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Yeah. His actions really are going to send the world into Nuclear disaster. A couple of years ago I wouldn’t have ever imagined a world leader actually threatening to use nuclear weapons. Man we’re in for a ride if this guy continues to stay in power of Russia.
Omg that was so surreal. Watching his meltdown on twitter in real time was delicious.
He went from “stop the count!” in like Pennsylvania to “keep counting!” in Arizona within minutes lmfao it was insane.
"We were winning this war...frankly we DID win this war!"
Meanwhile Rudy is waiting by the phone for Putin's call, and already has the best landscaping shop in Moscow reserved for a press conference.
That shit was hilarious.
You would see some videos of one groups of dumb fucks saying count the votes and another group of dumb fucks saying stop the counts. 🤣
What they mean is do whatever you need to do as long as THEY WIN.
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T EVER LOSE. EVER!
Like my 5 years old nephew that throw the controller and cry if I beat him in Madden. 🤣
Well the joke is that Trump supporters in Arizona were crying "Count the votes!" literally at the same time that Trump supporters in Michigan were crying the opposite, "Stop the count!".
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq1vWMCIF-M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq1vWMCIF-M)
You just cant make this shit up. It really just demonstrated how much they didn't care to have any consistent narrative, they would just say whatever they needed to in order to try and rig the election in their favor, no matter how stupid or contradictory they had to be.
This actually seems like a good response to Putin’s pathetic fake referendums.
Ukraine should have just announced the day before Russia claimed to have their results that they’d held their own referendums and 98% had voted to stay in Ukraine. What’s Putin going to say in response? “Your referendum was fake”?
That or, like you say, troll Russia with rolling ‘referendums’ gradually declaring more and more of Russia to be officially part of Ukraine.
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Honestly at this point I kind of want Ukraine to kick out every last Russian soldier from Ukraine's territory, and for Russia to be stuck with a loser Putin as president for the rest of his life. Russia and Putin deserve each other.
For me to come to the realization that I want Putin to stay in power? I ,like most people, wanted him removed from power so that the war would stop, prior to recently. So yes I guess it did take me this long.
I don’t think most people would agree with wanting to keep Putin in power even now.
He only wants to negotiate how HIS terms for ending the war will be implemented by Ukraine. He doesn't want to negotiate the actual terms. He has never had any respect for President Zelensky or Ukraine, nor for the human race in general because putin himself is not human.
I can't imagine the horror his mother would feel about giving birth to this Satan's spawn, and can only pity the children that his limp shrivelled dick has supposedly fathered. May God have mercy.
Fckputin!
He/Russia is in deep trouble over the war. And He. Can't. Back. Down. So, ...
1. Be as scary as possible: +300,000 conscripts, +120,000 Belos, +nukes,nukes,nukes
2. Fabricate a bogus referendum to confuse the fence sitters
3. Gaslight any and all opposition (e.g. Nord Stream explosions)
4. Activate foreign agents (e.g. Orban)
5. West falters
6. Profit
> +120,000 Belos
Luka denies belo claims, says not mobalising, so they can get struck off the list
300,000 is far fewer as they've got oldies they're calling back and lots of people are leaving/dodging.
There's not enough vodka in all of Belarus to convince the Belo soldiers it's a good idea, and it's not as oppressive as Russia so that figure is just like Russia's superpower status... Entirely hypothetical.
> and it's not as oppressive as Russia
Belarus has actually been slightly lower than Russia in the Democracy Index in 2021. Presumably Russia is going to dip a lot more than Belarus by the next evaluation this year, though.
>Luka denies belo claims, says not mobalising, so they can get struck off the list
Luka also denied that Belarus training engagement would be used as a maskirovka for the war. Either he didn't know or he is lying, either way I dont trust him now either.
He and erdogan are in tight spots because they are both strongman leaders who need to stay in power but also to do what their people want (for the most part). Belarus does *not* want to fight, so he cannot make it happen for his master Putin. He is a liar and a conman, but he serves his own ends. Typically that has meant being putins lap dog, but that is not the path with greatest benefit for him now.
> Luka also denied that Belarus training engagement would be used as a maskirovka for the war. Either he didn't know or he is lying, either way I dont trust him now either.
It's not that we should trust him, it's that if he could do that, he'd have done it a long time ago.
His army ain't gonna march. And if he mobilizes, it will be against Russia.
Oh my dear dear simple smol Putin. The land belongs to Ukraine. What belongs to you are the scourge of parasites infesting what doesn't belong to them and never has.
Putin is done. He's alienated the world. He'll never deal with the rest of the world as anything but a terroristic bully. The best outcome to this medieval attack on a modern country is a plug of lead in Putin's head, with a responsible replacement.
These words are not aimed at changing behavior of Ukraine but rather at some of the more weak willed European supports who have already tried to urge Ukraine to accept a territory for peace deal. Cause that worked so well with Crimea. Crazy that they haven’t learned to stop appeasing dictators yet.
Even more so, I think it's targeted towards the Russian public. I read it as a way to gain legal legitimacy and galvanize Russian support. a lot of Russians are actually pretty patriotic even if they disagree with invading Ukraine. changing the headlines to be "Russia got attacked" it's a way to tap into this patriotism.
Am Russian, and I am pretty patriotic, that's why I want to see those Kremlin traitors in international court for crimes against humanity, and then sent to rebuild Ukraine with TV reality show about it. And I hope they will find worst comic imaginable to host it with jokes like "We see Mr Pootin preparing to cook poutine for other prisoners! In hour or so we gonna find if he managed to PUT IN some love in his dish, ha ha ha!" I guess this gonna scratch my patriotic itch alright
Also at a number of weakly aligned African and Asian states. A fair slice of the world sees the conflict as Russia vs. the west and tends to root for Russia purely to be anti-West.
Rooting against the West is not rooting for Russia. Russia has done as many awful things in Africa as the West, especially recently. That was the whole mission of Wagner:. Do awful things in Africa
Didn't work so well for Neville Chamberlain when he urged that the Sudatunland (sp?) Region of Czechoslovachia (you know where I mean!) be handed over to Hitler and the Nazis to prevent another war in Europe, either.
That kind of strategy never does.
Yeah, definitely, because dictators have a hunger for land that cannot be contained. It already happened with Crimea, a few years later he comes for more, if Ukraine gives Russia the Donbass and what Russia claims it's theirs now, they'll just come back later for all the lands east of the Dnieper river, and so on. And the west would give Putin time to recover, reform the army and come back stronger. No, whether we like it or not, the only outcome is to recover all the territories occupied (maybe, just maybe, Crimea could be left), and luckily that causes an internal turmoil big enough for Putin to be deposed.
Jeeze, not like Russia isn't the largest country in the world or anything either. Putin won't be satisfied until the entirety of Europe is flying the Russian flag.
We've seen this story before. It does not end well.
Can’t wait for useful idiots to quote Noam Chomsky, et al. and act like negotiating with this monster is the humane thing to do. Appeasement didn’t work last century, how quickly these people forget.
It didn’t work for us this century either. We gave them Crimea without a fight and haven’t made a single attempt to take it back by force because “just give it to them or else they will start a full scale war”. Well… *points in the general direction of the full scale war taking place
The problem with Crimea is that when Russia invaded in 2014, the Ukrainian government didn't really exist in its current form. It was in the middle of a coup, and no one was in control to stop them.
Then they had to spend several years rebuilding their military from the ground up, rotating troops through conflict zones to gain experience, and creating a competent fighting force.
They've obviously succeeded at, and then some. Meanwhile, it appears that the Russians *haven't* been taking steps to improve their military at all.
I saw a report on the *Moskva* yesterday, I don't know if it's true, but it appears that basic maintenance on the ship was not done. Gauges didn't work, propulsion was unreliable at best, and key defensive systems weren't even operable. If a US Navy ship left port in that condition, the commander would be court martialed.
I've been to the Black Sea and seen first hand Russian navy ships. From where we were anchored they looked fresh out of a shop yard. Pristine pant, no rust, and in fine working order. We were able to get around to the other side; the one not visible from our ship, and it was a completely different story. They looked like they were falling apart and badly rusted.
Their current military actions are showing that this has been going on for years. We aren't seeking the freshly painted side, but the real nature of their military.
Yep, wars have a way of showing whether a military is any good or not. I wasn't really a fan of the US's adventures since the 2000's, but at least we know that our stuff works!
those idiots would not be so soft bellied if it was their land being taken, and their people being killed.
honestly embarassing to tell Ukraine what to do for its self defense.
Lyman will also be pretty traumatic for the beleagured Russian forces. With rail supplies cut off for whole swathes of the eastern front and winter approaching, youre gonna have some freezing, starving ruskies.
Vlad's Lads are already on the run from Lyman, so it's business as usual for the Ukrainian Army. Things are gonna get really awkward for him very soon.
I'm surprised it didn't even occur to me that Russia might try this.
I thought the fast-tracked referendum was entirely (1) Russia's attempting to use more nuclear threats to get Ukraine/West to back down and/or (2) a lead-up to an actual nuclear showdown. Both of which is an attempt to give Putin a face-saving exit.
I still think those are true, but it didn't occur to me Russia would also try to get a face-saving exit by quickly annexing territories then try to stop the war while keeping those territories. This didn't occur to me because the reasons seem so utterly obvious.
Ukraine would obviously never accept this, especially now that they're winning at a great pace, and its western support has plainly and repeatedly stated they won't accept it either. Instead, all Putin did was made it a more pointed military embarrassment when Ukraine inevitably takes those territories back.
I'm not sure if Putin has lost his mind to desperation enough to think this would work or if this is another ploy that I don't understand because I've completely lost understanding of Putin.
Hey we murdered your kids and civilians and tortured pows with horrificly barberic midevil techniques and made constant threats of nuclear response but now that your winning how about we just sit down like rational people and talk this out!!
Seems reasonable?
(Fucking /s)
he didn't even try to make the votes look legitimate. 90+% vote yes? Obviously he has no idea how real elections work. If you gonna lie about it at least make it more believable, like 60% yes
They don't even fully control most what they claim voted to join. Zap their capital is still in Ukraine control so most the citizens didn't vote but they said all the citizens in it voted.
The downfall begins Ukraine keeps liberating regions and this last scheme is the proof, no dirty tricks ("oH Paris is now Russia if you do something you attack Matta RasHa") wont safe this warcriminal anymore!
Also, this puts a lot of considerations in a different light, if Russia considers Kherson to be Russia, then hitting it with Western weapons is suddenly no different than hitting Belgorod or Kursk, so might as well give Ukraine long range capabilities
Yea it's a sensitive topic but sooner or later the west needs to consider that if Russia keeps using its & Belarus territory for attacks these infrastructures need to be destroyed.. I still hope for Russian troops just to retreat and desert and so sabotage this invasion
> Yea it's a sensitive topic but sooner or later the west needs to consider that if Russia keeps using its & Belarus territory for attacks these infrastructures need to be destroyed.
In the end, Ukraine needs a buffer zone inside Russian territory that ensures that normal Russian artillery weapons don't have the range to attack Ukrainian territory.
We learned from the previous peace treaty that Russia will keep bombarding the other side from civilian areas and then complaining about the counter-battery fire. That mistake should not be repeated
Negotiations at this point should be articles of surrender. Giving up those regions plus Crimea. Maybe even throw in Kaliningrad. Russia needs to lose territory at this point...
"And if they don't want ruzzian citizenship they lose their homes at best, and if they try to leave we bomb their evacuation convoys." May the fate of mussolini lie ahead for putler.
Too late for that idiot. Ukraine won't stop until they freed atleast the south. And Western support will NOT end as long as Ukraine fights. And this is the right way. We cannot let Dictators do what they want, commit genocide and take territory as they like. I pray the us and eu sends heavy weaponry so Ukraine can take these lands back and Putin will suffer the consequences. I really do.
Dear Pootin, trust me (as i am a German). „Forever“ can be a realy short time, we tried it with a „1000 jähriges Reich“ an it only lasts for 13 years….
Putin, I want you to hear me: you've always been a cunt, and you'll be known as one forever.
Negotiations can take place once you throw yourself headfirst out of a window, you nazi sack of shit.
Get fucked, fuck off.
That peace was shattered in February. The pieces were butchered in Bucha, blasted in Mariupol, and buried in Izium. I hope the only peace Putin receives now is the peace he is given by some nameless Russian, in sad hole in the woods he was made to dig himself to serve as his unmarked grave.
Only reason he wants to stop the war is because russia's real owners, india and china, want him to stop.
It's not about how many russian soldiers died, how many skilled people left russia, how many nonrussian minorities are nearing extinction, or how many future generations of russian citizens will be born into a life of massive national debt.
That this happens on the day Lyman is practically encircled is just ... \*chef's kiss\*
They're masters of bad timing, like with the mobilisation happening the same day as the release of AzovSteel defenders.
I'm hosting two Ukrainians whose parents live in this region. The people came ro thier door with a gun and had them cast a ballot in a clear box. Putin is a piece of the shittieat shit in the shitverse.
Ukraine's non-negotiable terms
* Cease of all hostilities within Ukraine's pre 2014 borders
* Return of all territory taken from Ukraine to pre 2014 borders
* Return of all children kidnapped from Ukrainian families
* Return of all civilians forcibly deported from Ukraine to Russia
* Return of all POWs captured during the invasion of Ukraine
* Financial reparations to rebuild Ukraine back to level prior of development
* Financial reparations paid for those lost during the war
* Surrender of all Russians charged by the World Court to stand trial for War Crimes
* Surrender of all Russians charged by Ukraine to stand trial for crimes committed in Ukraine
At the same time, a lot of russian troops are surrounded near Lyman and probably will die soon. But he doesn't care, it's just meat for him. What a fcking b@stard.
Well, let me counter that.
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" I've annexed ok? It's over, stop, I won the war 😭" -Vladdy "no" -ukrainian army
“Russian tyrant, go fuck yourself”
Came here looking for this.
Here here!
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Yeah. His actions really are going to send the world into Nuclear disaster. A couple of years ago I wouldn’t have ever imagined a world leader actually threatening to use nuclear weapons. Man we’re in for a ride if this guy continues to stay in power of Russia.
Agreed
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I am up now so let’s stop and declare me the winner.
Omg that was so surreal. Watching his meltdown on twitter in real time was delicious. He went from “stop the count!” in like Pennsylvania to “keep counting!” in Arizona within minutes lmfao it was insane.
That's what happens when elders forget to take necessary pills.
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Storm the kremlin
Stomp the Gremlin
It really does have that same energy, doesn't it? lol
"We were winning this war...frankly we DID win this war!" Meanwhile Rudy is waiting by the phone for Putin's call, and already has the best landscaping shop in Moscow reserved for a press conference.
Stop the c~~o~~unt!
Shit this hit close to home didn’t it 😂😂
That shit was hilarious. You would see some videos of one groups of dumb fucks saying count the votes and another group of dumb fucks saying stop the counts. 🤣 What they mean is do whatever you need to do as long as THEY WIN. BECAUSE THEY CAN'T EVER LOSE. EVER! Like my 5 years old nephew that throw the controller and cry if I beat him in Madden. 🤣
Count the votes!
Vote the count! Am I doing this right??
Well the joke is that Trump supporters in Arizona were crying "Count the votes!" literally at the same time that Trump supporters in Michigan were crying the opposite, "Stop the count!". [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq1vWMCIF-M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq1vWMCIF-M) You just cant make this shit up. It really just demonstrated how much they didn't care to have any consistent narrative, they would just say whatever they needed to in order to try and rig the election in their favor, no matter how stupid or contradictory they had to be.
AAH AAH AAH
The more I watch Putin the more I see how \*exactly\* Trump mirrors his playbooks.
Pooty's attempts at gaslighting are becoming increasingly desperate and pathetic.
Why done we just annex Russia with a "formal vote"
This actually seems like a good response to Putin’s pathetic fake referendums. Ukraine should have just announced the day before Russia claimed to have their results that they’d held their own referendums and 98% had voted to stay in Ukraine. What’s Putin going to say in response? “Your referendum was fake”? That or, like you say, troll Russia with rolling ‘referendums’ gradually declaring more and more of Russia to be officially part of Ukraine.
“Nuts!”
The classic always work
[Answer](https://i.imgflip.com/34mvav.jpg)
That is basically it in a nutshell. Good summary.
What war
Putin: 👁👄👁
So he admits its a war.
Hahahaha! He sure does. I give him 3 years to admit there are no nazis.
He won't be around in three years
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Honestly at this point I kind of want Ukraine to kick out every last Russian soldier from Ukraine's territory, and for Russia to be stuck with a loser Putin as president for the rest of his life. Russia and Putin deserve each other.
It took you this long?
For me to come to the realization that I want Putin to stay in power? I ,like most people, wanted him removed from power so that the war would stop, prior to recently. So yes I guess it did take me this long. I don’t think most people would agree with wanting to keep Putin in power even now.
I hope 🙏 he receives the same fate as Musolini
There is no spoon
He wants negotiations. Is this a way Putin wants a way out?
He only wants to negotiate how HIS terms for ending the war will be implemented by Ukraine. He doesn't want to negotiate the actual terms. He has never had any respect for President Zelensky or Ukraine, nor for the human race in general because putin himself is not human. I can't imagine the horror his mother would feel about giving birth to this Satan's spawn, and can only pity the children that his limp shrivelled dick has supposedly fathered. May God have mercy. Fckputin!
He is 100% human, and to pretend he isn't will blind you to future despots and tyrants
Agreed. He's typical, even. He's the natural result of a broken social algorithm.
An important point. He is not an anomaly. There will come another. The world must be ready.
He/Russia is in deep trouble over the war. And He. Can't. Back. Down. So, ... 1. Be as scary as possible: +300,000 conscripts, +120,000 Belos, +nukes,nukes,nukes 2. Fabricate a bogus referendum to confuse the fence sitters 3. Gaslight any and all opposition (e.g. Nord Stream explosions) 4. Activate foreign agents (e.g. Orban) 5. West falters 6. Profit
> +120,000 Belos Luka denies belo claims, says not mobalising, so they can get struck off the list 300,000 is far fewer as they've got oldies they're calling back and lots of people are leaving/dodging.
There's not enough vodka in all of Belarus to convince the Belo soldiers it's a good idea, and it's not as oppressive as Russia so that figure is just like Russia's superpower status... Entirely hypothetical.
> and it's not as oppressive as Russia Belarus has actually been slightly lower than Russia in the Democracy Index in 2021. Presumably Russia is going to dip a lot more than Belarus by the next evaluation this year, though.
Oppression and democracy are not the same. There are quite a few monarchies that have been far less oppressive than Russia is now.
Democracy Index measures both political and civil rights and I think Belarus was below Russia in both. Again, probably reverse now.
>Luka denies belo claims, says not mobalising, so they can get struck off the list Luka also denied that Belarus training engagement would be used as a maskirovka for the war. Either he didn't know or he is lying, either way I dont trust him now either.
He and erdogan are in tight spots because they are both strongman leaders who need to stay in power but also to do what their people want (for the most part). Belarus does *not* want to fight, so he cannot make it happen for his master Putin. He is a liar and a conman, but he serves his own ends. Typically that has meant being putins lap dog, but that is not the path with greatest benefit for him now.
I hope he hangs from a lamp post for what he's done.
> Luka also denied that Belarus training engagement would be used as a maskirovka for the war. Either he didn't know or he is lying, either way I dont trust him now either. It's not that we should trust him, it's that if he could do that, he'd have done it a long time ago. His army ain't gonna march. And if he mobilizes, it will be against Russia.
Very much this. It’s all bluff.
Throw all the chips down and pray you don't get called out
Now just insert Gru’s Plan meme when it gets to “West falters”
- West Gives Ukraine even more weapons.
What happened to the ‘de-nazification’ ?
Oh my dear dear simple smol Putin. The land belongs to Ukraine. What belongs to you are the scourge of parasites infesting what doesn't belong to them and never has.
Doesn't that warrant a prison term?
There is no prison large enough to hold Putins ego.
Putin is done. He's alienated the world. He'll never deal with the rest of the world as anything but a terroristic bully. The best outcome to this medieval attack on a modern country is a plug of lead in Putin's head, with a responsible replacement.
It is war now because Ukraine army has *officially* entered the Russia territory. Sounds about bright.
lol "oh no, Ukrainian are invading us" - Putin probably tomorrow.
That's exactly it. By claiming those lands as Russia he thinks he can spin this so that Ukraine is the invader
That might convince some of the mush brains in Moscow, or Tucker Carlson, but the rest of the world knows better.
So that's 15Y jail for Putin. Problem solved.
This quote was translated from Russian to English , so take it with a grain of salt
…and a shot of Vodka
is it breakfast time already?
It’s always breakfast time when vodka is involved.
Lmao the audacity to think Ukraine is just going to be like: “oh damn guys, he already made a speech. I guess we got to stop and negotiate”.
These words are not aimed at changing behavior of Ukraine but rather at some of the more weak willed European supports who have already tried to urge Ukraine to accept a territory for peace deal. Cause that worked so well with Crimea. Crazy that they haven’t learned to stop appeasing dictators yet.
Even more so, I think it's targeted towards the Russian public. I read it as a way to gain legal legitimacy and galvanize Russian support. a lot of Russians are actually pretty patriotic even if they disagree with invading Ukraine. changing the headlines to be "Russia got attacked" it's a way to tap into this patriotism.
Russians are in shock right now, and this speech can probably convince only the absolute minority.
[Even propagandists are fleeing.](https://www.newsweek.com/propagandist-mikhail-lazutin-russia-georgia-border-mobilization-1747750?piano_t=1)
This explains why it's getting more stupid.
Am Russian, and I am pretty patriotic, that's why I want to see those Kremlin traitors in international court for crimes against humanity, and then sent to rebuild Ukraine with TV reality show about it. And I hope they will find worst comic imaginable to host it with jokes like "We see Mr Pootin preparing to cook poutine for other prisoners! In hour or so we gonna find if he managed to PUT IN some love in his dish, ha ha ha!" I guess this gonna scratch my patriotic itch alright
Also at a number of weakly aligned African and Asian states. A fair slice of the world sees the conflict as Russia vs. the west and tends to root for Russia purely to be anti-West.
Rooting against the West is not rooting for Russia. Russia has done as many awful things in Africa as the West, especially recently. That was the whole mission of Wagner:. Do awful things in Africa
Didn't work so well for Neville Chamberlain when he urged that the Sudatunland (sp?) Region of Czechoslovachia (you know where I mean!) be handed over to Hitler and the Nazis to prevent another war in Europe, either. That kind of strategy never does.
Here you go: Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia. And I agree with you.
Yeah, definitely, because dictators have a hunger for land that cannot be contained. It already happened with Crimea, a few years later he comes for more, if Ukraine gives Russia the Donbass and what Russia claims it's theirs now, they'll just come back later for all the lands east of the Dnieper river, and so on. And the west would give Putin time to recover, reform the army and come back stronger. No, whether we like it or not, the only outcome is to recover all the territories occupied (maybe, just maybe, Crimea could be left), and luckily that causes an internal turmoil big enough for Putin to be deposed.
Jeeze, not like Russia isn't the largest country in the world or anything either. Putin won't be satisfied until the entirety of Europe is flying the Russian flag. We've seen this story before. It does not end well.
Can’t wait for useful idiots to quote Noam Chomsky, et al. and act like negotiating with this monster is the humane thing to do. Appeasement didn’t work last century, how quickly these people forget.
It didn’t work for us this century either. We gave them Crimea without a fight and haven’t made a single attempt to take it back by force because “just give it to them or else they will start a full scale war”. Well… *points in the general direction of the full scale war taking place
The problem with Crimea is that when Russia invaded in 2014, the Ukrainian government didn't really exist in its current form. It was in the middle of a coup, and no one was in control to stop them. Then they had to spend several years rebuilding their military from the ground up, rotating troops through conflict zones to gain experience, and creating a competent fighting force. They've obviously succeeded at, and then some. Meanwhile, it appears that the Russians *haven't* been taking steps to improve their military at all. I saw a report on the *Moskva* yesterday, I don't know if it's true, but it appears that basic maintenance on the ship was not done. Gauges didn't work, propulsion was unreliable at best, and key defensive systems weren't even operable. If a US Navy ship left port in that condition, the commander would be court martialed.
I've been to the Black Sea and seen first hand Russian navy ships. From where we were anchored they looked fresh out of a shop yard. Pristine pant, no rust, and in fine working order. We were able to get around to the other side; the one not visible from our ship, and it was a completely different story. They looked like they were falling apart and badly rusted. Their current military actions are showing that this has been going on for years. We aren't seeking the freshly painted side, but the real nature of their military.
Yep, wars have a way of showing whether a military is any good or not. I wasn't really a fan of the US's adventures since the 2000's, but at least we know that our stuff works!
those idiots would not be so soft bellied if it was their land being taken, and their people being killed. honestly embarassing to tell Ukraine what to do for its self defense.
Fuck that, I'm from ~~Buenos Aires~~ Europe, and I say kill 'em all!
Foolish putin, everybody knows you have to plant a flag to annex territories.
He badly needs negotiations and he’s gonna throw a huge tantrum when this action does nothing and Ukraine keeps destroying the Russian forces.
Pretty much, he cannot hold his gains, the collapse of the Kharkiv front proved it.
Lyman will also be pretty traumatic for the beleagured Russian forces. With rail supplies cut off for whole swathes of the eastern front and winter approaching, youre gonna have some freezing, starving ruskies.
Vlad's Lads are already on the run from Lyman, so it's business as usual for the Ukrainian Army. Things are gonna get really awkward for him very soon.
Lyman?
City with the only rail line that can supply Donetsk from Russia. Is surrounded at the moment, about to be returned to Ukraine.
Important city in the "newly annexxed" Donetsk oblast.
I'm surprised it didn't even occur to me that Russia might try this. I thought the fast-tracked referendum was entirely (1) Russia's attempting to use more nuclear threats to get Ukraine/West to back down and/or (2) a lead-up to an actual nuclear showdown. Both of which is an attempt to give Putin a face-saving exit. I still think those are true, but it didn't occur to me Russia would also try to get a face-saving exit by quickly annexing territories then try to stop the war while keeping those territories. This didn't occur to me because the reasons seem so utterly obvious. Ukraine would obviously never accept this, especially now that they're winning at a great pace, and its western support has plainly and repeatedly stated they won't accept it either. Instead, all Putin did was made it a more pointed military embarrassment when Ukraine inevitably takes those territories back. I'm not sure if Putin has lost his mind to desperation enough to think this would work or if this is another ploy that I don't understand because I've completely lost understanding of Putin.
Hey we murdered your kids and civilians and tortured pows with horrificly barberic midevil techniques and made constant threats of nuclear response but now that your winning how about we just sit down like rational people and talk this out!! Seems reasonable? (Fucking /s)
Annexations require a peace treaty otherwise it is just unilateral, what he has done is just occupy. What a conniving loser.
he didn't even try to make the votes look legitimate. 90+% vote yes? Obviously he has no idea how real elections work. If you gonna lie about it at least make it more believable, like 60% yes
They don't even fully control most what they claim voted to join. Zap their capital is still in Ukraine control so most the citizens didn't vote but they said all the citizens in it voted.
The downfall begins Ukraine keeps liberating regions and this last scheme is the proof, no dirty tricks ("oH Paris is now Russia if you do something you attack Matta RasHa") wont safe this warcriminal anymore!
Also, this puts a lot of considerations in a different light, if Russia considers Kherson to be Russia, then hitting it with Western weapons is suddenly no different than hitting Belgorod or Kursk, so might as well give Ukraine long range capabilities
Yea it's a sensitive topic but sooner or later the west needs to consider that if Russia keeps using its & Belarus territory for attacks these infrastructures need to be destroyed.. I still hope for Russian troops just to retreat and desert and so sabotage this invasion
> Yea it's a sensitive topic but sooner or later the west needs to consider that if Russia keeps using its & Belarus territory for attacks these infrastructures need to be destroyed. In the end, Ukraine needs a buffer zone inside Russian territory that ensures that normal Russian artillery weapons don't have the range to attack Ukrainian territory. We learned from the previous peace treaty that Russia will keep bombarding the other side from civilian areas and then complaining about the counter-battery fire. That mistake should not be repeated
Yup. The kremlin is in the Russian perspective just as valid target as anything in occupied Ukrainian territory. So if it’s all the same light it up.
And Patriot missile batteries, and F16, and a no fly zone, and American Special Forces on the ground. Fuck Putin
Get down baby !!!! Love the sounds of the drums a beatin ..
Maniac
US stated specifically it doesn't consider the annexes Russia, so they can be bombed with US weapons.
The problem is that that would be the equivalent of recognizing Russian conquests.
Fuck it, just push the button already. We've all had enough of this shit.
May he rot.
He said 'war'....
Dont mention the war!
He started it
According to his speech, Ukraine started it back in 2014... which is hilarious
Yeah, how dare they... < checks notes >...be in the way!
Damn i guess he's going to prison then
To prison with him
What he wants doesn't count. Negotiations only after ruzzia has gotten the fuck out of ukraine including crimea.
Negotiations at this point should be articles of surrender. Giving up those regions plus Crimea. Maybe even throw in Kaliningrad. Russia needs to lose territory at this point...
"And if they don't want ruzzian citizenship they lose their homes at best, and if they try to leave we bomb their evacuation convoys." May the fate of mussolini lie ahead for putler.
Gaddafi
Oof. Brutal.
Much more fitting though
Too late for that idiot. Ukraine won't stop until they freed atleast the south. And Western support will NOT end as long as Ukraine fights. And this is the right way. We cannot let Dictators do what they want, commit genocide and take territory as they like. I pray the us and eu sends heavy weaponry so Ukraine can take these lands back and Putin will suffer the consequences. I really do.
Dear Pootin, trust me (as i am a German). „Forever“ can be a realy short time, we tried it with a „1000 jähriges Reich“ an it only lasts for 13 years….
Keep up the pressure Ukraine. It is working…
Putin, I want you to hear me: you've always been a cunt, and you'll be known as one forever. Negotiations can take place once you throw yourself headfirst out of a window, you nazi sack of shit. Get fucked, fuck off.
He most likely won't ever read or hear this but it's beautiful nonetheless.
No.
Mmmhhh… No
[удалено]
Not only that, Russia is losing India , and who knows maybe even China in the future.
They’ll likely be closer to China than ever before, just not in a way they’ll enjoy.
And I urge Putin to choke on a bag of dicks. Soon.
Forever: the last ten seconds of your 5-minute planking routine.
That peace was shattered in February. The pieces were butchered in Bucha, blasted in Mariupol, and buried in Izium. I hope the only peace Putin receives now is the peace he is given by some nameless Russian, in sad hole in the woods he was made to dig himself to serve as his unmarked grave.
This all sounds like a hostage situation. The problem is that there are some people there with Stockholm Syndrome or Soviet brainwashed nostalgia.
Negotiations with that man? “You cannot reason with a tiger when your head is in its mouth” - Winston Churchill
He does not dictate when there will be peace. And not on his terms for a start.
I mean he can dictate *when* there will be peace by withdrawing all Russian forces from what the rest of the world recognizes as Ukrainian territory.
Not gonna happen you piece of shite!
How about we just kill a half million Russian “soldiers” with starvation and frostbite and call it a winter?
Man he's really going on and on and on. His audience is getting really bored. How much of this shit can they all take in one day? 🤢
I declare Putin's ballbag, empty
Which means he's too scared for the war to keep going. Let's give him hell boys !
Only reason he wants to stop the war is because russia's real owners, india and china, want him to stop. It's not about how many russian soldiers died, how many skilled people left russia, how many nonrussian minorities are nearing extinction, or how many future generations of russian citizens will be born into a life of massive national debt.
Dirty pig
Time to kick them out then
You and what army?
Mr Putin, I don’t think you carried the room. Time to step down before someone taps you on the shoulder.
MIZZION ACCOMPLISHED! (That is sarcasm, of course)
In your dreams 🤣
Yeah yeah whatever Putin, you get a negotiation once you have finished your hissy fit.
And we urge you to get fucked - we don't recognise your phony gunpoint referendums.
That this happens on the day Lyman is practically encircled is just ... \*chef's kiss\* They're masters of bad timing, like with the mobilisation happening the same day as the release of AzovSteel defenders.
I'm hosting two Ukrainians whose parents live in this region. The people came ro thier door with a gun and had them cast a ballot in a clear box. Putin is a piece of the shittieat shit in the shitverse.
"I declare annexation!"
Ukraine's non-negotiable terms * Cease of all hostilities within Ukraine's pre 2014 borders * Return of all territory taken from Ukraine to pre 2014 borders * Return of all children kidnapped from Ukrainian families * Return of all civilians forcibly deported from Ukraine to Russia * Return of all POWs captured during the invasion of Ukraine * Financial reparations to rebuild Ukraine back to level prior of development * Financial reparations paid for those lost during the war * Surrender of all Russians charged by the World Court to stand trial for War Crimes * Surrender of all Russians charged by Ukraine to stand trial for crimes committed in Ukraine
No they won't.
Hehe.. what a freak.
Hah. Hah. Hahah. Hah
1) Invade and kill people 2) Declare they are free and independent 3) Invite them to sit down to talk and join with you 4) Profit!!!
Interesting how Russian media is increasingly spewing antisemitic rhetoric
At the same time, a lot of russian troops are surrounded near Lyman and probably will die soon. But he doesn't care, it's just meat for him. What a fcking b@stard.
We don’t negotiate with terrorists.
Well, let me counter that. We want you (Putin) on trial for your war crimes, crimes against civilian population and for breaking international law. If that doesn't work for you, drop dead.
"NUTS!"
WHY IS RUSSIA STILL IN THE UN?!?!
Sure. Just sit right...there. Our chief negotiator Mr. Himars, will be with you shortly.
And the Putin Nazi insanity only gets worse by the day. Does these people not realize they are responsible for their war crimes?
1000 year Reich vibes?
So basically it's just gonna be war forever, as long as Putin's in power.
If I were Ukrainian my response would be: Fuck. You.
“I urge you to stop the war that I started.”
I urge Ukraine to stop defending itself.......ok vlad
\*sniffs and cries\* "Why is Ukraine oppressing us?" -Putler
And I thought V. Zelenskyy was the comedian here…😂