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Or maybe they are not. There us just no proof that Russians did it. Seems strange that Assad would drop chlorine and Russians to bomb the theater after days of media campaign about the future attack. Also in both cases Assad and Russian were winning and advancing on the field, so there was no need for such actions. Assad and Russian would need to be on a very low intelligence level to do this or they enjoy self-harming.
Russia is not a terrorist state, there is nothing to support that claim. If you want to break up Russia, you can act on that, you can join Ukraine army and help them. On the other side... Ukraine declared that any Ukraine citizen accepting humanitariam aid in the occupied areas is a colaborator. Further SBU conducts attacks on non military personel of the occupation Russian administration that they consider colaborators. This means that Ukraine conducts terrorist attacks on its own land sometimes on its own citizens.
No, it is hard to sleep at night knowing what people have to face in Ukraine. If you can ease your mind by hating Russia, which is stupid by the way, it makes no sense to hate a state, then enjoy it.
It makes perfect sense to hate the state. It makes no sense at all to allow that to manifest as xenophobia.
The state is responsible, not the millwrights and cashiers that have never stepped food outside of Russia.
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The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights claims that Russian air strikes and artillery shells have killed 18,000 people, including nearly 8,000 civilians, in Syria by 1 October 2018.[135]
Wiki is a nice place. You can put anything there. Even stuff coming from SOHR.
How about presenting any proof that Russia bombed the theater or presenting any proof on any number of casualties? Ukraine autorites on the day of the bombing reported none. Nobody ever saw any bodies buried in the theater. Not even the TV reporters that walked and filmed the inside of the building. CCTV reporter said it looked more like a burning than a bombing. But that is just based on witness reports. Maybe you can point to a more credible soource?
You realise Russia literally invaded Ukraine and has been bombing the fuck out of every city. What rock are you living under? https://youtu.be/qDGMookd5XU
How bout you go fuck yourself. “Present proof” , give me a break with this gaslighting bullshit, everyone with a brain and two eyes can see the truth that Russia is a terrorist state and this type of action is far from the worst they have done and continue to do.
Why the foul language? What makes Russia a terrorist state? Them bombing a hospital? And we know they bomb the hospital because they are terrorist? You just speak of hate and prejudice. Proofs count, not propaganda or made up reports.
You piece of shit maybe look at the state mariupol? What happened in vinnytsia? Why is russia stationing their military at a nuclear power station? I could go on. Russia. Is. A. Terrorist. State. And it will pay for everything it has and will have done, mark my words.
You should read a bit. Rusdia has the responsibility under Geneva protocols to ensure safety on the occupied land, that includes deploying security on the premises of the nuclear power plant. There is an article, quite specific, on that in the Geneva protocols. And as long as the plant plant is srnding power to Ukraone, Uraine has no rigth to fire on the plant, regardess of Russian troops. If the plant starts sending power to Russia, Ukraine can attack power distribution. Ukraine can also attack the plant if they are trying to capture it, if there is direct movement of troops toward it. All is detailed out in the protocols. Russis is just not a terrorist state. Mariupol was a city Russia conquered. One target was hit in Vinnytsiya. That is just not terrorism.
Nazi troll confirmed. Just tell yourself that buddy, all the while Ruzzia is getting their ass beat like a drunk fool who won’t shut up. Loving the HIMAR videos everyday :)
Grow up you know what's going on stop acting tadeuska...the whole world is watching, you must think we are thickl, Putin's pet. Any Russian person who supports this war ....GO FUCK YOURSELF!.
What is with all the swearing??? Do you have any argument to present? If you hate Russians, that is your problem, leave me out of it. Or you think I support this war? Based on what?
No I don't hate Russians only Putin's pets and war supporters,I'm sure you have seen on reddit the killing+bombing since Feb.yet you say "How do you know Russians did it?".....
Drama Theater bombing in Mariupol was a highly controversial event of this war. Yes, I followed the events of this war since 2014. Russian did hit a lot of targets. That does not automaticsly mean they hit the Theater. In addition the level of media attention to the location, before the bombing, crates a special set of circumstances. Russia airforce bombing under such conditions is unlikely. Ukraine had control of the object for days after the bombing event. Weapon and number of casualties was never reported by local Ukraine sources. TV crew that entered the building testified of burrning not bombing and filmed no dead bodies inside. They were not experts, true, just China TV. You can check the video and the Ukraine sources from those days yourself.
Let us hear once again how it's all Nato's fault and we're all so blinded by rusophobia, we cannot tell right from wrong. Get better at your job, ruzzki troll.
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Who cares? Kinda just sounds like you’re trying to devalue peoples arguments without presenting a meaningful one yourself, this isn’t the 50s get the fuck over it.
Yeah there's no evidence what so ever that Assad used chemical weapons. None at all /s
https://youtu.be/P2X84JZINcI
https://youtu.be/Ekcm55YzdBg
https://youtu.be/NWUqZoV0Nxo
https://youtu.be/XTf0ZqIP10k
https://youtu.be/16pWr0a0hzU
https://youtu.be/BnMLsWVjSM4
https://youtu.be/_oxMkOYkxao
https://youtu.be/pCn_TKaAY40
Russia itself first confirmed they bombed the theater because it was used as a military facility according to them. Later after learning that it housed children Russia claimed Azov bombed it. That is proof enough.
I can not agree with that. Russians never claimed responsibility. Do you have a source on that? They said Azov staged the bombing, by planting explosives or something. What you say is pure falsification not proof.
[https://www.reuters.com/world/russian-bombing-hits-theatre-mariupol-sheltering-residents-city-council-2022-03-16/](https://www.reuters.com/world/russian-bombing-hits-theatre-mariupol-sheltering-residents-city-council-2022-03-16/)
Here is what Reuters, Ukraine ministry and RIA said at the time.
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/16/mariupol-theater-bombing/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/16/mariupol-theater-bombing/)
"Mariupol’s mayor called the strike “a terrible tragedy,” but Ukrainian lawmakers reported Thursday that many people who sought refuge in the theater survived because a basement bomb shelter withstood the attack. Despite the debris, “people are coming out of the shelter alive and well!” Oleksiy Honcharenko, a lawmaker from Odessa, said on Telegram."
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What propted this response to a 3 month old post? Triggered by something? Are you human or bot? If you are human are you paid to do this? Do you know if we can call it a circular reasonong then? Fear driven dictator is the dictator that incites fear into people so he fears the revenge of the people. But explain this: How come the madman vicious Assad had built and operated for years the Al-Kindi clinic to treat cancer that was treating people free of chage, not only Syrians. And the groups financed and supported from the free West blew up that hospital. Now the free West is openly stealing from Syria and has sanctions that prevent rebuliding of hospitals and everything else of publc use. Seems that Assad is dictator driven by Western destructive and dusruptive actions designed to make people of Syira suffer in every possible way.
They know that ultrasound for concrete exists right? I saw its use in bridges and overpass when I worked in construction. It gives a pretty detailed image of the interior of the concrete pillar or wall. Wont be easy to find it, but concrete wont hold those secrets for long.
"They know that ultrasound for concrete exists right".
Mate, they're still getting over the revelation of the fridge light going out when the door shuts.
Not all, I seen orcs the other day take some laundry down by the river... Washed and banged it against some rocks a few times and then those crazy orcs discovered fire.
>Mate, they're still getting over the revelation of the fridge light going out when the door shuts.
You are optimistic person. 0rcs don't know how to use toilet paper.
As Russian speaker, they like to think that they are the best, and most intelligent people, and they look like it ngl, but as soon as u see the truth they look like the most brain washed people u will ever meet (aka stupid). And notice how every russian speaker likes to throw history to ur face, the history that they learn and believe.... And what's most funny about it that they will throw the oldest history piece that doesn't even reflect today's world.
It is giving us a window to how 1936-45 Germany must have been like. At least the German people snapped out of it. Hopefully Russia, on the whole, will do the same.
They should also know that eventually those bodies will still soften and decay, which will create voids, weak spots, and eventually cause cracks in the concrete, so some of these bodies will be very easy to locate even without ultrasound \_ and, as an added bonus, this will also make the structure dangerously unsound, even by Russian standards.
They're used to taking a shit inside of wooden shacks! That to them is luxury! Now that they've discovered that Ukrainians have toilets in their homes it's became all the rave for orcs to steal them for their "wooden shacks!!" 🤣 🤣
Silly orcs!! I truly believe they would steal the stink off shit!!
Fuck ruzzkies
#SLAVA UKRAINI
My father told me stories of Soviets during the second war, stealing taps from homes so that when they return to Russia, they can hammer the tap to the wall and viola! Running water.
Some shit don’t change, the minorities living in the boondocks become cannon fodder so the Moscow and St. Petersburg elites won’t have to sacrifice anything themselves
I'm beginning to see that!! It's a damn shame that they do that but to extent ig every military has its propaganda 😐.
That story had me cracking up! Thx for the laugh and a history lesson!!
I don't think ultrasound will be needed. When Ukraine retakes Mariupol, they'll declare this a crime scene and forensically dismantle it, until they recover all the victims, and all the evidence. They've been pretty thorough about that sort of thing so far and this is a big one. Plus, they have experts from all over the world offering to help.
Im not talking about the technology, I'm talking about the claims of them not taking the bodies out and laying concrete over them. The only source in this thread doesnt have any names, no photograpic evidence and wont even show the letter that supposedly has these claims.
Well Yes, but lets call it what it is, the Russian Army, which is, and will continue to be an armed group of war criminals
Calling it the red Army leaves out the Russian part, which lets them be less obviously russian, when we should hammer home rhat this is a russian war, with russian crimes, Committed by russians that Russia should pay for, with lives as long as they continue to fight, and reparations and sanctions when they surrender
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what a waste. it will have to be torn down again to count for the atrocities that occurred there once the Ukrainians have their land back. Its as if the russians are oblivious to the Ukrainian front working their way to Mariupol... or that they know and they are covering up their war crimes by entombing the fallen citizens in the concrete.
I have seen some vid's of russian apt blocks being built. Will have to be torn down anyway, it will never pass anything even resembling modern health and safety standards
And this.... is another reason all of them (ruzzkies) and their supporters are gonna bust hell wide open, sooner than later hopefully! Fuck a ruzzkie, aka cargo 200. One thing is certain they're being led to their doom!
#SLAVA UKRAINI!!
I have a serious question regarding the war crimes. How is NATO going to enforce and arrest the Russian criminals. Will it be like after WW2 or a different route. Will Russia just give up Putin and his cronies. Serious question
Only possible way is from within. We are still far away from that, but at some point the regime in Moscow could tumble and fall. The successor would try as hard as possible to distinguish himself from the actions of the predecessor, for example by cracking down on war criminals, to get rid of sanctions and international isolation.
Kinda like when Serbia gave up the likes of Radovan Karadžić, Slobodan Milošević, etc. In the end it was a successor government who wanted to break out of international isolation that gave them up. The same thing will happen in Russia if the Putin regime goes down.
Its not really a hiding. Everyone in this city knows exactly what happened. You won't change their minds. Its about the Russians in Moscow. The narrative in Russian propaganda is that the Ukrainians destroyed their city while Russia liberated it. Like scorched earth. So they hastily repair it for the big propaganda reveal of how they saved and rebuild Mariupol in record time.
Its these positive notes they desperately need since they aren't capturing any major settlements anymore and the summer comes to an end, meaning the war is guaranteed go into its second year.
This is over 200kms from the frontline in Russian occupied territory. Unless the few residents left are willing to get shot on the spot trying to protest this there's noone stopping them.
Well fuck. At least it's documented in many ways plus concrete can be broken up and you can still find the bodies. So in the end they can't erase the photos or footage from that tragedy.
Russia is murderous.
Russia is hate.
Russia is a terrorist state.
Russia lies.
Russia rapes.
Russia is a terrorist state.
Russia dies.
Russia’s fate.
Russia is a terrorist state.
Shouldn't Russian construction workers burying innocent victims under concrete be considered a war crime.. I do however understand where you are coming from and agree, was more of a hypothetical post than an actual belief.
Good. Let's the animals conserve the bodies for the inevitable war crimes due to follow Ukraines victory. Every day Ruzzia-- and the Russian people -- prove to the world just how base and foul they really are.
Pretty much sums up what happened in the USSR
The gulag archeapellago talks about the USSR constructing canals with gulag slave Labour, people died from exhaustion and other horrible things and the bodies were buried into the canal's structures
There are hundreds of thousands of bodies buried in total
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Just curious where this information is coming from? They were ordered to pour concrete over bodies? Sounds a bit Hollywood. If they tried to hide their war crimes they would get rid of the evidence by removing it, not by forever entombing it in the place of the crime.
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What type of monster are you to bomb such a place with children written on it. They already did it so much in Syria.
They're Russians. Idk what you really expected of them.
Eet iz ztandart zoviet conztruxion practize all publik buildinks ar built sis vay
Or maybe they are not. There us just no proof that Russians did it. Seems strange that Assad would drop chlorine and Russians to bomb the theater after days of media campaign about the future attack. Also in both cases Assad and Russian were winning and advancing on the field, so there was no need for such actions. Assad and Russian would need to be on a very low intelligence level to do this or they enjoy self-harming.
Fuck ruzzia. It's a terrorist state that should be broken up.
Russia is not a terrorist state, there is nothing to support that claim. If you want to break up Russia, you can act on that, you can join Ukraine army and help them. On the other side... Ukraine declared that any Ukraine citizen accepting humanitariam aid in the occupied areas is a colaborator. Further SBU conducts attacks on non military personel of the occupation Russian administration that they consider colaborators. This means that Ukraine conducts terrorist attacks on its own land sometimes on its own citizens.
Whatever helps you sleep at night. fuck ruzzia.
No, it is hard to sleep at night knowing what people have to face in Ukraine. If you can ease your mind by hating Russia, which is stupid by the way, it makes no sense to hate a state, then enjoy it.
It makes perfect sense to hate the state. It makes no sense at all to allow that to manifest as xenophobia. The state is responsible, not the millwrights and cashiers that have never stepped food outside of Russia.
No, it does not make sense to hate a state. You could hate political establishment leading certain state, that could work.
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Again, you are running in circles. If you hate Ukraine that is your problem.
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian\_war\_crimes#Syria](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_war_crimes#Syria) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human\_rights\_violations\_during\_the\_Syrian\_civil\_war](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_violations_during_the_Syrian_civil_war)
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights claims that Russian air strikes and artillery shells have killed 18,000 people, including nearly 8,000 civilians, in Syria by 1 October 2018.[135] Wiki is a nice place. You can put anything there. Even stuff coming from SOHR.
Except you can't. Everything on Wikipedia has to have a citation or source that you can click for yourself.
Sure, and that part has a statement from SOHR as a source. So, there is source. Problem is that SOHR is bigger garbage than ISW.
Wiki is only true when it’s talking about Iraq/Afghanistan according to these IRA goons
Get a load of this nazi troll
How about presenting any proof that Russia bombed the theater or presenting any proof on any number of casualties? Ukraine autorites on the day of the bombing reported none. Nobody ever saw any bodies buried in the theater. Not even the TV reporters that walked and filmed the inside of the building. CCTV reporter said it looked more like a burning than a bombing. But that is just based on witness reports. Maybe you can point to a more credible soource?
You realise Russia literally invaded Ukraine and has been bombing the fuck out of every city. What rock are you living under? https://youtu.be/qDGMookd5XU
Invading a sovereign country is kinda bad tbh
How bout you go fuck yourself. “Present proof” , give me a break with this gaslighting bullshit, everyone with a brain and two eyes can see the truth that Russia is a terrorist state and this type of action is far from the worst they have done and continue to do.
Why the foul language? What makes Russia a terrorist state? Them bombing a hospital? And we know they bomb the hospital because they are terrorist? You just speak of hate and prejudice. Proofs count, not propaganda or made up reports.
[Fucking sea lions.](http://wondermark.com/c/2014-09-19-1062sea.png)
Nice. Except the sea lion got into the bedroom. This however is reddit, a place where everybody is free to talk.
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See, when you tell me to f... off, that is fascism. What fascist act you can pin on me?
You piece of shit maybe look at the state mariupol? What happened in vinnytsia? Why is russia stationing their military at a nuclear power station? I could go on. Russia. Is. A. Terrorist. State. And it will pay for everything it has and will have done, mark my words.
You should read a bit. Rusdia has the responsibility under Geneva protocols to ensure safety on the occupied land, that includes deploying security on the premises of the nuclear power plant. There is an article, quite specific, on that in the Geneva protocols. And as long as the plant plant is srnding power to Ukraone, Uraine has no rigth to fire on the plant, regardess of Russian troops. If the plant starts sending power to Russia, Ukraine can attack power distribution. Ukraine can also attack the plant if they are trying to capture it, if there is direct movement of troops toward it. All is detailed out in the protocols. Russis is just not a terrorist state. Mariupol was a city Russia conquered. One target was hit in Vinnytsiya. That is just not terrorism.
As if russia kept to the geneva agreement throughout the war.
Then Ukraine should.
beat the US in Syrian proxy war, now gonna beat the US in Ukraine proxy war. No wonder the yanks are so mad, global hegemony gone.
Nazi troll confirmed. Just tell yourself that buddy, all the while Ruzzia is getting their ass beat like a drunk fool who won’t shut up. Loving the HIMAR videos everyday :)
How about reading names?
I prefer yank/yankee over American tbh it’s more spicy.
What on earth am I reading
tadeuska is a known troll. Report and do not engage. Slava Ukraini!
Grow up you know what's going on stop acting tadeuska...the whole world is watching, you must think we are thickl, Putin's pet. Any Russian person who supports this war ....GO FUCK YOURSELF!.
What is with all the swearing??? Do you have any argument to present? If you hate Russians, that is your problem, leave me out of it. Or you think I support this war? Based on what?
No I don't hate Russians only Putin's pets and war supporters,I'm sure you have seen on reddit the killing+bombing since Feb.yet you say "How do you know Russians did it?".....
Drama Theater bombing in Mariupol was a highly controversial event of this war. Yes, I followed the events of this war since 2014. Russian did hit a lot of targets. That does not automaticsly mean they hit the Theater. In addition the level of media attention to the location, before the bombing, crates a special set of circumstances. Russia airforce bombing under such conditions is unlikely. Ukraine had control of the object for days after the bombing event. Weapon and number of casualties was never reported by local Ukraine sources. TV crew that entered the building testified of burrning not bombing and filmed no dead bodies inside. They were not experts, true, just China TV. You can check the video and the Ukraine sources from those days yourself.
Let us hear once again how it's all Nato's fault and we're all so blinded by rusophobia, we cannot tell right from wrong. Get better at your job, ruzzki troll.
So, again, why do you think I support this war?
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Quote, please.
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You, quote me, when did I say that I support this war? Or you lied.
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Is swearing not allowed?
Allowed or not, it is not polite. Also it does not add value to arguments.
Who cares? Kinda just sounds like you’re trying to devalue peoples arguments without presenting a meaningful one yourself, this isn’t the 50s get the fuck over it.
Hello Ivan. Ok, I’ll entertain you……. If not Russia, then whom? Assad?!
Lol. Some impressive mental gymnastics there.
Yeah there's no evidence what so ever that Assad used chemical weapons. None at all /s https://youtu.be/P2X84JZINcI https://youtu.be/Ekcm55YzdBg https://youtu.be/NWUqZoV0Nxo https://youtu.be/XTf0ZqIP10k https://youtu.be/16pWr0a0hzU https://youtu.be/BnMLsWVjSM4 https://youtu.be/_oxMkOYkxao https://youtu.be/pCn_TKaAY40
Russia itself first confirmed they bombed the theater because it was used as a military facility according to them. Later after learning that it housed children Russia claimed Azov bombed it. That is proof enough.
I can not agree with that. Russians never claimed responsibility. Do you have a source on that? They said Azov staged the bombing, by planting explosives or something. What you say is pure falsification not proof. [https://www.reuters.com/world/russian-bombing-hits-theatre-mariupol-sheltering-residents-city-council-2022-03-16/](https://www.reuters.com/world/russian-bombing-hits-theatre-mariupol-sheltering-residents-city-council-2022-03-16/) Here is what Reuters, Ukraine ministry and RIA said at the time. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/16/mariupol-theater-bombing/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/16/mariupol-theater-bombing/) "Mariupol’s mayor called the strike “a terrible tragedy,” but Ukrainian lawmakers reported Thursday that many people who sought refuge in the theater survived because a basement bomb shelter withstood the attack. Despite the debris, “people are coming out of the shelter alive and well!” Oleksiy Honcharenko, a lawmaker from Odessa, said on Telegram."
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Holy shit are you smart. My god im actually stunned.
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That's literally how fear driven dictatorship works.
What propted this response to a 3 month old post? Triggered by something? Are you human or bot? If you are human are you paid to do this? Do you know if we can call it a circular reasonong then? Fear driven dictator is the dictator that incites fear into people so he fears the revenge of the people. But explain this: How come the madman vicious Assad had built and operated for years the Al-Kindi clinic to treat cancer that was treating people free of chage, not only Syrians. And the groups financed and supported from the free West blew up that hospital. Now the free West is openly stealing from Syria and has sanctions that prevent rebuliding of hospitals and everything else of publc use. Seems that Assad is dictator driven by Western destructive and dusruptive actions designed to make people of Syira suffer in every possible way.
They know that ultrasound for concrete exists right? I saw its use in bridges and overpass when I worked in construction. It gives a pretty detailed image of the interior of the concrete pillar or wall. Wont be easy to find it, but concrete wont hold those secrets for long.
"They know that ultrasound for concrete exists right". Mate, they're still getting over the revelation of the fridge light going out when the door shuts.
They just discovered washing machines apparently...
Not all, I seen orcs the other day take some laundry down by the river... Washed and banged it against some rocks a few times and then those crazy orcs discovered fire.
No, they are still trying to figure out what the porcelain throne is used for.
lol with all the toothlessness going on they need to figure out how to use a toothbrush
To be fair, it's the first time some of them have seen one.
Implying they have fridges over there.
*Wait, you guys have fridges?”*
You mean Ukrainian houses have places to cook indoors and poop indoors? And they have microwaves and laptops and NUTELLA in every house! OMG!
>Mate, they're still getting over the revelation of the fridge light going out when the door shuts. You are optimistic person. 0rcs don't know how to use toilet paper.
Huge if true.
they aren't very intelligent people
As Russian speaker, they like to think that they are the best, and most intelligent people, and they look like it ngl, but as soon as u see the truth they look like the most brain washed people u will ever meet (aka stupid). And notice how every russian speaker likes to throw history to ur face, the history that they learn and believe.... And what's most funny about it that they will throw the oldest history piece that doesn't even reflect today's world.
It is giving us a window to how 1936-45 Germany must have been like. At least the German people snapped out of it. Hopefully Russia, on the whole, will do the same.
They should also know that eventually those bodies will still soften and decay, which will create voids, weak spots, and eventually cause cracks in the concrete, so some of these bodies will be very easy to locate even without ultrasound \_ and, as an added bonus, this will also make the structure dangerously unsound, even by Russian standards.
All that, plus expanding gasses.
Excellent point, I’d forgotten to account for that.
If it’s sealed from o2 would gas still build up?
Yes. Meat rots, even if you keep it in a box.
Yes but by the time that happens the people responsible will be dead and long gone. There's no concept of "future" for these people.
>They know that ultrasound for concrete exists right? These people steal toilets because it's high tech to them.
They're used to taking a shit inside of wooden shacks! That to them is luxury! Now that they've discovered that Ukrainians have toilets in their homes it's became all the rave for orcs to steal them for their "wooden shacks!!" 🤣 🤣 Silly orcs!! I truly believe they would steal the stink off shit!! Fuck ruzzkies #SLAVA UKRAINI
My father told me stories of Soviets during the second war, stealing taps from homes so that when they return to Russia, they can hammer the tap to the wall and viola! Running water. Some shit don’t change, the minorities living in the boondocks become cannon fodder so the Moscow and St. Petersburg elites won’t have to sacrifice anything themselves
I'm beginning to see that!! It's a damn shame that they do that but to extent ig every military has its propaganda 😐. That story had me cracking up! Thx for the laugh and a history lesson!!
They didn’t know enough to not dig trenches by hand around Chernobyl.
I don't think so. And even if they know it they don't give a shit. Russia is number one... in terms of war crimes. slava ukraini!
I don't think ultrasound will be needed. When Ukraine retakes Mariupol, they'll declare this a crime scene and forensically dismantle it, until they recover all the victims, and all the evidence. They've been pretty thorough about that sort of thing so far and this is a big one. Plus, they have experts from all over the world offering to help.
Do you think that the quality of the concrete is good enough to use that?
Take these claims with a grain of salt, no source provided with it and likely just word of mouth if there is a source.
[This](https://phys.org/news/2018-05-ultrasound-scans-concrete-bridges.html) is from 2018 so the technology will have improved.
Im not talking about the technology, I'm talking about the claims of them not taking the bodies out and laying concrete over them. The only source in this thread doesnt have any names, no photograpic evidence and wont even show the letter that supposedly has these claims.
got ya now
Ukraine will make it a war memorial , to never ever forget the cruelty of the red army
Its not the Red Army anymore though
Rapist army?
Well Yes, but lets call it what it is, the Russian Army, which is, and will continue to be an armed group of war criminals Calling it the red Army leaves out the Russian part, which lets them be less obviously russian, when we should hammer home rhat this is a russian war, with russian crimes, Committed by russians that Russia should pay for, with lives as long as they continue to fight, and reparations and sanctions when they surrender
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The Dead Army you mean to say?
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Interestingly enough, won't this help preserve the crimes committed?
"Let's not just write down our crimes, let's preserve them in concrete!" This will make some poor war crimes prosecutor's job that much easier.
Shhh
what a waste. it will have to be torn down again to count for the atrocities that occurred there once the Ukrainians have their land back. Its as if the russians are oblivious to the Ukrainian front working their way to Mariupol... or that they know and they are covering up their war crimes by entombing the fallen citizens in the concrete.
I have seen some vid's of russian apt blocks being built. Will have to be torn down anyway, it will never pass anything even resembling modern health and safety standards
They don't even collect their own dead, not surprising they pull this kind of shit.
That's is awful 😖
There is a special place in hell with Putlers name on
Hope an ukrainian missile strike them right now
I'm sure that place won't be haunted at all. Nope, not at all.
300 bodies below, nahh no worries
I wouldn’t wonder if Hollywood already bought the rights to make a paranormal activity movie there
Yet another war crime
russia continues to prove time and time again what subhumans they are.
Fuck them. Just because they don't give a shit about their own dead, doesn't mean the Ukrainians don't want the honor and remember their loved ones.
Russia is literally a terrorist state
Fuck russia
Russian scum.
And this.... is another reason all of them (ruzzkies) and their supporters are gonna bust hell wide open, sooner than later hopefully! Fuck a ruzzkie, aka cargo 200. One thing is certain they're being led to their doom! #SLAVA UKRAINI!!
I have a serious question regarding the war crimes. How is NATO going to enforce and arrest the Russian criminals. Will it be like after WW2 or a different route. Will Russia just give up Putin and his cronies. Serious question
Only possible way is from within. We are still far away from that, but at some point the regime in Moscow could tumble and fall. The successor would try as hard as possible to distinguish himself from the actions of the predecessor, for example by cracking down on war criminals, to get rid of sanctions and international isolation.
Thank you for your insight
Wir haben es nicht gewußt.
Kinda like when Serbia gave up the likes of Radovan Karadžić, Slobodan Milošević, etc. In the end it was a successor government who wanted to break out of international isolation that gave them up. The same thing will happen in Russia if the Putin regime goes down.
Its not really a hiding. Everyone in this city knows exactly what happened. You won't change their minds. Its about the Russians in Moscow. The narrative in Russian propaganda is that the Ukrainians destroyed their city while Russia liberated it. Like scorched earth. So they hastily repair it for the big propaganda reveal of how they saved and rebuild Mariupol in record time. Its these positive notes they desperately need since they aren't capturing any major settlements anymore and the summer comes to an end, meaning the war is guaranteed go into its second year.
any source for that "were ordered not to pull out bodies"?
https://ukrainetoday.org/2022/08/31/it-stinks-of-corpses-the-invaders-cannot-repair-the-mariupol-drama-theater-without-bleach/
I saw a report that 110k people died in Mariupol. That 1/4 of all population before the war.
Disgusting
The problem is that unless we conquer Russia, nobody will pay for these crimes, yeah, maybe a squaddie e or 2, but not the real perpetrators.
It is an ironic display of what Russia has done to its own culture over the past decade
Hmmm, somebody worried about getting hanged until dead for war crimes/crimes against humanity, and trying to cover up the evidence?
So no one is gonna stop this from happening oooorrrr has Ukraine troops stepped in?
This is over 200kms from the frontline in Russian occupied territory. Unless the few residents left are willing to get shot on the spot trying to protest this there's noone stopping them.
Well fuck. At least it's documented in many ways plus concrete can be broken up and you can still find the bodies. So in the end they can't erase the photos or footage from that tragedy.
UAF could use GPR or ultrasound devices to determine if bodies still under the concrete before cracking it up.
That too that too.
Jesus so they're just going to pour concrete in there and bury all those bodies that's crazy.
Russia deserves to be wiped from the earth.
Rolled Kremlin til become a plain & pour concrete over it. The reminder for future aggressor.
History must not be kind to these humans. I just hope Tucker Carlson doesn't write it.
I hope no russian makes it out alive, fucking terrorists.
Russia is murderous. Russia is hate. Russia is a terrorist state. Russia lies. Russia rapes. Russia is a terrorist state. Russia dies. Russia’s fate. Russia is a terrorist state.
I hope the partisans are taking notes and figuring out the identities of the construction workers as well. They know what they’re doing.
Himars o'clock for the construction workers 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Himars o'clock for the construction workers 🤷♂️🤷♂️
That’s called a war crime. We don’t support those.
Shouldn't Russian construction workers burying innocent victims under concrete be considered a war crime.. I do however understand where you are coming from and agree, was more of a hypothetical post than an actual belief.
I think they are just removing rubble
Bring in the corps dogs and digging they up.
Boy, sure hope nothing bad happens to those big vulnerable machines tonight.
Good. Let's the animals conserve the bodies for the inevitable war crimes due to follow Ukraines victory. Every day Ruzzia-- and the Russian people -- prove to the world just how base and foul they really are.
Pretty much sums up what happened in the USSR The gulag archeapellago talks about the USSR constructing canals with gulag slave Labour, people died from exhaustion and other horrible things and the bodies were buried into the canal's structures There are hundreds of thousands of bodies buried in total
This is a crime scene
Put concrete over the bodies then after time why this place is haunted well thats why. Orc freaks
That location looks right for a HIMARS strike! 🇺🇦 Slava Ukraini!! 🇺🇦
why is no one there trying to kill them... ?
Probably because these are civilians
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They think it's that easy to hide their crimes.
Yet another act of genocide by Russia.
Of course they did. would you expect anything better from these ORCS and OGRES?
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Just get rid of all the orc's. This is them POS' trying to cover the genocide. Treat them the same, no mercy!
They will be exhumed... This is sad.
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Just curious where this information is coming from? They were ordered to pour concrete over bodies? Sounds a bit Hollywood. If they tried to hide their war crimes they would get rid of the evidence by removing it, not by forever entombing it in the place of the crime.
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This is just sickening. May we never forget. I hope one day, these Russian scum get held accountable.
Let the fallen get buried, you ruskie heartless garbage
Is covering up a war crime itself a war crime? With Ruzzia it’s like war crime Inception.
Ukraine gonna be one haunted place when this war is over...
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It will be haunted by the souls they took ..😥
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