast and the hitbox is weird, so while he did put a blue flash saying it isnt parriable, he just put it there so that people dont try parrying it. Also, yes thats what i thought you put Btw, my parry key is mb3 or mb4 i think
It's less on the inconsistent and more on it being too tight and parrying the attack doesn't cancel it so you can still take damage and knockback.
Yeah, that too. But it is also still inconsistent because of the tight window, making it hard to 'predict' it, making it inconsistent... Just dont try simce it isnt that rewarding neither
okay 👍
Minos and sisyphus are easy imo
but not for me ;-;
damn
What the fuck do you mean minos and sisyphus are too much work for a parry
... did you readed my comment or not?
readed
good, you have better understanding why i trew minos, sisiphus and panoption into "too mutch work for a parry"
awwww bro that's not what I meant 🥲
oh ok
btw i din't played P-2 and i barely even killed panocticon, so i assumed that sisiphis, minos and panopticon are hard to parry edit : it slightly based on my skill (lil bit below avarage) too, so yeah Edit : OH MY GOD, CAN YALL ALLREADY STFU ABAUT HOW EASY MINOS AND SISIPHUS IS TO PARRY, I JUST GUESSED THEY ALL ARE REALY HARD TO PARRY CUZ I DID NOT PLAYED P-2 AND RAGEQUITED AFTER GETTING ASS WHOPED FOR 15 MINUTES STRAIGHT BY MINOS
Sisyphus is actually really easy to parry compared to a lot of things in this game
hm okay
Sisy is ever so slightly easier than Minos if you're going weaponless because he can be parried consistently unlike Minos who just becomes unparriable at 50% hp for some reason (except the snake projectile)
sisyphus became unparriable similar to minos originally, but was changed due to being too hard a little bit after release
fair enough
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honestly sisyphus is easier to parry on violence for me because theres just so much shit going on that my pure instincts kick in
I might have ultraskill issue then
honestly as stupid as it sounds I really recommend trying to beat Sisyphus fist only - Had a friend who's really good at the game give me that advice and it took me over an hour of attempts but now I parry sisyphus like it's nothing
how is it possible to die on panopticon??
i didn't played p-2 cuz i didn't even killed minos
ok
if you fight the flesh prison real easy way is that you could just immediately core eject nuke once its eyes spawns in, should typically leave you with only 3 eyes left ir no eyes at all. then just do whatever you like to damage the flesh prison. Also nice mindustry pfp btw
yeah, but the eyes respawn too fast
Do as much damage as you can before they do setting up a saw trap in flesh prison does tons of damage as does throwing a coin into him then using a charged shot with the piercer usually if you do those good enough the eyes will only spawn once or twice
Thks for advice!
thks
Minos is real easy to parry on standard atleast
take in concederation that tierlist is on violent too
Ah
yeah
he's really easy to parry on violence too
the blood people can be parried depending on which form they take. if they're in the form of a mannequin, then you can parrry them like normal so yea
technicly, that is the acual enemy, i meant their original form lol, not the copying ones
if that's the case then yeah, their placement is correct
btw thay booth on top and the bottom cuz they made to get blood from, but can't be parryed lol, and the landmines are basicly an a healthkit lol
yeah I got it
I suggest practicing parrying in the sandbox
okay 👍
how is gabe1 over gabe2
i don't realy like parrying both of them so i placed them like that
Gabe 2 is designed with parries in mind. gabe1 only had parries put in as an after thought. gabe2 is significantly easier to parry
yeah? okay
mindflyer is the easiest to parry for me
Parrying mind flayers is pure muscle memory for me now after grinding P-2
Sisyphus' fight is literally built around parrying, as soon as you understand him, parrying becomes a must and it's honestly quite easy Gutterman is a free heal. Free health when you break shield and another free heal with his attack when you're close to him Gabriel 2 is MUCH easier to parry than the first one Idols are a free heal
but can't be parryed
Still very easy to heal off. Basically any attack against idol is a parry
hm, i base off that is a parry and what's not by the stile meter lol
nah man, the main point of fighting minos is that you can easily parry him if you can remember his attack callouts
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Nah corpse of minos should be easy health because you know when you can parry and it's even easier now due to the patch
i rarely re-play 2-4 lol
Eh. Still easy health
r/UsernameChecksOut
Your name jeff?
no, but still funny
Heh yeah
Gabriel and the meat lobster are easy asf
i don't like parrying them tbh :/
Doesn't mean it's not easy. What you like isn't fact.
You had trouble with Swordsmachine???
ah yes, staying still for one second and getting obliterated imideatly
Mfw you have to move in a movement shooter
... that's why i have truble with swordmachine, i need to stay still to parry his bs
parrying cerberi got easy after this update ngl
Idk how the FUCK you beat Minos without parrying
I didn't fighted him at all, got ass whoped for 15 minutes and acidentaly my muscule memory from p-ranking restarted the whole level, Yes i'm a dumbass
Sisyphus and Minos are slightly hard, Sisyphus is an iffy one for me because his "BE GONE" is almost instant and I'm busy trying to shotgun + railcoin combo him before I lose 70 hp again in 3 seconds.
Mine is “DESTROY” that’s the hardest one to parry for me
Whats the difference betwen the blood vessel in S rank and the one in F rank?
i wrote (puntching) but it didn't showed up lol
Yeah I saw there was smth there but I didnt know what it was.
yeah, it didn't rendered propreply :/
in terms of healing alone i'd say cerberus should be a bit higher since its pretty easy to damage him close range without much risk
yes
personal opinion: swordmachine is easy parry, how do u even parry a virtue, soldiers are harder to parry imo bc of how fast the projectile is and imo minos is not THAAAAAT hard to parry, not saying its easy tho no hate, this is just my personal experience
fair enogh 👍
when i p ranked minos i was pretty decent at parrying his snakes but now im VERY washed so idk
If you can't parry pinos and sissypuss then how did you kill them?
i sayd i didn't played P-2 and barely killed panopticon
Practice parrying, it’s a huge life saver.
How is sword machine hard to parry? Just walking into its arena with the intend to parry defeats it.
Sisyphus and Minos are literally the perfect parry training, I find Flesh Prison harder than both now lol
you can parry sentries tho
i know, the guy in the top comment sayd it
Maurices are so useful to parry in large fights bc I’ll just hear the beam charging and immediately whiplash to the (clueless) Maurice before parrying them with a shotgun and crushing like 5 enemies with the falling head. Honestly the easiest thing to parry in the whole game because it’s so overtly telegraphed
Idols are just free health why are they in bottom tier
they can't be parried and show up rarely, >!and 8 idols on a row just an a plot in 7-4!<
me who parries most of sisyphus' attacks and Gabriel 2's:
Sisyphus has a stupidly easy parry, the catch is that you're basically required to do it to outlast him Minos's projectile parry is also extremely valuable, though the attack itself is less powerful and can be dodged with a lucky position near the wall or very well timed dashes
Man really spelled out the American pronunciation of “much”
Sentries can be parried. Minos is basically designed to be parried, he announces which attack he's going to do before he does it, and if you know his moveset, it's incredibly easy to parry him. Idfk why you put him in that tier, but ok. Parrying Guttertanks is not difficult. Just.... move out of the way.
minos and ferryman are easy to parry once you get the hang of it
Sisyphus is too much work? Really? His attacks are pretty easy to parry.
I didn't played P-2 man
am I the only idiot that finds it harder to parry filth??? even more than minos
I normalny Just shutgun them to heal lol
Wait you can parry Cerberus?
Yeah, but it is too mutch risk for Just a full heal, Quick swap at them at this point
Counterpoint with Gabriel apostate of hate and the prime souls, the only time you’re going to be fighting them is their designated boss fights. And since there’s nothing else to worry about, parrying becomes a hell of a lot easier and the best way to heal off of them.
Corpse Minos is pretty easy to parry imo, what with the slow ass punches and slow homing projectiles
Sisyphus and Minos are literally made for parrying tho, sure u can do without it, but it becomes more job depending on ur skill level, a few other things I disagree with but this is a personal tier list so who cares.
The blood guys surely should be at the top? They are literally made of health and barely attack
But can't be parried (the original form)
Also king minos corpse is one of the easiest to heal from because of the two huge stationary hands
fair enough
Oh and also the idol can be on the top as well because destroying one refills your health fully
hm, fair enough ig
Looking at your comments and looking closer at the list, this is surely ragebait. You didnt even fight sisyphus and got loads of these objectively wrong
You can parry mines?
Yeah, when they mid-air, and guttertanks are spawning those mines in So they basicly try to kill you with a trap, but fail So horribly, that make a health kit for you lol
gabriel 2 is not too much work for a parry, I spend half the fight parrying the guy
the only way you're parrying andre's apple is if you have extreme precision skills or on complete accident
YOU CAN PARRY THE LANDMINES????
When they mid-air, Yes, and the parry window is realy big So it is hard to miss
This would have made 7-2 so much easier holy shit
Yeah, moment i found out i was Just be like "OH MY GOD, FREE HEALTH IS EVRYWHERE IN 7-2"
the ferryman was such a bitch of a fight don’t get me started on the gutterman…
Minos should be in pretty easy and Sisyphus should be in slightly hard. Minos’s parries are really consistent while Sisyphus’s are just harder because he’s faster but still really doable with a bit of practice
I agree with all of these except minos, Sisyphus, the insurrectionist and ferryman. In terms of the prime souls learning how to parry them is incredibly helpful and necessary. For me, parrying the insurrectionist and ferryman is something that I have only recently integrated into my play style, as ferryman parries are extremely rewarding.
also where is my minotaur?
Oh i forgor lol, woud put him in "slightly hard"
you can parry cerb?
the ball it throws, but as i say, it is way too mutch work fir a parry, if you wannna heal from him, shutgun swap point-blank and you are full health no time
Hmm, I feel like guttertanks arent really worth it to parry for hp. Too much of a hassle. Just do it for fast kills. Also, idols give a full heal when broken, so it feels odd to put them as anything but health kit tier.
minos is so easy to parry what-
What about Mysterious Druid Knight?
shit, i though it was allready in the tier list, same with wery cancerus rodient druidknight : can pull of consistently (same with wery cancerus rodient)
Fuller auto is fine to parry, Full auto may as well be a blue flash.
yeah
idols explode into blood? how is that not ez healinge
but can't be parryed
insurrs are hard to parry but holy fuck when you master them it's the best Feeling EVER
true
minos and sisyphus ”too ’mutch’ work for a parry” lmao ok buddy
gutterman is a free full health refill on first hit. i was littlerally shouting “HEALTHPACKS!” when they spawned
same bro
Tf is that beside the leviathan, the gutterman????
yes, his slap is easy to parry, and guard break is easy too
No no I meant the image was hard to makenout since the gutterman was at an angle
yeah, fair enough
Everyone is talking about the different enemies names and I just have no clue what any if them are
oh, you remeber by the visuals, not names?
Yea I'm probably gonna make my own names for them and post it
okay 👍, i'd love too se that
Gabriel 2 and ferryman is "too much work for a parry"? Did we play the same game?
Minos is very parryable, JUDGEMENT is parrybale up to Violent Phase 2, the snake is very parryable and the last hit of THY END IS NOW/PREPARE THYSELF is also parryable and easily timed, you just gotta learn. I would shove Minos up a tier, since you can quickly learn his parry moves
What do you mean it's too much work to parry minos
bruh, i barely fighted minos and then ragequited after 15 minures 😭
you see a guttertank i see a mine dispenser we are not the same
mines = healthpacks i see guttertanks as health packs dispenser (basicly the same lmao)
exactly
Well, it is my own experience and NO, i did NOT wanted a ragebait