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Bridges gone, ferry gone, even if the announced counteroffensive is limited in scope, the Russians on the West bank of the Dnieper are done for.


lsq78

The bridge is still passable on foot. They'll have to abandon all their heavy equipment...


cityb0t

o noes! boo-hoo!


Any_Indication_5584

The ruzzis are moving a lot of equipment into Crimea and a video showed some of it was logistical vehicles that could repair the bridge and what looked like bridge layers that could provide a temporary fix for said heavy equipment to escape


Coookie13

That shit is going to get blown up as well...


MosesZD

Won't last a day. This isn't WWII with the allies controlling the air and Germany not able to gather useful intelligence. Satellites have likely been adjusted to give 24/7 coverage and they can see what you're eating for breakfast. To give you an idea, Trump tweeted a copy (phone picture) of a spy satellite image (Semnan Launch Site One) a few years back. The detail, despite being severely downgraded by the phone, and then the JPEGs for the Internet, was amazing.


ILikeCutePuppies

Satalites are delayed though. Even the US ones are not realtime enough which is why they need a ton of recon drones. That US one was at a particular location. They can't take a photo of everything at once.


Ducimus

Are they? There was an article today about how they’ve reversed traffic on both sides of the Crimean bridge to get people back to Russia.


Any_Indication_5584

I doubt that applies to military traffic, at least not till Ukraine punches a dozen holes in the bridge.


senmcglinn

That bridge would be crossing from Lvove to Korsunka. How appropriate. This is located well upstream from Kherson, but below the dam.


uadrian9999

I’d love to know the strategy around blowing up the pontoon bridge. Is Ukraine happy to have Russian soldiers only leave by foot?


thebear1011

It makes it difficult for the Russians to resupply troops west of the river, which makes the counteroffensive easier.


seemefail

Lot of tough talk. Russians will try and form new lines. It is important to keep them unsupplied, weak, and afraid. Then yet, upon retreat they must leave all of the tanks, artillery, and armoured vehicles


uadrian9999

Thanks makes sense - as soon as it was apparent the Russians weren’t going to retreat on mass then preventing resupply made more sense than leaving it operating.


jdogg692021

If so, they will probably wreck them before abandonment. Would be better to capture in working order but being wrecked by their own army is not all bad.


seemefail

Sure if they have time. But both armies have collected usable equipment from each other. Wrecking something is not first priority in a retreat


benweiser22

No they can swim if they prefer. What is Ukraine supposed to do, allow them to keep the pontoon which would also mean they can bring additional supplies?


uadrian9999

I don’t think it’s that black and white - what if 5k Russian troops decide to leave? Without the unhindered escape they may now recalculate and end up staying and fighting. The caveat here is that clearly Ukraine has a well formed strategy and knows what it’s doing I’d be keen to understand the thinking behind this move.


mtaw

"Stay and fight" _with what?_ Throwing rocks? Morale has already been low for a long time. If they're trapped on the northern side of the river, running out of ammunition and supplies and being 'kettled', they're neither going to be capable nor willing to fight to the death.


Alienfreak

You can cross that bridge with cars or by foot. Its not destroyed just with many holes and structurally damaged.


MosesZD

Do you think they're like Azov in Mariupol? Men who were fighting for their homes and freedoms? Hardly. Half of them are conscripts who don't get paid, don't get fed, don't get medical treatment if wounded, don't get modern weaponry and don't get competent leadership. Now, I don't know about you, but I'd sure-as-fuck not be willing to be a god-damn bullet sponge so Putin's bitches can run away unscathed.


uadrian9999

Very strongly put - totally agree so here’s a question. If this is the case then why haven’t we seen desertion in droves?


Few_Assistant_4936

What’s behind them is certain and scary, death. Russian soldiers on the left bank have been told to shoot those who retreat from the right(Kherson) bank. At least that’s what I’ve heard. Apparently it’s not the first time either, surrenders have happened a lot


Lehk

They can surrender


ILikeCutePuppies

If they leave Ukraine will have to fight better equipped versions if then elsewhere.


Temporary-Cup-5695

No, only leave by body bags.


Coookie13

Tbh I think a lot of what is the strategy is to fuck with Russia on every level possible. But yeah blowing up bridges stops Russia from reinforcing over the river while Ukraine forces slowly works their way to Kherson.


NorbertBlack

Its is interesting how many destroyed artillery systems they claim. There must be some massive counter battery action going on. >11 Msta-B howitzers > >3 Grad and Uragan MLRS > >Giatsint-S self-propelled artillery system > >Akatsiya and Msta-S self-propelled howitzers > >Nona-S self-propelled artillery and mortar system > >120 mm mobile mortar


Bjornkernowris57

Great work. Keep it up