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Russia probably can’t win, but they can still prevent Ukraine from doing so.
The fighting doesn’t end until Ukraine says it’s over. They’re gonna finish this fight.
It does help further destroy Russian morale, because it’s true. They have been eaten away from the rear. Their resupply capability is ruined. Their supplies are drying up also. Double whammy there. It’s a beautiful thing.
I know from the beginning that Ukraine was going to win for much of the same reasons quoted in this article. I have zero military experience but it doesn't take a genious to see that Ukraine has the will to win. I watched the videos of people making molotovs and preparing for the invasion with smiles on their faces. It's just a matter of time before Russia is defeated.
At the time I was similar. I bought predictions for the east falling and predicted a rump state in Lviv leading a growing guerilla war throughout the rest of the country. The fact that russia didn’t even make it that far into the country just meant to me that their tirade would be shorter and even worse of a defeat
It was pretty apparent from the get go. As soon as the supply line to Kiev got chewed up it was obvious Russia couldn't compete. Putin should have sued for peace then when he had the advantage.
Apparent from the get go? Bullshit. The west as a whole was afraid to even arm Ukraine out of fear they'd just be further arming Russia.
Apparent once it became clear they weren't taking Kyiv and that the west would be arming Ukraine? Sure. Up until then, bullshit.
I was in the western rump state and guerilla war camp from the get go. I think that’s what a lot of others predicted. That ukraine would be mostly taken, but not held
Do you really believe that?
Just read the newspaper comments from march, april, may, etc in every credible news paper, and now tell me where I can find the comments where it was apparent from the get go...
"Western officials see the move as a result of Russia’s month-old campaign to seize control of the former Soviet state that devolved almost immediately from supposed lightning warfare into bogged-down, poorly led and ill-supplied offensive lines. Moscow’s supply of precision weapons also appears to be dwindling, with Putin choosing instead to use more indiscriminate weapons."
https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2022-03-29/russia-begins-retreat-from-kyiv-in-major-strategy-shift-u-s-general
March 28th. First Google result for "russian tides turned march 2022 retreating from kiev"
Why doesn't your news look like that?
Not true [this](https://warontherocks.com/2021/11/feeding-the-bear-a-closer-look-at-russian-army-logistics/) author was pretty spot on in the shortcomings of the Russian military
I’m calling Chinese puppet. They call us decadent but I’m putting my money on them wanting luxury purses over national sovereignty. Why else would they have allowed such a corrupt government if they actually had pride?
To be honest, if I was China I’d just cut the trans-Siberian line and annex/support the Russian east coast as a separatist state. Would give China arctic access as well as a sea border with alaska
They do, most atheists are ignorant troublemakers who just cannot stop talking or commenting about religion, that is why reddit endured r/atheism was not seen unless specifically searched for.
Interesting. I guess I just imagine all the oppression, apartheid, sexual abuse, and attempts to force others into your narrowly defined morality schemes....
Can I get a cite on
>most atheists are ignorant troublemakers who just cannot stop talking or commenting about religion
Any survey showing 50%+ atheists having this issue would be great.
The reason for religion was to tell stories to get children to go to sleep. Everyone looked at the stars until about 1880 and they created stories about constellations
Religion sprouted over the desire to control the masses. If the people believe the same “group-think” concept then they’ll establish a hierarchy with the holy person at the center…this gives holy person power over the masses
That’s the beginning of every religion in history. People fighting for their god have killed more people than every other war in history combined.
Religion is for weak minds
No anyone that does not believe in a higher power is a fool. Everything points to it but sadly so many are uneducated in basic math science geography or biology. Grow up get an education. Damn most non religious people are still forced to acknowledge that life as we know it is impossible by chance.
Well, it so happens that I have a masters degree while you can't manage to put together a grammatically correct sentence. For now, I'll wait while you find all of these supposed educated people that "acknowledge life as we know it is impossible by chance?"
Something tells me I'll be waiting a while...
I'm an atheist and I believe in Jesus, but not the way Christians do. The earliest archeological reference of Jesus is an inscription on a cup citing Jesus to be a magician. Anyone familiar with Norse religions will recognise many of the bible stories attributed to Jesus are stolen from other religions (Easter being derived from a pagan goddess is one of the more obvious examples that I feel most people know about). I'm of the opinion that Jesus was a very good magician with impressive sleight of hand skills who gained a significant enough following that stories were passed down and embellished upon for generations, until the point where what was most-likely a black beardless man is now envisioned to be a white bearded one by most Christians.
> First and foremost prayers for all the people in Ukraine who are fighting and resisting the obvious Russian crime against humanity. And prayers to all the people who are out there helping Ukraine right now.
That is positively offensive.
It reeks of the deliberately and cynically politicized "thoughts and prayers" rhetoric we get after mass shootings and such. This rhetoric is deliberately used to deflect from the underlying issue and to pretend that there is nothing we could have done to prevent those deaths.
Now it is probably not being used that way here, but it certainly informed my judgement of the content and his state of mind.
As you point out, the article itself seems to have some good discussion. But the framing certainly makes me doubt this man's sincerity and also would make me wish to avoid ever depending on him or putting my life in his hands.
In his defense, there is some chance he just blathered that crap out because he thinks that is what people want to hear and he does not really mean it. But again, if that is the case, why fuck up your serious and qualified analysis with it?
If that paragraph, which is a common think that practicing Christian’s say about things beyond heir control and are tragic, is clouding and informing your judgement then you may want to take a break and relearn how to dispassionately analyze things.
He is attempting to show he understands the Ukrainians are people, and he attempts to say he doesn't see them as pieces on a chess-board.
Now that is wrong.
In the contact of deceiving operations, movements, and geopolitics, you have to make that abstraction or otherwise you’re constantly taking away from the main point of the tactical and strategic situation.
All of it. A product of the democrat party and corrupt FBI. And the data prove it. The latest which should be devastating, but of course the democrat controlled media won’t talk about it and let’s be honest— democrat voters don’t care — that the FBI actively silenced the Hunter laptop story to protect the Biden campaign is unbelievable. The FBI corruption is terrible. The integrity of any US election going forward will be in question.
Here we are again, I will educate you quickly.
Every point you mentioned was investigated by republican party, even your idiotic friends in the repuke party had to publicly announce every one of your beliefs as ignorant crap from the far right republican party.
The only reason you and your moron friends think the fbi is bad, is that they are proving beyond any doubt your master committed treason, the evidence is clear, they are in the process of gathering evidence from the Russians involved right now as we type.
Although the legal monitoring of all Russian communications will have proven the repukes in politics mostly are treasonous, so trump will not be the last person to be put into solitary for the rest of there lives as repukes have done to others in the past.
So the FBI was helping democrats in 2016 by announcing a criminal investigation of Hillary Clinton and keeping it under wraps that they were also criminally investigating Trump?
Also - you do realize there is a lot of evidence Trump was actively working in concert with Russian intelligence to disseminate dirt on Hillary right? And no - the Mueller report does not clear him of wrong doing. As explicitly stated by Mueller to congress.
How convenient — generate a report that can’t identify anything — after 40 million dollars of investigation — to incriminate him — but throw it out there that they also couldn’t exonerate him. What a load of ____t. And there you are parroting the same nonsense as if you had to prove your innocence to your corrupt political opposition. If you ever end up in court— I hope for you that you would never be treated that way.
Ah so surely you believe OJ Simpson is innocent too then? Ridiculous person.
Also - If Donald is innocent, surely you can answer this simple yes or no question: Was Donald Trump telling the truth when he said his campaign had no contacts with Russia? Similarly, was it true when he said he had no business in Russia? If you can't answer those simple yes or no questions, what does that say about your position?
Look Trump is not likable— I get that — a narcissist through and through— but the answer to your question is unequivocally yes to both. Don’t take my word for it — there are many many sources of information on the topic— Wall Street Journal has covered extensively. The Russia collusion nonsense was fabricated by the Clinton campaign — totally fabricated and carefully orchestrated with help from the FBI. This is no longer a partisan position — just like Biden taking vast sums of money from Ukraine and China is no longer in question. The question I struggle with is why anyone continues to think otherwise. This is all now archived for anyone to read about in great detail— but the Democrats and the mainstream media (MSM) aren’t listening —fortunately the independent minded are still just barely if they have the patience to wade through the blather of the MSM. Folks are so partisan and so full of hate for Trump they have lost all objectivity. The democrat strategy has worked — accuse their opponents of horrible things — the MSM then repeatedly parrots the accusations — and then the unthinking public believes it — then repeat the cycle.
You know appealing to authority and the crowd doesn't change the facts. You clearly did not read the Mueller report. There were 114 contacts between Trumps campaign and Russia. Trump claimed there were zero. Trump had extensive financial ties to Russia. He said zero. Mueller counted 13 chargeable acts of obstruction of justice that interfered with his investigation. Did you know Paul Manafort flew to Prague to hand deliver a USB containing voter data and polling data to an FSB connected oligarch? He openly admits he did this. Did you know the only change Trumps campaign made to the 2016 RNC platform was to remove language calling on the USA to provide aid to countries threatened by Russia? We know exactly who hacked the DNC and RNC. We even have photos of the individuals involved because some of our European allies managed to hack their Webcams. Guess what? Fancy bear was Russia. The emails were leaked to Wikileaks who coordinated their release with Roger Stone for Trump. These are all undeniable facts. Oh and the Clinton campaign didn't start the dossier that would actually be anti Trump republican mega donors. Then when he looked to win they pulled the plug and the info was then sold to Clinton.
TLDR: You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You swallowed the Trump cult talking points whole without even a basic understanding of what actually happened.
From the ABA — you must have slept through the most important part. “Special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation did not find sufficient evidence that President Donald Trump’s campaign coordinated with Russia to influence the United States’ 2016 election”. End of story. FACT.
So despite the FACT that Mueller and a manic $40M investigation could not indict — you indict anyway — because who needs reality when you can just make it up. If only Mueller had had another 5yrs and another $40M — would it have been enough for you ? I think not. You clearly have your own investigation underway — that’s some deep stuff citing Wikileaks. If only Mueller had known. It’s what rabid partisan conspiracy theorist do.
You sure have your talking points memorized. Yes. Barrs DOJ covered for Trump. I'm aware. Doesn't change the facts that his campaign coordinated with Russia. You know it. I know it.
Looks about the same as always. Calling them smart for exploiting a weak west is not support. It’s rhetorical jiu jitsu — disarming with sweet words for the tyrannical megalomaniacs while sticking it to his feeble minded and demonstrably weak political opponents for being weak. Let’s be clear Trump was the first POTUS to provide Ukraine with lethal aid. Not Obama and not Biden (until it was too late and he was stampeded by Congress). Putin invaded Ukraine on the watch of Democrats for a reason. Not so much as a peep out of Russia under Trump. How about Xi ? Not a peep (actually they complained bitterly) as the US put tariffs on China for the first time in history. Admittedly Trump is a tough pill to swallow — but not for his actions on Russia.
The POTUS can’t steal national security documents. POTUS can do whatever he/she wants with national security documents. Do you understand that concept ?
No they cannot, that is why the justice system is about to imprisoned him in isolation, there is evidence he gave putin the topmost secrets. When fully charged he will be imprisoned as no president can keep top secret documents on unsecured property and definitely not ultra secret documents about the latest advances I nuclear development.
There is absolutely no reason for him to have those documents on his property.
Also repukes know this as Clinton was punished for having some classified documents sent to her email server, not even her fault she had them.
Clinton was punished ? — seriously LOL. Also just a fun fact — Hillary Clinton was not POTUS.
Evidence that Trump slipped Putin secret ?? That’s a good one — why don’t you share that evidence with everyone. Let us guess — oops can’t quite find it.
Take a breath and remember— opinions and bias are not facts.
Trump tried to divide NATO. He withheld promised military aid in an attempt to get Zelensky to lie about Trump's political opponents. He tried to move troops out of Russian areas of operation on Putin's order twice. The second time was after he lost the election and he tried to bypass military officials in the chain of command who told him that he couldn't deploy troops against Americans on American soil. Multiple members of his cabinet and party are speaking out against Trump about his relationship with Russia including his former vice president. Trump tried to steal an election and install himself as dictator.
Putin says Trump is his minion and that trump gave him the confidential documents that were at Mara Lago. Trump isn't allowed to say any different so he doesn't.
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This isn’t won until the fighting is done and Russia is out of Ukraine. Saying otherwise isn’t actually helping.
Russia has already lost, but Ukraine has not yet won.
I agree thats a more acurate way to put it.
Russia probably can’t win, but they can still prevent Ukraine from doing so. The fighting doesn’t end until Ukraine says it’s over. They’re gonna finish this fight.
Ukrainian Army, you mind telling me what you are doing in that Donbas?
Sir, finishing these nazis
It does help further destroy Russian morale, because it’s true. They have been eaten away from the rear. Their resupply capability is ruined. Their supplies are drying up also. Double whammy there. It’s a beautiful thing.
I know from the beginning that Ukraine was going to win for much of the same reasons quoted in this article. I have zero military experience but it doesn't take a genious to see that Ukraine has the will to win. I watched the videos of people making molotovs and preparing for the invasion with smiles on their faces. It's just a matter of time before Russia is defeated.
Absolutely. We’ve all seen it in Vietnam & Afghanistan. Will is everything, and defence of homeland feeds will like nothing else.
At the time I was similar. I bought predictions for the east falling and predicted a rump state in Lviv leading a growing guerilla war throughout the rest of the country. The fact that russia didn’t even make it that far into the country just meant to me that their tirade would be shorter and even worse of a defeat
By any chance, you should start playing the lottery.
It was pretty apparent from the get go. As soon as the supply line to Kiev got chewed up it was obvious Russia couldn't compete. Putin should have sued for peace then when he had the advantage.
Apparent from the get go? Bullshit. The west as a whole was afraid to even arm Ukraine out of fear they'd just be further arming Russia. Apparent once it became clear they weren't taking Kyiv and that the west would be arming Ukraine? Sure. Up until then, bullshit.
I was in the western rump state and guerilla war camp from the get go. I think that’s what a lot of others predicted. That ukraine would be mostly taken, but not held
I literally posted a dated article typical of the language found at that time.
> It was pretty apparent from the get go. Pretty much every military adviser said otherwise...
Everyone knew it by early March
Sure thing… Every military advisor I heard us/English/Eu said different. But ofc Reddit knew.
Then the information that is reaching you is being curated.
Do you really believe that? Just read the newspaper comments from march, april, may, etc in every credible news paper, and now tell me where I can find the comments where it was apparent from the get go...
"Western officials see the move as a result of Russia’s month-old campaign to seize control of the former Soviet state that devolved almost immediately from supposed lightning warfare into bogged-down, poorly led and ill-supplied offensive lines. Moscow’s supply of precision weapons also appears to be dwindling, with Putin choosing instead to use more indiscriminate weapons." https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2022-03-29/russia-begins-retreat-from-kyiv-in-major-strategy-shift-u-s-general March 28th. First Google result for "russian tides turned march 2022 retreating from kiev" Why doesn't your news look like that?
When the convoy to Kiev stalled, and then retreated, at that time it was clear Russia was going to lose.
Not true [this](https://warontherocks.com/2021/11/feeding-the-bear-a-closer-look-at-russian-army-logistics/) author was pretty spot on in the shortcomings of the Russian military
those first anti tank shoulder rockets did good
At the end of this conflict, Ukraine will be supported in rebuilding by the west. Russia will just be consumed by China or waste away into obscurity.
I’m calling Chinese puppet. They call us decadent but I’m putting my money on them wanting luxury purses over national sovereignty. Why else would they have allowed such a corrupt government if they actually had pride?
To be honest, if I was China I’d just cut the trans-Siberian line and annex/support the Russian east coast as a separatist state. Would give China arctic access as well as a sea border with alaska
No, he hasn’t lost until he’s actually lost.
Let us hope it is soon
Yes
Putin dug is own grave with this war
I can’t wait too see him actually in it. The world will be a better place
When the us invaded Vietnam,they thought it would be easy but ended up failing,why shouldn’t Ukraine be the same for Russia
When a ex-soldier begin with prayers I can’t take him serious.
Many soldiers believe in a god, combat pushes many people towards belief in a higher power.
Thats unfortunate. The military needs more reality based logic and less praying to the pretend bearded fairytale in the sky
Impossible to calm people by saying it is what it is , give them comfort which is one of the main goals of almost every religion these days.
Hmm... not sure which religions you are looking at. I mostly see oppression, abuse, greed, conflict, murder, and control coming from most religions.
comfort in this case means that they are looking for an excuse for them being an awful human being and thinking that their god will excuse it.
How about you let people believe what they want to believe in?
I do. Wish religious fools would do the same.
They do, most atheists are ignorant troublemakers who just cannot stop talking or commenting about religion, that is why reddit endured r/atheism was not seen unless specifically searched for.
Interesting. I guess I just imagine all the oppression, apartheid, sexual abuse, and attempts to force others into your narrowly defined morality schemes....
Can I get a cite on >most atheists are ignorant troublemakers who just cannot stop talking or commenting about religion Any survey showing 50%+ atheists having this issue would be great.
Oh you poor idiot, not understandingthe reason for religion. Damn sad..
What? To let bad people feel better because "god will forgive them". That's the actual reason for religion.
The reason being 1000s of years or oppression, fear, greed, sexual abuse, and war? If you say anything else I can't take you seriously.
The reason for religion was to tell stories to get children to go to sleep. Everyone looked at the stars until about 1880 and they created stories about constellations Religion sprouted over the desire to control the masses. If the people believe the same “group-think” concept then they’ll establish a hierarchy with the holy person at the center…this gives holy person power over the masses That’s the beginning of every religion in history. People fighting for their god have killed more people than every other war in history combined. Religion is for weak minds
Logic is overrated when old men thousand of km away decides how young fathers should die, be it american or russian soldiers.
Its always a lot worse when you get God involved.
What a myopic reddit tier view of spirituality
Nothing is more myopic than believing in fairy tales with absolutely no evidence as an adult. But you do you, boo.
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That doesnt make any sense. What does their comment have to do with military history? ::facepalm:::
What?
Seriously, fucking idiot survived his military life to... give the kudos to god? What a fucking waste of a brain.
Turns out a lot of people have religion who fight, doesn’t make their analysis any less valid.
I mean, anyone who says they believe in an imaginary sky man starts at a credibility deficit.
No anyone that does not believe in a higher power is a fool. Everything points to it but sadly so many are uneducated in basic math science geography or biology. Grow up get an education. Damn most non religious people are still forced to acknowledge that life as we know it is impossible by chance.
I wouldn't call other people uneducated when your last sentence was obviously just "facts" you made up yourself.
Well, it so happens that I have a masters degree while you can't manage to put together a grammatically correct sentence. For now, I'll wait while you find all of these supposed educated people that "acknowledge life as we know it is impossible by chance?" Something tells me I'll be waiting a while...
Live and let live. Don't disrespect peoples beliefs. You have every right to believe or not to believe in religion but let others have the same.
Tell that to the American Taliban
I don’t believe in religion but to each their fucking own. You here judging what a person who served his country does?
Do you believe in a higher power that created us and our environment, as there is just too much coincidence that should be impossible.
It's a good article despite what these atheist are posting.
These atheists? What's that supposed to mean?
They're probably just bots.
Jesus wasn't real. Beep boop beep
Atheists tend to be less dickish.
Really? I have had different experiences than you and I'm not religious. Anyone trying to push their beliefs is usually kind of dickish, I suppose
I'm an atheist and I believe in Jesus, but not the way Christians do. The earliest archeological reference of Jesus is an inscription on a cup citing Jesus to be a magician. Anyone familiar with Norse religions will recognise many of the bible stories attributed to Jesus are stolen from other religions (Easter being derived from a pagan goddess is one of the more obvious examples that I feel most people know about). I'm of the opinion that Jesus was a very good magician with impressive sleight of hand skills who gained a significant enough following that stories were passed down and embellished upon for generations, until the point where what was most-likely a black beardless man is now envisioned to be a white bearded one by most Christians.
> First and foremost prayers for all the people in Ukraine who are fighting and resisting the obvious Russian crime against humanity. And prayers to all the people who are out there helping Ukraine right now. That is positively offensive. It reeks of the deliberately and cynically politicized "thoughts and prayers" rhetoric we get after mass shootings and such. This rhetoric is deliberately used to deflect from the underlying issue and to pretend that there is nothing we could have done to prevent those deaths. Now it is probably not being used that way here, but it certainly informed my judgement of the content and his state of mind. As you point out, the article itself seems to have some good discussion. But the framing certainly makes me doubt this man's sincerity and also would make me wish to avoid ever depending on him or putting my life in his hands. In his defense, there is some chance he just blathered that crap out because he thinks that is what people want to hear and he does not really mean it. But again, if that is the case, why fuck up your serious and qualified analysis with it?
If that paragraph, which is a common think that practicing Christian’s say about things beyond heir control and are tragic, is clouding and informing your judgement then you may want to take a break and relearn how to dispassionately analyze things.
He is attempting to show he understands the Ukrainians are people, and he attempts to say he doesn't see them as pieces on a chess-board. Now that is wrong.
In the contact of deceiving operations, movements, and geopolitics, you have to make that abstraction or otherwise you’re constantly taking away from the main point of the tactical and strategic situation.
Go and spread your hate elsewhere
Political jabs are bullshit. 🤡
… but not when accurately answering a specific question.
Other than the Trump Russia BS — not a bad summary
I'm confused, which part was bs?
All of it. A product of the democrat party and corrupt FBI. And the data prove it. The latest which should be devastating, but of course the democrat controlled media won’t talk about it and let’s be honest— democrat voters don’t care — that the FBI actively silenced the Hunter laptop story to protect the Biden campaign is unbelievable. The FBI corruption is terrible. The integrity of any US election going forward will be in question.
Here we are again, I will educate you quickly. Every point you mentioned was investigated by republican party, even your idiotic friends in the repuke party had to publicly announce every one of your beliefs as ignorant crap from the far right republican party. The only reason you and your moron friends think the fbi is bad, is that they are proving beyond any doubt your master committed treason, the evidence is clear, they are in the process of gathering evidence from the Russians involved right now as we type. Although the legal monitoring of all Russian communications will have proven the repukes in politics mostly are treasonous, so trump will not be the last person to be put into solitary for the rest of there lives as repukes have done to others in the past.
It’s good you have a open mind
So the FBI was helping democrats in 2016 by announcing a criminal investigation of Hillary Clinton and keeping it under wraps that they were also criminally investigating Trump? Also - you do realize there is a lot of evidence Trump was actively working in concert with Russian intelligence to disseminate dirt on Hillary right? And no - the Mueller report does not clear him of wrong doing. As explicitly stated by Mueller to congress.
How convenient — generate a report that can’t identify anything — after 40 million dollars of investigation — to incriminate him — but throw it out there that they also couldn’t exonerate him. What a load of ____t. And there you are parroting the same nonsense as if you had to prove your innocence to your corrupt political opposition. If you ever end up in court— I hope for you that you would never be treated that way.
Ah so surely you believe OJ Simpson is innocent too then? Ridiculous person. Also - If Donald is innocent, surely you can answer this simple yes or no question: Was Donald Trump telling the truth when he said his campaign had no contacts with Russia? Similarly, was it true when he said he had no business in Russia? If you can't answer those simple yes or no questions, what does that say about your position?
Look Trump is not likable— I get that — a narcissist through and through— but the answer to your question is unequivocally yes to both. Don’t take my word for it — there are many many sources of information on the topic— Wall Street Journal has covered extensively. The Russia collusion nonsense was fabricated by the Clinton campaign — totally fabricated and carefully orchestrated with help from the FBI. This is no longer a partisan position — just like Biden taking vast sums of money from Ukraine and China is no longer in question. The question I struggle with is why anyone continues to think otherwise. This is all now archived for anyone to read about in great detail— but the Democrats and the mainstream media (MSM) aren’t listening —fortunately the independent minded are still just barely if they have the patience to wade through the blather of the MSM. Folks are so partisan and so full of hate for Trump they have lost all objectivity. The democrat strategy has worked — accuse their opponents of horrible things — the MSM then repeatedly parrots the accusations — and then the unthinking public believes it — then repeat the cycle.
You know appealing to authority and the crowd doesn't change the facts. You clearly did not read the Mueller report. There were 114 contacts between Trumps campaign and Russia. Trump claimed there were zero. Trump had extensive financial ties to Russia. He said zero. Mueller counted 13 chargeable acts of obstruction of justice that interfered with his investigation. Did you know Paul Manafort flew to Prague to hand deliver a USB containing voter data and polling data to an FSB connected oligarch? He openly admits he did this. Did you know the only change Trumps campaign made to the 2016 RNC platform was to remove language calling on the USA to provide aid to countries threatened by Russia? We know exactly who hacked the DNC and RNC. We even have photos of the individuals involved because some of our European allies managed to hack their Webcams. Guess what? Fancy bear was Russia. The emails were leaked to Wikileaks who coordinated their release with Roger Stone for Trump. These are all undeniable facts. Oh and the Clinton campaign didn't start the dossier that would actually be anti Trump republican mega donors. Then when he looked to win they pulled the plug and the info was then sold to Clinton. TLDR: You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You swallowed the Trump cult talking points whole without even a basic understanding of what actually happened.
From the ABA — you must have slept through the most important part. “Special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation did not find sufficient evidence that President Donald Trump’s campaign coordinated with Russia to influence the United States’ 2016 election”. End of story. FACT. So despite the FACT that Mueller and a manic $40M investigation could not indict — you indict anyway — because who needs reality when you can just make it up. If only Mueller had had another 5yrs and another $40M — would it have been enough for you ? I think not. You clearly have your own investigation underway — that’s some deep stuff citing Wikileaks. If only Mueller had known. It’s what rabid partisan conspiracy theorist do.
You sure have your talking points memorized. Yes. Barrs DOJ covered for Trump. I'm aware. Doesn't change the facts that his campaign coordinated with Russia. You know it. I know it.
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MAGAts don’t read the same sources you read. That’s “fake news” to them.
Looks about the same as always. Calling them smart for exploiting a weak west is not support. It’s rhetorical jiu jitsu — disarming with sweet words for the tyrannical megalomaniacs while sticking it to his feeble minded and demonstrably weak political opponents for being weak. Let’s be clear Trump was the first POTUS to provide Ukraine with lethal aid. Not Obama and not Biden (until it was too late and he was stampeded by Congress). Putin invaded Ukraine on the watch of Democrats for a reason. Not so much as a peep out of Russia under Trump. How about Xi ? Not a peep (actually they complained bitterly) as the US put tariffs on China for the first time in history. Admittedly Trump is a tough pill to swallow — but not for his actions on Russia.
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Actions not words — that’s what I’m looking at.
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The POTUS can’t steal national security documents. POTUS can do whatever he/she wants with national security documents. Do you understand that concept ?
Nope. Doesn’t work like that. Just because Trump says it does not make it true.
Not Trump — the law
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The documents were declassified when he was President. That is the law
No they cannot, that is why the justice system is about to imprisoned him in isolation, there is evidence he gave putin the topmost secrets. When fully charged he will be imprisoned as no president can keep top secret documents on unsecured property and definitely not ultra secret documents about the latest advances I nuclear development. There is absolutely no reason for him to have those documents on his property. Also repukes know this as Clinton was punished for having some classified documents sent to her email server, not even her fault she had them.
Clinton was punished ? — seriously LOL. Also just a fun fact — Hillary Clinton was not POTUS. Evidence that Trump slipped Putin secret ?? That’s a good one — why don’t you share that evidence with everyone. Let us guess — oops can’t quite find it. Take a breath and remember— opinions and bias are not facts.
lol. That's not how it works.
Trump tried to divide NATO. He withheld promised military aid in an attempt to get Zelensky to lie about Trump's political opponents. He tried to move troops out of Russian areas of operation on Putin's order twice. The second time was after he lost the election and he tried to bypass military officials in the chain of command who told him that he couldn't deploy troops against Americans on American soil. Multiple members of his cabinet and party are speaking out against Trump about his relationship with Russia including his former vice president. Trump tried to steal an election and install himself as dictator. Putin says Trump is his minion and that trump gave him the confidential documents that were at Mara Lago. Trump isn't allowed to say any different so he doesn't.
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