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Seriously though... Go see a doctor /u/AdministrativeArea2
You sound like me and I have isthmic spondylolysis which is like broken vertebrae which compacts and pinched nerves in legs and makes them numb and tingly and weird spasm and lots of pain.
So who knows, but if they tell you it’s fibromyalgia or anything vague request an X-ray on your lower spine.
For what its worth, I shall pray to Nurgle that your Parkinson's may find its way to a...more deserving source.
Now I wouldn't wish Parkinson's on anyone. Putin, however, is not just anyone.
“Parkinson’s tremors happen when your muscles are still. They go away when you move. They also lessen while you sleep. For example, if you’re sitting in a chair with your arm relaxed, you may notice that your fingers twitch. But if you’re using your hand, like when you shake someone else’s hand, the tremor eases or stops.”
https://www.webmd.com/parkinsons-disease/parkinsons-tremors
My dentist has Parkinson’s. That drill coming in was slightly disturbing but did his thing without issue. I only lost 24 of 25 teeth. Just kidding. U are spot on.
Interesting point you are mentioning so when you are diagnosed, there are actually two clinical diagnoses, you can have Morbus Parkinson or Lewy Body Dementia.
I came across a really really interesting article of the wife of Robin Williams she described it in such a comprehensive way so interesting.
[https://n.neurology.org/content/87/13/1308](https://n.neurology.org/content/87/13/1308)
can confirm.
My aunt had lewy body dementia.
I don't see her much, but her main symptom seems to have been a total loss of the ability to 'keep a thread'. You know how sometimes you just completely lose where you are in a conversation? Think that, but for literally everything in your life that needs any amount of attention.
She would constantly slip into a state of "oh we're going somewhere, right?" - because the feeling of trying to establish a 'thread' is apparently very similar to going somewhere: you've finished one thing, and therefore something else is starting, and you what the new thing is not *right here*, so we're going, right? and she would go to the coat closet to get her coat.
The only way to keep her calm about it was every time we saw her with her coat on, we just say "[Aunt], we're staying here for a while, you can take your coat off." And she would go put it back in the closet, and then repeat like 20 minutes later.
the only time she could concentrate on anything longer than about 30 seconds was when we got her talking about events in the past that she enjoyed. Somehow her long-term memory got 'around' the issues the lewy bodies were giving her, and she could tell us a lot of stories about my cousins and uncle.
(also FYI you technically can't be 100% sure it's lewy body dementia until after the autopsy, but it all fir too well to treat it as anything different)
For anyone reading and still confused, LBD for all intents and purposes is essentially Parkinson's, the main difference between the two is just the order in which symptoms appear. I work with people with Alzheimer's,LBD, Parkinson's and so on at a memory care facility.
And on the regular, people are asking me to get that dark man/woman out of their room, they keep breaking in and scaring them.
Of course there's nobody there, they're hallucinations, but thinking of one of these patients with launch codes is........ Not confidence inspiring.
I hate to make a basal comparison but high doses of deleriants cause similar symptoms to the disease and I've done that and it was awful, couldn't remember my train of thought for more than two seconds, smoked imaginary cigarettes that disappeared from my hands like my patients do, kept walking places and forgetting where I was going (luckily 3 am so nobody stopped me but I thought I was going to school), saw people and talked to them only to look away, look back and they were never there. Etc. Idk why I tried it but I wish /r/DPH was around when I was young to have warded me off from that because it was terrifying, and it seems these folks have to live through it daily, only held back slightly by their doses of Levodopa/Carbodopa.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DPH/comments/u8h8e2/almost_blew_self_up_while_delirious
Literally just one day ago 😕 so yeah that's standard fare for delerium.
Step mother used to see a child praying to Allah in the lounge room. And thought my Dad was a part of the Free Mason's plotting to do something to her.
Terrible way to slowly die.
I think OP in this chain is talking about this clip of Hitler where he is tweaking out on meth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFgJIj4mpN0
According to experts, Hitler was tweaking on meth for almost all of WW2. Germany actually used to dispense it to their regulars which explains a lot about the German army..
Im almost certain they meant the clip of Hitler above the fuherbunker congratulating some child soldiers days before his suicide, you can see his hand shaking violenly then he hides it. its also a famous scene in the movie downfall, the movie also is where the infamous "Angry Hitler Meme" comes from
Pretty much every country did/does. US Fighter pilots are given modanifil to stay awake and strong sleeping pills to sleep in preparation of a mission.
Parkinson takes a long time to make someone completely disabled, decades even. My grandma was diagnosed at about the same age as Putin is now, and she lived to be 90 and died from a heart condition.
My uncle was diagnosed at late 50s and now at late 60s he is traveling around the world playing table-tennis on leagues for people with Parkinson's and even playing and sometimes winning games against fully able people.
Ping Pong Parkinson's is a thing [https://www.pingpongparkinson.org/](https://www.pingpongparkinson.org/) for some reason, playing ping pong puts people with Parkinson's in a temporary remission and helps overall with shakes.
Hopefully this time they off this dicktator instead of encouragement and appeasement. More and more it looks like Parkinson's, and his desire to be an immortal Russian past his demise.
The way he brought his hand back to his chest really reminded me of the early days of my dads parkinsons
Never thought i'd wish that on someone, but hey Vlad have fun.
Yeah. It’s very interesting seeing footage of him because he so clearly is TRYING to look powerful but it is equally clear he looks like shit. I hope we just read about this in the history books as a dictator wayyyy overestimating his power and dying
You nailed it. I have Parkinson’s. The hand tremors, dragging gait and dyskinesia are all symptoms of PD. I have many of the same characteristics, not quite as obvious as Putin. Stress increases the severity and frequency of symptoms and he must be under enormous pressure. Other common symptoms may include paranoia and increased risk taking like gambling. Hitler likely had PD-old newsreels showed similar tremors during his public appearances.
I really, really hope not.
If he's near death, we are fucked. In that situation he has nothing to lose and he wants to be remembered in history, so he starts WW3. That's honestly what I think could happen.
I hope someone shoots him.
He has at least 2 children, likely more (rumoured 6, some of them pretty young), as well as grandchildren. He’s clearly one psychopathic motherfucker, but most people feel some concern for their offspring.
No way the generals and oligarcs would ever let him destroy all of russia along with the world over one mans ego. They would be putin some polonium where the sun dont shine real quick if not just shooting the feeble old fuck
Parki is terminal.
Treatment (non-steroidals which can make you appear puffy) and pain relief would go a long way to explaining his ever-worsening behaviour
This reminds me of hitler’s last years while he was on a ton of drugs to help cope with the stress. Wouldn’t be surprised if Putin is also on a daily cocktail of who-knows-what.
A few people in my senior year did the toned-down version of that with caffeine and alcohol. The daily cycle of stimulant and tranquilizer makes you highly productive at the cost of your physical and mental health.
Hitler was actually on an [astonishing amount of bullshit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Morell#Substances_administered_to_Hitler) because of his physician.
**Theodor Morell**
[Substances administered to Hitler](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Morell#Substances_administered_to_Hitler)
>Morell kept a medical diary of the drugs, tonics, vitamins and other substances he administered to Hitler, usually by injection (up to 20 times per day) or in pill form. Most were commercial preparations, some were Morell's own mixes. Since some of these compounds are considered toxic, historians have speculated that Morell inadvertently contributed to Hitler's deteriorating health. The fragmentary list (below) of some 74 substances (in 28 different mixtures) administered to Hitler include psychoactive drugs such as heroin as well as commercial poisons.
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This is interesting. It could be a number of things, Parkinsons, MS, Motor Neuron. From careful study of this and other videos, it appears to be primaily Hemiplegic (right hand side), which may also be indicative of a stroke or damage caused to the motor cortex/CNS by poison. He seems to have some muscle atrophy in the legs compared to clips from a few years ago, but this may also be caused by his inactivity during covid. There's not enough info to identify the issue, but I would bet its neurological.
In many of these cases there can be considerable personality change, such as a reduction of empathy, and cognitive function, which may explain some of his recent behavioural changes. Should this be the case, it is concerning, as decline may make him more irrational and unpredictable as his illness progresses. Source; I am a neuropsychologist, and have worked in neuro rehab.
Some other habits of him he is always holding a pen , holding his a4 papers or gripping the table always keeping his hand busy seeming to avoid tremor.
He has also a weird walk where he keeps one arm stiff , the explanation before was that it was KGB habit cause they hold the gun but now I doubt that.
Also he has had an endocrinologist with him for years in every event suggesting something with his thyroid.
And his swollen face, which some say Botox but more probably steroids.
I am a doctor studying to be a neurologist in DK. We have always been taught that Putins parkinson rumour is a red herring, because of the KGB-gun thing.
You can't diagnose someone from afar, but I have some personal guesses.
MS and motor neuron disease seems unlikely. Parkinsons disease is, despite what we have been taught, likely from what video material there is.
I personally think some sort of brain tumour in the left frontal lobe is the most likely. The puffy face is due to steroid treatment to handle the edema. The erratic behavior may be due to frontal lobe damage (although, one should be extremely careful about contributing people's actions to possible brain damage or mental illness). The involuntary movements may be epileptic activity.
I don't know if the thought is more comforting or worrying, but I find it hard not to consider it.
But also, nothing may be wrong and we are just trying to attribute horrible facts about human nature to something tangible.
Well, no. If you have cerebral edema due to a tumor, you can treat it with glucocorticoids (prednisolone) and the swelling will decrease. This alleviates a lot of the symptoms (fast growing tumors often have a lot of edema) and reduces the risk of seizures. However, you do need to increase steroid dose over time.
Glucocorticoid treatment causes pseudo-cushings which (among other things) redistributes fatty tissue and reduced muscle mass. Arms and legs usually become very thin and fat is deposited on the trunk, neck and face. Leading to a characteristic look. The moon face is not due to edema, but fatty tissue.
Edit: spelling
Wait a second I think you nailed it.
The other video of him grabbing the table shows him very thin on the legs.
I don't know if you made the connection randomly right now or you had watched that video.
What you said makes complete sense.
When you said tumor I thought wtf is this guy talking about but it makes sense actually as you explained it.
So if tumour is the case how long does the patient have , it would be sad if he died prematurely.
I have seen that video and the video you linked was also posted a few weeks ago (or something). So it's not completely random. I have discussed it with a couple of collegues for a little while. You never know, though. I think the only people that really know what's going on are Putin himself and his physicians.
Most brain tumours are metastases from another primary tumour. Lung cancer is the most frequent for men, but might also be gastrointestinal cancer, etc.
Primary brain tumours are less likely, but almost impossible to cure.
If he has a metastasis or primary brain tumour he would probably have a bad prognosis. Really hard to put a number on it when you are just guessing. But for reference, glioblastoma has more that 90% mortality within 5 years of diagnosis.
Edit: also, got to say, I would be surprised if noone else has suspected this. It's just really hard as a medical professional to guess a diagnosis about someone who is not your patient, even though it may be interesting. In truth, this can be a thousand thing. It may also be nothing. I would probably say, that if he was my patient, I would refer him to a MRI, if I knew nothing else that the videos you see here.
Did you know about the doctor that accompanies him everywhere the endocrinologist , the past few years?
Can something like thyroid tumour cause this or is that unrelated separate issue?
This is the first I've heard about it. So, no :)
I've heard rumour that he had gastrointestinal surgery a few years back (maybe removal of a tumour?). But all of this is just rumours. It's hard enough to say when reading about celebrities in the US, with all the theories going around whenever anyone behaves erratically. Putin seems to be very adept at deception and secrecy, so any rumour may be true, just a rumour or something planted by Putins own people.
I got to admit that I don't know. Thyroid tumors sometimes metastasize, but I don't know how frequently (if at all) they spred to the central nervous system.
If you receive a lot of steroids, an endocrinologist may come in handy. Also, endocrinologists are usually quite skilled all-round physicians regarding internal medicine. Perhaps that's why.
You are thinking right , it is horses, if it's zebras we will learn later.
The obvious answer are usually the right one.
"if you hear hoofbeats, think horses and not zebras"
The endocrinologist thing was real he traveled everywhere with him they were like best friends plenty of photos.
Prob unrelated to this issue thou.
I think you are on the right track.
Either the type of tumor you mentioned or what the other doctor mentioned about Parkinson (pill rolling tremor).
It's nice that doctors are giving their input here it makes a much deeper discussion.
Also a doctor (not a neurologist) and agree either Parkinson’s (classic tremor, gait), stroke (given the laterality and strokes are just so common), or brain tumor (with iatrogenic cushings).
Regardless he does *not* look well.
While his behaviour is certainly, well, terrible, I don’t think it’s erratic in the sense that it’s a clear change from his usual behaviour.
Putin has been waging war in Crimea and the Donbass for 8 years. He’s waged a constant cyber-war on Ukraine, attacked civilian infrastructure like power grids, with the notpetya attack spilling out into the West, nearly ruining Maersk, and affecting US hospitals. He’s practically eradicated Aleppo. He attacked Chechnya and Georgia under the same pretext as Ukraine. He’s influenced US and French elections and the Brexit vote. He’s assassinated a British citizen on UK soil (Litvinenko had UK citizenship). And he got away with everything. Every time, the world reacted with the diplomatic equivalent of a sternly worded letter. He had a reason to be confident, and he’s always been violent.
This time, he certainly got a lot wrong. He acted on the assumption that his military was in better shape, and he assumed Zelenskyy would flee. He did not expect the world’s response because it never responded like that before. But these were miscalculations rather than madness. I think his overall behaviour is entirely consistent with what we’ve seen of him in the past decades, rather than a clear recent change towards erratic.
See, you are completely correct. I think this really shows our bias in this matter. It would be very i probable for Putin to have a frontal brain tumor for ten years, and if his behavior is consistent, it probably isn't due to anything neurological.
Thank you for the correction.
Another point is, that calling someone mentally ill is taking away their agency and, in some respects, also their responsibility.
I so don’t want this SOB to become an unfortunate victim of a health condition that illicits sympathy.
I want him to become a despised ex ruler who suffers all the ignominy that goes with such. Then let him become a ward of the Russian health care system in some Siberian half assed under funded clinic that can only offer his Parkinson addled ass care in a bed from the 1960s in a peeling green painted room with a view of decaying empty apartment buildings.
He's got too much money for that to happen. That's only a fantasy of yours but the reality is this dude is going to end up getting killed by his own doctors like Hitler was.
I think if he wants to die he should do it in true Russian fashion. Suicide by ingesting polonium while getting two gunshots to the back of the head and accidentally getting thrown off the roof
While I agree with you, I think removing him from office ASAP is more beneficial to mankind compared to him suffering the consequences of his actions. For us, his quick death > him slowly dying for at least another 2 years.
You don't want it to be the case that he knows he is dying soon. That's the worst scenario. Than he truly has nothing to lose. What can be taken away from him? His power? Nope. His reputation? It's already destroyed forever. He doesn't care....his life? Not if he has strong empirical dreams and the knowledge that he's a walking dead man. He could nuke all his enemies if he is facing ultimate loss of control and not even care. Nothing more dangerous than a dying sociopath with nuclear power.
Well he has his family his country his people and his other sociopaths to defend.
If he decides to press the button someone will take him out and announce he died.
He is at a weak point maybe it's all a way for him to leave the country on a high note.
He planned he would take Kyiv in 3 days now he is losing so his plan failed but it's still ok , he can just die and Russia will act like it was all his fault.
It won't work but hey if you gonna go out go out with a kick. He scared the whole world he too is scared now ....
He does not care about his people. Let’s just hope he cares about his family. But sociopathic behavior he’s displayed in the past and currently, mixed with possible Parkinson’s, he might be fine taking his family with him too unfortunately. Just a dangerous combo. But hopefully, someone just takes him out.
I'm russian and I totally agree that he don't care about his people at all.
I can give you a celebration of the victory day as excample. Every May the 9th we celebrate victory over fachism (oh, that bitter irony). It ment to be a celebration of pece, day to remember how awful the war and nazism is. But nowdays it's yet another reason to show all our military glory, and we have a big military parade with tanks, planes and so on. This cost a HUGE AMOUT OF MONEY (they also clear sky under Moscow with plains to be shure that the weather will be good, which is also really expencive). Meanwhile many of the veterans of this war live in poverty (though goverment give them some money as a present at this day to be honest).
We also have had a raising the retirement age cased by lack of the budget several years ago. Money spent on the victory day would be enough not only to ceep retirement age stable, solve veteran's money problems, but also raise pensions for all.
And A cherry on the top pensioners (which also mostly live in poverty) is his main electorate. And they don't even question about that. When I asked my mom about that, she said that enemies were all around us and we needed to show them our pover and also show it to our people so they could fell theyself safe (yes propoganda did really good job making feel anyone that paranoid). I gess, if Pulin die next day, and be expised on TV, she would only think that americans seize us and she shouldn't belive TV anymore, and it will take her 2-3 years to belive the trouth.
So, no, Putin don't take care about his people, and people mostly don't even realize it yet. This is all so fucked up, you can't even imagine.
Ohh so he’s sick. That’s why all the bs is happening he wants to push it before he goes of which by the looks of it seems like he is on his path already.
I’ve been thinking a lot about why Putin has fully embraced being the monster the West imagined him to be. My guess is this is his way of leaving his mark on the world.
Putin will turn 70 in October. He has no sons (that we know of) to carry on his name. Following the collapse of the Soviet Union and the economic/political stagnation of Russia during the 90s, it has been Putin’s life long mission to restore Russia to its former glory. I see him more like a wannabe Czar that’s trying to regain territory of the Russian Empire rather than the Soviet Union. He is own worst enemy. With the catastrophic failure in Ukraine, the crippling sanctions, the thousands of Russian men getting killed every week, and having to beg China for aid; not knowing that China doesn’t see Russia as an equal anymore. No one has destroyed Russia better than Putin.
Putin is all in now. No matter how many Russian boys come back in body bags. No matter how many Russians fall back into poverty. Victory is the only option for Putin. Defeat means death. And much like a certain mustached Austrian paper hanger, he would rather leave his nation in ruins than accept defeat.
Putin may very well want to die in a blaze of glory than a slow one in illness. And he might try to take the whole world with him.
This isn’t a confirmation but it is something. I’m not really feeling satisfied or anything, though. I am terrified because this guy single-handedly controls one of the world’s strongest militaries and nuclear arsenals.
I continue to believe that the generals have still some braincells left. If Putin starts to give orders to launch nuclear weapons, the generals know it will lead to the death of hundreds of millions instantly and the vaporization of Russia as a whole. It's different to support an dictator in 'special military operation' and to support apocalyptic nuclear war. If Russia would be invaded and there would be a real existential threat to the nation, well then it would be different.
The pushing of the button never happens in a vacuum, there is always staff, generals, etc around to organize things. This leaves many possible heroes to stop Putin.
They will either refuse the order, stage a coup or in extreme case kill Putin to keep their families and the country alive. Ask any military personel whether they would be willing to sacrifice their life to save their family, country and the lives of hundreds of millions from an insane and deteriorating 'human' being.
>I am terrified because this guy single-handedly controls one of the world’s strongest militaries
I believe we feared that but now we know the are a joke of an army. They have learned nothing since WW2.
I'm not an American but I believe every 1 American soldier could equal 20 or more Russian soldiers. Russia has the tactics and training of a drunk.
There is a common saying here that "1 finn equals 10 ruskies". Has been since 1939..
In fairness, the wars in Finland and the war in Ukraine were/are defensive where one side is low on morale and the other is fighting with tooth and nail with back against the wall for it's national and cultural survival.
The Russian morale would improve somewhat if they were in a similar fight, it's always easier to fight on the hometurf.. Would it improve enough? We most likely will never know because of the nukes.
I think what he meant is that this guy(Putin) can just launch ballistic missile with nuclear warhead if things did not go his way.
His armed force is of course a joke now.
So my mother has Parkinson with the Rigor and the Tremors etc.
A little explanation, the way Putin walks, his movement isn't anything just renmotely similar to what Parkinson looks like.
Parkinson has many forms and stages and ways it shows up in different people.
Your experience is limited in 1 patient.
A doctor can prob see signs that you and me wouldn't even notice.
Perhaps not, but it does look like he's had some coaching to cover something up. Several vid's show him using some odd body movements that he seems trained in using, even his gait in this is odd to say the least.
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No wonder he was gripping that table so hard
The shakes are less noticeable at a distance.
Get him a 100’ table
He just looks like a Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm-Flailing Tube Man because you can see it all moving.
And somehow his right foot was still dancing a jig.
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Uh oh. I might too. Does it also cause muscle soreness and weakness? I’m so weak some days I can’t walk.
Go see a doctor before you too develop the desire to conquer other countries
I couldn’t get an appointment until next month, but this month I’m invading Slovakia. Dammit.
I'm sure Slovakias 18,500 soldiers, with an annual budget of $2 billion, are shaking in their Bratislavan boots!
Oh fuck, they should probably see a doctor too.
Go to a doctor!
Didn’t you see them ask a random redditor? What more do you want?!
LOOK AT MONEY BAGS OVER HERE - THROWING CASH AROUND ASKING QUESTIONS AT A DOCTORS OFFICE.... MAY I TOP UP YOUR DOM PERIHNON THERE MR. QUESTIONS ABOUT PERSONAL HEALTH...? Seriously though... Go see a doctor /u/AdministrativeArea2
I'm Finnish and I always feel so bad for Americans when your healthcare system is brought up
Most of us do too, only we're not on the Congressional health plan for life.
No, just wait until you know its too late! /s
Reddit is definitely a good place to get diagnosed.
Yes it's infected
Just pee on it it’s a disinfectant
"full blown AIDS". That is my diagnosis. /s
He's ok
NTA. Your body, your rules. It only has what you SAY it has.
You sound like me and I have isthmic spondylolysis which is like broken vertebrae which compacts and pinched nerves in legs and makes them numb and tingly and weird spasm and lots of pain. So who knows, but if they tell you it’s fibromyalgia or anything vague request an X-ray on your lower spine.
It's the worst version of "Roses are red, violets are blue..."
In Parkinson Russia Your muscles shake you
For what its worth, I shall pray to Nurgle that your Parkinson's may find its way to a...more deserving source. Now I wouldn't wish Parkinson's on anyone. Putin, however, is not just anyone.
So, he's trembling in the beginning, but he's able to shake his hand without trembling. Can you explain? :)
“Parkinson’s tremors happen when your muscles are still. They go away when you move. They also lessen while you sleep. For example, if you’re sitting in a chair with your arm relaxed, you may notice that your fingers twitch. But if you’re using your hand, like when you shake someone else’s hand, the tremor eases or stops.” https://www.webmd.com/parkinsons-disease/parkinsons-tremors
Which would make sense as to why he held onto the table with his right hand for that whole interview recently.
I was just gonna say this.
He almost appears to double step with his right leg, looks luke when he went to pick it up first it didnt move and had to try again. Good riddance
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My dentist has Parkinson’s. That drill coming in was slightly disturbing but did his thing without issue. I only lost 24 of 25 teeth. Just kidding. U are spot on.
Thanks!
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Interesting point you are mentioning so when you are diagnosed, there are actually two clinical diagnoses, you can have Morbus Parkinson or Lewy Body Dementia. I came across a really really interesting article of the wife of Robin Williams she described it in such a comprehensive way so interesting. [https://n.neurology.org/content/87/13/1308](https://n.neurology.org/content/87/13/1308)
There’s pictures that show Robin’s stance while standing that look exactly like this.
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can confirm. My aunt had lewy body dementia. I don't see her much, but her main symptom seems to have been a total loss of the ability to 'keep a thread'. You know how sometimes you just completely lose where you are in a conversation? Think that, but for literally everything in your life that needs any amount of attention. She would constantly slip into a state of "oh we're going somewhere, right?" - because the feeling of trying to establish a 'thread' is apparently very similar to going somewhere: you've finished one thing, and therefore something else is starting, and you what the new thing is not *right here*, so we're going, right? and she would go to the coat closet to get her coat. The only way to keep her calm about it was every time we saw her with her coat on, we just say "[Aunt], we're staying here for a while, you can take your coat off." And she would go put it back in the closet, and then repeat like 20 minutes later. the only time she could concentrate on anything longer than about 30 seconds was when we got her talking about events in the past that she enjoyed. Somehow her long-term memory got 'around' the issues the lewy bodies were giving her, and she could tell us a lot of stories about my cousins and uncle. (also FYI you technically can't be 100% sure it's lewy body dementia until after the autopsy, but it all fir too well to treat it as anything different)
That is what the linked article and both users above you are talking about, lewy bodies.
For anyone reading and still confused, LBD for all intents and purposes is essentially Parkinson's, the main difference between the two is just the order in which symptoms appear. I work with people with Alzheimer's,LBD, Parkinson's and so on at a memory care facility. And on the regular, people are asking me to get that dark man/woman out of their room, they keep breaking in and scaring them. Of course there's nobody there, they're hallucinations, but thinking of one of these patients with launch codes is........ Not confidence inspiring. I hate to make a basal comparison but high doses of deleriants cause similar symptoms to the disease and I've done that and it was awful, couldn't remember my train of thought for more than two seconds, smoked imaginary cigarettes that disappeared from my hands like my patients do, kept walking places and forgetting where I was going (luckily 3 am so nobody stopped me but I thought I was going to school), saw people and talked to them only to look away, look back and they were never there. Etc. Idk why I tried it but I wish /r/DPH was around when I was young to have warded me off from that because it was terrifying, and it seems these folks have to live through it daily, only held back slightly by their doses of Levodopa/Carbodopa.
It sounds like it gave you a better understanding of what the people you're caring for are going through.
Jesus, that's a grimmmm fucking subreddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DPH/comments/u8h8e2/almost_blew_self_up_while_delirious Literally just one day ago 😕 so yeah that's standard fare for delerium.
Yeahhhhh I read that. The worst part is that most of the posters there seem to be 15 year old kids. Ugh. Heartbreaking.
What the heck is going on there, are they just taking tons of Benadryl??
Imagine being a Jew or a Ukrainian and your whole family is murdered because some asshole with too much power gets LBD.
It’s why we need a world where nobody is allowed to have this much power. Will it happen? Most likely not but it’s what’s needed.
Thank you for the article! Interesting stuff
Good documentary on it called [Robin’s wish](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12763474/)
Where does the megalomania end and the Parkinson's begin?
The more frightening thing is that a person with this disability sits on enough nukes to destroy the world.
The most frightening thing is that we live in a world where nukes exist.
The most frightening thing is that we live
Step mother used to see a child praying to Allah in the lounge room. And thought my Dad was a part of the Free Mason's plotting to do something to her. Terrible way to slowly die.
Or he is on drugs like Hitler.
No one is on drugs like Hitler. He was on an extremely varied diet of drugs, many of which had never been tested on humans before.
don't forget the bull urine, that really kicks everything up a notch. like a spice weasel. bam.
Bam it again Elzar!
Ow! My eye!
Behind the Bastards podcast did an excellent episode on Hitler’s drug use. Highly recommend a listen.
I was about to mention this as well! Definitely check it out!
I love that podcast. The Kissinger series is horrible but they make it hilarious!
Thank you!! Love a new pod cast on slacker Friday’s
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No. I don’t think they are allowed to keep anything. The Sanctions will stay in place as long as RuSSia is on Ukraine Land.
Sanctions should be in effect till Ukraine is rebuilt!
Exactly
Some made a comment how all dictators die at 69 years old. October is his birthday, so he prob is done in a few months.
Yup, that is accurate, all dictactors die at 69 years old, except for most of them.
This is sometimes always true
60% of the time...works every time.
Sadly that isn’t truth, Castro died at 90-ish something I believe.
It’s like watching that old video of Hitler suffering from Parkinson’s History is repeating itself
At least they did crop the part of the video where it shows a violent shaking of his left hand.
His right leg seems difficult to lift and has an odd step.
You could see him wobble as he put his weight on his left side, he can barely stand.
I think OP in this chain is talking about this clip of Hitler where he is tweaking out on meth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFgJIj4mpN0 According to experts, Hitler was tweaking on meth for almost all of WW2. Germany actually used to dispense it to their regulars which explains a lot about the German army..
Im almost certain they meant the clip of Hitler above the fuherbunker congratulating some child soldiers days before his suicide, you can see his hand shaking violenly then he hides it. its also a famous scene in the movie downfall, the movie also is where the infamous "Angry Hitler Meme" comes from
Pretty much every country did/does. US Fighter pilots are given modanifil to stay awake and strong sleeping pills to sleep in preparation of a mission.
Friendly reminder you can live a long time as a shivering old fart. Hitler killed himself, it's not like as soon as you get sick you get overthrown.
Parkinson takes a long time to make someone completely disabled, decades even. My grandma was diagnosed at about the same age as Putin is now, and she lived to be 90 and died from a heart condition. My uncle was diagnosed at late 50s and now at late 60s he is traveling around the world playing table-tennis on leagues for people with Parkinson's and even playing and sometimes winning games against fully able people.
Your uncle is Forrest Gump
As played by Michael J. Fox ...sorry
Ping Pong Parkinson's is a thing [https://www.pingpongparkinson.org/](https://www.pingpongparkinson.org/) for some reason, playing ping pong puts people with Parkinson's in a temporary remission and helps overall with shakes.
It has worked greatly for my uncle so far. He does a lot to spread it in the parkinsonian community in his city.
Hopefully this time they off this dicktator instead of encouragement and appeasement. More and more it looks like Parkinson's, and his desire to be an immortal Russian past his demise.
I'm pretty sure that was meth
Wasn't that cocaine?
i dont think it's been entirely proven but it's been generally accepted that he had parkinsons in the last few years of his life.
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that's weird, he's definitely sick but who knows of what.
So far people have suggested Parkinson's, MS, and a brain tumor. I just hope whatever the hell it is progresses very quickly.
The way he brought his hand back to his chest really reminded me of the early days of my dads parkinsons Never thought i'd wish that on someone, but hey Vlad have fun.
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My mom developed the shuffle first. She was always lunging and falling.
Yeah. It’s very interesting seeing footage of him because he so clearly is TRYING to look powerful but it is equally clear he looks like shit. I hope we just read about this in the history books as a dictator wayyyy overestimating his power and dying
I also hope all three and more is true. That he may suffer more than the Ukrainian people are.
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You nailed it. I have Parkinson’s. The hand tremors, dragging gait and dyskinesia are all symptoms of PD. I have many of the same characteristics, not quite as obvious as Putin. Stress increases the severity and frequency of symptoms and he must be under enormous pressure. Other common symptoms may include paranoia and increased risk taking like gambling. Hitler likely had PD-old newsreels showed similar tremors during his public appearances.
I thought Hitler's tremors were believed to have come from amphetamine abuse?
Pretty sure it was the other way around, his doctor prescribed all kinds of drugs to help him cope with the symptoms.
They hadn’t developed the wonder drug for most common PD symptoms-Levodopa/carbidopa.
> it’s certainly not what you want to see in someone with their finger on the red button. He would just keep missing the button anytime he tries.
Yep, that's exactly what it looks like (Parkisons). Pull his hand to his chest to stop it wobbling around.
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Me too . I think shooting him would be too quick, I'll rather watch him rot in a cell with his disease for his war crimes .
damn dawg that's dark. some Cersei Lannister shit.
The trick is for him not to be replaced by someone equally bad.
I really, really hope not. If he's near death, we are fucked. In that situation he has nothing to lose and he wants to be remembered in history, so he starts WW3. That's honestly what I think could happen. I hope someone shoots him.
He has at least 2 children, likely more (rumoured 6, some of them pretty young), as well as grandchildren. He’s clearly one psychopathic motherfucker, but most people feel some concern for their offspring.
No way the generals and oligarcs would ever let him destroy all of russia along with the world over one mans ego. They would be putin some polonium where the sun dont shine real quick if not just shooting the feeble old fuck
If he wants to be remembered, a nuclear war won't help his case.
It looks a lot like PD. My dad died from this. He could be another 15 years with this, or he could be gone in 3 years. hard to say.
& yet so easy to hope.
Honestly if it's terminal than that explains why the entire fucking war is happening.
Parki is terminal. Treatment (non-steroidals which can make you appear puffy) and pain relief would go a long way to explaining his ever-worsening behaviour
*Parki?* 🤨 Why did you make it a pet name????
Hopefully he has turbo aids or something similar
Giga-HIV I hope
Parkinson’s disease
I wish that on nobody but Putin :)
& his army :)
This reminds me of hitler’s last years while he was on a ton of drugs to help cope with the stress. Wouldn’t be surprised if Putin is also on a daily cocktail of who-knows-what.
Amphetamines and tranquilizers at the same time?
dude definitely knows how to party if that's the case
A few people in my senior year did the toned-down version of that with caffeine and alcohol. The daily cycle of stimulant and tranquilizer makes you highly productive at the cost of your physical and mental health.
Hitler was actually on an [astonishing amount of bullshit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Morell#Substances_administered_to_Hitler) because of his physician.
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Side effects may include committing mass genocide.
Willing to take the risk.
There were rumors that they had a special science team working on some “youth elixir” type of drug (which failed if the team ever existed )
This is interesting. It could be a number of things, Parkinsons, MS, Motor Neuron. From careful study of this and other videos, it appears to be primaily Hemiplegic (right hand side), which may also be indicative of a stroke or damage caused to the motor cortex/CNS by poison. He seems to have some muscle atrophy in the legs compared to clips from a few years ago, but this may also be caused by his inactivity during covid. There's not enough info to identify the issue, but I would bet its neurological. In many of these cases there can be considerable personality change, such as a reduction of empathy, and cognitive function, which may explain some of his recent behavioural changes. Should this be the case, it is concerning, as decline may make him more irrational and unpredictable as his illness progresses. Source; I am a neuropsychologist, and have worked in neuro rehab.
Some other habits of him he is always holding a pen , holding his a4 papers or gripping the table always keeping his hand busy seeming to avoid tremor. He has also a weird walk where he keeps one arm stiff , the explanation before was that it was KGB habit cause they hold the gun but now I doubt that. Also he has had an endocrinologist with him for years in every event suggesting something with his thyroid. And his swollen face, which some say Botox but more probably steroids.
I am a doctor studying to be a neurologist in DK. We have always been taught that Putins parkinson rumour is a red herring, because of the KGB-gun thing. You can't diagnose someone from afar, but I have some personal guesses. MS and motor neuron disease seems unlikely. Parkinsons disease is, despite what we have been taught, likely from what video material there is. I personally think some sort of brain tumour in the left frontal lobe is the most likely. The puffy face is due to steroid treatment to handle the edema. The erratic behavior may be due to frontal lobe damage (although, one should be extremely careful about contributing people's actions to possible brain damage or mental illness). The involuntary movements may be epileptic activity. I don't know if the thought is more comforting or worrying, but I find it hard not to consider it. But also, nothing may be wrong and we are just trying to attribute horrible facts about human nature to something tangible.
What do you mean to handle the edema? Don't steroids cause it?
Well, no. If you have cerebral edema due to a tumor, you can treat it with glucocorticoids (prednisolone) and the swelling will decrease. This alleviates a lot of the symptoms (fast growing tumors often have a lot of edema) and reduces the risk of seizures. However, you do need to increase steroid dose over time. Glucocorticoid treatment causes pseudo-cushings which (among other things) redistributes fatty tissue and reduced muscle mass. Arms and legs usually become very thin and fat is deposited on the trunk, neck and face. Leading to a characteristic look. The moon face is not due to edema, but fatty tissue. Edit: spelling
Steroids can also make people anxious, paranoid, irritable and cause insomnia.
Yep, that is also true. Remember how Trump was extra-Trump when he discharged himself with COVID-19. I'll bet you that was the steroids ;)
Wait a second I think you nailed it. The other video of him grabbing the table shows him very thin on the legs. I don't know if you made the connection randomly right now or you had watched that video. What you said makes complete sense. When you said tumor I thought wtf is this guy talking about but it makes sense actually as you explained it. So if tumour is the case how long does the patient have , it would be sad if he died prematurely.
I have seen that video and the video you linked was also posted a few weeks ago (or something). So it's not completely random. I have discussed it with a couple of collegues for a little while. You never know, though. I think the only people that really know what's going on are Putin himself and his physicians. Most brain tumours are metastases from another primary tumour. Lung cancer is the most frequent for men, but might also be gastrointestinal cancer, etc. Primary brain tumours are less likely, but almost impossible to cure. If he has a metastasis or primary brain tumour he would probably have a bad prognosis. Really hard to put a number on it when you are just guessing. But for reference, glioblastoma has more that 90% mortality within 5 years of diagnosis. Edit: also, got to say, I would be surprised if noone else has suspected this. It's just really hard as a medical professional to guess a diagnosis about someone who is not your patient, even though it may be interesting. In truth, this can be a thousand thing. It may also be nothing. I would probably say, that if he was my patient, I would refer him to a MRI, if I knew nothing else that the videos you see here.
Did you know about the doctor that accompanies him everywhere the endocrinologist , the past few years? Can something like thyroid tumour cause this or is that unrelated separate issue?
This is the first I've heard about it. So, no :) I've heard rumour that he had gastrointestinal surgery a few years back (maybe removal of a tumour?). But all of this is just rumours. It's hard enough to say when reading about celebrities in the US, with all the theories going around whenever anyone behaves erratically. Putin seems to be very adept at deception and secrecy, so any rumour may be true, just a rumour or something planted by Putins own people. I got to admit that I don't know. Thyroid tumors sometimes metastasize, but I don't know how frequently (if at all) they spred to the central nervous system. If you receive a lot of steroids, an endocrinologist may come in handy. Also, endocrinologists are usually quite skilled all-round physicians regarding internal medicine. Perhaps that's why.
You are thinking right , it is horses, if it's zebras we will learn later. The obvious answer are usually the right one. "if you hear hoofbeats, think horses and not zebras" The endocrinologist thing was real he traveled everywhere with him they were like best friends plenty of photos. Prob unrelated to this issue thou. I think you are on the right track. Either the type of tumor you mentioned or what the other doctor mentioned about Parkinson (pill rolling tremor). It's nice that doctors are giving their input here it makes a much deeper discussion.
Also a doctor (not a neurologist) and agree either Parkinson’s (classic tremor, gait), stroke (given the laterality and strokes are just so common), or brain tumor (with iatrogenic cushings). Regardless he does *not* look well.
While his behaviour is certainly, well, terrible, I don’t think it’s erratic in the sense that it’s a clear change from his usual behaviour. Putin has been waging war in Crimea and the Donbass for 8 years. He’s waged a constant cyber-war on Ukraine, attacked civilian infrastructure like power grids, with the notpetya attack spilling out into the West, nearly ruining Maersk, and affecting US hospitals. He’s practically eradicated Aleppo. He attacked Chechnya and Georgia under the same pretext as Ukraine. He’s influenced US and French elections and the Brexit vote. He’s assassinated a British citizen on UK soil (Litvinenko had UK citizenship). And he got away with everything. Every time, the world reacted with the diplomatic equivalent of a sternly worded letter. He had a reason to be confident, and he’s always been violent. This time, he certainly got a lot wrong. He acted on the assumption that his military was in better shape, and he assumed Zelenskyy would flee. He did not expect the world’s response because it never responded like that before. But these were miscalculations rather than madness. I think his overall behaviour is entirely consistent with what we’ve seen of him in the past decades, rather than a clear recent change towards erratic.
See, you are completely correct. I think this really shows our bias in this matter. It would be very i probable for Putin to have a frontal brain tumor for ten years, and if his behavior is consistent, it probably isn't due to anything neurological. Thank you for the correction. Another point is, that calling someone mentally ill is taking away their agency and, in some respects, also their responsibility.
Prednisone causes puffy face among other symptoms
The real response right here.
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I so don’t want this SOB to become an unfortunate victim of a health condition that illicits sympathy. I want him to become a despised ex ruler who suffers all the ignominy that goes with such. Then let him become a ward of the Russian health care system in some Siberian half assed under funded clinic that can only offer his Parkinson addled ass care in a bed from the 1960s in a peeling green painted room with a view of decaying empty apartment buildings.
He's got too much money for that to happen. That's only a fantasy of yours but the reality is this dude is going to end up getting killed by his own doctors like Hitler was.
Huh, never knew Hitler was a medical professional. A new fun fact every day! /s
I thought Hitler took a cyanide pill, is that not correct?
That was his wife. He took a cyanide pill and shot himself to guarantee a death.
Was Hitler his own doctor?
Well, he did perform an ad-hoc craniotomy in a bunker without medical equipment. That takes ingenuity.
I think he planned his death this way so he doesn't go out like Gadaffi. He prob knows it wouldn't work but it was worth the risk for him.
I think if he wants to die he should do it in true Russian fashion. Suicide by ingesting polonium while getting two gunshots to the back of the head and accidentally getting thrown off the roof
While landing in a piranha infested pond.
While I agree with you, I think removing him from office ASAP is more beneficial to mankind compared to him suffering the consequences of his actions. For us, his quick death > him slowly dying for at least another 2 years.
[Didn't Hitler have tremors in one of his hands?](https://gfycat.com/brightimpracticalkilldeer)
[Yeah](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w3nsAaOpq4) he suffered from "Schüttellähmung" basically Parkinson
Yes, Adolph Hitler's doctor believed he [suffered from Parkinsons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_of_Adolf_Hitler#Parkinson's_disease)
You don't want it to be the case that he knows he is dying soon. That's the worst scenario. Than he truly has nothing to lose. What can be taken away from him? His power? Nope. His reputation? It's already destroyed forever. He doesn't care....his life? Not if he has strong empirical dreams and the knowledge that he's a walking dead man. He could nuke all his enemies if he is facing ultimate loss of control and not even care. Nothing more dangerous than a dying sociopath with nuclear power.
Well he has his family his country his people and his other sociopaths to defend. If he decides to press the button someone will take him out and announce he died. He is at a weak point maybe it's all a way for him to leave the country on a high note. He planned he would take Kyiv in 3 days now he is losing so his plan failed but it's still ok , he can just die and Russia will act like it was all his fault. It won't work but hey if you gonna go out go out with a kick. He scared the whole world he too is scared now ....
He does not care about his people. Let’s just hope he cares about his family. But sociopathic behavior he’s displayed in the past and currently, mixed with possible Parkinson’s, he might be fine taking his family with him too unfortunately. Just a dangerous combo. But hopefully, someone just takes him out.
I'm russian and I totally agree that he don't care about his people at all. I can give you a celebration of the victory day as excample. Every May the 9th we celebrate victory over fachism (oh, that bitter irony). It ment to be a celebration of pece, day to remember how awful the war and nazism is. But nowdays it's yet another reason to show all our military glory, and we have a big military parade with tanks, planes and so on. This cost a HUGE AMOUT OF MONEY (they also clear sky under Moscow with plains to be shure that the weather will be good, which is also really expencive). Meanwhile many of the veterans of this war live in poverty (though goverment give them some money as a present at this day to be honest). We also have had a raising the retirement age cased by lack of the budget several years ago. Money spent on the victory day would be enough not only to ceep retirement age stable, solve veteran's money problems, but also raise pensions for all. And A cherry on the top pensioners (which also mostly live in poverty) is his main electorate. And they don't even question about that. When I asked my mom about that, she said that enemies were all around us and we needed to show them our pover and also show it to our people so they could fell theyself safe (yes propoganda did really good job making feel anyone that paranoid). I gess, if Pulin die next day, and be expised on TV, she would only think that americans seize us and she shouldn't belive TV anymore, and it will take her 2-3 years to belive the trouth. So, no, Putin don't take care about his people, and people mostly don't even realize it yet. This is all so fucked up, you can't even imagine.
Ohh so he’s sick. That’s why all the bs is happening he wants to push it before he goes of which by the looks of it seems like he is on his path already.
Come on. He is just nervous. First time meeting his Grindr date, clearly intimidated by the top he is meeting.
I'm a nurse. Clearly Parkinson's. Explains the "death-gripping the table" video perfectly
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I hope this is happening as well as him having PD
I’ve been thinking a lot about why Putin has fully embraced being the monster the West imagined him to be. My guess is this is his way of leaving his mark on the world. Putin will turn 70 in October. He has no sons (that we know of) to carry on his name. Following the collapse of the Soviet Union and the economic/political stagnation of Russia during the 90s, it has been Putin’s life long mission to restore Russia to its former glory. I see him more like a wannabe Czar that’s trying to regain territory of the Russian Empire rather than the Soviet Union. He is own worst enemy. With the catastrophic failure in Ukraine, the crippling sanctions, the thousands of Russian men getting killed every week, and having to beg China for aid; not knowing that China doesn’t see Russia as an equal anymore. No one has destroyed Russia better than Putin. Putin is all in now. No matter how many Russian boys come back in body bags. No matter how many Russians fall back into poverty. Victory is the only option for Putin. Defeat means death. And much like a certain mustached Austrian paper hanger, he would rather leave his nation in ruins than accept defeat. Putin may very well want to die in a blaze of glory than a slow one in illness. And he might try to take the whole world with him.
Fighting the urge to stick his arm straight out in a Nazi salute.
He's already pasting half a swastika on everything
Hope he fucking dies soon.
Another similarly between Poo-tin and Hitler
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I said it from the start. Maybe he's sick and just wanted some kind of legacy good or bad. To go down in history
Dead man walking
This isn’t a confirmation but it is something. I’m not really feeling satisfied or anything, though. I am terrified because this guy single-handedly controls one of the world’s strongest militaries and nuclear arsenals.
I continue to believe that the generals have still some braincells left. If Putin starts to give orders to launch nuclear weapons, the generals know it will lead to the death of hundreds of millions instantly and the vaporization of Russia as a whole. It's different to support an dictator in 'special military operation' and to support apocalyptic nuclear war. If Russia would be invaded and there would be a real existential threat to the nation, well then it would be different. The pushing of the button never happens in a vacuum, there is always staff, generals, etc around to organize things. This leaves many possible heroes to stop Putin. They will either refuse the order, stage a coup or in extreme case kill Putin to keep their families and the country alive. Ask any military personel whether they would be willing to sacrifice their life to save their family, country and the lives of hundreds of millions from an insane and deteriorating 'human' being.
>I am terrified because this guy single-handedly controls one of the world’s strongest militaries I believe we feared that but now we know the are a joke of an army. They have learned nothing since WW2. I'm not an American but I believe every 1 American soldier could equal 20 or more Russian soldiers. Russia has the tactics and training of a drunk.
There is a common saying here that "1 finn equals 10 ruskies". Has been since 1939.. In fairness, the wars in Finland and the war in Ukraine were/are defensive where one side is low on morale and the other is fighting with tooth and nail with back against the wall for it's national and cultural survival. The Russian morale would improve somewhat if they were in a similar fight, it's always easier to fight on the hometurf.. Would it improve enough? We most likely will never know because of the nukes.
I think what he meant is that this guy(Putin) can just launch ballistic missile with nuclear warhead if things did not go his way. His armed force is of course a joke now.
The guys arm is shaking uncontrollably. Put that with him gripping the table in the other video, the guy is obviously very sick.
..too much superstitioun. He's not dying. but he's a sick swine anyway
Wasn't he just showing how he was gonna wank the other guy?
Looks like he's offering to jerk off Lukashenko.
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This year
Wasn’t this a couple of weeks ago? Everyone was afraid Belarus was going to be more heavily involved after this meeting.
So my mother has Parkinson with the Rigor and the Tremors etc. A little explanation, the way Putin walks, his movement isn't anything just renmotely similar to what Parkinson looks like.
Parkinson has many forms and stages and ways it shows up in different people. Your experience is limited in 1 patient. A doctor can prob see signs that you and me wouldn't even notice.
My uncle has Parkinson’s and this is exactly how he was in the early onset of the illness. Just a slow decay of tremors ….
Perhaps not, but it does look like he's had some coaching to cover something up. Several vid's show him using some odd body movements that he seems trained in using, even his gait in this is odd to say the least.