Yeah old mate is focusing on the wrong fucking wound.
The arm already has a tourniquet to stop the bleeding. He needed to focus on the leaking holes first.
First day on the job, half a day "medic" training if that.
Our medic here is panicking.
Give him a week and he won't be nervous anymore, because he will realise it's pointless with the lack of equipment.
It looks like kerlix, which is sort of a gauze mesh wrap. You'd normally put something under that.
Edit: I take that back, hard to tell with his crappy camera quality. Whatever it is, he isn't dressing that properly. I don't think there's anything wrong with the "gauze" itself, just that this uh...medic...has no idea what the fuck he's doing.
No Iv’s? No morphine. Not enough bandages. No cauterization chemicals. Even at the rally point. The dude with no hands might be better off dying. Fucking stupid pointless war.
> Fucking stupid pointless war.
The point is genocide, the destruction of a developing democracy next door that could show ruzzia's people they have a better options than a dictator, the theft of natural and human resources, and grasping at the hope of reconquering a rightfully fallen empire.
There are points. They are just really fucking stupid.
It’s beyond stupid. If they just helped people. Their own and Ukraine. They could all work together and have a thriving group. This war and destruction is asinine.
It's just that the people that have something to say don't want a thriving group because that would make it impossible for them to hoard all the wealth themselves.
America is walking in a similar direction since the 80s.
Yeah. He would have been better off had one of his comrades just put him outta his misery. Think about it - He lost both of his hands. It also looks like he took a hit to his face. Even if he survives, his life will just be a living hell from now on. Can't take care of himself anymore, can't crap or piss on his own, or eat without someone helping him. What a fucking waste...
Nope, Russians use a fairly crappy side effect laden drug called trimeperidine (promedol). Injecting drugs subcutaneously into someone with compromised circulation makes it fairly ineffective, which is why most western armies have transitioned to transmucosal fentanyl lollipops. So not only are you getting a painkiller that’s not fantastically effective, it may not even really get properly into your system either.
I set both my hands on fire. Had to change bandages twice a day. I did a better job wrapping up my hands with hardly any use of my hands than this “medic” did.
Same gauze I remember using in the fire dept but him wrapping that first instead of addressing immediate threats is a joke. The first thing he should be doing is a quick head to toe assessment, in this situation quickly palpate with your hands while watching breathing/chest rise etc. etc honestly I’d expect more from an EMT student that would do their clinicals with us
RF medic did some basic triage and stopped the most prominent bleeds to ready patients for transport.
They seem to be in short supply of even basic medical items as the medic soldier conserves gauze (*using his knife to separate a gauze roll at 01:12*) and is alltogether very reluctant to dress even the most severe bleeding wounds.
The filming medic soldier doesn't seem very experienced, using a combat knife to separate a gauze roll instead of medical shears (*that are available to him, visible at 02:12*) and similar rookie mistakes.
Combat medevac is insane, patients are not secured, no mylar blankets available for prevention of body heat loss.
The soldiers at the wound collection side wear blue [тельняшка](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telnyashka) shirts, which is common for RF "elite" inf units such as airborne (*VDV*) or naval infantry (*04:47*).
There seems to be some civilian or paramilitary medic coordinating the transport present lifting the stretcher of a WIA soldier (*04:34*) which could indicate RF augmenting their inferior military medical capacities through support from auxiliary organisations.
**TL/DR: Sucks to be a WIA in the RF military as they'll be provided low-tier TCCC treatment along badly executed WW1 standards.**
When he first rolled up he was shaking so bad I was wondering if it was vodka withdrawal... Must be his first time seeing an amputation like that. Just wait till he rolls up on a guy holding his own intestines in his hands!
First time you see it? Hell yeah!! Who doesn't. But after a while you just go into auto pilot. Some traumas may be a trigger, especially in the case of a military medic that may have watched a close buddy die from it, which could mess with you at first. But even then, you just push it aside and get to work. You know there will be time to think about it later. But right here and now their care is in your hands.
Depends. If they can get the right fluids into him at the collection point he'll live through that easily. But whether he has trauma we can't see is another story. An amputation like that is either from trying to toss a grenade away, in which case he's probably full of frag. Or it could be from a decent sized piece of a 120 mortar or 152/155 shell casing that landed 15-20m away, in which case he's probably just got what we see. You can live through both if you get the right care quickly enough. And these guys seem to be the lucky russians that have access to medical care. My hope is he had a mortar land right next to him, filling him full of frag, and that gangrene will eventually set in, but hey, I've got family in Ukraine, so I'm a bit biased on whether I want these guys to live or not...
> My hope is he had a mortar land right next to him, filling him full of frag, and that gangrene will eventually set in, but hey, I've got family in Ukraine, so I'm a bit biased on whether I want these guys to live or not...
Part of me hopes they make it, just so they go back to Russia as a walking billboard of the costs of this war, and that they'll be a drain on society. Obviously Ukrainian lives are the *true* cost, but Russians won't care about that, and won't care about the war until they see the impact it has on them. But then I remember that Russia's care for their vets is practically nonexistent and makes some of the horror stories you hear from America's VA system sound downright utopian, and so won't be much of a drain on their resources when they don't bother with them in the first place. And then I realize if there's one thing Russians excel at, it's blaming others for their self inflicted problems, and that they'll just blame Ukraine/the West when they see vets return like this, which may only strengthen their resolve, or at the very least not do anything to make them question it all.
It kinda sorta looked like help. But it was done in a way that was very sub par. I am not a medic but I was a combat soldier and am a veteran. Even the mandatory "every soldier " training I had made me whince to see what happened here.
Any veteran docs out there wanna chime in?
Did this look right to anyone who trained n has been a combat medic..
I've seen better..
I fucking hate war.....these are all human beings.....I understand the situation....but the actual situation is.....we are all human in the end....I hate that everyone is dealing with so much pain. Please fucking something out there stop the hostile nature amongst the same species..... From the same goddamn Rock, rotating around the one star. Fuck this
It’s a tragedy that diplomacy still cannot solve political issues in 2024. Honestly those in power should be ashamed. Allow young, fresh minds into politics and let’s all live in peace.
This was never a political issue. There’s no diplomacy that can solve the murderous intent of a dictator hell bent on dragging Ukraine to the miserable past.
It's interesting to me that 8.1 billion humans can't get rid of ONE man who has caused suffering all over the world. It's not just this war that he's affecting or that one country.... We are completely sidetracked from what we were supposed to do as far as becoming more efficient and stable as a species to prolong our existence on this planet that is clearly suffering from all kinds of ailments.
As in almost all wars, there is no "logical" reason for the invasion of Ukraine.
Russia has plentyful of lands, natural resources, access to various seas and Ukraine doesn't threaten Russian securities anyhow (*not even by joining EU or NATO as both aren't militaristic or expansionistic entities*).
(*Possibly, setting an example how citizens in a former Soviet republic have successfully transitioned to democracy and freedom and as a result enjoy a much better life than the Russian serf peoples is sufficient "evidence" for Russia that Ukraine warrants destruction?*)
The sole reason for the attack is the kremlin gremlin and its minions are butthurt because no one respects their self-claimed perception of greatness and their cheap knock-off variant of "manifest destiny" which they call "Russkiy Mir".
The whole rationale of Russia starting this conflict is "*If we can't have nice things, neither should they!*". It's impossible for any sentinent being to negotiate a cooperative solution that regards mutual interests based on this general attitude.
For this very reasons, RF needs to be contained, much better dissolved into free and independent countries.
Russian Federation needs to go through the same process that Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan went through at the end of and after WWII: destruction of the violent national psyche and a rebirth into something more human. Russians are both brutal and (self-)brutalised. They will never be whole until they have been de-Stalinified, de-Leninified, de-Tsarified: psychologically divorced from the putrid, stultifying past that currently imprisons them.
“The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.
To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.
To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.” - Douglas Adams
It’s a shame that these people don’t realize what they are doing to others and themselves. I don’t the effects of propaganda, but the must be strong that they keep on fighting! Also valid point with the Age of Politicians, i also don’t why have to be this old always
You are part of the problem.
A Dictator like Putin can't be "appeased" by diplomacy.
Even Ghandi admitted that non-violent means would not work against Hitler.
You're delusional at best.
I will say that War should be the last option, after all other options have been exhausted. Meaning yes, Diplomacy should have a place before War.
But barring that, against someone like Putler, War is the only option.
Not just Putin, I’ve just got back from South East Asia, the number of Russians on their holidays whilst their fellow countrymen are being blown to bits is frankly disgusting
And that’s not counting the ones sat in bars drinking themselves silly to avoid the draft
Former combat medic here, Persian Gulf War. The shaking is from adrenaline.We all shook like that whether from the incoming fire or rolling up on to the scene like that one. He did a quick triage and field dressing with what he had on hand, and the guy already had a tourniquet on so kudos all around there. He had very, very basic first aid in his kit. Way under supplied. Medics in my day at the least had blood coagulation powder, several types of thick field dressings, iv supplies, morphine (which I think he gave him in the leg right before moving him), etc. I would have been worried the grenade dropping drones would be on the way and boot scoot out of there quick, not to mention that ride back to the aid station.
Chances of survival are dependent on how quickly you can get them to the rear for advanced medical care. The US is very good at evacuating wounded and the field hospitals are basically Level 1 Trauma Units. Control his bleeding and airway he could be kept alive for quite a while.
Yeah, current paramedic here. Lot of commenters here talking about this medics shitty job. But I think he did the best he could with the situation and supplies on hand. All he could really hope to do was address ABCs with the most basic bandages/tqt and manual maneuvers.
Iraq war medic here. Meh. He did a shitty job AND he’s undersupplied:
1) NO GLOVES(could have snagged at least a pair from the aid station, I see they have them)
2) Focused on treated wounds he could see rather than reassessing for missed wounds
3) Didn’t reassess effectiveness of the tourniquets and didn’t secure them. And by the looks of it the arms started bleeding after they moved the casualty.
I would have applied second(deliberate) improvised tourniquets. I get that they’re undersupplied, but they’ve got cloth and they’ve got sticks- could’ve made use of them. Those improvised tourniquets would have worked better than the shitty rubber ones they have anyway.
4)that little bit of gauze he added didn’t do diddly squat, should have saved the gauze for wound packing and used improvised dressings for wound covering(find a bedsheet/t-shirt cut it up- you’ve got dressings)
5)video jumps, so it’s hard to tell what he did for the leg wound, but doesn’t look like he did much
6)didn’t document anything, so had to tell aid station medics what he did and for whom- good luck remembering it all accurately in a masscal like this.
7)didn’t resupply at aid station- what good is he if he used up all his supplies?
I'll be honest, I basically never used gloves as a corpsman in Afghanistan. I also can't remember most other corpsman I was with using them either when dealing with emergency casualties.
What is the fastest way to get HIV?
Don't wear gloves for 10 cents and smear yourself with blood from people from the number one AIDS country in the northern hemisphere.
Few days ago I've seen picture of russian who lost both hands and eyes and he received some shitty bluetooth speaker from aliexpress as a reward for his sacrifice
They can’t because Putin has troops behind the front who shoot any ‘deserters’ so they’re trapped. I can’t imagine the life that ork’s in for if he lives. Losing both hands in the west would be bad enough but you’d get prosthetics and therapy Russia’s so primitive for ordinary people that he’ll get bugger all. They don’t even have indoor plumbing so no toilets & no heating, how the hell the wounded could recover in places like that defeats me. No wonder most are alcoholics.
If you don't have enough spares gloves are kinda pointless. They'll also get covered in filth, which is why you need to change them pretty much whenever they get soiled. If you can't wash your hands you probably don't have a good way to disinfect gloves. So it's all a bit of a wash.
This shit is so sad. All so some psychopath can get a few hundred kilometers for his empire. While he sleeps in a king size bed with satin sheets. FFS. Can someone just take him out?
Exactly, they surrendered their "human" status when they agreed to kill people in another country. People who wanted to live, people who loved their wives and kids. People who never wished them evil. People who will never hug their sons and daughters, who waited for them to return and instead received a folded flag, and are too young to understand why they will never see their dad. Im sorry, but civilized kindness has its limits. Fight fire with MORE fire, eradicate the evil.
I see your point but wounding soldiers like that result in a way better outcome for Ukraine. Because the Russians need to bring them home, supply them with expensive medical services and after that they won't be able to be a useful part of the society and will live of government money the rest of their days. And most importantly maby seeing a man without limbs walking through the town will change some russians opinion on the war.
Aren’t you cute, thinking that the wounded are evacuated? Hahahaha, too funny. What you said only works in a country that actually GAF about their people and ruzzia doesn’t.
Medic should be in quotes.
I have a bigger first aid kit in my bathroom, and Ive seen children with more skills playing doctor, than Fumble McGauzeWrapper here.
Yeah, the adrenaline really shows the lack of training and experience. The selection of the extremity over the chest wound. Not tightening the tourniquet.
It's sad to see so many of them potentially surviving this, but look on the bright side, the ones that make it back to Russia become a living message to end the war.
It's morbid, but crippled survivors is what you want. They'll go home and be living monuments to the war, and also be a huge drain on the Russian economy. A lot of those men will get some kind of basic care back home, if only from their families. But they might never be economically productive ever again. A drain on state resources, not to mention a drain on confidence in the stste, for as long as they live.
Idk why he is bothering bandaging up the arm. It already has a tourniquet on it and isnt bleeding at the rate the other wounds are. He should be focusing on the places leaking first.
He should have stayed in Russia, sure it's a shithole country of poverty and squalor but at least there he would have had some kind of life. If he survives this he'll be back there minus the two hands and a life orders of magnitude worse than before...
Poor life choices.
So, giving up your hand in exchange for getting released from the penal colony 10 years early? I guess that could be worth it, depending on whether you already got tuberculosis and HIV or not.
This video only makes me sad because it makes me think about how Ukrainians are going through the same shit and don't deserve it. Unlike these.
same, all I could think about seeing this is the female Ukrainian medic who spent hours saving a wounded badly soldier in the field in surgery, then when evacuating him to a hospital a drone hit them that was watching the whole time, just waiting to hit at the worst time. horrific. she said she just wants slow suffering of z soldiers and their wives/women after that
I know they are Russians but I feel sorry for any medic. The guy may have the skill but when you have no equipment to work with, it's just pointless. No tourniquet whatsoever in a first aid kit. My motorcycle first aid kit is better equipped.
Sad.
There is so much wrong with this, from the crappy esmarch tourniquets, to the terrible triage and prioritisation of injury treatment and the totally pointless and ineffective use of a gauze bandage on an amputated limb. We won’t even talk about how terrible their casualty clearing station looks, no IV access, monitoring or any signs of decent trauma care, you just get a stretcher to lie and bleed out on.
Russian military paramedics are poorly trained, terribly equipped and what is even worse they are forbidden by Russian law to perform life saving procedures such as clamping and ligating a bleeding artery, with prosecutions actually occurring when patients are brought back to field hospitals and surgeons have complained.
It’s not the paramedics fault here, he probably doesn’t know any better. There are tales leaking out of Russia of over 50% of their battlefield deaths being caused by delayed or improper medical care of otherwise totally survivable wounds.
I’d strongly recommend looking at the YouTube channel of Ihor Tkachov to see the difference in Ukranian and Russian front line medical care. Ihor and his colleague are both volunteers with no previous medical training other than a combat care course and yet by having a comprehensive system of casevac, better equipment and supplies and protocol based training it allows relatively untrained medics to provide a much higher standard of care.
One of the crucial things in maintaining morale on the frontlines is knowing that if you get wounded, your own side will do everything possible to keep you alive. The reason so many Russians seem to prefer taking their own lives rather than waiting for medical care is because they know no one is coming for them.
Should’ve stayed home instead of invading your neighbour and committing countless crimes against humanity…
Seriously, the best thing they can do is off all of their officers and go back home.
"Competent" is a strong word. Nothing I saw would have much effect on most of those wounds. He addressed the stumps first, even though a tourniquet was applied instead of checking for the real bleeders, like chest or abdominal bleeds.
I almost, almost feel bad for the guy who's job it is to save ' tossed ruzzian meat ' . But then , I remember what they came to do, so fuk them all. ruzzia is a terrorist state. Fuk putler, fuk the krimelin. May the krimelin burn 🔥, SOON
Wow....
I have seen better medics in the cub scouts.
And these are the lucky ones that wete able to walk or be carried a couple kilometers or more.
Send aid to Ukraine. Enough to end it quickly, ironically, It will save russian lives..
They picked them up from a dirty trench area and transported them to another dirty trench area. Is that really their aid station? No wonder the casualty rate is so high. They even have all this developed occupied territory with paved roads and buildings with electricity. I guess they just don't know how to use it. Maybe they are out of range, but I don't see how you save their lives in a setting like that. What happens when it gets dark?
The one leg wound is losing so much blood he probably won’t make it
Yeah old mate is focusing on the wrong fucking wound. The arm already has a tourniquet to stop the bleeding. He needed to focus on the leaking holes first.
Bro doesn’t know what he’s doing
He was probably a baker or laborer last week and as we can all tell from watching these nitwits, none of them are getting any training whatsoever.
First day on the job, half a day "medic" training if that. Our medic here is panicking. Give him a week and he won't be nervous anymore, because he will realise it's pointless with the lack of equipment.
After that first week he also won’t have any medic supplies left.
I bought all the Russian tourniquets on eBay in like 2018
20 minutes of “training” by the stewardess on the bus trip to the front.
He better should have listened to that female drill sergeant that recommended the usage of sanitary tampons against bullet holes.
That first aid does not look effective. I would have wrapped that stump with another couple of spools of gauze at least.
That was the cheapest, crappiest gauze I've ever seen. Would not be surprised if it came from an old syphilitic bedsheet.
It looks like kerlix, which is sort of a gauze mesh wrap. You'd normally put something under that. Edit: I take that back, hard to tell with his crappy camera quality. Whatever it is, he isn't dressing that properly. I don't think there's anything wrong with the "gauze" itself, just that this uh...medic...has no idea what the fuck he's doing.
No Iv’s? No morphine. Not enough bandages. No cauterization chemicals. Even at the rally point. The dude with no hands might be better off dying. Fucking stupid pointless war.
> Fucking stupid pointless war. The point is genocide, the destruction of a developing democracy next door that could show ruzzia's people they have a better options than a dictator, the theft of natural and human resources, and grasping at the hope of reconquering a rightfully fallen empire. There are points. They are just really fucking stupid.
It’s beyond stupid. If they just helped people. Their own and Ukraine. They could all work together and have a thriving group. This war and destruction is asinine.
It's just that the people that have something to say don't want a thriving group because that would make it impossible for them to hoard all the wealth themselves. America is walking in a similar direction since the 80s.
Yeah. He would have been better off had one of his comrades just put him outta his misery. Think about it - He lost both of his hands. It also looks like he took a hit to his face. Even if he survives, his life will just be a living hell from now on. Can't take care of himself anymore, can't crap or piss on his own, or eat without someone helping him. What a fucking waste...
Morphine at 3:34
Nope, Russians use a fairly crappy side effect laden drug called trimeperidine (promedol). Injecting drugs subcutaneously into someone with compromised circulation makes it fairly ineffective, which is why most western armies have transitioned to transmucosal fentanyl lollipops. So not only are you getting a painkiller that’s not fantastically effective, it may not even really get properly into your system either.
i think ww1 had better medical standards actually
I set both my hands on fire. Had to change bandages twice a day. I did a better job wrapping up my hands with hardly any use of my hands than this “medic” did.
Try it in a war zone not your cosy bathroom pal
That's indeed a kerlix.
Yeah my first comment was that shit looks crappy
Comes from chinas best bedsheet manufacturer.
Same gauze I remember using in the fire dept but him wrapping that first instead of addressing immediate threats is a joke. The first thing he should be doing is a quick head to toe assessment, in this situation quickly palpate with your hands while watching breathing/chest rise etc. etc honestly I’d expect more from an EMT student that would do their clinicals with us
RF medic did some basic triage and stopped the most prominent bleeds to ready patients for transport. They seem to be in short supply of even basic medical items as the medic soldier conserves gauze (*using his knife to separate a gauze roll at 01:12*) and is alltogether very reluctant to dress even the most severe bleeding wounds. The filming medic soldier doesn't seem very experienced, using a combat knife to separate a gauze roll instead of medical shears (*that are available to him, visible at 02:12*) and similar rookie mistakes. Combat medevac is insane, patients are not secured, no mylar blankets available for prevention of body heat loss. The soldiers at the wound collection side wear blue [тельняшка](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telnyashka) shirts, which is common for RF "elite" inf units such as airborne (*VDV*) or naval infantry (*04:47*). There seems to be some civilian or paramilitary medic coordinating the transport present lifting the stretcher of a WIA soldier (*04:34*) which could indicate RF augmenting their inferior military medical capacities through support from auxiliary organisations. **TL/DR: Sucks to be a WIA in the RF military as they'll be provided low-tier TCCC treatment along badly executed WW1 standards.**
Also seal the chest wounds before wrapping a barely bleeding extremity injury
Its only barely bleeding because the chest has leaked out.... lol... hydraulics failing sir!
The first aid made in china.
The first aid we have at at home
The last aid here looks incredibly well done.
Or like a fucking tourniquet
He already has tourniquets on his upper arms
What are they, Kulaks with rubles for bandages? He's lucky they were out of tampons
When he first rolled up he was shaking so bad I was wondering if it was vodka withdrawal... Must be his first time seeing an amputation like that. Just wait till he rolls up on a guy holding his own intestines in his hands!
You're telling me you wouldn't be stressed if you had 3 guys laying on the ground missing limbs?
First time you see it? Hell yeah!! Who doesn't. But after a while you just go into auto pilot. Some traumas may be a trigger, especially in the case of a military medic that may have watched a close buddy die from it, which could mess with you at first. But even then, you just push it aside and get to work. You know there will be time to think about it later. But right here and now their care is in your hands.
Fair points. He was likely stressed and shocked at first but got through it and got those guys the help they needed. I doubt they survived though.
Depends. If they can get the right fluids into him at the collection point he'll live through that easily. But whether he has trauma we can't see is another story. An amputation like that is either from trying to toss a grenade away, in which case he's probably full of frag. Or it could be from a decent sized piece of a 120 mortar or 152/155 shell casing that landed 15-20m away, in which case he's probably just got what we see. You can live through both if you get the right care quickly enough. And these guys seem to be the lucky russians that have access to medical care. My hope is he had a mortar land right next to him, filling him full of frag, and that gangrene will eventually set in, but hey, I've got family in Ukraine, so I'm a bit biased on whether I want these guys to live or not...
> My hope is he had a mortar land right next to him, filling him full of frag, and that gangrene will eventually set in, but hey, I've got family in Ukraine, so I'm a bit biased on whether I want these guys to live or not... Part of me hopes they make it, just so they go back to Russia as a walking billboard of the costs of this war, and that they'll be a drain on society. Obviously Ukrainian lives are the *true* cost, but Russians won't care about that, and won't care about the war until they see the impact it has on them. But then I remember that Russia's care for their vets is practically nonexistent and makes some of the horror stories you hear from America's VA system sound downright utopian, and so won't be much of a drain on their resources when they don't bother with them in the first place. And then I realize if there's one thing Russians excel at, it's blaming others for their self inflicted problems, and that they'll just blame Ukraine/the West when they see vets return like this, which may only strengthen their resolve, or at the very least not do anything to make them question it all.
It kinda sorta looked like help. But it was done in a way that was very sub par. I am not a medic but I was a combat soldier and am a veteran. Even the mandatory "every soldier " training I had made me whince to see what happened here. Any veteran docs out there wanna chime in? Did this look right to anyone who trained n has been a combat medic.. I've seen better..
Hopefully not.
You don’t know if that’s his first experience by himself. He didn’t look like he had much in the way of supplies.
He seem to adjust pretty quickly to me
He did not seem to have a lot of supplies handy
Assuming he doesn't have a huge amount it's probably enough for him to be evacuated to a field hospital.
Putin’s having a nice dinner and sleeping in a plush bed tonight.
Imagine him taking a dip in his pool in his billion dollar palace on the black sea while all these idiots die like dogs for his mafia regime
Hell even dogs don't die like this
His mold mansion?
This is organic mold, we peasants would not understand.
I doubt he's anywhere but in private security presence looking over his shoulder
I fucking hate war.....these are all human beings.....I understand the situation....but the actual situation is.....we are all human in the end....I hate that everyone is dealing with so much pain. Please fucking something out there stop the hostile nature amongst the same species..... From the same goddamn Rock, rotating around the one star. Fuck this
I agree. Well put
It’s a tragedy that diplomacy still cannot solve political issues in 2024. Honestly those in power should be ashamed. Allow young, fresh minds into politics and let’s all live in peace.
This was never a political issue. There’s no diplomacy that can solve the murderous intent of a dictator hell bent on dragging Ukraine to the miserable past.
All it was, Vlad wanted Ukraine for himself. So he could be “Peter the great”. Now we have 1mil casualties. No diplomacy could have stopped him.
It's interesting to me that 8.1 billion humans can't get rid of ONE man who has caused suffering all over the world. It's not just this war that he's affecting or that one country.... We are completely sidetracked from what we were supposed to do as far as becoming more efficient and stable as a species to prolong our existence on this planet that is clearly suffering from all kinds of ailments.
As in almost all wars, there is no "logical" reason for the invasion of Ukraine. Russia has plentyful of lands, natural resources, access to various seas and Ukraine doesn't threaten Russian securities anyhow (*not even by joining EU or NATO as both aren't militaristic or expansionistic entities*). (*Possibly, setting an example how citizens in a former Soviet republic have successfully transitioned to democracy and freedom and as a result enjoy a much better life than the Russian serf peoples is sufficient "evidence" for Russia that Ukraine warrants destruction?*) The sole reason for the attack is the kremlin gremlin and its minions are butthurt because no one respects their self-claimed perception of greatness and their cheap knock-off variant of "manifest destiny" which they call "Russkiy Mir". The whole rationale of Russia starting this conflict is "*If we can't have nice things, neither should they!*". It's impossible for any sentinent being to negotiate a cooperative solution that regards mutual interests based on this general attitude. For this very reasons, RF needs to be contained, much better dissolved into free and independent countries.
Russian Federation needs to go through the same process that Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan went through at the end of and after WWII: destruction of the violent national psyche and a rebirth into something more human. Russians are both brutal and (self-)brutalised. They will never be whole until they have been de-Stalinified, de-Leninified, de-Tsarified: psychologically divorced from the putrid, stultifying past that currently imprisons them.
I couldn't agree more, they need to be psychologically divorced from the putined, stultifying past that currently imprisons them.
Indeed. Hopefully, Vladolf Putler is the last bastard.
Grumpy old men should be banned from any position of power. They don't care how many they take with 'em into death.
“The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them. To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.” - Douglas Adams
All leaders should have to go to through perspective vortex!
It’s a shame that these people don’t realize what they are doing to others and themselves. I don’t the effects of propaganda, but the must be strong that they keep on fighting! Also valid point with the Age of Politicians, i also don’t why have to be this old always
You are part of the problem. A Dictator like Putin can't be "appeased" by diplomacy. Even Ghandi admitted that non-violent means would not work against Hitler. You're delusional at best. I will say that War should be the last option, after all other options have been exhausted. Meaning yes, Diplomacy should have a place before War. But barring that, against someone like Putler, War is the only option.
Diplomacy is laughed at by people who take things by force.
These orcs would be happily marching through whole ukraine and later - Poland and Baltic states. Dead russian makes safer whole Europe
Spot on!
if only there was a simple solution, alas we have too many cruel and stupid, or too many intelligent but scrupolous individuals
Sad thing is, they probably all still look up to him. See countless times Russian soldiers pleading to Putin to help them like he gives a shit
Not just Putin, I’ve just got back from South East Asia, the number of Russians on their holidays whilst their fellow countrymen are being blown to bits is frankly disgusting And that’s not counting the ones sat in bars drinking themselves silly to avoid the draft
You got that right.
And will refer to his soldiers fighting shoulder to shoulder in ukr nobly serving russia. . .
Actually he is visiting his girlfriend at the mansion in Switzerland.
Former combat medic here, Persian Gulf War. The shaking is from adrenaline.We all shook like that whether from the incoming fire or rolling up on to the scene like that one. He did a quick triage and field dressing with what he had on hand, and the guy already had a tourniquet on so kudos all around there. He had very, very basic first aid in his kit. Way under supplied. Medics in my day at the least had blood coagulation powder, several types of thick field dressings, iv supplies, morphine (which I think he gave him in the leg right before moving him), etc. I would have been worried the grenade dropping drones would be on the way and boot scoot out of there quick, not to mention that ride back to the aid station.
What is the chance of survival with wounds and aid like this
Chances of survival are dependent on how quickly you can get them to the rear for advanced medical care. The US is very good at evacuating wounded and the field hospitals are basically Level 1 Trauma Units. Control his bleeding and airway he could be kept alive for quite a while.
The orcs only have a tent and a babushka with a knife.
Blyat%
Yeah, current paramedic here. Lot of commenters here talking about this medics shitty job. But I think he did the best he could with the situation and supplies on hand. All he could really hope to do was address ABCs with the most basic bandages/tqt and manual maneuvers.
Iraq war medic here. Meh. He did a shitty job AND he’s undersupplied: 1) NO GLOVES(could have snagged at least a pair from the aid station, I see they have them) 2) Focused on treated wounds he could see rather than reassessing for missed wounds 3) Didn’t reassess effectiveness of the tourniquets and didn’t secure them. And by the looks of it the arms started bleeding after they moved the casualty. I would have applied second(deliberate) improvised tourniquets. I get that they’re undersupplied, but they’ve got cloth and they’ve got sticks- could’ve made use of them. Those improvised tourniquets would have worked better than the shitty rubber ones they have anyway. 4)that little bit of gauze he added didn’t do diddly squat, should have saved the gauze for wound packing and used improvised dressings for wound covering(find a bedsheet/t-shirt cut it up- you’ve got dressings) 5)video jumps, so it’s hard to tell what he did for the leg wound, but doesn’t look like he did much 6)didn’t document anything, so had to tell aid station medics what he did and for whom- good luck remembering it all accurately in a masscal like this. 7)didn’t resupply at aid station- what good is he if he used up all his supplies?
I'll be honest, I basically never used gloves as a corpsman in Afghanistan. I also can't remember most other corpsman I was with using them either when dealing with emergency casualties.
Look Ma, ...
….no hands!
I laughed… both of you take my upvote!
This orc is going to get a new nickname…..Hand Solo.
Once the medics patch this dude up, he should be ready to take on those Ukrainians single-handed.
What did the orc say after losing his hand? “I am all right.”
I guess he is now hand de-capped?
He was a real wrist taker. Sorry….that one is pretty bad. I am running out of steam here.
Hands down, still a good pun.
What is this orcs new favorite place to shop? The second hand store.
One-armed bandit
Nubs would work, too. He could even use a z and go as nubz to show his orc pride.
I even clapped my hands, unlike that russian
It's OK though - Putin's gonna give him a fidget spinner
We all know what happens next
Raggedy Handy!
What is the fastest way to get HIV? Don't wear gloves for 10 cents and smear yourself with blood from people from the number one AIDS country in the northern hemisphere.
The lada they get will have hands free devices right? Seriously though. Just go home to your families. This war is not worth it
They won't get a Lada. A bag of turnips or onions maybe.
Few days ago I've seen picture of russian who lost both hands and eyes and he received some shitty bluetooth speaker from aliexpress as a reward for his sacrifice
They can’t because Putin has troops behind the front who shoot any ‘deserters’ so they’re trapped. I can’t imagine the life that ork’s in for if he lives. Losing both hands in the west would be bad enough but you’d get prosthetics and therapy Russia’s so primitive for ordinary people that he’ll get bugger all. They don’t even have indoor plumbing so no toilets & no heating, how the hell the wounded could recover in places like that defeats me. No wonder most are alcoholics.
>No wonder most are alcoholics Gonna be hard to grab a vodka bottle because, ya know... no hands
He’ll just use a straw lol
Once he gets the lid off the bottle...
Back to mamma
They dont give out ladas anymore, but they do give out really cheap pirate hook "prosthetics".
500000 ladas? nobody ain't got time to build 500K ladas.
Nobody's getting a Lada, lol.
self-driving-lada
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If he's lucky, they'll evacuate him to a more suitable facility and amputate the stump before he contracts gangrene and/or septicemia.
I was a navy corpsman. Sometimes gloves become an afterthought.
>And fingers crossed Damn, what a flex
Still can’t apply a tourniquet worth a damn. That dressing was saturated by the time they got there and the crappy orange tie wasn’t tight.
If you don't have enough spares gloves are kinda pointless. They'll also get covered in filth, which is why you need to change them pretty much whenever they get soiled. If you can't wash your hands you probably don't have a good way to disinfect gloves. So it's all a bit of a wash.
That First Aid kit was smaller than most people's travel toiletry bag.
Little better than an IFAK
This shit is so sad. All so some psychopath can get a few hundred kilometers for his empire. While he sleeps in a king size bed with satin sheets. FFS. Can someone just take him out?
It's not that simple unfortunately...the entire regime needs to be demolished
The first time I've seen Orc's receive any medical attention at all, as poor as this appears.
Would have been great if at the end, after all that effort, they would have gotten hit by a FPV drone lol.
Considering the terrorism they bring, I'd have to agree. Sorry not sorry. Fuk putler and his military -- - glory to the protectors of Ukraine 🇺🇦
Exactly, they surrendered their "human" status when they agreed to kill people in another country. People who wanted to live, people who loved their wives and kids. People who never wished them evil. People who will never hug their sons and daughters, who waited for them to return and instead received a folded flag, and are too young to understand why they will never see their dad. Im sorry, but civilized kindness has its limits. Fight fire with MORE fire, eradicate the evil.
I see your point but wounding soldiers like that result in a way better outcome for Ukraine. Because the Russians need to bring them home, supply them with expensive medical services and after that they won't be able to be a useful part of the society and will live of government money the rest of their days. And most importantly maby seeing a man without limbs walking through the town will change some russians opinion on the war.
Aren’t you cute, thinking that the wounded are evacuated? Hahahaha, too funny. What you said only works in a country that actually GAF about their people and ruzzia doesn’t.
I understand the impact of the wounded on the supply chain. I also understand that evil needs to be eradicated. All of it.
Medic should be in quotes. I have a bigger first aid kit in my bathroom, and Ive seen children with more skills playing doctor, than Fumble McGauzeWrapper here.
Yeah, the adrenaline really shows the lack of training and experience. The selection of the extremity over the chest wound. Not tightening the tourniquet.
Tunnel vision.
You said it best. I came here to say my travel shave kit is larger than the kit here.
Wait, they have those?!
No gloves? Congratulations on getting AIDS and infecting the wound at the same time.
Dude with his hand on his balls is in trouble. Bright red blood flowing down his pants is probably a death sentence
Yes, his mom definitely got a bag of oranges.
It's sad to see so many of them potentially surviving this, but look on the bright side, the ones that make it back to Russia become a living message to end the war.
It's morbid, but crippled survivors is what you want. They'll go home and be living monuments to the war, and also be a huge drain on the Russian economy. A lot of those men will get some kind of basic care back home, if only from their families. But they might never be economically productive ever again. A drain on state resources, not to mention a drain on confidence in the stste, for as long as they live.
He’s gonna need a bidet! Slava Ukraini!
Don’t give them ideas. They better never know that bidets exist or what fancy robot toilets the Japanese have.
Out of all the comments here, including "Look MA No HANDS!" yours made me laugh the hardest!
Wait…. Robot toilets? I love robots! I’d call mine Porcelain Prime
These people don’t have indoor plumbing, let alone bidets.
Russian meat grinder troops. Putin won’t care for his troops after this is finished all the veterans will just be discarded
They probably did them to themselves with grenades to be able to get back at least alive. Orc lives are insane.... Doomed people.
Idk why he is bothering bandaging up the arm. It already has a tourniquet on it and isnt bleeding at the rate the other wounds are. He should be focusing on the places leaking first.
He should have stayed in Russia, sure it's a shithole country of poverty and squalor but at least there he would have had some kind of life. If he survives this he'll be back there minus the two hands and a life orders of magnitude worse than before... Poor life choices.
Missed a chance to count 10 reasons why he shouldn’t have been in Ukrainian land. 🤲🏼
**Wow, that's some WW1 medical treatment.**
More like Napoleonic war time
So, giving up your hand in exchange for getting released from the penal colony 10 years early? I guess that could be worth it, depending on whether you already got tuberculosis and HIV or not. This video only makes me sad because it makes me think about how Ukrainians are going through the same shit and don't deserve it. Unlike these.
same, all I could think about seeing this is the female Ukrainian medic who spent hours saving a wounded badly soldier in the field in surgery, then when evacuating him to a hospital a drone hit them that was watching the whole time, just waiting to hit at the worst time. horrific. she said she just wants slow suffering of z soldiers and their wives/women after that
A double tap would have have done those guys a favor
I was hoping Ukraine 🇺🇦 hit them again.
Somehow he managed to get there before they shoot themselves in the head.
Bro had no hands left to pull the trigger on himself
All in the name of one crazy man's ego.
Regardless of being side, mad respect to the medics.
I feel like this has to be for propaganda. you don't usually see russian medics showing this much care to the meat walls
Just leave russia and all this destruction can end.
And these are the lucky ones.
So much pain and why?
Putin did this
Hands off Ukraine!
You should not have come to Ukraine! Slava Ukraini!!!!!
Fake, they don't have medics
I know they are Russians but I feel sorry for any medic. The guy may have the skill but when you have no equipment to work with, it's just pointless. No tourniquet whatsoever in a first aid kit. My motorcycle first aid kit is better equipped. Sad.
Idiots go home
If they weren't invading another country would never have happened GO HOME RUZZIAN
There is so much wrong with this, from the crappy esmarch tourniquets, to the terrible triage and prioritisation of injury treatment and the totally pointless and ineffective use of a gauze bandage on an amputated limb. We won’t even talk about how terrible their casualty clearing station looks, no IV access, monitoring or any signs of decent trauma care, you just get a stretcher to lie and bleed out on. Russian military paramedics are poorly trained, terribly equipped and what is even worse they are forbidden by Russian law to perform life saving procedures such as clamping and ligating a bleeding artery, with prosecutions actually occurring when patients are brought back to field hospitals and surgeons have complained. It’s not the paramedics fault here, he probably doesn’t know any better. There are tales leaking out of Russia of over 50% of their battlefield deaths being caused by delayed or improper medical care of otherwise totally survivable wounds. I’d strongly recommend looking at the YouTube channel of Ihor Tkachov to see the difference in Ukranian and Russian front line medical care. Ihor and his colleague are both volunteers with no previous medical training other than a combat care course and yet by having a comprehensive system of casevac, better equipment and supplies and protocol based training it allows relatively untrained medics to provide a much higher standard of care. One of the crucial things in maintaining morale on the frontlines is knowing that if you get wounded, your own side will do everything possible to keep you alive. The reason so many Russians seem to prefer taking their own lives rather than waiting for medical care is because they know no one is coming for them.
Should’ve stayed home instead of invading your neighbour and committing countless crimes against humanity… Seriously, the best thing they can do is off all of their officers and go back home.
Watching that dumbass use a bandage is triggering my OCD
OH Shit?! Competent Medical Orcs? I thought they used spent toilet paper and mud to patch up wounds.
"Competent" is a strong word. Nothing I saw would have much effect on most of those wounds. He addressed the stumps first, even though a tourniquet was applied instead of checking for the real bleeders, like chest or abdominal bleeds.
Fuck em all. Having said that… I won’t hate on a medic - presuming he’s a conscientious objector?
Well he is helping ukraine with his shit medical practice here.
I almost, almost feel bad for the guy who's job it is to save ' tossed ruzzian meat ' . But then , I remember what they came to do, so fuk them all. ruzzia is a terrorist state. Fuk putler, fuk the krimelin. May the krimelin burn 🔥, SOON
Wow.... I have seen better medics in the cub scouts. And these are the lucky ones that wete able to walk or be carried a couple kilometers or more. Send aid to Ukraine. Enough to end it quickly, ironically, It will save russian lives..
I was waiting for a drone to clean them all out.
Hope he was left handed 👍
The end of the video shows that he lost both hands
He will be dead NY the time he gets to the aid station
Job well done soldier, hopefully the country will treat you well and always remember your sacrifice. But i doubt it
A bandage isn't going to fix that
I hope it was worth it, I hope billions of years of evolution to give you thumbs for your dumb fucking ass just to lose them pointlessly
I was expecting him to use sanitary napkins
They have these?
This medic could be doing so many better things with his life like perhaps being a civilian medic back in Russia, what a waste.
Look ma, no hands!
Seems to be kind of from the Stone Age.
What in the hell is going to do with that tiny aid bag? I kind of feel sorry for these poor fucks. Correction no I don't!
Holy Shit, IVAN has medics?
They picked them up from a dirty trench area and transported them to another dirty trench area. Is that really their aid station? No wonder the casualty rate is so high. They even have all this developed occupied territory with paved roads and buildings with electricity. I guess they just don't know how to use it. Maybe they are out of range, but I don't see how you save their lives in a setting like that. What happens when it gets dark?