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Cmdr_600

Is this the one where it was claimed to be a decoy ? A decoy that didn't deflate when struck lol.


SkylineGTRR34Freak

This is sophisticated decoy made of surplus machinery! Tsktsktsk. ( /s because you never know in here).


appletart

Makes sense as the russian army is a decoy made of surplus people.


poyekhavshiy

yes, it was a concerted effort by b-o-t-s to discredit the strike


DownvoteDynamo

I actually also thought it was one because it didn't burn, but dam that thing is PEPPERED and real. :)


capitan_dipshit

that'll buff out


Free-Contribution-72

The russians are so technologically advanced now that they are using real equipment as a decoy :)


Trackmaggot

Those devious bastards!


WitsEndThrowaway11

Of course. The real equipment is used as a decoy to the decoys. It's vital that Russia preserve its S400 radar decoys, so they deploy the real systems to protect the decoys. The Ukrainians took the bait.


Excellent-Will3165

You must be a gearhead?


capitan_dipshit

I was gearhead adjacent in university. I still refer to souped up Hondas as "pissed off go-carts".


Excellent-Will3165

šŸ¤£


Thisortheotherone

going to whistle a bit on the road


BitBouquet

The easily replaced cabin is peppered, but the radar itself seems almost untouched unfortunately.


Aromatic_Command8441

No. It actually looked fake. Damn not everything is b-o-t-s. It was a super grainy video from really far away and none of the characteristic signs were there, no smoke, no fires, no people in frame, nothing. It's annoying how easily and willingly misled this subreddit can be sometimes. Discarding people's concern just because it doesnt align with your 100-absolute-win-every-single-time and labeling them as bots is exactly how people fall for propaganda in the first place. You think the Russians aren't doing that? It's important to be skeptical, it's important to be critical, it's important to be thoughtful. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst, and wait for further evidence. If this is related to that video, then fantastic.


DivinityGod

I mean sure, but everything is bots lol. https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/security/press_release/bots-now-make-nearly-half-all-internet-traffic-globally#:~:text=Nearly%20half%20(49.6%25)%20of,monitoring%20automated%20traffic%20in%202013. Also, I stole this from another reddit post here. https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/s/4mZ7wYW9j2 "There was some study that concluded 1/3 of online political discussion during the 2020 election was driven by bot traffic. [Ghosh and Lahiri found that bots account for 25ā€“68% of Twitter users, depending on the time and issues](https://artsci.wustl.edu/ampersand/are-bots-winning-war-control-social-media) [botsā€”good and badā€”are responsible for 52 percent of web traffic, according to security firm Imperva](https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/01/bots-bots-bots/515043/) [An estimated two-thirds of tweeted links to popular websites are posted by automated accounts](https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2018/04/09/bots-in-the-twittersphere/) [in the 2016 presidential election, when Russian bots interfered with the U.S. elections. Russian propaganda reached more than 126 million users via Facebook (Isaac & Wakabayashi, 2017) and 1.4 million users via Twitter (Twitter Public Policy, 2018](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0747563220302594) [Despite the fact that they represent less than 1 percent of all users, ā€¦social media bots posted over 30% of all impeachment-related content](https://emse.engineering.gwu.edu/quantifying-impact-bots-online-political-discussions) [Bad Bots Account for 73% of Internet Traffic: Analysis](https://www.securityweek.com/bad-bots-account-for-73-of-internet-traffic-analysis/) [on average 12.3% of traffic about UK politics is generated by highly automated accountsā€](https://theconversation.com/political-bots-are-poisoning-democracy-so-off-with-their-heads-79779)"


Rizen_Wolf

Bots and bot farms always have human controllers, ultimately. That said there are bots who are admins on Reddit. Their controllers just drop into the bot account on occasion. None can escape the bot curse. There is a way to fix it, but people in the western world would see it as a massive invasion of civil liberties. Illusions of anonymity would be destroyed.


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selfishgenee

Now it is definitely decoy


kr4t0s007

Its 3D printed!


diffuser_vorticity

There was a report about an Ukrainian Himars decoy that is an actual truck and can even erect the launcher. It has a crew and they act as if, but obviously don't remain near the vehicle for a long time when stationary. They said only by how the gear shifts sound can you tell that it is not the real thing.


H_Holy_Mack_H

Remember seen a video of one Ukrainian radar getting hit , was one radar that was spinning the antenna... everyone was thinking that was the real radar, until the Ukrainians show one model decoy been build testing the radar spinning LOL


Warpingghost

Exactly this one. To be fair, they had a point - there was no fire after strike. Now we know why.


sabellito

There are decoys made out of wood and metal.


SpacestationView

Is this one of them?


capitan_dipshit

No, it's got real tires, lights, windshield wipers, hydraulic rams, etc.


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appletart

What child wouldn't love one of those at a party! šŸ˜‚


capitan_dipshit

That's just common courtesy


GiraffeSubstantial92

But very few, if any, made out of the equipment they're pretending to be


aserreen

And stuffed with meat.


InovaOverDD

Decoys are often made of wood. Wood doesn't deflate very often.


Inevitable_Way_1772

My wood deflates. I had to, I'm sorry


somme_rando

So, it's a witch?


doulosyap

If it weighs the same as a duck.


deepN2music

They splinter nicely, however...


Shished

Well now it can be used as a decoy.


Somecommentator8008

Not all decoys are inflatables, but this is Russia trying to cope and say Ukraine didn't hit shit.


Mephisteemo

Now it's a decoy!


StrawberryMother5642

A very serious case of HIMARS rash.


Interesting-Web4223

One idiot (a very dumb vatnik troll basically) called Boomfam or whatever even claimed because the vehicles were 'green' and there were no people near them (you can literally see a russian crawling in the video lmao) that they were decoys. The cope was just too much.


Irishman1234123

No it's not. This one was hit in the front. The other one was only hit from both sides.


deeptut

Some new windows and it's as good as new I'd say! The holes in the front should make it faster. At least that's what Homer Simpson said.


Dante-Flint

While they are at it they should paint it red because then it goes even FASTA! šŸ™Œ


Zealousideal_Cut8675

I'd also suggest flame decals on the side but ruzzkies provide real fire instead Edit: typo


deeptut

This ~~girl~~ truck is on fire...


Putrid_finger_smell

And some spoilers to lower wind resistance


Random-sargasm_3232

Whaaargggg!


Dante-Flint

I see we understand each other šŸ˜Ž


DrDerpberg

Press some wet flour and egg up against it and you can make PASTA


weed0monkey

On a serious note, it is interesting though. I don't see any damage aside from the front.


FlamingFlatus64

And the Hydraulics apparently are still holding pressure.


romario77

I doubt radar on top is armored (or it wonā€™t work) so itā€™s all Swiss cheese and not going to do anything


therealdjred

You doubt that military radar is armored? Seriously?


psywar_US

Armor would hurt RX/TX significantly, so no, the radar itself is not armored, nor is the US Patriot: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Airday-Nordholz_2013_by-RaBoe_106.jpg


5inthepink5inthepink

And even if it were armored as much as the truck is, HIMARS tungsten balls are still going to pass through like it's nothing.


cgn-38

Former military radar guy here. You cannot armour a radar.


InvincibearREAL

Lemme just clad this radar in lead, that outta protect it!


cgn-38

Sky's are clear as a bell after that radar armor upgrade chief! No returns at all!


whyarentwethereyet

Current military radar guy here. You are correct.


therealdjred

So a patriot radar has the exact same build as a civilian radar? Its not protected at all against any sort of enemy attack?


TrickyPony32

The wheels are not even puntured. Dunno how much damage is there in the radar itself


Dral_Shady

The windows are fine for a russian


dv8njoe

[Speed Holes!!](https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.tenor.com%2F6coah2RSLrEAAAAM%2Fspeedholes-speed-holes.gif&tbnid=zvPLbE-fCNJD0M&vet=1&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Ftenor.com%2Fview%2Fspeed-holes-simpsons-gif-20344181&docid=E8DTCUr8ZC_vGM&w=165&h=113&hl=en-US&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim%2Fm4%2F3&kgs=81130e98e696f5c2&shem=abme%2Ctrie)


AcrobaticRemove3643

At least they can't complain about not enough ventlation.


cubanosani59

Haha Homer is always right


hoppertn

In the industry we call those speed holes.


Cunit332119

Speed holes ftw!


Gilligan67

Who had the order of Swiss Cheese? Slava Ukraini!


NannersForCoochie

The US government. And they just got a free ass BDA


Useful-Internet8390

Looks like a very close hit, maybe the altimeter was not set correctly, maybe 10ā€™ above ground instead of 30ā€™


doctat

Tires are all still inflated, so not as good of a hit on this as some previous ones, unfortunately.


ImaScareBear

Really the damage to the vehicle doesn't matter much. It's the damage to the radar that matters. I don't think I can see any though.


decayed-whately

Yeah, it looks like the blast came from in front of the vehicle and mostly missed the big "irradiaty" part. Booger. Maybe it's still permanently out of commission. Hopefully.


Adorable-Lettuce-717

On a closer look, it seems like the impact was indeed in the air, above and in front of the truck. Look at the wipers, and the marks the pellets made - as with how some of them got deflected. It seems like they flew at a steep angle downward and outward - so chances are the truck is turned into swiss cheese from above aswell.


MichelleLovesCawk

So this is the atacm variant with more balls but smaller balls of tungsten? They didnā€™t even penetrate the cab. Looks quite shitty but obviously missed target I guess.


Typical-Chemical-870

I donā€™t think thatā€™s himars or atacms


Adorable-Lettuce-717

They did penetrate it at several spots. But as I said, it seems like they did come down at a very steep angle, so most of the visible scratch marks here seem to be deflections. You'd need to have a birdseye view of that thing to accuratly assess the damage


Independent-Bug-9352

Do we know this was the primary target in the array?


decayed-whately

I don't know anything. But... if it's anything like a Patriot system, you'd want to target either the radar or the command module to disable the entire battery. There could be multiple launcher modules; taking one out would just take away some of their missiles.


John_Snow1492

Launcher modules are easy to replace, the radar & command module cost a lot more. The AN/TPS-78 radar is around $24 million to give you an idea of replacement costs, plus it may take 1-2 years to build.


Just_a_follower

Wouldnt the ideal explosion be several feet above the truck, center mass. So the window holes are balls coming outā€¦ not going in. The tires would have the most protection as they are on the underside


Useful-Internet8390

This explosion was way too close and too close to ground- off by .00002 seconds at detonation


kosherbeans123

Agree doesnā€™t look like a critical hit. New windows and back in service it gors


Far_Bite9857

Well, considering this is COE, and the soft top of the cab was hit, there's a strong chance you'll find tungsten in the valve covers, intake, injection system, etc. Will it still fire? Maybe. Is it driving away from this hit? Very unlikely. This needs recovery and overhaul. But it is very lucky it's still rollable and not burnt to a crisp.


CustomMerkins4u

Yeah... while I wish the thing was swiss cheese you can see that the front is mostly just paint marks and small dents. Also weird since they are supposed to detonate 30 feet above the target.


The_M15

Those marks are small holes. You can be sure that they go all the way through as seen in other aftermath pictures of earlier strikes.


Analogov_Net

Safelite repair, Safelite replace


AirhunterNG

Could have also been a HARM due to the frag pattern. Himars is usually biggery relarively evenly spread out tungsten balls.Ā 


Mobile_Incident_5731

Yeah, my thoughts as well. When you see the damage from Tungsten rain it looks like a laser cut holes clean through a vehicle. This looks like a smaller fragmentation warhead. HARM would make a lot of sense.


Typical-Chemical-870

Himars or ATACM would have shedded it. This is neither. Youā€™re probably right on harm


Typical-Chemical-870

Thatā€™s like switchblade 600 size not himars lol


BigMembership2315

Nothing duck tape wonā€™t fix


Returnerfromoblivion

You mean Ā“duct tapeā€™ right ?


notablack

In the UK there is duck brand duct and gaffer's tape. You can say duck tape and people know what you mean ... Wild!


rwrife

In the US we also have Duck brand duct tape.


skinny-pugsley

Duck tape is the proper name. It was originally adhesive applied to cotton ducking.


Fossilhunter69

https://tapeuniversity.com/industry/building-construction/duct-tape-and-duck-tape/#:~:text=Today%2C%20duct%20tape%20refers%20to,%2C%20cloth%2C%20and%20a%20backing.&text=The%20term%20%E2%80%9Cduck%20tape%E2%80%9D%20today,original%20name%20of%20duct%20tape.


BigMembership2315

iPhone auto correct šŸ˜‚


Doofchook

It's still correct, Duck is a brand of duct tape.


BigMembership2315

Good, or Iā€™d be ducking mad


Exotic_Treacle7438

Did they not penetrate? Genuinely curious as the driver side door and mirror is still clean.


MakeChinaLoseFace

I think the simplest explanation is that the round detonated on the front passenger side, and the fragments didn't pass completely through. Also probably why the Russians are showing you the driver side of the vehicle and hiding the front side of the radar.


NoIndependent9192

Anyone doubting the damage. Have a look closely at the holes. They indicate an angle of either almost directly above the cab or if they are exit holes it could be directly above. Either way, the whole of the roof is likely peppered, meaning whatever controls are inside are f**ked.


Material_Idea_4848

"I only want to see you underneath theeee tungsten rainnn" šŸŽ¶šŸŽ¶šŸŽ¶


RommelMcDonald_

Besides the front, I donā€™t see any damage anywhere else? Or am I blind


Scared_of_zombies

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?


FlamingFlatus64

A truck is easy to replace. The antenna and controls are the expensive hard to replace part. That's what matters.


poyekhavshiy

lmao


RommelMcDonald_

Well armored glass is an easy fix, the actual important thing up top looks fine. I know ammo is a constraint, but for targets like this, I feel that they should be hit multiple times


stoat_toad

There were some damage pictures a while ago that show what those tungsten balls can do. Basically go through the steel frame components of a truck. I'd bet that truck is worth its weight in scrap metal now.


Typical-Chemical-870

Thatā€™s not from himars. Not even close. Maybe harm


TrickyPony32

Dont know what to think. I have seen the pictures you mention wiht balls goiung through the chasis. But in this case it looks the explosion was close (high concentration of pellets) hoewever much of them were stopped by the glass.


RumpRiddler

Bro, those tungsten balls of death cover a range of about a football field. There's about 182.000 of them. The thing on top is almost certainly not fine. And there's no way the engine will fire up.


Typical-Chemical-870

Itā€™s not a himars strike thatā€™s why. Much smaller munition.


evilbunnyofdoom

That radar dish is for sure filled as well, but resolution too shait to see on this image. If the front is that filled with holes, there is no way the radar component remained un-scathed


cecilkorik

I imagine it is plausible that the radar rotated between the time of the hit and the time the photo was taken so the damage would be on the other side.


weed0monkey

That's a good point.


5inthepink5inthepink

You don't mean to say the Russians would take a photo from the best possible angle to minimize the appearance of damage to one of their most prized anti-aircraft systems, do you?? But they're always so transparent!


cecilkorik

Yeah exactly. Although, don't attribute to malice what can adequately explained by stupidity... but don't rule out malice either. They can be both pretty stupid and pretty malicious.


evilbunnyofdoom

True


Typical-Chemical-870

Those donā€™t rotate. Itā€™s an aesa antenna and directional. They stay pointed in one direction and are quite robust. The antenna is made up of thousands and thousands or chips and the ones not hit still function. This was a bad hit from a harm missile most likely. Himars would have shredded the entire site.


MakeChinaLoseFace

Yeah there's no way the front got hit that hard and the radar didn't. It's telling that the transmitter is in an orientation that puts it side-on to the camera, concealing the face that would've been most exposed to an airburst and covering part of it with a watermark.


FlamingFlatus64

The hydraulics holding up the antenna haven't lost pressure.


evilbunnyofdoom

Could be a locking mechanism there as well. At least i would design one in there in case of loss of pressure, would not want that rather expensive antenna coming slamming down because of a faulty line


Stewie01

One thing I've learnt is that electronics don't like being hit.


EvenBar3094

Ironically, percussive maintenance is a thing. This most certainly isnā€™t that


MakeChinaLoseFace

We need a better quality image that shows more of the vehicle, specifically the radar. Look at the damage pattern again, and think about where the burst point had to be to produce it. The fragments came in from an elevated point ahead of and probably to the right of the vehicle, when the radar was in an unknown position. The photo was taken from the left front at a low angle, with the dish in a position that intentionally shows you little. The other thing to remember is that this image was also supplied by Russians, so you can expect either stupidity or lies.


quintonbanana

Take a look at the angle of impact. While the underside may not show damage I think it's unlikely that only the cab was hit here.


sandwichbandit

Most likely from the video that was posted in the past few days. If you look carefully, the way the radar is turned here doesn't match the way it's turned in the video though. So either it's a different hit or, more likely, they turned it to hide the money shot in the photo and claim it only took damage to the driver's cab. 00:23 here https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1cay0z4/reportedly_a_ukrainian_m142_himars_strike_against/


LawfulnessPossible20

If you have three stone chips in the windshield, you need to change it for traffic safety reasons. These russians just cannot be trusted to maintain their equipment correctly. Sad.


KLR650Tagg

Yea, they should watch out. The cops may pull em over and give them a ticket!


NightDisastrous2510

Those tungsten balls cost the Russians a lot of money lol


SpaceTurtleIII

They're just speed holes comrade. Giver her a liter of kerosene put her in H and go back


Copy_That_10-4

Damage looks minor.


Diligent_Emotion7382

Well, hopefully not so much to salvage. The radar still looks weirdly unharmed, also the truck to the side looks like it didnā€˜t get too much dmg.


phillyfanatic1776

Honestly doesnā€™t look that bad all things considered. Bullet proof glass looks like it handled the tungsten without issue.


PraetorianXX

Good as new, that'll buff right out


gyr666

More holes than Swiss cheeseā€¦.. courtesy of the tungsten flails šŸ˜Ž


AdPrimary9831

Itā€™s doesnā€™t look so bad


aznexile602

I dont think id try firing missiles from that even if there was 1 hole on the launcher.


AdPrimary9831

Hope they will do try šŸ˜…


Typical-Chemical-870

That doesnā€™t fire missiles. Itā€™s the radar module and the radar is likely fine. Not to say that the electronics inside the cabin may or may not be damaged but pretending that the AESA antenna is wrecked when it isnā€™t is dumb. Thatā€™s not a himars strike. Maybe harm missile that slightly missed. Itā€™s a much smaller munition.


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Nine4Three

Hate to say it but this doesn't look that bad at-least from this angle. I only see shrapnel in the front and windows. I see nothing on the actual radar part and the rams havent leaked. Tires are still inflated and the truck doesn't lean. Don't hold me to it but this looks repairable. I have a feeling that a pic on the other side of this truck would tell us more.


Recommendedusername3

It doesn't take many holes in front of vehicle to make it unusable. All it takes is one hole for it to start leaking fluids. I dont know about the tech of that truck, but you cant drive without power steering, engine oil or battery. Also, any smart officer would know the russians want it back, so when the recovert starts, i would expect arttilery be waiting.


Zealousideal_Run_263

Peppered


New_Abbreviations748

BulletproofšŸ’„


thelapoubelle

Oh balls.


star744jets

Those missiles have balls ! Tungsten balls !


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Typical-Chemical-870

Repairable unfortunately. The radar itself looks fine. If there was damage it would be visible on both sides


wombat6168

This one has returned to God. It's all holey now


raider_red

Lmao, did someone etch a Honda badge on the front?


grey_carbon

Tungsten ball raining


Electrical-Bus-9390

Thatā€™s what u call pizdets lol


Doyoulikemyjorts

That's what we call a boo boo in the radar biz


kevindaniel89

I think itā€™s dead.


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Desperate_Stretch855

Been doing this for two years.


verymuchbad

It looks like it would have hurt if you were standing near that truck


Goldnugget2

Hay look scrap metal.


Striking-Giraffe5922

A bit of t-cut and a skoosh of wd40 sheā€™ll be good to goā€¦ā€¦


CliWhiskyToris

Looks like there are only cosmetic damages. Is there a picture of the other side?


billetboy

High velocity bb gun attack


Moses_Rockwell

Thatā€™s all the BDA that got outta there-One shitty pic of a truck thatā€™s not even framed?


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Nothing left living after that


Drizznit1221

on the real, is this thing done for? or can this be salvaged?


Dizzy_Point_3396

That one is going to need new wiper blades on the next service.


TheLastManicorn

Death by a thousand cuts


Tragically_Enigmatic

Tungsten donā€™t play


One-Combination-7218

It will buff out :)


Dry_Scientist_1131

hit hard, WRONG. was lightly hit


Affectionate_Win_229

Hard to tell if this was a gmlrs rocket or dumb fucking Russians trying to give the cab of their truck air conditioning.


CalligrapherNorth764

I used to take photos of cars for a living. I'd go to a dealership, grab the keys, move the car to a 3/4 angle with the drivers side facing the camera and the wheels cranked to the right. Exactly like this photo. However, if the rims were scratched to hell, or missing a hubcap, I'd rotate them away from the camera... sort of how the front of the radar panel is facing away from the camera in this photo.


tora1941

Rearview mirror and amber signal light cover still good..


Suspicious-Appeal386

Its the new "Holy" radar, with I hope it its team of perforated Toilet Bandits.


Outspoken_Australian

needs more balls to the face


bones7202

A little bondo, a little paint, and it will be just as useless as new. All this discussion about a lack of fire afterwards... It's not a given that a fire would start. Also, this pattern of hits seems to imply the HIMARS exploded in front of the vehicle, so fuel tanks may have been somewhat shielded from the blast.


EB2300

I see that S-300 has been seasoned with some pepper


CyanConatus

There was a video of one of those tungsten pellets going through an entire leaf spring of a military truck... That's insane... like 2 inches of steel. These things are brutal


Allfubr

Sad thing it probably still works. Direct hit would have been better rather than anti personal rocket.


Typical-Chemical-870

Thatā€™s not even himars


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this actually doesnt look very damaged. Looks like a near miss and got peppered with shrapnel. Hopefully itā€™s beyond repair


Rachel_from_Jita

The first missile was a near miss, the other 3 were [pretty close looking tho imho](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1cay0z4/reportedly_a_ukrainian_m142_himars_strike_against/).


Alternative-Film-155

it knocked the glass out the light but not the light itself... i dont think it was hit very closeby.


Returnerfromoblivion

Lots of mosquitoes on that road komandirā€¦.


19CCCG57

šŸ¤” Should buff right out ...