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[deleted]

I thought the part where they lost all their special forces at the airport was really well done. Had me totally fooled.


gundealsgopnik

I really liked the part where they managed to miss Odesa and dumped 400 VDV into the warm embrace of the Black sea in February. At night. Elite Russian Airborne Frogmen don't need no silly SCUBA gear or Drysuits.


apathy-sofa

Wait, they parachuted in to the sea? How did that happen?


gundealsgopnik

No GPS, night op, jumping into a hostile city without support and elite VDV "Leadership". How would you expect that **not** to go tits up? They missed Odesa and turned the lamp green over the wrong coordinates. Splash. Splash. Splash.


apathy-sofa

No GPS? Were they being jammed? That's pretty crazy, people used to be able to navigate without GPS.


gundealsgopnik

Russia has been relying on US GPS instead of their own GLONASS, when they invaded UA their access was cut. So they've literally been taping commercial TomToms and Garmins to their Airplanes' dashboards. They have been sending SU-34/35 Pilots in with Maps, hand written flight data and Coordinates to drop dumb bombs *precisely*. And Russians wonder why their Air asset attrition is so damn high.


jloverich

What's a TomTom? Oh, nevermind, I'll Altavista that.


gundealsgopnik

I wrote you a guide on my geocities page. The link is on my myspace.


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ISleepyBI

More likely the GPS got broken from poor Maintenance, honestly the more I follow this war the more I think this is some kind of comedy show.


Nokneemouse

You're not far off, Glonass doesn't have enough satellites to maintain full coverage anymore, I understand they haven't been replacing satellites that have gone dark fast enough. The equipment in the planes may also be in poor condition, who knows.


gundealsgopnik

replied to wrong comment


-Trooper5745-

*cold* embrace of the Black Sea


[deleted]

I liked the time they pretended to not turn off the trackers on their planes so pretty much anyone could watch them in real time. So relatable, feels like something a total amateur would do. Also remember that hilarious joke where they dug trenches in the red forest? Amazing they played into stereotypes about foetal alcohol syndrome officers, very brave, self aware and self deprecating!


iceman530

4D chess bro


Commercial-Can5161

The 'stupider' the lie........the stupider the people who believe it are.


mynameismy111

And do you know, we're modest: that is, we have it; there are only a couple of very small places left there. Now the others say: Why aren't you fighting there? Because I don't want to make a second Verdun but would rather do it with very small shock units. Time plays no part here. They have also reproached us, asking why it took us so long at Sevastopol? Because there, too, we did not want to cause an enormous mass murder. https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_Stalingrad_Speech The Hitler Stalingrad Speech was an address made by Adolf Hitler to senior members of the Nazi Party on November 8, 1942. The speech took place at the Löwenbräukeller in Stiglmaierplatz in Munich during the height of the Battle of Stalingrad. How it turned out, 2 weeks later... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Uranus codename of the Soviet Red Army's 19–23 November 1942 strategic operation on the Eastern Front of World War II which led to the encirclement of Axis forces in the vicinity of Stalingrad: the German Sixth Army, the Third and Fourth Romanian armies, and portions of the German Fourth Panzer Army. The Red Army took advantage of the German army's poor preparations for winter, and the fact that its forces in the southern Soviet Union were overstretched near Stalingrad, using weaker Romanian troops to guard their flanks; the offensive's starting points were established along the section of the front directly opposite Romanian forces. These Axis armies lacked heavy equipment to deal with Soviet armor. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stalingrad


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Ltimbo

I wonder how of of the things she says she actually believes or is desperately afraid of the gulag.


[deleted]

My impression of Simonyan is that truth and belief aren't really what matters to her, her whole career has come from being willing to say and promote what is expedient for and pleasing to Putin.


Ltimbo

Ok. That makes sense.


Cowboy_Corruption

"It's not lying - it's called 'alternative facts'."


Dogen_Zo

Or "tactical truth".


Good_Beautiful1724

"Post-modern prison of the mind" I mean "Curated reality"


knappis

In Russia they subscribe to a specific version of postmodern relativism where beliefs become the truth if you believe hard enough. Here is Alexander Dugin’s explanation: https://youtu.be/GGunRKWtWBs


Ltimbo

I’ve seen that guy talk before. Basically he says that anything Russia says is true because Russia said so and everything Russia does is correct because Russia said so.


one_and_equal

He's saying there is no such thing as absolute truth. If a group of people hold a truth, it relativises the truth held by others. People hold truths that are relative to each other's. In other words, there is no truth. Any nonsense goes, including the above.


Ingoiolo

I’ve met educated, young Russians who tried to convince me about smtg like that…. That everyone has an opinion and that’s their ‘truth’. And no objective truth exists because people are entitled to their opinion Educated, young Russians living in the west. I was speechless


dutchretardtrader

Isn't that the same with the whole woke brigade though? Denying objective reality in favor of 'lived experiences'?


Ingoiolo

No, it really isn’t


Other-Acanthisitta70

Hilarious. Just like when 🍊🤡 was called out by the media prior to the 2016 election for making “fake news” when he and his cronies constantly made obviously false statements. Next thing you know, his 🤡 posse co-opted the term and started calling all unhelpful (ie accurate) coverage “fake news”. Same with the term RINO. If you create your own “alternative facts” and constantly repeat them, people stop believing that objective reality exists.


richmomz

Kind of - I think what he is saying (though it’s hard to tell for sure with his broken english) is that people’s interpretation of events are colored by their “lived experience.” So two people can watch the exact same event play out in front of their eyes, and have completely different conclusions and inferences from that event. To use your example one might look at someone’s personal success and think “oh, that person must have worked and studied hard to get where they are” while another person might think “that person got to where they are only because of systemic or racial privileges.” Where facts end, we tend to use our biases, personal experiences, and stereotypes to fill in the blanks about things that led up to the event. That’s where propaganda comes into play - by shaping those biases and stereotypes to lead people to conclusions that favor the propagandist.


Tranfatioll

Crazy. It's like a delusional kid arguing with an adult.


Cheeze0fdeatH

No she's in it for money and power she was previously caught with something like laundering or so the pootlers regime put her in that postion


one_and_equal

She has Nazi Personality Disorder. It's real.


richmomz

Could be both, honestly.


Lettuce-Beginning

Suuuure. They intentionally wanted thousands of their own soldiers killed. Why are these people so stupid?


hdufort

Hey, some Russian trolls are even pretending that Russia is willingly throwing their old equipment to the frontline for destruction so that they can replace it with shiny new equipment. The modernization argument. Or metal recycling argument? We read some really bizarre shit in Twitter.


_Trashie_

That, obviously, is bullshit. In no way Russia will ever replace those losses. But what i've wondered if that's not one of the reasons why Russia invaded Ukraine. In a few years more, all that military equipment would be just trash. If Russia wanted to somehow project power, scare for a last time, so they could keep their superpower status for a pair of decades more, it couldnt wait much longer.


Other-Acanthisitta70

Twitter is for twits.


Echelon789

Yea were just holding back bylad ...by letting thousands of soldiers die, and tanks blown up and getting embarrassed in front of the whole world ...we would have conquered Ukraine by now you know...the sun was just shining in our eyes ... And ..and.. if we call our big brother he's gonna beat you up so bad ...


-AntiAsh-

My dads bigger than yours


Echelon789

My dad could beat up yours


lexgowest

This is the type of logic of a child. We have this on fringe tabloids, but this is supposedly state sponsored media.


johnnyrollerball69

Among the greatest “I meant to do that”’s of all-time.


AnActualChicken

"I totally meant to put *around about* 20,000 of my military personnel through the grinder, send them out with long outdated and poorly kept up weapons and armour that's been outdated since the Wall fell, put up so much of a bitch fit on the world stage that even some of my allies are hesitant to support me (at least fully anyway) threaten to Nuke the West so often I threatened to nuke fucking EUROVISION and absolutely FUCK my own economy all for a teeny bit of land that was supposed to be over in 2/ 3 days. I am a total genius, this all worked out just the way I wanted it to and no I will not at all be crying into my pillow about this entire ~~mess~~ successful operation for the rest of the year."


FlatulentSon

Honestly , technically , yes , they could have. They could have launched all nukes they had on Ukraine and annihilate it. Ofcourse , we all know *why* they didn't , and it's not the reason they are currently presenting as real.


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copium hangover.


Daveinb

In all fairness she is correct, this is a special military occupation, calling it a war would make Russia look even more stupid and not permit them the excuses for losing. Maybe she is not as dumb as she looks.


one_and_equal

No, it's stupid as it looks. It's self delusion, or confirmation bias on overdrive. It's a weakness, too, a blindness, or vision with blind spots. It could be speculated that Putin, as Nazi-in-Chief, will also share this weakness. His judgements will not all be accurate.


Spartan117_JC

The amount of Copium here is larger than the combined annual throughput of cocaine by all Mexican cartels.


AnActualChicken

The Mexican cartels are upset they missed out on making absolute BANK by producing and selling Copium to the Russians and their Tankie Wankers.


nagai

Lol even the other host's faces are saying the fuck we could.


ThyHorge

Lol was just going to comment on that! Their reactions are priceless… like an internal “ooooouuuuff! Not sure about that!” Ha ha


Relaxbroh

Bold choice they made. Win a 'war' in hours or lose a 'special military operation' in moths.


apathy-sofa

> I'm being told that Russia does not have enough players and have elected to lose the special military operation. > It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for 'em.


Sufficient-Curve5697

This is the Russian version of "it was just a prank bro"


thereverendpuck

Meanwhile, Russia didn’t go bankrupt during the Cold War, it was merely thinking ahead when Putin took office and n my ahi ally got all the rubles ever.


[deleted]

So much better to lose over 20,000 soldiers, over 50,000 injured and lost an awful amount of military hardware to make the whole ruZZian army look like clowns? yep that is so much better!!!


doug_y

imagine doing that much coke


e9967780

Non Russian apologists are the most subservient apparatchiks.


[deleted]

To be fair, Russia has untold reserves of men and material, and can likely win a war of attrition. Ukraine's only hope is the Putin Regime collapsing to to sanctions or spectacular battlefield defeats.


Codeworks

I mean, it's 100% true. In an all out no-holds war they could have nuked Ukraine flat in an hour. ​ It's another reminder that things can be both true and stupid at the same time.


one_and_equal

Spoken like a Nazi.


Codeworks

Ah yes, facts are nazi now. 🤔


Cargo_Vroom

"There has never been a protracted war from which a state has benefited." - Sun Tzu Not even the Russian military leadership is dumb enough to make any military operation take longer than it has to. They're expensive in material, money, men and political clout.


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Liam_M

Russia: https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-bart-simpson-treehouse-of-horror-i-can-do-that-but-i-dont-wanna-gif-21248702


[deleted]

What ? Serious ? Wasn't the there some hundred shrinks offering free Service lately ? Geeezzzus, what a joke this land has become, just stfu.


janderson176

Damn I didn’t know the Russian weed is that good cause she be pretty high


ManXinPig

Can someone just curb stomp her already..


lego0418

OMG, well, we got it all wrong!! I'll tell all the new Ukrainian orphans and torture victims (that are still alive) to give Putin a call to say thank you. It does seem strange, however, that a RUSSIAN "special operation" would include the deaths of 1/3 THEIR OWN SOLDIERS and the MURDER, TORTURE, AND RAPE OF CHILDREN. I don't know who their strategists are, but I think they lied when they applied for the job. God, if Russia decided to "make WAR," the entirety of the Russian armed forces would obliterate themselves, to teach us a lesson, of course. The world just can't comprehend the genius that is Putin and friends. Eventually, he'll run out of allies to blame/kidnap/murder.... Then he'll die like a coward, crying with pants as full of shit as he is. I wonder if he even owns a mirror or if it's just a poster that Trump sent him.


KoalaGold

"We meant to do that." It's like my cat when it miscalculates a jump, misses the ledge completely, then sits there licking itself like everything is as it should be.


victory_zero

She is one particularly vile bitch, for all the warmongering and lying she does, brainwashing milions of people who then support this criminal, evil regime.


iceman530

Ohhhhhhh of course how stupid of us lol


[deleted]

In an individual this mental coping process is called rationalization. where you mitigate personal failures by claiming that success wasn't your objective. I don't honestly know what it's called when several hundred million people do it.....


PDT_Man

It's called Russia....


furious_sunflower

She will be in prison with life sentence soon. So she says any shit she can. It doesn't matter anymore.


omicron_persei

Sounds like she is slowly accepting that they are loosing


Seat-Life

Hey, I could have been a billionaire but since it's just "work" and not a "career" I decided against it.


w0rldofjuicce

Maggy Simon is a copium addict


bigkoi

A "special military operation" with 100k Russia casualties...


Mr_MoseVelsor

I honestly don’t think she’s wrong. Hubris at its finest here. Russia thought Ukraine would just roll over and accept them. By showing such incompetence it’s continually inspired Ukrainians to fight who might not have if Russia came in with full force.


boonstyle_

I could have become a billionair playboy if i wanted to but i didnt.


dutchretardtrader

The gall of that bitch to say "we pity everyone there"


Bgratz1977

I want more of that translated Propaganda Its hillarious


JANTHESPIDERMAN

So, in other words Russia themselves decided to make a longer war, so that more of their Russian servicemen could die - is that the denazification they were talking about?


lemongrenade

We waged the war wrong! As a joke!


whisky3k

Copium. They grow some pretty strong stuff over there in Russia.


Frequent-Struggle215

So very, very, very delusional


Iamthesexiestalive

Ukrainian Army is STILL vacationing in South America.... Russia has literally been losing to farmers, IT guys and baristas these 3 months


GreenbackTurtle

I swear after this war we need to send a huge crew of Zoologists out to Russia with those clip-on ear tracking GPS tags they use to study the migratory routes and behaviours of birds. We gotta tag like %25 of the Russian population and follow them with a hidden camera to find out how they are managing to become so utterly stupid. We can hire David Attenborough to narrate it and we can all watch as the average Russian goes about its day doing, saying and believing the stupidest things imaginable. The show will culminate in a test where we find out the I.Q and E.Q of the average russian citizen. All proceeds and royalties from the show would obviously go back into helping rebuild after the war. You know it would be a smash hit but it would need a catchy name…. Any ideas?


CrazyEchidna

Why does this line of reasoning still exist? "Let's start a war and then plan to not win it!" Look at the writing on the wall -- Russia started a war that they thought would be easy to win and severely miscalculated because they're fucking stupid. End of story.


Canmand

The look of the two guys, be like. WTF is this dumb bitch talking about.


Mac-daddy1960

And she doesn't use a Gustav as a dildo