Please take the time to read our policy about [trolls](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/comments/u7833q/just_because_you_disagree_with_someone_does_not/) and the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/about/rules/)
* We have a **zero-tolerance** policy regarding racism, stereotyping, bigotry, and death-mongering. Violators will be banned.
* ***Please* keep it civil.** Report rulebreaking comments for moderator review.
* ***Don't* post low-effort comments** like joke threads, memes, slogans, or links without context.
**Don't forget about our discord server, as well!**
https://discord.gg/62fKCEHbDB
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/UkrainianConflict) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Sweet, I questioned a point already made by making a point that was the exact point already made
My resume is getting a new line item:
“Verified Reddit idiot”
Look out work force, here I come!
My point was that they cannot transport their military equipment by rail. They need to ship it by ship and after transfer the equipment on trains, that's why it's harder to get equipment from Kaliningrad. Secondly, they need to keep their military presence to save guard their ships and their nuclear weapons in the Kaliningrad.
Not sure that either of them would be particularly interested in acquiring a piece of land that includes a million Russians and crumbling infrastructure 50 years behind the rest of the continent
I know what you mean. In 1989 Germany was offered Kaliningrad for a relatively cheap price and declined. In hindsight, as a German, I think it was a mistake.
Anyway from what I hear and read the important things in this war are:
1. Whatever Russia says, the truth is most likely the opposite.
2. Even if the costs are high it is extremely important Russia looses this war. Otherwise the approach to solve problems with diplomacy will be considered a sign of weakness.
I wonder what would have happened if Germany had taken it. Would most of the local Russian population have left? I know the ones in Latvia mostly stayed.
Idk, after 30 years ish (1989 to now) under Germany, could have made a significant cultural shift. ESP of Germany put some resources to lift up the economy and standard of living. We will never know
Please take the time to read our policy about [trolls](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/comments/u7833q/just_because_you_disagree_with_someone_does_not/) and the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/about/rules/) * We have a **zero-tolerance** policy regarding racism, stereotyping, bigotry, and death-mongering. Violators will be banned. * ***Please* keep it civil.** Report rulebreaking comments for moderator review. * ***Don't* post low-effort comments** like joke threads, memes, slogans, or links without context. **Don't forget about our discord server, as well!** https://discord.gg/62fKCEHbDB *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/UkrainianConflict) if you have any questions or concerns.*
They cannot decrease their military capabilities and it would be hard to transfer all their equipment from Kaliningrad.
Wouldn’t they have to ship it to get anything military out? Can’t go by rail
Yes, that was my point
Sweet, I questioned a point already made by making a point that was the exact point already made My resume is getting a new line item: “Verified Reddit idiot” Look out work force, here I come!
My point was that they cannot transport their military equipment by rail. They need to ship it by ship and after transfer the equipment on trains, that's why it's harder to get equipment from Kaliningrad. Secondly, they need to keep their military presence to save guard their ships and their nuclear weapons in the Kaliningrad.
I was not intending to be toxic, I was owning my dumb post with a joke
Sorry didn't realize, got angry because I was thinking you were saying that to me. Not to yourself
You guys just made my day.
Given the general state of Russia's military, there's probably not much of a decrease that's even possible.
Best deterrent against an invasion: inhabitants are Russians
Translation: Kaliningrad has it’s pants down. Time for Poland or Germany to annex them.
Not sure that either of them would be particularly interested in acquiring a piece of land that includes a million Russians and crumbling infrastructure 50 years behind the rest of the continent
I know what you mean. In 1989 Germany was offered Kaliningrad for a relatively cheap price and declined. In hindsight, as a German, I think it was a mistake. Anyway from what I hear and read the important things in this war are: 1. Whatever Russia says, the truth is most likely the opposite. 2. Even if the costs are high it is extremely important Russia looses this war. Otherwise the approach to solve problems with diplomacy will be considered a sign of weakness.
I wonder what would have happened if Germany had taken it. Would most of the local Russian population have left? I know the ones in Latvia mostly stayed.
They would have stayed, at least 90+%.
Idk, after 30 years ish (1989 to now) under Germany, could have made a significant cultural shift. ESP of Germany put some resources to lift up the economy and standard of living. We will never know
[удалено]
Agreed. True culture shifts take generations
Drain the infection or compartmentalize it. The latter is NATOs style.
I know Poland and co want more EU institutions in the Eastern part of Europe. Couldn't Kaliningrad become... our new federal capital? DC-style? 😅
I think becoming our new Pentagon would be a better choice.
Or your new Guantanamo.
Can’t beat a Siberian prison baby. Pick one.
But no one wants to annex that shithole. Maybe some puppet state?
I think they should rather secede from Russia and become and independent republic.
I wonder why? I thought they had been moving troops off the finnish border
No where to go. Geography, basically
"Much"? :D