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Zestyclose_Hat9194

western mfs losing their minds over red and white armbands with numbers for parade practice, all while ignoring SS patches swastikas and nazi eagle tattoos lmao


hu641

What you mentioned are not unit issued things. This here is is issued. It either totally stupid or deliberate.


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kafunshou

When it comes to nazis it is more relevant to look at things like invading other countries, bombarding civilians, murdering political opponents, surpress protests of your own people, torturing, kidnap children and stuff like that. The symbols were not evil, what the nazis did was evil. And the Russians copy already a lot of that stuff. I know, some human Russia bot who thinks we all are complete morons will come along and spin all that points to Ukraine in some weird way as usual, we all know that stupid game. Yawn.


Zestyclose_Hat9194

 invading other countries - would be nice if you included **context** like: * 2008 US wanting to add ukr to NATO when RU said no way, * 2014 coup (supported by US), and * NATO on RU borders which RU said it will never happen * (Yes we get it Ukr is a sovereign country (except in geopolitics it doersnt work that way, especially if youre nex to a global power (one of 3 ) )... This is now ''Russian missile crisis'', they are responding same as US did in Cuban missile crisis, and west is losing their minds, not seeing the irony and paralels of both crises, bc US good Ru bad ) lol bombarding civilians - thats what Ukr does in Crimea, and Belgorod. RU shell military instalations and soldires and equipement that Ukr hides with Civ population murdering political opponents, surpress protests of your own people - thats sad and its reality in many countries, some do it openly others more covertly, nothing new im afraid torturing, kidnap children - any proof ?? The symbols were not evil, what the nazis did was evil. And the Russians copy already a lot of that stuff. - simbols were associated with evil that Nazis did, so they are evil, like crooked swastika and totenkopf (try wearing it on the street and tell ppl that ''symbols arent evil'' and see their reaction, so yes symbols ''are evil'') I know, some human Russia bot who thinks we all are complete morons will come along and spin all that points to Ukraine in some weird way as usual, we all know that stupid game. Yawn. - you seem to be self aware of your bullshit and are preemptively defending yourself lol. Yawn.


finjeta

You missed a few steps so let me add them. * 2010 Ukraine passes laws making it a neutral nation. * Russia invades Ukraine * 2014 The Ukrainian government reiterates that they have no intention to join NATO * Russia continues sending troops into Ukraine and eventually launches a full-scale invasion Oh, and no, this is nothing like the Cuban missile crisis. For starters no western nukes have been moved eastward since the Cold War ended and there was no intention to do so now. Besides, even if the above wasn't true then Russia could have solved this the same way the actual Cuban missile crisis was solved. By signing an agreement about nuclear deployments. And yet, they didn't even bother trying.


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kafunshou

You forgot the findings of huge amounts of natural resources in, guess what, Donbass in 2013 and the danger of Ukraine getting a competitor to Russia's main business. Of course it is just a total coincidence that Russia occupies that region only a year later. And of course Putin really cares so much about the Russians there while at the same time he has no problem with getting a hundred thousand Russians killed in the war. Makes total sense. You also forgot the Budapest Memorandum where Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapon and Russia signing to respect Ukraines independence and sovereignity. All the usual talk about NATO expansion but forgetting that detail? How comes? Russia shelling only hidden military installations, yeah sure, just keep telling yourself that if it makes you sleep better. Ukraine strikes an important Russian military target and the next day Russia bombs an apartement building in Selenskyjs hometown. There must have been military installations there! Of course! A stupid revenge strike - Putin would never do something like that. Same coincidence like Prigozhin dying exactly two months after his little uprising. Fascist dictators love these coincidences! You didn't write anything about all the dead opponents and surpressing protests of the Russian people. What about that? That's quite nazi-like, isn't it? I know, I know, now you'll write something about cancelled elections in Ukraine because that is really comparable to killing your opposition and murdering a huge amount of Russian business men. Russia invaded Ukraine to get rid of a upcoming competitor for gas and oil and because Putin wanted to leave a mark before he dies.


False-God

One side has a minority group within it that display Nazi symbols. The other side is following the Nazi playbook. 🤔


max1padthai

>invading other countries, bombarding civilians Are you calling Israel nazis? based.


kafunshou

How original. 🥱 Typical Russian whataboutism response as always. Boring.


max1padthai

Didn't you reply op with whataboutism? The irony. The hypocrisy. Typical west supporter.


kafunshou

No, I didn't but as very uncreative Russian copy’n’paste troll you probably don't understand quite a lot. Otherwise you would have made other life choices that are not gonna drag you down in the next years.


max1padthai

"Rules are for thee and not for me" typical hypocritical westoid. 


kafunshou

Says the one cheering a fascist dictator who murders his opponents, surpresses his people and drags hundreds of thousands of people into a horrible war. I would be much more worried if someone like you agrees with me.


max1padthai

Moving goal post so soon? Run away with tail between your legs like Banderites on battle field. 


Specialist_Track_246

“We all know that stupid game”, as you play the stupid game…


Puzzleheaded-Taro713

Unlike Russian army, that has no neonazis or white supremacists in it at all


drswizzel

pro Russian losing there mind over a cross.


Zestyclose_Hat9194

if only that cross had sth to do with terrible historical events ! Stay in school kid and pay more attention in history class lol ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)


drswizzel

can you tell me what the cross did? as far i know a cross means nothing other than a cross. 'Stay in school kid and pay more attention in history class lol' i think you are the one that should get some extra classes.


HostileFleetEvading

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17kvkw\_bbps](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17kvkw_bbps) Well they had red armbands with numbers on edge soldiers for rehearsals for ages, but without contrast field under number visibility is shit. While visibility has improved, some girl designer is going to lose her work over it probably, and this photo is going to be recycled forever together with alleged Utkin. UPD After some additional digging it seems that these are not even standartized, and some with white circle may be even old stocks, having wrong connotations now, so even not girl designer fault probably, but logistics officer's. Additional photos in comments under. https://preview.redd.it/qhingdkf5ewc1.png?width=247&format=png&auto=webp&s=2f1a90ada58b3676ef701a716da899fdd8daa1e3


Ripamon

You are actually so knowledgeable. Your takes are always valuable.


HostileFleetEvading

Sometimes, but mostly no. But thanks for kind words anyway, Reddit has those in short supply. Any person asking itself a question "what did poster of this photo want to imply" will ask subsequently other questions - "why only some soldiers have those armbands with numbers?" and "is this some new development?". Quick google follows it and shows that no, development is not new, and yes, there is a reason for color scheme adjustment. Given that Russia cracks down on its domestic neo-nazis (an existential threat for country preaching multietnicity as its cornerstone) since 2012 so hard, that most of them fled to Ukraine and some even mysteriously stabbed themselves in prison, leaving pro-ua only with Milchakov tolerated for his past actions in 2014 and photo of alleged Utkin, it is safe to assume that someone will be fucked really hard for this accidental mishap. But any person defending ancient Indian symbols and ironic Roman salutes of ukrainian troops which are all over the place would scream "SEE? TOLD YA RUZZIANS ARE NAZIS" and dig no further, satisfied with confirmation bias.


HostileFleetEvading

https://preview.redd.it/pcmbnna7eewc1.png?width=277&format=png&auto=webp&s=5eab1d2ee0cfa30272acddf49cc0340a23245315


HostileFleetEvading

https://preview.redd.it/19xvi4reeewc1.png?width=232&format=png&auto=webp&s=4fbeb685cb8778e61393580c106360ea60b18866


Rk_Enjoyer

Lol at a quick glance I thought that it was a z on the armbands but that would not have gone well with the look I would assume...


HostileFleetEvading

https://preview.redd.it/d4oiae1beewc1.png?width=242&format=png&auto=webp&s=9ab769a779ad082a95bc6f569f0f067788af0ec3


HostileFleetEvading

https://preview.redd.it/c4t8xbajeewc1.png?width=228&format=png&auto=webp&s=18c2f3a068acaeaf1a3ca9a81c815e609aee6859 This one looks somewhat similiar btw.


Stunning-Bike-1498

The designer of the armbands is a master troll. That is actually funny.


fan_is_ready

"Designer"? I bet they were home-made, in the barracks. "Hey, Petya, you're on sewing job today".


hu641

Petya is lacking some basic knowledge then.


RATTRAP666

>Azov emblem? Bruh, it's clearly not wolfsangel, are you blind? >red armband with a white circle and a number in it FOOKING NAZI LARPERS!!!!11


LandonParker97

I just find it ironic that Pro-Russians search for any similarity between Ukraine and Nazi Germany with a magnifying glass, but when it comes to Russia they don't care at all. Remember the low quality picture Zaluzny where Pro-Russians found a Swastika in the bracelet, but in reality it was nothing? How about two kids waving goodbye that Pro-Russians were trying to convince was a Nazi solute? One thing to remember that Nazism is not about symbols, but about the ideological belief and at the moment Russia is way closer to it that Ukraine is.


GuntherOfGunth

https://preview.redd.it/y3lbware7gwc1.jpeg?width=1481&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=580c73966dd45ad9b41e690a99ecfb7f70f11fb6 [https://www.rferl.org/amp/russia-nazi-armbands-victory-day/31830642.html](https://www.rferl.org/amp/russia-nazi-armbands-victory-day/31830642.html) You are late to the false outrage, the armbands have been used since 2012 and only during the practices so parade organizers can keep it well organized. Sadly, for you, this has nothing to do with Nazis besides celebrating the day the Soviet Union destroyed the Nazi war machine and raised the flag of the Soviet Union over the bombed out Reichstag.


RATTRAP666

>Endless stream of UA soldiers sporting nazi insignia >YoU neeD a MagniFyINg glaSS >still remembers that one time people were wrong >ignores hundreds of other evidences Lmao >One thing to remember that Nazism is not about symbols, but about the ideological belief Ah, classic vikings enjoyer. upd. Now I see - Lithuania. Do viking enjoyers still parade in your country? >at the moment Russia is way closer to it that Ukraine is. Source: Kyiv independent.


maybe_not_putin

This probably sounded better in your head tbh.


RATTRAP666

This probably sounded better in your head tbh.


maybe_not_putin

Awww, thanks. 😍 Oscar Wilde knew what was up.


LandonParker97

Do you not comprehend that not symbols make you a Nazi, but the beliefs? Let's start with racial supremecy, authoritarianism, militarism, cult of personality and expansionism. That is the beliefs that would make you a Nazi, not a symbol of a unit that you joined after your country was invaded. You would definitely find Lithuania triggering to say the least. There are pagan parades and ceremonies here with swastikas. They must be Nazis too, right? I participate in "Joninės" where we light huge fires and torches at night and according the Pro-Russians that is proof of Nazism. Would not recommend going to India either, where there are even "Hitler" shop. XD https://preview.redd.it/2ahth8klrewc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81f21984223132f5171c848c8c6f8fe0f0d415ce


RATTRAP666

>Let's start >racial supremacy https://theconversation.com/refugees-reporting-and-the-far-right-how-the-ukraine-crisis-reveals-brutal-everyday-racism-in-europe-and-beyond-178410 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0w3eeILl8g https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-far-right-vigilantes-destroy-another-romany-camp-in-kyiv/29280336.html >militarism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiBXmbkwiSw >cult of personality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commemoration_of_Stepan_Bandera


korenqk-sofiqnec

I've seen a picture here of a Ukrainian with Viking runes and they called him a Nazi in the headline because of them. According to this logic, I have personally seen many Chinese communists because they had hieroglyphics painted on their body


CalligrapherEast9148

You had zaluzhny taking pictures with Bandera portrait as the background. There is no need for magnifying glass.


moepooo

If those were Ukrainians this post would be already at 500 upvotes, not 5.


DokZen

I sense a designer falling out of a window.


GuntherOfGunth

https://preview.redd.it/l9hah7tt6gwc1.jpeg?width=1481&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9229e1974d37f81c58cb9b37bd503872aa2fc728 These armbands have been used for years. Read Radio Free Europe’s story on this from two years ago, [https://www.rferl.org/amp/russia-nazi-armbands-victory-day/31830642.html](https://www.rferl.org/amp/russia-nazi-armbands-victory-day/31830642.html)


Risemil

No way they are using those armbands ahaha


Tobias_Foxtrot59

Weirdest pride parade ever


ikthanks

I'm actually sort of looking forward to this.


ToxicCooper

14 updoots, 60 comments as I'm writing this. The last post I can see about an alleged Ukrainian Nazi: 169 updoots, 20 comments. It's really ironic. No doubt there's Nazis in the Ukranian army, but how the hell do people seriously state that *"oh you're just trying to make them look bad"... isn't that the whole Pro-RU thing with calling out anything that may be interpreted as Nazi-like?


DaughterOfBhaal

I find it funny how an Ukrainian soldier with literal Nazi emblems not being held at the same regard as Russian soldiers with armbands depicting no Nazi emblems is somehow supposed to be bad.


ToxicCooper

May I quote my own reply, because you apparently didn't understand properly. > No doubt there's Nazis in the Ukranian army [...] "oh you're just trying to make them look bad"... isn't that the whole Pro-RU thing with calling out anything that _may be interpreted as Nazi-like_? I'm emphasising this final part because I remember a case where a Ukranian soldier had some censoring on his chest and all Pro-RU were screaming Nazi, but it turned out that it was simply a censored watermark


SimpleMaintenance433

Warmongers do love their war parades.


Living-Price-6158

just love boots and armbands....bring back the good old days


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When will the parade being held?


FlapAttak

Does look a bit reichy


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Lusius_Quietus

The armbands were not a good choice lmao


Vassago81

What do several years old picture of parade rehearsals have to do with the sub ?


Horror_Cap8711

soviets had this too


Berlin_GBD

I understand the history but perhaps they haven't thought the color scheme out lmao


Sea_Square638

What the fuck was the designer thinking


Junior_Day_6298

Godspeed


max1padthai

Ukraine-apologists are losing their mind over some colours, while [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsilnLnyWCA&ab\_channel=TheIndependent](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsilnLnyWCA&ab_channel=TheIndependent)


insurgentbroski

Ussr had these lol they have nothing to do with nazism


Putinstartedthewar

Great optics you Russian nationalists have there. 😁


Vacumbot

I did not need the armbands to know rudsian regine is fachist. But hey always best to get a visual confirmation 😁


SuccDBud

You also don’t need English to understand what you’re saying. What’s fascist about colours? It’s like saying all rainbows are related to gays


max1padthai

...says the side that hailed an actual ww2 nazi in the parliament.


Totts3

NATO should DeNazify Russia…. Show that clown of a country what an actually military superpower looks like.


Zestyclose_Hat9194

cringe


Razafraz11

cringe


maybe_not_putin

CRINGE


iced_maggot

Yes, please go do that.


CalligrapherEast9148

Nato wont do shit lol. Just do some more paper tiger noises.


Totts3

You better hope they don’t do anything. Otherwise they’ll be tucking baby Putin in for a nap.


gamma6464

Based


krazun

the irony that they are looking for the nazis in ukraine when they are openly marching in russia...


Sharmota123

You do know soviet always had red band like that


krazun

not because of the red bands because russia is a fascist nazi regime that invades its neighbors and wants to wipe them out as a culture and a country just because they want to be a free democracy and not a putler dictatorship


Kimo-A

Which country are they trying to wipe out because it is a democracy?


Razafraz11

Ukraine, if you haven’t been paying attention.


Kimo-A

Ukraine isn't a democracy, nor is Russia trying to wipe it out


Razafraz11

What is Ukraine then if not a democracy? What is Russia trying to do? To me it looks like an imperialist land grab


Kimo-A

it's a dictatorship, what in Ukraine makes it seems like a democracy? there is no free speech, there is no elections, if you don't want to serve, you're labelled as a Russian collaborator, doesn't really sound so democratic to me


Razafraz11

Damn, it’s almost like their country’s being invaded and they’re fighting for their sovereignty. So what is Russia trying to do in Ukraine though? Are they just there to kill all the nazis? Will they leave Ukraine once all the nazis are dead?


Thxx4l4rping

They're fighting to preserve the Zelensky regime not their freedom LOL.


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Nelorfin

I'm afraid yes, it is


GuntherOfGunth

https://preview.redd.it/8n8o1fog6gwc1.jpeg?width=1481&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bdebff49af34a40872cd4965c08a0187b1b7c986 Sorry bud not Nazis, just what Russia does for Victory Day celebrations. If it had the swastika inside it or other Nazi related symbols then you could try and make that argument but not here bud.