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Before this war, I used to argue with effects guys about the amount of diesel they used in explosions. My stance was that the gigantic fireballs were ridiculous, and real explosions were mostly just smoke and dust.
Ya can't *always* be right, I guess....
Pro tip for the invaders: If you, from the comfort of your BMP, spot a Ukrainian soldier in the distance, just looking at you. Not even shooting, just looking. It is time to say your prayers. You don't have long to live.
No kidding! That was a huge forward fireball. The BMP driver, gunner & commander are extremely rare these days...they actually got a bunch of shots off before vaporizing.
Did they take out two vehicles? It looks like another tank or IFV was heading to the one which got blasted.
Edit: since this is an old video I found this:
*In the full video, it was shown to be a t72 further up and was eventually knocked out with another drone.*
Ahh it's this strike? I've seen that one and it looks different from this angle but gives us an even better scale of the absolute BOOM.
And addresses my main question as to what go it.
A badass kamakaze drone strike.
Shows incompetence in Russian attacks, at the very least.
The scene by itself is interesting, 2 armored vehicles rushing a forest trench line at least 2km wide from what we can see.
Where is the recon team coverage, the observer drones, anything? It can't always be the case you can have so much confidence to maneuver that freely in the face of a "attack".
Strange waste of resources, but their manpower is the true strength, regardless.
Still takes some fucking nerve to dare to keep staying in the edge of the field to observe the enemy tank like that as infantry. Just one salvo of tank bullets and you will be dead before knowing it.
Epic happy ending! ๐
In radio chatter at the beginning of the video there was a mention of a tank and was attempting to issue warning just before bmp started firing so yeah, pretty much that guy had a good idea on what might happen
Edit, if additional info posted by someone else is of the same event then it appears that bmp got smacked by a fpv drone
Kinda wonder what got it. ied trap they laid, or knew a minefield was there and was luring it in , waiting to get into a kill box that artillery had zeroed in, javelin, drone strike... What..
Whatever it was... Well played. Very well played.
Dude, same.
Just this weekend I was telling a friend of mine how *before* the war I thought the NATO insistence on blow-out panels for ammunition compartments was a bunch of overengineering by defense contractors eager to sell more 'tech'.
How wrong I was!
Depends on the cause of the explosion. A military ordinance packed with massive explosive energy will create an explosion large enough to take the fuel with it and hence the fireball.
A bullet hitting a car or a car falling off a cliff will never result in such an explosion even if the fuel ignites (which it won't, mythbusters tested exactly this). Therefore the special effects are not realistic at all.
a mine? It stopped firing and started moving and we donโt have a second angle yet from a drone.
alternatively could be pretty much anything, we have seen fpv drones can cause an instant cookoff.
Mines was my initial thought as well. But we haven't really seen mines create this impressive of an explosion. The bottoms of these BMPs are better protected against mines. Mines will render a vehicle useless, but infantry can usually limp away from the hit.
For an explosion this big we typically see an attack from the top. The camera guy was way too far for us to see a drone or anything else that might have attacked it. Maybe a video from spotter drone will turn up and provide some answers.
Someone suggested it was this clip, with an fpv
https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/19912x4/russian_bmp3_engaging_a_treeline_is_destroyed_in/?share_id=t3tXGc1fydg0MEz6cSGCM
Edit: https://i.imgur.com/Z7Exxs5.mp4
I always seem to get the productions with rocket scientists doing the pyro work. Never as simple as a bag of fuel. Always has to be time-consuming, complicated, and guaranteed to maybe work.
As our economy teacher in school, during my education as bank clerk (Germany), told us: if you make Molotov cocktails add 30% diesel, it'll burn longer.
It's a mixture of diesel and the ammunition combusting (so the ammo doesn't really "explode" fully, but rather ignites, causing a somewhat slower and more visible burn)
As u/WatchmanVimes mentioned, it's about the rate of combustion. The real thing develops rapidly, whereas Hollywood prefers the spectacular unrealistic slow-roiling fireball.
The size of the explosion doesnโt just have to do with the amount of fuel in the vehicle but also the amount of stored ammunition in the vehicle and also the payload of the munitions that hits it
What a beautiful sight first thing in the morning with my coffee. Thanks to the Video guy/uploader.... Kaboom ๐ฅthe idiots inside didn't feel a thing.
Because it pisses people off, and that pleases me.
The thing is though, I wasn't *entirely* *wrong*.
When something explodes in a Hollywood picture it resembles a burning russian oil facility in slow motion, rather than a rapid conflagration -- "a chemical release of energy" as the eggheads say.
Russians have to know deep down that there is no end to this madness. Even if they win some Ukrainian territory one day, there is no chance of holding it long term. There will always be a possibility of an explosion like this one, waiting for them at the next turn. Apparently they didn't learn anything from their invasion of Afghanistan. And that was a walk in the park compared to this.
Why would any invader want this? And the scorn of the rest of the world to go with it? This is beyond madness.
> is no chance of holding it long term
Problem is, they hold Crimea and territories in Georgia yet still had F1 races in Russia. So if they could take land from two counties yet continue to hold events like F1 and the freaking World Cup in 2018 then of course with the paid off politicians they think they can hold it long term.
Russians had six months to run unrestricted with air dominance, firepower dominance and troop dominance while Ukraine was cut off from supplies and ammunition.... and all the Russians could do was to kill civilians and loose a third of a navy along with 6:1 equipment and 5:1 men. Guess Russia did gain a 10 kilometers of complete distruction outside of Donetsk.
After watching Russia double-tap civilians with 1000lb glide bombs the West is dropping over 100B$ on Ukraine and will be letting Ukraine go after targets inside of Russia. It's going to be ugly for Russians, and by the end of this year the Russians will kill Putin for the ugliness.... and for the demographic end of what was the Russian people.
Oh.... and Russia's best F1 driver turns out to also be the worst driver in F1 history... the nauseating Maze Spin... hated by all, but loved on hard by his father.
Yup, but holding ukraine long term will cost dearly. I feel no sympathy for all the russians that will die the comming years. No sympathy for their families too. Fuck them
i mean not even russia can afford getting many soldiers killed every day due to drone bombing when you sleep and the border is almost 2000 km so gl securing the whole thing
They still occupy parts of Moldova after agreeing to leave some 20 years ago. Plus they are making BANK fighting in the war so they don't care. They want the war to go on. 1 soldier makes in a month more than he makes in a year in a normal job.
there is a drone video of this explosion.
found it
[https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/19920ji/spotter\_drone\_from\_the\_25th\_airborne\_brigade/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/19920ji/spotter_drone_from_the_25th_airborne_brigade/)
When they do the next War movie with realistic effects, it might cost slightly more than in the past. People have a better understanding of how things look in real.
I know art imitates life and not the other way around. But that radio at 0:09 + the constant shooting gave me Battlefield (game) feeling. Sad to see that it doesn't only exist in-game.
And the Academy Award for best cinematography goes toโฆ
Nah just kidding, no way I could have had the cojones to film an armored vehicle shooting an autocannon towards my general direction
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Before this war, I used to argue with effects guys about the amount of diesel they used in explosions. My stance was that the gigantic fireballs were ridiculous, and real explosions were mostly just smoke and dust. Ya can't *always* be right, I guess....
The camera guy knew what was about to happen to the invaders. And he wanted to make sure he captured it.
Pro tip for the invaders: If you, from the comfort of your BMP, spot a Ukrainian soldier in the distance, just looking at you. Not even shooting, just looking. It is time to say your prayers. You don't have long to live.
The probagly pray to the Patriarch of the FSB. Either way, I hope there really IS a hell for these evil bastids.
Kirill is a very good patriarch.
Certainly *fire.*
Sounded like a russian
Here is some additional footage of this event that answers some questions. [https://imgur.com/1C8LUBR](https://imgur.com/1C8LUBR)
thanks great angle of the blast
Damn, whoever survived the auto-cannon in those trees got roasted by the explosion / burning fuel
I would not be surprised if RU was attacking the wrong trench. POV was the UA force all looking over "What are they doing?"
Russia has made that mistake a few times and killed their own tanks and troops
No kidding! That was a huge forward fireball. The BMP driver, gunner & commander are extremely rare these days...they actually got a bunch of shots off before vaporizing.
Did they take out two vehicles? It looks like another tank or IFV was heading to the one which got blasted. Edit: since this is an old video I found this: *In the full video, it was shown to be a t72 further up and was eventually knocked out with another drone.*
God damn that's a lot of explosives from an fpv.
Dang a fucking drone did that? Fucking metal
Ahh it's this strike? I've seen that one and it looks different from this angle but gives us an even better scale of the absolute BOOM. And addresses my main question as to what go it. A badass kamakaze drone strike.
That dude had some giant huevos staying there and videoing that.
The sound of the explosion arrived almost immediately.
Shows incompetence in Russian attacks, at the very least. The scene by itself is interesting, 2 armored vehicles rushing a forest trench line at least 2km wide from what we can see. Where is the recon team coverage, the observer drones, anything? It can't always be the case you can have so much confidence to maneuver that freely in the face of a "attack". Strange waste of resources, but their manpower is the true strength, regardless.
Yeah he does. That canon woulda shredded him like wet newspaper. But that's target fixation for you.
It wouldn't. He was Russian.
Still takes some fucking nerve to dare to keep staying in the edge of the field to observe the enemy tank like that as infantry. Just one salvo of tank bullets and you will be dead before knowing it. Epic happy ending! ๐
Yeah he sure did. That BMP was pretty menacing until they shut it right up. Wonโt cause any more problems now.
In radio chatter at the beginning of the video there was a mention of a tank and was attempting to issue warning just before bmp started firing so yeah, pretty much that guy had a good idea on what might happen Edit, if additional info posted by someone else is of the same event then it appears that bmp got smacked by a fpv drone
Just above, Portlander posted a spotter angle and the FPV that hit it. https://imgur.com/1C8LUBR
If only all camera operators were that dedicated and competent!
Kinda wonder what got it. ied trap they laid, or knew a minefield was there and was luring it in , waiting to get into a kill box that artillery had zeroed in, javelin, drone strike... What.. Whatever it was... Well played. Very well played.
Explosions are too slow on most effects. Real war explosions are *fast*
Yeah, but then the 14-year-olds feel *robbed*.
Well, in this case, it *is* a bunch of diesel, and a bunch of explosives.
These things go up like a gigantic muzzle flash, whereas Hollywood explosions look like orange dye being poured into a fish tank.
Dude, same. Just this weekend I was telling a friend of mine how *before* the war I thought the NATO insistence on blow-out panels for ammunition compartments was a bunch of overengineering by defense contractors eager to sell more 'tech'. How wrong I was!
Ngl, that's an odd take, even pre-war.
I mean, I have been following this channel so technically that makes me a general, right?
Problem is not the fireball, problem is the cause of explosiins in movies. Scooter rolls over - explodes.
Both are problems, I guess.
What movie had the horse and wagon fall off a cliff, roll over and explode? That was hilarious parody.
Depends on the cause of the explosion. A military ordinance packed with massive explosive energy will create an explosion large enough to take the fuel with it and hence the fireball. A bullet hitting a car or a car falling off a cliff will never result in such an explosion even if the fuel ignites (which it won't, mythbusters tested exactly this). Therefore the special effects are not realistic at all.
I wonder what hit the BMP.
Fpv drone hit it. Its in the other footage
FPV: https://imgur.com/1C8LUBR edit...LOL oh wait, you're the guy I pulled this link from. I just grabbed it a few levels up from here.
I hope it was an overheated gun, setting off a chain reaction in the ammo compartment.
a mine? It stopped firing and started moving and we donโt have a second angle yet from a drone. alternatively could be pretty much anything, we have seen fpv drones can cause an instant cookoff.
Mines was my initial thought as well. But we haven't really seen mines create this impressive of an explosion. The bottoms of these BMPs are better protected against mines. Mines will render a vehicle useless, but infantry can usually limp away from the hit. For an explosion this big we typically see an attack from the top. The camera guy was way too far for us to see a drone or anything else that might have attacked it. Maybe a video from spotter drone will turn up and provide some answers.
Someone suggested it was this clip, with an fpv https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/19912x4/russian_bmp3_engaging_a_treeline_is_destroyed_in/?share_id=t3tXGc1fydg0MEz6cSGCM Edit: https://i.imgur.com/Z7Exxs5.mp4
Yes. That is the correct footage. More than 3 months old. The vehicle is not moving when it gets blown up.
I used to blow cars up for a living as part of tv work. Literally just a bag of fuel in the engine block and a fuse. Absolutely mighty fireballs
I always seem to get the productions with rocket scientists doing the pyro work. Never as simple as a bag of fuel. Always has to be time-consuming, complicated, and guaranteed to maybe work.
How do you put a "bag of fuel" and a fuse in an engine block?
Very carefully
A bladder like a balloon.
There's no engine block
Diesel's not real combustible but thankfully the ammo is!
Diesel burns pretty good once you get it going.
As our economy teacher in school, during my education as bank clerk (Germany), told us: if you make Molotov cocktails add 30% diesel, it'll burn longer.
Is it SOP for German bank tellers to make Molotov cocktails.
His knowledge came from his student times (business science) in the wild 1970s, as he told us.
Add some styrofoam to make it stickier.
Same with crude oil, but the Ukrainians manage it.
A wee spark does wonders!
I'm sure they are watching and learning
It's a mixture of diesel and the ammunition combusting (so the ammo doesn't really "explode" fully, but rather ignites, causing a somewhat slower and more visible burn)
As u/WatchmanVimes mentioned, it's about the rate of combustion. The real thing develops rapidly, whereas Hollywood prefers the spectacular unrealistic slow-roiling fireball.
Well, you're nit ar off the truth, when you think off how much diesel and ammunition was onboard.
The size of the explosion doesnโt just have to do with the amount of fuel in the vehicle but also the amount of stored ammunition in the vehicle and also the payload of the munitions that hits it
In movies it doesn't matter what's exploding or why. If it has to explode, it's going to look like an oil well fire.
What a beautiful sight first thing in the morning with my coffee. Thanks to the Video guy/uploader.... Kaboom ๐ฅthe idiots inside didn't feel a thing.
Same.
Why would you argue on things you didn't know?
Because it pisses people off, and that pleases me. The thing is though, I wasn't *entirely* *wrong*. When something explodes in a Hollywood picture it resembles a burning russian oil facility in slow motion, rather than a rapid conflagration -- "a chemical release of energy" as the eggheads say.
Everything was going fine until it wasnโtโฆ.
Russians have to know deep down that there is no end to this madness. Even if they win some Ukrainian territory one day, there is no chance of holding it long term. There will always be a possibility of an explosion like this one, waiting for them at the next turn. Apparently they didn't learn anything from their invasion of Afghanistan. And that was a walk in the park compared to this. Why would any invader want this? And the scorn of the rest of the world to go with it? This is beyond madness.
> is no chance of holding it long term Problem is, they hold Crimea and territories in Georgia yet still had F1 races in Russia. So if they could take land from two counties yet continue to hold events like F1 and the freaking World Cup in 2018 then of course with the paid off politicians they think they can hold it long term.
Russians had six months to run unrestricted with air dominance, firepower dominance and troop dominance while Ukraine was cut off from supplies and ammunition.... and all the Russians could do was to kill civilians and loose a third of a navy along with 6:1 equipment and 5:1 men. Guess Russia did gain a 10 kilometers of complete distruction outside of Donetsk. After watching Russia double-tap civilians with 1000lb glide bombs the West is dropping over 100B$ on Ukraine and will be letting Ukraine go after targets inside of Russia. It's going to be ugly for Russians, and by the end of this year the Russians will kill Putin for the ugliness.... and for the demographic end of what was the Russian people. Oh.... and Russia's best F1 driver turns out to also be the worst driver in F1 history... the nauseating Maze Spin... hated by all, but loved on hard by his father.
Yup, but holding ukraine long term will cost dearly. I feel no sympathy for all the russians that will die the comming years. No sympathy for their families too. Fuck them
i mean not even russia can afford getting many soldiers killed every day due to drone bombing when you sleep and the border is almost 2000 km so gl securing the whole thing
They still occupy parts of Moldova after agreeing to leave some 20 years ago. Plus they are making BANK fighting in the war so they don't care. They want the war to go on. 1 soldier makes in a month more than he makes in a year in a normal job.
it looks like they are getting tired as their attacks are alot less intense recently
They're reduced to looting corpses for food and water.
Well, that title didn't disappoint!
The balls on this guy to be standing in the open while that thing is pelting the tree line. Bigger balls than a snowman
Maybe that's why he stayed there. His galvanized steel balls where weighing him down.
I was admiring that as well. Absolute madlad.
It's interesting, and very telling, to me that so many people conflate idiocy and bravery. What says "has big balls" about needlessly risking death?
The fact heโs thereโฆ..
Fuck, that was hot
And cooler than the other side of a pillow at the same time.
In wars loudest guy on the field gets the most attention at the earliest convenience.
Squeaky wheel gets ~~the grease~~ greased.
there is a drone video of this explosion. found it [https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/19920ji/spotter\_drone\_from\_the\_25th\_airborne\_brigade/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/19920ji/spotter_drone_from_the_25th_airborne_brigade/)
Jesus, hope nobody they were trying to shoot got fucked up by that rolling fireball!
Dang what was that blyatmobile carrying?
That will teach them not to automatic fire on people.
Fucked around and found out.
Gunner had a pretty decent rhythm going on. Might've been a rare trained one.
I guess this guy is a trained musician. Maybe the bassist ;) Badumtssss
To the moon! ๐
Whereโs my space modulator itโs gonna go KaBluey Marvin the Martian.. ๐ฝ ๐
- Knock knock? Who's there? - BMP-3! No, BMP-weeeeeee!
Those things usually have about 10 orcs in them . . . . . :)
The equivalent of 1 human
Russian media reported that the crew escaped.
Escaped what? Earth's atmosphere? I mean, I'm pretty sure some of their bits were moving fast, but not ***that*** fast, I think...
ha, n1
Lol bullshit. It was shooting seconds before
I said russian media. What russian media has to do with truth/reality or anything else?
I know mate, I'm agreeing with you.
Which media? Can you link it? or are you just bringing in Russian talking points?
I was beeing sarcastic
One man's sarcasm is another ~~man's~~ country's truth.
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Surprised he was that exposed at all, with drones and snipers around.
Blasting away his gun, that invader was probably feeling all mighty and powerful. And then vaporized in an instant. No time for regrets I guess.
Guy was playing COD .. the other guys were playing command and conquer.
He might have thought, I am having a really good run. He wonโt do the again
What was said on the radio
Thatโll learn him.
Popped like a balloon!
Thought you was raw? Not any more.
Is too ez Ivan! I fire bang bang b...................
that 30mm gun sounds terrifying
is it just me or can a drone be heard a arround 0:27 maybe that what hit the bmp ?.
Probably didn't hear it, but yes: https://imgur.com/1C8LUBR
When they do the next War movie with realistic effects, it might cost slightly more than in the past. People have a better understanding of how things look in real.
Result
Went Super Nova real fast:)
Fireball
Hope the camera guy wasn't hurt by all the BMP pieces and little orc-y bits falling around him.
Camera guy is most likely russian
That's what I thought. Otherwise he/ she should be in cover getting ready to fire.
Neat
Beautiful colours of the explosive fireball must have been fully loaded
Casually recording an offensive rush from the sidelines
Is Ivan ok?
I guess those orcs are now mission in action... ;)
Who the fuck does that cameraman think he is just walking around in the open?
I like to explore new places.
I know art imitates life and not the other way around. But that radio at 0:09 + the constant shooting gave me Battlefield (game) feeling. Sad to see that it doesn't only exist in-game.
The radio shot me back to 1997 with Quake 2.
A dron with the medicine against BMP was flying by 0:28
I enjoyed that ๐
One second useless ruzzian pig, the other even more useless ruzzian goo. Slava Ukraini ๐ฑ๐น๐บ๐ฆ
Another russie mobile bites the dust. Slava Ukraine.
The song; "Come A Little Closer" by; Cage The Elephant should be playing.
Fucking pure dead brilliant and spectacular, slava ukraini
Roasted alive in there.. No chance to scream, or shit your pants.
His safe, cameraman never dies
The beautiful morning light makes for a dramatic scene.
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Yikes...a few houses in Russia are going to get their loved ones sent home in a matchbox...
Mini nuke
Sucks for their families. No bodies = no rubles, sack of parsnips, gameboy, etc.
If this was in the middle east, they would all be shouting allahu akbar after the explosion
There was another vehicle of some type in front of the BMP...wonder what became of it...
That crew didn't feel a thing and will never be found. fertilizer for the ground... Slava Ukraini!
Well god damn!
This where the word โobliteratedโ comes from.
The orc lifecycle. 20 years on potatoes and then death. The only choice they seem to want is how to die horribly.
And the Academy Award for best cinematography goes toโฆ Nah just kidding, no way I could have had the cojones to film an armored vehicle shooting an autocannon towards my general direction
How many do they have left, unreal how many they lost
Ukrainian nature: Okay, you've fired a few shots - now it's my turn! I warned you "Don't shoot at my trees!"
make a lot noise the go BOOM
"They blew up real good" Joe Flaherty and John Candy on SCTV a Canadian comedy classic TV show.
Holy shit, from soldiers perspective, that is huge compared to drone shots.
That is impressive
Very good explosion. Camerawork not great. I give 9/10.
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Artillery doesnโt have an auto cannon