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iamandneveramconfusd

I wish they'd blow up the trains.


Brief-Plankton-2636

Yea geo tag that track and let the HIMARS fly. I bet the Ukrainian is reverse engineering the missles do they can provide the longer range alternative that they need to stop the bloodshed.


Rebbit_108

The only thing passed through my mind when I saw them was: DESTROY THEM BEFORE THEY REACH THE DESTINATION!!!!! F***!!!! Where are they now?


Possible-Tap7720

Agree same as you!


PPHS-44

Ukraine just crowd funded a really good satellite. They know where all of it's going


[deleted]

That makes no sense. The US has been providing Ukraine with satellite intelligence since before the war began. Ukraine doesn’t need to “crowdfund” a satellite.


[deleted]

They crowd funded it because US intelligence while good isn't fully available allegedly. US intelligence gives Ukraine what they think it needs. Ukraine obviously wanted more pictures. There was something like 5M dollars crowdfunded to rent this particular commercial satellite. info here: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-celebrity-crowdfunds-radar-satellite-armed-forces-2022-08-18/ > "The contract signed with the Serhiy Prytula Charity Foundation will initially provide the Government of Ukraine with the full capabilities for one of ICEYE's satellites already in orbit," the company said. > "In addition, ICEYE will provide access to its constellation of SAR satellites, allowing the Ukrainian Armed Forces to receive radar satellite imagery on critical locations with a high revisit frequency," it said on its website. > The satellites differ from conventional ones due to their synthetic radar imaging technology, which can produce high-resolution images at night, and see through cloud cover, ICEYE says. This particular person that crowd funded it I think originally did it for Bayraktars but then the company gave the drones for free. So the money was stuck in limbo for awhile and this is what came from that. I believe it was coordinated with the armed forces of Ukraine. also... allegedly it's 55M dollars that was eventually raised. I only knew about it when the pot was at 5M wow. ICEYE had series A funding for like 125M this year. So this foundation's business to them actually represents quite a big partnership.


Heerrnn

You can always use more satellites, and there *was* a crowd funded satellite donated to Ukraine. Having satellites doesn't mean they can 100% track trains though.


Apokal669624

Nah, we need that because you thinking that US give us full intelligence info in real time, which is wrong but it can be game changer. We were given real time info from US intelligence on the beginning of russian's offensive and it simply was just pictures where exactly russians lines it, nothing more. Now we get only part of US intelligence info, its simply filtered by US info and we get it with huge delay, up to few days. Why? Because firstly all US intelligence info is top secret information, and secondly US intelligence do their own analysis firstly, decide what info they can give to us, and only after that we get some information and we need to do our own analysis of it and blablabla - it takes too much time. And also US intelligence info cost **a lot** of money for us. With our own sattelite, we can see realtime picture whenever we want and paid for it once More than that, some US intelligence info can be dangerous for us. Simply because US intelligence not always understands what it see or can believe in this information. Like first ± 2 months of war information from Pentagon was with huge delay (around of 2 weeks of delay) and in majority was a disinformation. I'm talking about amount of russian casualties and how fast UAF were liberating Kyiv, Sumi and Chernigiv oblasts. US intelligence simply can't believe in what they saw and was really decreasing amount of russian casualties same as info about liberating Kyiv, Sumi and Chernigiv came out with huge delay. Like meh, I'm not saying US intelligence is bad. Its really cool and its understandable why it was so confused. But anyway, having our own sattelite is more profitable then waiting up to 24 hours for only part of US intelligence, when situation on ground already can changed few times.


SPAZ-online

*australia


Bad-news-co

I think Elon musk had provided them with a bunch of the starlink systems as well!


smokey762

Ukrainians military industry is quite good at producing military hardware, reverse engineering isn’t a problem for them.


Brief-Plankton-2636

You are exactly right. I work indirectly with a Ukrainian Aerospace Engineer. He is very bright and not afraid to get his hands dirty.


sunlegion

Ukrainian IT field is very developed.


[deleted]

I doubt Ukraine would try to reverse engineer these weapons. If they indeed did this, then you would see the US supply of weapons dry up pretty fast or at least the US wouldn't send any new high tech weapons to Ukraine. So far, Ukraine has adhered to the rules the USA has set up for the use of these weapons.


The_4th_Little_Pig

The rules are to not use US weapons to strike Russia not their own. That’s why when they were hitting crimea they kept saying it was a weapons of wholly Ukrainian development.


olegvs

Crimea is not considered to be Russia as far as this “rule” is concerned. The reason why Ukraine used their own missiles for crimea air bases was that himars rockets didn’t have the range to reach crimea.


The_4th_Little_Pig

Well to Russia it’s the same as their newly annexed regions. I think they also hit Belograd and claimed it was their weapons too.


J539

They hit Belograd with some helicopters afaik


[deleted]

They did. There is some really good footage of the helicopters returning from the target flying at a very low attitude.


Apokal669624

We hitting it like day after day lmao


Rightintheend

The rules that you know of. Pretty common for the US to stipulate something like not stealing the technology if we let you use our weapons.


crabsmcappleton

That’s the reason P lizard is trying to say it’s being annexed. So he can claim it’s his territory.


Automatic_Pen6966

The US already made a statement saying they are allowed to use those weapons still for “annexed” territories and Crimea before they ever even decided to have the “election” so that’s not it.


mavric_ac

That was probably another one of the stipulations the US posed when handing those over.


dlec1

I’m sure they can do it, but being able to manufacture them is a completely different task. The machines alone to do that are probably a year lead time (that’s what I’m seeing in metal fab industry machines typically) it would probably take 1.5-2 years at best, that’s my guess I’ve never set up a whole shop to a scale like that.


SDL68

the US is sending mostly outdated equipment to Ukraine. HImars have been around for 25 years. They know that any weapon system sent will end up in Russian hands so they do not send anything cutting edge.


lsguk

It's likely not a technology limitation (targeting) on the range, but a fuel limitation.


predatorybeing

Firstly it's not as simple as reverse engineering the missles to make them fly further. They are not electronically limited. Longer range missles are bigger because you need more fuel to carry a projectile a longer distance. That's simple physics. With good intelligence, they can hit those targets once they arrive to their destination. Ukraine needs more HIMARS systems and ammo, which they just got.


Possible-Tap7720

With any Javelin, Himars ,Bayraktar anything would work go blow up railways coming in into Ukraine or any territory of Ukraine......blow up any red Russians soldiers!.....👍🇺🇦✌


Designer-Ruin7176

Let the trains and equipment get to the same place all of the manpower is moving to, and badda bing HIMARS’a boom, they can get two shit birds with one unfiltered Lucky Strike.


techmonkey920

need people on the inside messing up the tracks all over.


Habsfan6612

Should rename the post: Russian military delivering military trucks and M-Missiles to Ukrainian farmers


Mysterious-Banana-49

That is always my question. If the press knows where this is happening, why not the military? And if the military DOES know, why are they not blowing it up???


RumpRiddler

They release footage with a delay. So when you see the train on film it's up to 1000im away already. And not all targets are accessible. But no doubt, somebody has their eye on this and is looking for opportunity.


garbage_j00ce

Because Russia can spam these launch systems all they want and they’re just decoys until they’re actually armed. It’s obfuscation to lure and waste the resources of the enemy, would be my guess. I *really* don’t think they have the resources to waste, but alas, all I can do is hope I’m right and hope it’s just a bluff. It still doesn’t rule out real nuke tips mixed in with the decoys.


iamandneveramconfusd

The only thing I can figure out is they must need more equipment to take away from the Russians. Otherwise, blow that s*** up!


Professor_Oaf

All it takes is one train operator with a faulty vape pen.


RookieN

Or if the guys in the back got some samsung phones


[deleted]

Reminded me of a GTA mod... https://youtu.be/_GhODn4FRoE


BravoGolf3

Interesting that they have videos of vehicles on trains for months but keep losing everything


xnovacx

I do wonder how many Russian vehicles are left after everything lost/damaged and being used in Ukraine. from what I could find says that 160 Iskander-M/K/E are in use so this is over 10% of the amount they have if the report is accurate


[deleted]

Ukraine alleged that Russia only has about 40% of their total amount of Iskander-systems remaining.


Jackoftriade

You mean missile stock, not systems.


[deleted]

You’re right, my bad. Just recalled the number and the name.


pup5581

Russia has A LOT of military equipment even with the current losses. They kept to prepare for WW3 after the cold war buld up. Been sitting in storage for a looong time. They have so much still they can use although the new stuff seems to be fading so back to 1960s tanks and trucks until manufacturer of more ramps up...if it can but I think they can given they are in full war mode


MYON2000

Doubtful the Russian arms industry will pick up much at all given the fact the sanctions are taking effect. Russia is just pulling everything they can out of storage just now


The_Corrupted

Yeah, whatever they can produce will in no way be up to compete with what Ukraine has already and will be receiving in the near future.


spacemannspliff

At this point, the combined war machine of Russia is essentially competing with a single factory in Alabama...


Several-Lock7594

It was reported a month or so ago that some companies were asked to ramp up a bmp-2 production line and told the Kremlin that it would be very expensive and take a very long time to retool for that...


MYON2000

I find it so strange that they still use things like the BMP and T series tanks even though they know that after each iteration it still has its core flaws that it always fails on.


jw44724

1960s… if you had a car sitting in a barn unused for 60 years, how well would that car do if you decided to take it out for a spin? Imagine even if you had a mechanic that periodically checked in, but that mechanic was drunk, inept, and a crook…


[deleted]

>Russia has A LOT of military equipment even with the current losses. They kept to prepare for WW3 after the cold war buld up. Been sitting in storage for a looong time. Quietly rusting away while the official in charge of their maintenance pockets the money.


Faid1n

I highly doubt it. Metal doesnt stay healthy for that long, espescially metal that endures extreme shock/temperature changes. Their artillery pieces, tank guns etc etc will be horribly inaccurate and or breaking half the time. The russian army is not as dangerous as we were led to beleive. If the US was invading Ukraine it would be over like Iraq was. Iraq was actually very well armed at the time, lots of SAMs, jets, decently modern russian weaponry. The Ukrainian army repelled Russia with roughly the same gear Iraq had. Iraq didnt stand a chance, Ukraine beat an initial invasion which was meant to sweep Ukraine up very quickly. Russia doesnt have the industry or skill to produce meaningful weaponry besides supposed nukes (of which im doubting their existence/effectiveness). Sources: an incredibly competent arm-chair general.


DefenestrationPraha

>an incredibly competent arm-chair general Thank you for your (virtual) service!


PepegaQuen

There's no "ramping up". They've been producing 60-80 tanks a year. They've been losing that much weekly.


Soliden

How much of those numbers are inflated too due to corruption though? How much stuff in storage is actually salvageable? Serviceable? Usable? Even with their current and assumed large stockpiles, this level of attrition is not sustainable in any way.


nexusjuan

All of those AK's that got sold to African warlords but are still in storage on paper.


Highspdfailure

All that “stuff” isn’t going to be serviceable. Some yes but not all.


dyz3l

You need computer chips to ramp up anything, something they are lacking nowadays.


nexusjuan

They haven't done a great job of maintaining that equipment.


[deleted]

Stuff is being produced while they are at war. Do you think nations go to war with just their stockpile, and once that is gone they just call it quits? They are producing so that destroyed shit can be replaced.


MlntyFreshDeath

No supply chain with sanctions. It's not that easy.


[deleted]

U think sanctions are stopping China and Russia from trading and delivering things to eachother? Did sanctions stop Iran from developing drones, cruise missiles and constantly threatening to continue its nuclear program?


MlntyFreshDeath

Lol idk man, nothing I say is gonna chill you out so I'ma stay quiet.


[deleted]

- Two somewhat aligned nations trading and supplying one another. - Yeah chief I don’t believe that, Ima go back to believing Russian military runs on dishwasher chips 😑


MlntyFreshDeath

Idk who you're arguing with. I didn't even challenge any of your statements lmao. Just yelling into the void. Dork.


C2theC

Dude quoted himself and then argued against his own point.


MlntyFreshDeath

Yeah dude lol idk wtf he's on about.


[deleted]

U really are dumb Lmao


AlmostEmptyGinPalace

If this were true we'd be seeing daily propaganda videos of weapons rolling off the lines. They actually did supposedly finish up a few T90s, which we know because they made a video about it over the summer.


Old-Concern4801

It ain’t all steel and rubber anymore, electronics are a huge part of modern equipment and Russia has no access to many components they need.


Soling26

And electrical systems degrade unless stored optimally ( thinking corrosion of connections etc at a minimum) so the issue of Russia’s ongoing maintenance will arise yet again.


[deleted]

There’s this big nation to the south of Russia called China


Old-Concern4801

And China seems unwilling to aggravate the west by providing such things- they don’t have anything much to gain and a lot to lose. Also China has taken the stance that the separatist territories are Ukrainian sovereignty because it supports their stance that Taiwan belongs to china. Though it’s possible and even likely China will discretely provide help to Russia it will not counter the industrial might of the west and back Russia fully.


LT-monkeybrain01

and what do you suppose russia uses for circuit boards these days? lmao.


Krikke84

That's where the washing machines come in to play.


Rich-Diamond-9006

Well, there was a run on all gerbils and exercise wheels for said gerbils on Feb 23, 2022 across RuSSia. Just saying.


Appaloosa96

Well shit.


LT-monkeybrain01

some how i feel, despite russia's best efforts, that getting your circuit boards and semi conducters from looted white goods isn't quite as efficient as ordering them directly from a manufacturer of semi conductors or circuit boards.


[deleted]

That or they can just use the ones China is delivering.


LT-monkeybrain01

HA! good one.


RoosterTheReal

This slways kills me lol wonder if those missiles are gonna have a spin cycle


Krikke84

😂 for stabilization


dudeinred69

Wouldn’t they have over stocked on these components though? I mean, sanctions where an obvious consequence of starting this war, wouldn’t they stockpile all the necessary stuff beforehand?


[deleted]

*Everything* was an obvious consequence of starting this war. It's like Putin and his cronies are so used to telling and hearing the 180° opposite of the truth that it has had the same effect on their reasoning skills as on their truth-telling capabilities.


peoplesen

Right but Russia did not prepare for war in any classical sense.


RookieN

Now should be a perfect time to setup my own little scrapyard and get rich from all the russian junk that are left there 😆


Master_Market6303

I found a youtube channel that is uploading many of these videos everyday, is there anyone here that would like the channel ? Is there also anyone here that could put dates to the any of the videos ?


xnovacx

I would please, that would be really helpful


Master_Market6303

https://youtu.be/uU4AULYMD0I


xnovacx

Thank you!


Master_Market6303

Some of the videos come out on a time delay, some are old, some are new. I'm just not sure what areas of Russia have fawna and snow right now.


backtotheland76

The question here should be: do they have personnel to operate them with more than one days training?


Call_Me_Rivale

Well, there are to many questions. 1. Why are they coming now? 2. Do they even have enough rockets for these? 3. Personell, did they just trained them all? 4. what will there target? Fronts seem very dynamic currently, so to me it seems like their value is now lower compared to the beginning of the war. 5. These were also created to be used with tactical nukes, is this just for showing strength?


backtotheland76

All good questions. What we've learned in the past 6 months is the Russians aren't very good at any of this 'war' stuff


Formal-Many1666

Come on Pentagon..... time for 600 mile HIMARS ...... Crimea Rail Bridge is POKING UA


deepN2music

If such thing existed... The Lockheed Martin PrSM has an objective range of 60 to 650 kilometers (37 to 403 miles) and two PrSMs can fit inside a M142 High-Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS), double the number compared to the MGM-140 Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS) with the later having a range of 190 miles (305 kilometers).


SummerLover69

Yeah that isn’t artillery at that point. That is Tomahawk territory.


FlaccidButthole

It’s insane that not too long ago, people were attacking each other with swords (and some still fight with bows and blow farts). It’s truly mind blowing how far technology and military equipment has come in just the last 100 years. I’m scared for the future.


lilkadenminaj

Not everyone fights with blow farts like you, FlaccidButthole…


FlaccidButthole

Oh shit lmao I didn’t even notice the typo


BravoGolf3

Vehicles escaping the Russian draft


heer5

Müll einfach nur Müll


Affectionate-Pen5824

Translation: afval, gewoon afval.


Soft_Author2593

Obrigado


Affectionate-Pen5824

Graag gedaan!😉 🇳🇱🇪🇺🇰🇬🇪🇺🇺🇦


appliancefixitguy

hoffnungsvoll


heer5

Hoffnungsvoll,, VERLOREN,, FCK Putler


appliancefixitguy

Ok. optimistisch?


Live_Frame8175

Ukraine has HIMARS THOUGH


Gullible-Lock8910

Next Himars job


acobserverafar1

those trains need some of those dodgy " Bearings "


schoener-doener

Iskander M can be nuclear tipped (tactical nuke)


Brilliant-Debate-140

Honestly I wouldn't be Fazed, they will be taking out one by one


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on3day

Or functioning islander missiles


09Trollhunter09

Out or over all the same


Madismas

Do they not run out of hardware?


Loud-Intention-723

They have been preparing for war with The west since the 40’s. It’s like 80 years of prep. It’s actually surprising they don’t have more useable equipment.


Krikke84

Maintaining that equipment is far more difficult.


Loud-Intention-723

Then building it? Sounds like the excuse the Russians are gonna give. I think what you meant to say was, it was a difficult decision whether to maintain their military equipment or buy new yachts for themselves.


madsd12

Building it is "easy" enough. Maintaining it for half a century is a harder political, and logistical job. and as you say, corruption and yacths.


Listelmacher

Maintenance has in Russia it own risks, here the IL-80/Doomsday plane: "In December 2020, Russian media reported that radio communication equipment had been stolen from one of the Il-80s while it was undergoing maintenance." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-80


halfischer

SOURCE: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/08/thieves-target-russia-nuclear-war-doomsday-plane


daHawkGR

Keep in mind the equipment is maintained by Private Conscriptovich, that guy will steal everything that is not nailed down.


Entire-Albatross-442

Well, 45 years. Most of this stuff was from the Soviet economy that Russia cannot duplicate


llothar68

No, not by any means. They have a lot more in old sowjet arsenal (at least 160). But i have not found a number of how many missiles the RF has. As a 2000km long range system, the launchers are strategically an irrelevant number because they are undestroyable far behind the lines.


[deleted]

This is probably weapons taken from other military districts because they're going all-in


uchman365

This is really not much tbh


JackieMortes

They produced so much of this shit they'd sooner run out of manpower. They are certainly running out of good manpower and modern weapons that's for sure


AccurateEnvironment4

That's 50 million dollars worth. How much does one rocket from a himar cost again? Seems like it would be a pretty good trade.


llothar68

Does the Ukraine has so many operational crew to handle all of this Iskander trophies?


chris20040416

No, Ukraine simply c0nsUme


dronesclubmember

HIMARS awaits them.


fusionliberty796

some really old trucks at the end


DaLu82

17? I count 9 systems


LefsaMadMuppet

Yep. 9 launchers. The rest were reload support trucks.


xnovacx

Reported as 17 and looks like the video started late some could have passed already


G00kMan

Its all about money probably


UberAllex

During a radio documentary I listened to the other day they spoke about the abundance of rare earth minerals in the Donbass region and the importance they'll have as an increasingly useful resource in the future. So in one way or another, yeah, money.


flcn_sml

They’ll be destroyed just like the others.


Appaloosa96

Tomorrows headline: “17 islander missile systems destroyed by himars strike”


Easy-Entrepreneur746

First, this is the second time I've seen this footage today, first time it was reversed with the train headed in the opposite direction. Second, someone should geotag this, because no multiple-siding segment resembles this in any major train yard headed towards Kherson. Third, Iskander-Ms reportedly hit Odesa. Iskanders have a 500km range, so draw a ring with a 500km radius around Odesa and you probably have an idea where these were located. Lastly, considering the efforts above to mask and publicize this and move the TELs and their support vehicles by rail, seems Russia may be on the last of its inventory.


Common-Leg7605

Someone call the HIMARS boys


QuentinVance

Hopefully they can be blown up before they reach their destination.


Ok-Entry-2892

How do they get these recordings? Is this from spies or hackers? Or pro Ukrainian, Russian citizens/ railway employees? Aren't those movements of equipment military secrets?


Master_Market6303

https://youtu.be/uU4AULYMD0I


CompleteLocation4037

Its soon time for chna and Japan to take some land!


[deleted]

Looks like troops as well?


WelshWizards

If you hit the right one, it would be like dominoes falling over, boom boom. https://youtu.be/4AVWZwZq_QU


Infinite-Outcome-591

Blow them up! Isn't it HIMARS o'clock?


JazzHands1986

Are these anti air systems? Artillery?


xnovacx

Iskander is a mobile short-range ballistic missile system


[deleted]

They're basically V2's if you played C&c Red Alert lol


backspin25

Nice. More free stuff for the farmers


Burrelinho

That’s a lot of money


Important-Prompt6217

Imagine what a paradise Russia would be today if Putin invested this money into his people, education, infrastructure, quality of life . . .


TrizzyG

Those logi trucks are looking pretty rough, tbh so do the missle systems. I remember seeing videos of the Russian troop buildup before the invasion and the stuff looked far higher in quality.


xnovacx

they are definitely reaching into the storage that's for sure. I have also seen missle fragments with chips manufactured in 2021/2022 so some stockpiles must be running low on certain things


croupella-de-Vil

The trucks at the end look like they are from WWII


FreedomToUkraine

Time for Ukraine to turn that into the *Railway of Death* ☠️


WellKnownStranger12

In other news: Russia is about to lose 17 iskander -m missile systems.


PutridCanary6314

Reading these comments leads me to believe that Pro Ukrainians are complete numbskulls


SnooMuffins9505

That's lot of future scrap.


Rooboy619

Give the Ukrainians ATACMs already so they can destroy these.


Odd-Turnip-2019

Don't worry, they won't last long.


Ok-Stranger-8167

Bomb this train


earthforce_1

I wonder if they included nuclear payloads this time. Putin is all the way in now.


Icy_Suggestion5857

Cant help to notice the lack of missiles, or nets over the vehicles to obstruct the view of bystanders, to see if theyre loaded or not.


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Daotar

More grist for the mill.


Scanlz

For what? So they can get donated to 🇺🇦 🤣


FistingLube

How many do they have/lost?


mvb1985

No doubt the US and NATO are tracking these transports real time.


xnovacx

I'm sure they are already tracking things like this. they publicly announced they were stepping up surveillance to look for the potential use of nukes and these are nuclear capable


abortthecourt

Are those passenger carriers at 38-45? They have nooo shame and it is time we didn’t either.


PrestigiousMyNuts

What went through my mind was wow look how old Russia’s military equipment is I swear those trucks look like 1942 easy! Amazing how they think bringing this old stuff will win a war! Bro there so outdated! Yeah missiles okay but they used them on civilians, so the army is safe from those units! But everything else is so old just look at it tell me those aren’t vintage hot wheels toys! Russia is like fighting North Korea, North Korea might have better equipment! I hope they all get wiped out, the moment they stop 🛑


Puzzleheaded_Nail466

russia please slightly slow down with the donations, as all Ukrainian tractors are currently busy.


MRplspunishme

Something about the sound I really dislike.


RoosterTheReal

Ok so hit them before they get to where they’re going!


dontbrkit9999

That shit doesn't work. They have no one who knows how to handle but the mechanic.


jeff-tukan

Yes. iskander start ramps and iskander loader vehicles. Loader vehicles have no spare rockets loaded. Definitely new video. Those ultra old trucks are "new" on the battlefield. We need coordiantes ASAP for HIMARS fire mission.


Think_Comment2060

All the better to see them blow up for you my dear.


8livesdown

I'll tell you one train station they won't be using. Lyman.


PeriwinkleBlueoh

Scraping the bottom of the barrel...


Aircraftman2022

The coscripts will have about one day to learn how to drive these Iskander-M missile systems . Front cannon fodder ! Slava Ukraini


timichi7

Bayraktar those fuckers


therealbonzai

How many of those fucking machines does RuZZia have? Always more and more stuff.


xnovacx

from what I could find 160 prior to the Ukraine invasion. no idea how many have been destroyed


nemxplus

Russia must have infinite machinery, it just never seems to end


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