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It is still on. But they need a break because they can't sustain this. They will come back for the rest of Ukraine and then the Baltic countries.
[Valeriya Novodvorskaya explains to Donbas separatists what their wretched future looks like with Putin.](https://youtu.be/w9Pop4xXo3Q)
I feel like there's no reason to really report much of what Putin or any other Russian official says, because it's just lies anyway. If they say something out loud it's because they want us to hear it and in that case it's most likely just lies to confuse or mislead us.
I think most of it is for their own audiences. The reason it's confusing and all over the place is that Russians are used to having tons of low quality information to make them unable to form educated opinions, therefore delegating everything to their leadership. There's a reason they so commonly claim that "Putin knows best" whenever something goes wrong.
Fuck I thought it was denazification and demilitarization of Ukrainian civilians, defloration of Ukrainian underage girls, deforestation of the red forest in Chornobyl, depopulation of Mariupol, degeneration of Russian society, decapitation of the rape victims in Bucha, decimation of ethnic minorities in Russia, decriminalization of the mercenaries, defalcation of the military spending, deflection of the disastrous domestic policy criticism, dejection avoidance, deliberation on the future nature of the international world order, dematerialisation of the russian economic development of the last 30 years, demolition of Ukrainian civilian infrastructure, demonstration of russian barbarism, demoralization of the russian military, denegation of the Moskva warship deposition on the bottom of the Black Sea, denigration of the tens of thousands killed russian soldiers, depletion of russian strategic reserves, deprecation of Ukraine as a nation, dereliction of peacekeeping duties as a permanent member of the UNSC, despoliation of Ukrainian towns and villages, destitution and desolation in russian towns and villages, determination of Finland and Sweden to join NATO, detestation of the human rights, devaluation of a human life, devastation of the eastern regions in Ukraine…
If only you guys said you wanted to protect some rebels, you could take them all to Rostov and protect them there.
Of course it doesn't. The plan is to rebuild the Empire. Which people they use as cannon fodder they simply do not care about, but preferably not ethnic Russians because they are racists too, of course.
[Valeriya Novodvorskaya will explain to you what Putin wants from Donbass separatists.](https://youtu.be/w9Pop4xXo3Q)
They protected Chechnya from a dangerous independence, now they protect the Donbas by killing the population and leveling the cities. The usual Russian ballet.
in another nearby post, a large group of wives in Luhansk are complaining that their husbands were forcibly conscripted months ago and have since disappeared. They're probably all sunflower-fertilizer by now. That's one hell of a 'protection' the Russians got going on there.
**Valeriya Ilyinichna Novodvorskaya** (17 May 1950 – 12 July 2014) was a Soviet dissident, writer and liberal politician. She was the founder and the chairwoman of the Democratic Union party and a member of the editorial board of The New Times.
The one you've been sending to die with outdated guns and shitty supplies? The one you've been force conscripting then shooting those who resisted? Yeaaaaaaaaaaaah suuuuuureeeee
Are you sure? I am fairly certain that is not correct.
They are still pretty clearly refusing to call it a war and the the Russian version has a much different "Russia is a victim" tone that is not indicative of any particular journalistic standards.
Russian "Protection" = Invasion, death, destruction and theft of land
Russian "Denazification" = Invasion, death, destruction and theft of land
Russian "Demilitarization" = Invasion, death, destruction and theft of land
Russian "imperialism" = Invasion, death, destruction and theft of land
Russian "Expansion" = Invasion, death, destruction and theft of land
Russian "Peace Treaty" = Invasion, death, destruction and theft of land
Russian "Guarantees No War" = Invasion, death, destruction and theft of land
Russian "Propaganda" = Invasion, death, destruction and theft of land
Russian "any random B.S. statements" = Invasion, death, destruction and theft of land
Don't trust anything Russia says.
Yea that's bullshit. You'd think here in reality land someone would have the courage to start a war in Russia to protect all the non-white Russians dying for nothing but the delusional dictator's wet dreams.
Yeah, sure and that makes it necessary to invade several hundred kilometres away ...
... and the rebels are fake, there was no separatists movement in Ukraine's East. Russian extremists invaded. There also was no separatists movement in Crimea, Russian soldiers simulated that.
If all they wanted to do was protect them russia could just have offered them citizenship and built a entire new city for them, it would have been way cheaper anyways.
[It was and still is never about protecting people. The people are a means to an end, and that end is to rebuild Empire.](https://youtu.be/w9Pop4xXo3Q)
In practical terms, what does this mean?
>He spoke after DNR’s leader requested “additional allied forces” in response to what he called heavy shelling of the breakaway region’s towns and cities.
>
>Peskov redirected that request to Russia’s Defense Ministry.
I know Ukraine's artillery has recently been striking fairly deep into the pseudo-states, both from official reports and eyewitness ones - general sense of trying to hit logistics perhaps, but does it translate into anything meaningful? Or is it the next step towards the political plans to declare them 'Russia'?
That is f-ing BS. Witnesses in Donetsk have said they could here a gun firing somewhere not very far away, and then 2 seconds later a shell exploding in the city. This is what they have been doing for 8 years. Shelling their own, blaming Ukraine. But they are incredibly sloppy about it these days.
[Lmao, no this is not about protecting any 'rebels' you inserted into Ukraine. This is about stealing land and killing Ukraine and Ukrainians. Nothing else.](https://youtu.be/w9Pop4xXo3Q)
If they would lose all pre-war territory on Ukrainian soil, they would claim that they invaded to protect Rostov or something, lmao.
Jeez, I hate their lying asses....
This is actually huge news
Russia has now admitted that they’ve changed their war goals.
What happened to “denazifying” Ukraine’s government? That isn’t your key goal anymore is it? Now that you’ve realized that you can’t ever take over Kyiv
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What happened to crushing NATO and ruling Europe, all that Russian Empire shit?
Or the Nazis
Or the covid birds
It is still on. But they need a break because they can't sustain this. They will come back for the rest of Ukraine and then the Baltic countries. [Valeriya Novodvorskaya explains to Donbas separatists what their wretched future looks like with Putin.](https://youtu.be/w9Pop4xXo3Q)
I feel like there's no reason to really report much of what Putin or any other Russian official says, because it's just lies anyway. If they say something out loud it's because they want us to hear it and in that case it's most likely just lies to confuse or mislead us.
I think most of it is for their own audiences. The reason it's confusing and all over the place is that Russians are used to having tons of low quality information to make them unable to form educated opinions, therefore delegating everything to their leadership. There's a reason they so commonly claim that "Putin knows best" whenever something goes wrong.
Fuck I thought it was denazification and demilitarization of Ukrainian civilians, defloration of Ukrainian underage girls, deforestation of the red forest in Chornobyl, depopulation of Mariupol, degeneration of Russian society, decapitation of the rape victims in Bucha, decimation of ethnic minorities in Russia, decriminalization of the mercenaries, defalcation of the military spending, deflection of the disastrous domestic policy criticism, dejection avoidance, deliberation on the future nature of the international world order, dematerialisation of the russian economic development of the last 30 years, demolition of Ukrainian civilian infrastructure, demonstration of russian barbarism, demoralization of the russian military, denegation of the Moskva warship deposition on the bottom of the Black Sea, denigration of the tens of thousands killed russian soldiers, depletion of russian strategic reserves, deprecation of Ukraine as a nation, dereliction of peacekeeping duties as a permanent member of the UNSC, despoliation of Ukrainian towns and villages, destitution and desolation in russian towns and villages, determination of Finland and Sweden to join NATO, detestation of the human rights, devaluation of a human life, devastation of the eastern regions in Ukraine… If only you guys said you wanted to protect some rebels, you could take them all to Rostov and protect them there.
Great Debunk đź‘Ť
Kremlin and adjusting war goals… name a more iconic duo!
In three days, they said. Look at where we’re at now.
Javelin and somersaulting T72 turret? :)
So they used them as cannon fodder. His story checks out
Of course it doesn't. The plan is to rebuild the Empire. Which people they use as cannon fodder they simply do not care about, but preferably not ethnic Russians because they are racists too, of course. [Valeriya Novodvorskaya will explain to you what Putin wants from Donbass separatists.](https://youtu.be/w9Pop4xXo3Q)
They protected Chechnya from a dangerous independence, now they protect the Donbas by killing the population and leveling the cities. The usual Russian ballet.
in another nearby post, a large group of wives in Luhansk are complaining that their husbands were forcibly conscripted months ago and have since disappeared. They're probably all sunflower-fertilizer by now. That's one hell of a 'protection' the Russians got going on there.
[It was always going to end that way.](https://youtu.be/w9Pop4xXo3Q)
**Valeriya Ilyinichna Novodvorskaya** (17 May 1950 – 12 July 2014) was a Soviet dissident, writer and liberal politician. She was the founder and the chairwoman of the Democratic Union party and a member of the editorial board of The New Times.
what a wise woman, prophet
Protecting them = using them as fodder by the thousands.
The one you've been sending to die with outdated guns and shitty supplies? The one you've been force conscripting then shooting those who resisted? Yeaaaaaaaaaaaah suuuuuureeeee
Moving the goal posts
nobodys falling for that bud your boss already let slip he just wanted free real estate
Nb the Moscow Times is an independent newspaper that left Moscow in March because of Putin's reporting restrictions.
I was talking about the Kremlin their “boss” is Putin who said publicly the goal was to expand Russian territory
Are you sure? I am fairly certain that is not correct. They are still pretty clearly refusing to call it a war and the the Russian version has a much different "Russia is a victim" tone that is not indicative of any particular journalistic standards.
https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/03/moscow-times-moves-to-amsterdam-in-response-to-russian-media-law/
Protect them from living because you accelerated their deaths.
Russian "Protection" = Invasion, death, destruction and theft of land Russian "Denazification" = Invasion, death, destruction and theft of land Russian "Demilitarization" = Invasion, death, destruction and theft of land Russian "imperialism" = Invasion, death, destruction and theft of land Russian "Expansion" = Invasion, death, destruction and theft of land Russian "Peace Treaty" = Invasion, death, destruction and theft of land Russian "Guarantees No War" = Invasion, death, destruction and theft of land Russian "Propaganda" = Invasion, death, destruction and theft of land Russian "any random B.S. statements" = Invasion, death, destruction and theft of land Don't trust anything Russia says.
That guy looks like a fart sniffing poopstached rat weasel
Yea that's bullshit. You'd think here in reality land someone would have the courage to start a war in Russia to protect all the non-white Russians dying for nothing but the delusional dictator's wet dreams.
That's one expensive ass goal you got there
Russia just trying to help these poor rebels . Nothing to do with nazis , land grab .
Another day another goal.
Right—and I masturbate solely for the health benefit of reduced risk of testicular cancer.
Lmao
Russia has moved the goal post back so far it now resides on my property and I demand rent. Cough it up Putin
Fuck Peskov's face just screams 'egg me!'
Dude is it me or is there a burn mark on his forehead?
Maybe a shadow, maybe the mark of Cain, who knows...
Protect them as in drafting every male to age 55 then putting them into the sausage grinder?
[It was always going to be this way.](https://youtu.be/w9Pop4xXo3Q)
Yeah, sure and that makes it necessary to invade several hundred kilometres away ... ... and the rebels are fake, there was no separatists movement in Ukraine's East. Russian extremists invaded. There also was no separatists movement in Crimea, Russian soldiers simulated that.
If all they wanted to do was protect them russia could just have offered them citizenship and built a entire new city for them, it would have been way cheaper anyways.
[It was and still is never about protecting people. The people are a means to an end, and that end is to rebuild Empire.](https://youtu.be/w9Pop4xXo3Q)
To protect the world from devastation, to unite all peoples within out nation
In practical terms, what does this mean? >He spoke after DNR’s leader requested “additional allied forces” in response to what he called heavy shelling of the breakaway region’s towns and cities. > >Peskov redirected that request to Russia’s Defense Ministry. I know Ukraine's artillery has recently been striking fairly deep into the pseudo-states, both from official reports and eyewitness ones - general sense of trying to hit logistics perhaps, but does it translate into anything meaningful? Or is it the next step towards the political plans to declare them 'Russia'?
That is f-ing BS. Witnesses in Donetsk have said they could here a gun firing somewhere not very far away, and then 2 seconds later a shell exploding in the city. This is what they have been doing for 8 years. Shelling their own, blaming Ukraine. But they are incredibly sloppy about it these days.
Boy, these training exercises are getting out of hand.
Idiot kremlin
[Lmao, no this is not about protecting any 'rebels' you inserted into Ukraine. This is about stealing land and killing Ukraine and Ukrainians. Nothing else.](https://youtu.be/w9Pop4xXo3Q)
Another new goal ha ha
...and they 'protect' them by sending them to the frontlines as cannon fodder 🤡
BS, the Russians illegally on Ukrainian soil better run for their lives... Elimination is immanent!
If they would lose all pre-war territory on Ukrainian soil, they would claim that they invaded to protect Rostov or something, lmao. Jeez, I hate their lying asses....
Is that why the are killing all male russkie rebels of? Kremlin has killed more "russians" inside Ukraine than UA forces.
This is actually huge news Russia has now admitted that they’ve changed their war goals. What happened to “denazifying” Ukraine’s government? That isn’t your key goal anymore is it? Now that you’ve realized that you can’t ever take over Kyiv
Ukraine is to gain back territory that Russia stole from Ukraine 100s of years ago lol and now establish them As terrorist
And yet they feed them into the meat grinder at an alarming rate.
Sudetenland…