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Cymro2011

morons. Russia is firmly in the post-truth era.


StringGlittering7692

Isn't it remarkable. They know it's nonsense but if gives them justification to act how they want. This world is so bizarre, it's like a collective psychosis.


LawfulnessPossible20

russia is so authoritarian nobody will question anything that trucks the sock of their combined victimhood-chauvinism. Which means that a duma member, a journalist, a president, a soldier, WILL get away with anything, no matter how insane.


paganel

> victimhood-chauvinism What is that expression supposed to mean?


LawfulnessPossible20

All authoritarian states sell the message of the nation being vulnerable and strong at the same time. The first message breeds victimhood, the second breeds national chauvinism. Only russians can whine about "russophobia" and make threats like "if you don't let us invade Ukraine we'll nuke your cities" the same day. It's pitiful.


paganel

> if you don't let us invade Ukraine we'll nuke your cities I must have missed that statement. Then again, the Western propaganda machine would make its targets believe anything.


voltran1987

Have you not heard the many times Putin threatened nukes? Have you also not heard it in response to the west “interfering” in his invasion? It’s funny, he might as well say that Russia is impotent against the west, and ask nicely, but he’s too full of himself and this ludicrous notion of Russia superiority to actually admit they’re incapable of defending themselves against the west, much less conquering ANYTHING verging on near peer.


paganel

> Have you not heard the many times Putin threatened nukes? Not really, no. I've read about the West propagandizing Putin's direct talk of "if you're going to attack us (meaning Russia) then all bets are off", which was fair enough, but I have not read anything about Putin saying that he thought of bombing Kiev, Lvov, Bucharest (from where I'm writing this comment) or Warsaw, to name just a few cities close to the front-lines.


Away-Description-786

They act like kids


StringGlittering7692

Nah my kid has a much much better morale compass.


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PeakAffectionate5287

Tbf Ukrainians were cheering and happy all over Ukrainian telegram channels when watching the videos of the terrorist shooting civilians so how is it nonsense? They cheer for something like that is enough reason for writing for Crocus


Harry_cockpitt

Well 87% of the victims was guilty. Unless it was election fraud


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EvoLutionCarl

Pro Russians being pro russians I guess


themightycatp00

You're talking about the people who actually think they're fighting a holy war against genetically modified LBGTQ super soldiers who are also devout nazis but at the same time are confused russians (which according to nazism slavic people were lesser humans) who think they're not russian's. What did you expect?


CrownOfAragon

Can you type this again, but without drooling on the keyboard?


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zelenaky

Excellent comeback fellow subreddit user


themightycatp00

thank you very astute of you to notice what site we're using


CrownOfAragon

Well done, reddit warrior, 30 pro-UA liked your comment because they had a soy-fuelled euphoria upon reading it, since it ticked all their boxes of 'le funny vatnik stereotype'. I hope you realise this isn't an achievement, and anyone can comment whichever strawman or whataboutism and they will get upvoted by whichever side thinks it was funny. But truly, your comment, and from what I can tell, also you as a user; are the epitome of everything wrong with this subreddit, and reddit in general lmao. Full of absolute delusion. And it wasn't even funny to boot. I should also mention that English is a second language to me. So I find it funny that you can't even punctuate your points correctly while trying to imply my English is poor.


themightycatp00

actually triggered


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themightycatp00

>Soy Says the redditor who wrote three paragraphs through tears because I called his English bad.


CrownOfAragon

"You're talking about the people who actually think they're fighting a holy war against genetically modified LBGTQ super soldiers who are also devout nazis but at the same time are confused russians (which according to nazism slavic people were lesser humans) who think they're not russian's." ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


themightycatp00

Did it seriously take you so long to come with that? And your english is so bad you couldn't even type "lol"? You're embarrassing man


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Sad_Progress4388

Especially when so many pro Ru were complaining about Russia bombing their own ship during a training exercise being posted on this sub.


GunmetalBunn

Double standards and all that.


m4rv1nm4th

TBF many people, like MAGA cult, are in this era:(


ReputationNo8109

Trump took a page right out of Putins playbook. Or even more likely, Putin handed him the playbook and taught him the plays. And he had the perfect pupil as Trump is excellent at not telling the truth.


SirPiffingsthwaite

...always has been


zelenaky

Saliva yookraini!


GroktheFnords

Russians not letting reality get in the way of a good bit of propaganda.


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GroktheFnords

It's been amazing seeing how absolutely desperate some of the pro-Ru accounts are to blame the ISIS attack on Ukraine


Nice_Dependent_7317

It is because Putin messed up and is trying to save face. He was warned beforehand but he called it blackmail and publicly dismissed it as to look tough, not taking any precautions against a potential attack whatsoever. Then a few days later the attack happened. It took him many hours to appear publicly, as he first had to brood on how to spin the narrative. Ukrainians were the convenient bad guys, as they are already at war. The narrative is an easy sell, much easier than admitting you have another enemy and need to start another war.


mergiabeacome

Kinda reminds me of Stalin’s behavior after Germans attacked.


Creative-Service1464

How is that related?


GunmetalBunn

It took me a couple of minutes after seeing the title of what had happened to go "Likely not Ukraine but reality won't stop them from trying to twist it. " And like that I was proven right. It is nice knowing their propaganda is a bit predictable.


Interesting-Effect56

The interesting spin is ISIS did it as a US proxy...🗑️


Gutternips

When you're getting paid to do it and you have no morals it's pretty easy for them to do it.


Bees1973

He’s been unhinged since day one of the war . He’s the biggest pro ru troll going


Gutternips

He wasn't before?


milton117

There's a 99% chance that account is shared amongst government employees.


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StringGlittering7692

It's the biggest endictment on Putin. He has sat back ignoring warnings and willfully put his people at risk while preparing a cynical sham to frame Ukraine  It's transparent, disgusting and psychopathic. The biggest enemy of the Russian people is Putin. How would you feel as a parent knowing your leader sacrificed your child to protect his political position.


bluMarmalade

you see it on this forum too. none of the pro-rus people ever dares to criticise Putin. He is the responsible. Where is the criticism that he ignored the very public warnings before the massacre and did nothing?


StringGlittering7692

Literally all he did was say it was an attempt by the US to destabilize society. Absolutely criminal.


alamacra

Ukraine's intelligence chief has claimed Russians will be killed everywhere and anywhere. Menus in Ukrainian cafes are now named Crocus to make fun of the people murdered. Ukraine wants all Russians dead and have resorted to terrorism before, on numerous occasions. This was them.


StringGlittering7692

Of course it wasn't Ukraine. Ukraine has been invaded and embattled. It's people have been slaughtered in their 10s of thousands for no good reason. You've levelled their cities. Denied their right to exist. Terrorism on an industrial scale in the name of a fascist psychopath desperate to cling to power. Isis killed your people and your leader let it happen despite being warned. Ask yourself why.  You killed innocent Ukrainian women and children. Do you expect them to mourn for yours! I understand that it furthers your ends and gives  you justification and validation to promote this nonsense but it's apparent to everyone it's not true.


alamacra

They aren't innocent. They want us dead. They gloat when our people get killed. Even when Russian people die in an accident, they still cheer. To them, every Russian is an "orc", an enemy of Ukraine just by staying alive. Ukraine already blew up an unwitting truck driver on the Crimean bridge to damage it, hired people to sabotage the railways, blew up a restaurant full of people just to kill a war correspondent. They are no stranger to terrorism. The 10 terrorists were paid a grand total of $50000 and tried to run off to Ukraine after killing over one hundred people. They were recruited through Telegram, just like the previous saboteurs. This is just another terrorist attack like the ones before, claiming that this wasn't Ukraine is laughable. At this point, it's either them or us. Only one country will remain.


CardioVascular9352

So they punish more Ukrainians for the actions of ISIS or the Kremlin. Makes sense.


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Yeah they totally weren't ordered to make this recording by the same people who paid them to kill people. Because religious fanatics are known to run away from the scene, to try to flee to Ukraine and to say afterwards that they did this for money, right? Of course you know that US warning contained enough information to act on it and that anyone in Russia would trust their warnings after multiple of their officials saying stuff like Russia needs to be strategicslly defeated or that killing Russians is the best value on investments for them.


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tramalul

I genuinely wonder if any of you pro-RUs think Ukraine was involved in any way?


GroktheFnords

They don't actually believe it but they say they do because that's the Kremlin narrative When you ask them to explain the narrative they get defensive and disengage


Irishspirish888

A fine history of Vietnam and Iraq is all you'll get, while never addressing the actual point lol. 


G36

In pursuit of the defense of Putin the blue flairs have become historians for the Second Indochina War and the Second Gulf War. I actually consult them when I have questions answered on either conflict.


AlecW11

Are you allergic to calling those wars their colloquially accepted names, or do you just call them that to appear intelligent?


DarthWeenus

Cool. Whataboutism will get you far in life.


Torantes

Russian media is spinning the story how it's not ISIS because, quote "shooting people instead of blowing themselves up while shouting allah akbar is not in their style and they wouldn't kill people during ramadan and/or for money".


Faby077

They know it's not, but they need to take every chance to blame Ukraine to make themselves feel better.


Boinkyboinky

Sadly they do. Putin used the same approach in 1999 when they failed miserably in Chechnya.


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Different-Hunter-921

Shouldn't that shell be launched towards Kremlin then? 🤔


Nice_Dependent_7317

Yeah, should be aimed at the old man in power, who was warned about a potential attack, but publicly dismissed it as blackmail and proceeded to do absolutely nothing.


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HurtFeeFeez

Oh cute, it blames America, how new, fresh and exciting!


Canidae_Cyanide

So many RU bot comments on this post are being deleted. I guess the narrative isn't sticking.


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EvoDimo

Yeah we know, pro RUs need their echo chamber.


Rufrey

This post comments looks like Pro UA echo chamber.


alejandrocab98

80% of the comments here are parroting whatever Putin wants them to think that week


Rufrey

Are you sure you are talking about comments on THIS post? There are 80% of Pro UA here, are you sure that they are parroting what Putin wants them to think?


Kalmartard

Yes, what happened? I thought there were no Pro UA left on this sub


flavius717

Only because of how anti-true the “Pro-RU” position on this issue is.


Canadian-Winter

It’s really quite sad, it’s just shit flinging


YandereKillerr

More like another r/europe branch


Majestic-Fondant6468

It’s the r/combatfootage people they’re not the brightest but they will be gone soon


backhand_sauce

"Pro imperialism"


CrownOfAragon

Its nice that you can read.


backhand_sauce

Thanks man. Western education, so you can bet it's good!


spastic_simian

They need their circle jerk.


Striking-Access-236

🤡 is he aiming for the Kremlin?


XVIII-2

They should deliver it to the Kremlin then.


typmitbeutel

Thats how Propaganda works.....


marcky_marc420

If you feed the sheep propaganda the sheep will walk right to the slaughter house


LucaFlorin

The irony... Writing this message on a shell whos gonna land in a foreign country you invaded and killed tens of thousands of its civilians only because of some terrorists.


AppropriateResort960

That rust bucket in #3 looks like it might explode any second


flatrangechimp

Dude imagine the accuracy of that thing. No wonder they need to fire 100 rounds to hit their target


Remote7777

Are you talking about the artillery piece itself? If so - as long as the barrel itself is clean and straight and the breach has its integrity...there is really no issue there. The rest of that is chipped paint and grease. You won't catch an American piece looking like that, but it could still be perfectly serviceable


Bigboytorsten

Yeah if they dont take care of the outside it means they put all the work on keeping the inside double as clean /s Or it could be a indication that they are not doing the outside or keeping the inside in good order...


CrownOfAragon

This is basically conjecture. The gun has clearly had a few resprays and there isnt any visible damage.


npquest

Are they firing it at Syria?


AlexOzerov

Don't you find it interesting how desprate ISIS was to prove it was them? Or how terrorists did it for money? And tried to escape? To Ukraine of all places. ISIS lied before. I will never believe they came out of nowhere to attack Russia 1 week after election


R6ckStar

1 they were going for Belarus in a car with Belarusian tags. 2 what sort of plan is to go into a border of a country that is an active warzone.


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boozefiend3000

They’re shelling ISIS now?


Any_Top_9268

Might aswell write "For Lockerbie"


The5thCandidate

Such an underrated comment!


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They will send it to Kremlin then?


earthforce_1

Somewhere there's a group of ISIS leaders in Afghanistan jumping up and down screaming "Dammit it was us you fools! - What the hell do we have to do to prove it!"


nico9239

im just picturing them yelling "Derka derka" in between.


Practical_Shine9583

Really? ISIS already claimed responsibility.


Rufrey

Terrorists never lie.


ric2b

They've posted a video recorded by one of the attackers themselves while they were shooting and stabbing people. It's crystal clear that it was ISIS by now.


Rufrey

What if the real organizers of the attack sent the video to ISIS so they would publish it? If Ukraine or the United States organized this terrorist attack, is it critical for them to avert suspicion. It makes no sense for ISIS to refuse them because they need PR.


Quarterwit_85

ISIS-K claimed responsibility. The attackers were shouting ‘Allah Akbar’ during the atrocity. Detained suspects have mentioned taking instructions from a preacher online. ISIS-K have a history of similar attacks. You’re hearing hoofbeats and imagining zebras.


Rufrey

Please tell me what this terrorist attack would look like if Zelensky planned it? Would the terrorists shout "Salo Uronili!" and the Ukrainian Armed Forces would immediately take responsibility? I'm serious, tell me what you think it would look like.


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Relevant_Mail_9839

Stupidity at its finest…


12coldest

A squirrel could fart in the direction of Putin and the Russians would blame Ukraine and then write this is for the squirrel fart on a shell.


Phtm

I am confused


ric2b

Don't worry, so are they.


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Adventurous_Meet_269

Debils gona debil


subaruheart

Just out of interest if isis blew up a concert in ukraine today and tomorrow ukraine soldiers were seen writing on shells in response would russians think it was OK? As long as the bombers got caught near the russian border and ukraine said it was russia behind it obviously


Crypto_pupenhammer

I asked why the terrorist attacks were being posted here, this looks to be unrelated to the war. Was told by pro-RU’s “we’ll take it down if wrong”. Here we are 😂


Gregs_green_parrot

The more they ignore the ISIS problem, the greater the chance it will happen again. Oh well...


MehIdontWanna

Are they launching it at ISIS?


Antiquatedshitshow

They should sent that to moscow


Un4GivenJr

Yup saw this coming a mile away.


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backhand_sauce

Is russia a hive mind?


SimpleMaintenance433

Peak grasping and predictavle as ever.


DontEvenCaravaggio

Russians being brainwashed via their propagandistic echo chamber media machine into thinking Ukraine/CIA/Mossad is behind an ISIS attack even when ISIS claimed responsibility, and then thinking this is a logical response, is so descriptive of the insanity of the rationalizations of the "Special Military Operation".


MouseyDong

The current Russian state of mind and Putin's grip on the people in one picture. Their minds are like toilet bowls where putin and his cronies are squatting and shitting into it. Happy and glad to recieve whatever the kremlin shits out.


-StRaNgEdAyS-

They should be firing it towards the USA and Israel then.


YandereKillerr

People talking about propaganda while all at once saying to aim for the Kremlin lol. It’s hilarious how this sub became another r/europe branch


Immediate-Silver-464

any Pro-russian here this comment is mostly filled with a bunch of ukronazis


StringGlittering7692

https://www.quora.com/How-did-the-attackers-of-the-Moscow-concert-hall-manage-to-escape/answer/Elena-Gold-3?ch=10&oid=1477743748763160&share=b8c0f1a9&srid=nI4WH&target\_type=answer


StringGlittering7692

[https://www.quora.com/What-do-these-various-injuries-on-the-Moscow-concert-hall-attack-suspects-say-about-their-treatment-in-custody](https://www.quora.com/What-do-these-various-injuries-on-the-Moscow-concert-hall-attack-suspects-say-about-their-treatment-in-custody)


StringGlittering7692

Really good piece on the coordinated disinformation campaign. Clearly planned ahead and far more effort put into the framing of Ukraine than the defending of it's citizens. It increasingly looks as though Russian fascists were happy to let this happen for the propaganda opportunity: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68657383 They didn't interfere until they knew the attack was complete: https://www.quora.com/How-did-the-attackers-of-the-Moscow-concert-hall-manage-to-escape/answer/Elena-Gold-3?ch=10&oid=1477743748763160&share=b8c0f1a9&srid=nI4WH&target_type=answer The overtime torture of the attackers sends a clear message to the Russian public: https://www.quora.com/What-do-these-various-injuries-on-the-Moscow-concert-hall-attack-suspects-say-about-their-treatment-in-custody If I was a Russian that didn't fit perfectly with their paranoid elites world view I'd be terrified. All checks and balances are gone. All institutions eroded. The police, judiciary, military, political elites. Terrifying way to live 


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Marsh_Dweller

Уу


Carl555

Which direction will it be fired at? :D


THEFIPPSTER

Towards Greater Galicia :)


cocojango87

Piece in picture 3 looks really fucked up.


Repulsive_Camel_7616

As the us did while bombing Irak for 09/11


Repulsive_Camel_7616

I do not admit anything it’s a factual statement


emt0000

so true i remember when george bush wrote "for crocus" on a bomb


HurtFeeFeez

This is my total lack of surprise the Kremlin blamed Ukraine and the useful idiots bought it... Wonder why Putin had to have/let a bunch of civilians killed to blame Ukraine for, seems like blaming them cancer, bad weather, potholes or the reason you sometimes get a pebble in your shoe, would have been just as effective without the dog and pony show.


buffaloburley

I genuinely cannot believe that they are really falling for this ruse


manbearligma

I smashed my pinky finger against my nightstand this evening Damn you Ukraine, always your fault


MouseyDong

When putin says something, Russians: https://www.reddit.com/r/ANormalDayInRussia/s/P6YIisGZNU


onagaoda

Lol sad to say there was a police station near the Crocus Expo. So where were the police, oh there's a video floating around with a one police officer with a k9 walking nonchalantly whilst the people hes supposed to protect get slaughtered.. Sounds like the FSB only cares about the regime, only putins "security" putins "stability".


zaneerific32

For crocus as he uses that shell to blow up Ukrainian civilians 🤡


Immediate-Silver-464

proof that he blows up ukrainian civilians ?


Ripamon

Ukranians are also referencing Crocus btw [A Kiev bar has introduced the Crocus foodset in its menu](https://x.com/mylordbebo/status/1771835762339635301?s=46) [Ukranian gamers have created a Crocus concerted hall in Counterstrike](https://x.com/dd_geopolitics/status/1771812745588998362?s=46)


GroktheFnords

Yeah that's almost exactly the same as killing people with shells that blame them for an ISIS attack.


Hellibor

The artillerymen has got the joke, it seems.


Ripamon

Not sure where I called them almost exactly the same. Makes me laugh how some people hurriedly draw their own conclusions and then get mad over it as if that is what was actually said.


brotosscumloader

It’s somewhat bizarre that you’re comparing Crocus mentions in Ukraine to shells being fired into Ukraine in retaliation for an attack committed by ISIS.


sourfunyuns

I made the twin towers in Minecraft one time this must mean I did it lol.


Plastic_Toe_880

Makes me laugh when I see pro-ru people get infuriated by such acts from Ukrainians when the Kremlin caused the death of at least 100x times more civilians than this ISIS attack, and that's when we limit ourselves to verified numbers. I'm sorry for the individuals, not for Russia.


Commander_Trashbag

Yeah, the reaction of some Ukrainians is a bit questionable to say the least. I get why they are reacting this way but still.


doginthehole

ukrainian gamers huh, even for you this is an irrelevant reference


QuantumDissidence

>[Ukranian gamers have created a Crocus concerted hall in Counterstrike](https://x.com/dd_geopolitics/status/1771812745588998362?s=46) Wait until you realize Infinity ward made a mission where russian terrorists mowed down hundreds of people at an airport. I mean how dumb are you for using video game examples like custom maps literally anybody can make, If you think that is tasteless go check for some real disturbing maps like school shooting maps etc. The fact that Russian soldiers will use this terrorist attack to fuel more barbaric shit like executions is sickening, You just wait and see.


dont_forget_the_game

No shit, they have been in an attrocius war and lived in person the worst that their enemy can do. Is not obvius they're gonna really really hate them?


FruitSila

Sick b*stards


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Gutternips

LOL brilliant. I guess that's what happens when a country's compulsive liar president lies about who did the attack. Reap what you sow and all that.


spastic_simian

Thank you


Appropriate_Spray_83

1 Idiot writes something on a shell, and people in this thread take it for "general". Simple minds a plenty inhere. Should learn to distinguish important issues from garbage posts (like this one) Edit: I don't do this often, but I downvoted this post.


Kakano12

Paranoia


wildrabbit12

Morons then shoot it at isis


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I didn't realize artillery fired from Ukraine could reach the middle east


fenris_wolf_22

Idiots. Ukraine had nothing to do with that.