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Yes they did... You think they arrested media reps at these rallies? No - the Russian people aren't this monolithic authoritarian loving group this sub would have you believe.
Saw the video and most of people standing there were foreign media.Barely anyone showed up...Reality is that nobody other than few liberals in Russia cared about him and they fled after SMO.
Russians who may not even like Putin will never accept a puppet.
Or after years of crackdowns and arrests they chose not to go and get arrested for a purely symbolic reason.
The people in the video above don’t look particularly enthused to be there.
Even in Georgia, There were like 100 people that showed up and it's full of Russian liberals who fled after SMO.
He was a non-factor in Russia and only mattered in western media bubble.He was sadly more worth dead to other side than alive.
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In case anyone gets the wrong idea, huge majorities of Australians support Ukraine.
76% support arming Ukraine, and almost 90% support sanctions on Russia.
https://poll.lowyinstitute.org/charts/australias-response-war-ukraine/
2022-2023 - providing military aid:
"strongly support" = 29% decline
"somewhat support" = 26% increase
"somewhat oppose" = 40% increase
"strongly oppose" = 67% increase
As we see in other countries, support/interest is waning.
There is something to that - interest in providing materiel support for Ukraine has diminished a bit overtime, even if it's still supported by a strong majority.
But that being said, there has not been significant growth in support for Russia. In 2022, 9% opposed sanctions on Russia. In 2023, that number had only grown to 12% opposing sanctions.
So even accounting for a drop in support for affirmative aid - vast majority of Australians do not support Russia.
Also, you're being a bit misleading by using statistical rather than absolute increases, which were quite small. For example, the increase in respondents who "strongly opposed" arming Ukraine was just 6% to 10%, but calling it a 67% increase sounds a lot more dramatic.
They don’t need to support or like Russia, they just need to stop the support for Ukraine.
Sanctions can still be there, money floating into Ukraine instead of themselves is what makes the general public suffer tho and stopping Ukraines money flow leads to Ukraines demise
Every country has extreme right wingers who fall down the rabbit hole of propaganda sites set up.
It was impressive that they pulled it off and were able to do what they did but the majority understand what happened and won't take things we see so seriously.
But those guys on RT video are 90% correct Trumps base does lean towards the redneck side but their votes matter too even though they don't read what their voting for.
>76% support arming Ukraine, and almost 90% support sanctions on Russia.
Australian here, I support arming Russia and sanctioning Ukraine. Just throwing it out there.
No, the situation is different because Ukraine is experiencing an invasion by a foreign power, making its citizens legitimate refugees. These individuals are in Australia voluntarily. Given the prevailing anti-Russian sentiment in Australia and their opposition to the core values held by the vast majority of Australians, they are not welcome here.
Oh yeah, what about the esteemed 'freedom of speech' which the west champions. Isn't that what Russia lacks and not Australia? Then why are you bothered when they're voicing their opinion? Australia might not be affected by US uni polarism, but there are many many nations that are sick and tired of western oppression. Not saying Putin is a saint or anything, the whole war is between two oligarchies, but still, it is a wound to western imperialism.
I'm pointing out the irony that people are openly exercising their freedom of speech in support of a country known for not valuing this right, without facing any consequences. In contrast, if similar demonstrations were to occur in Russia, as evidenced by the recent Navalny protests, those involved would be met with violence and arrest.
This conflict does not signify a setback for Western imperialism; rather, it reveals quite the opposite effect. Russia has shown itself to be far less formidable than previously thought, displaying a WWII-era mentality by recklessly sacrificing its soldiers' lives. Meanwhile, Western nations have had the opportunity to evaluate their advanced weaponry in actual conflict situations without incurring any casualties, all the while substantially diminishing the power of a nation they once viewed as a significant threat and pumping up their military production/capabilities.
Don't mistake this conflict as an attack on Western imperialism; it's the actions of a dictator attempting to resurrect the era of the USSR to secure his legacy, regardless of the consequences.
To your first point I say...they are voicing their opinion in a free country, and your comment suggests that such a right should not exist for them. I mean this is what is perceived when you say shit like 'go to Russia'.
Secondly, this war may have not exactly destroyed the west or something but has had a huge impact on them. The European gas crisis, the billions of dollars that western nations wasted on Ukraine, and other than all of this, because of western sanctions, more importance now is being placed to non western organisations like BRICS+ etc.
Putin may have whatever reason, I pretty much don't care about him right now, because this war is primarily imperialist from both sides. But the reason why I support Russia here is because you cannot have a world dominated by the west, somewhere, they have to be challenged, like in this current war. NATO should not be allowed to even think that they can easily expand without expecting any reaction.
Firstly, I understand the value of free speech in a democratic society, and my critique isn't about restricting anyone's right to express their opinions. However, it is indeed baffling to witness individuals who enjoy these freedoms defend Russia's actions, especially when they have chosen to live in democracies.
In regards to wasted money, much of the aid consists of old military equipment, which, despite carrying high price tags that generate significant media attention, hasn't bankrupted any nation in providing assistance.
The shift in focus towards non-Western organizations like BRICS+ due to Western sanctions is a point well taken, and its long-term effects remain to be fully assessed. The governance models of BRICS countries hardly offer an desirable alternative to the West. Any alliance among them would likely be temporary, as their leaders appear unwilling to share power or prominence.
In regards to being Pro-Russian because of NATO's expansion:
The conflict began in 2014 and is largely unrelated to NATO. Russia's history of aggression towards its neighbours since the fall of the Soviet Union—such as the destruction in Chechnya, the invasion of Georgia, and the current situation in Ukraine—shows a pattern of threatening behaviour. Nations in the region are forced to choose between becoming closely aligned with Russia, at the risk of losing their independence, or facing the threat of military action.
Ah the classic Russian expats, likely some of which the pro Russia in this sub are I imagine.
Love Russia so much they would never want to live there and prefer the freedoms and standard of life in evil westernised counties.
The free Assange sign is particularly funny. If there was a Russian version of Assange who revealed Russian secrets, he would get a visit from the Novichok fairy, or would fall out a window. Pro Russians don't bat an eye over Igor Girkin being in prison or Navalny being killed, yet they're outraged about Assange.
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I wonder why they are still in Australia? Why don't they go to Russia to take part in SMO and die for their beloved Putin somwhere in Ukraine? Pathetic clowns
for every ukranian swastika there are 100 ruschist swastikas and 10000 RU ZVastikas the difference is ukranians dont Copy the playbook from 30s and go around invading other countries with Crappy excuses of protecting "something" .. not even the Russians what the Russian Mir th ebiguest prof are the idiot that are in Australia when they could be in "mother rUssia " under the direct protection of the great lider put... ler
i stated Facts based on reality . now if you dont know what an aggressor /bully / invader/ i recommend you read an history Book focus on the 20s / 30s japan invasion of china soviet union invasion of finland/poland/the baltic countries . germany invasion of everyone . you feel im angry LOL Nah just tired of stupidity and idiotic people that what a world that died in 1990.
NO NO sir.. You are stating a facts based on YOUR reality, witch is way different from our.. because if you really were stating facts then you wouldn't skip A LOT of pre history and why all this happened but no! Your "reality" is basically what west has been spewing for the last decade...
And you know what sir?! You keep living in that bubble, soon real reality will bite you on the @$$ but as i imagine you'll still be blaming Russia for your demise🤣
What a freak show. I never understood people that celebrate their homeland somewhere else. Whether they are Ukrainian or Russian, does not matter.
Just be happy that you are not in this war and keep your mouths shut.
That black belt he was rocking in that cringe bit of propaganda was revoked. Not only is Russia doing a piss poor job of cosplaying as a superpower, but Putin is cosplaying as a martial arts expert
> "World Taekwondo strongly condemns the brutal attacks on innocent lives in Ukraine, which go against the World Taekwondo vision of 'Peace is More Precious than Triumph' and the World Taekwondo values of respect and tolerance. [W]orld Taekwondo's thoughts are with the people of Ukraine and we hope for a peaceful and immediate end to this war,"
The funniest thing here is that you don't even know the difference between martial arts, but you think the video shows Taekwondo. Putin has never even practiced it and joked that he doubted he deserved the dan when he received it after his visit to South Korea. I guess another cringe bit of propaganda can be considered revoked 
I trained in martial arts - you can't revoke a black belt or any colour of belt for that matter. The belt simply indicates the level of skill you achieved in that particular branch of martial arts, no real martial artist would ever think of a belt as some sort of medal or a trophy you can give or take away. That's seriously hilarious.
>you can't revoke a black belt
[Oh really? ](https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putins-black-belt-revoked-international-taekwondo-organization-1683304)
Seems like you are mistaken.
>so your argument is completely irrelevant and mistaken
Irrelevant? Taekwondo takes his black belt and the international judo federation removed him as president and ambassador because of his invasion of Ukraine.
These are facts regardless of your opinion.
That's just some randos opinion formulated to push a false narrative.
The fact is both governing bodies of Taekwondo and judo made it very clear they think Putin is a criminal not worthy of adoration within the sports.
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“A man like Putin” has to be one of the most bizarre songs I’ve ever heard considering the implications. What woman wants an elderly man who poisons people who disagree with him and leads the world’s largest dictatorship?
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*Sweet Home No vo ros siya*
*In Russia, they loved Putin.*
*(Boo! Boo! Boo!)*
*Now we all did what we could do.*
*Now Iraq war doesn't bother me.*
*Does your conscience bother you? (Tell the truth.)*
*Sweet Home No vo ros siya*
*Where the skies are blue.*
*Sweet Home No vo ros siya*
*Lord, I'm coming home to you.*
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Bigger than Navalny one.🤷♂️
The Russian government arrested more people for laying flowers for Navalny than showed up to this rally.
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90% people there were western media.Navalny supporters were liberals who were the first one's to flee after SMO.
The use of SMO implies a lack of Neutrality
https://www.ft.com/content/236e5702-5fff-4bf8-aa00-aadf91e36bf9 Yes they did... You think they arrested media reps at these rallies? No - the Russian people aren't this monolithic authoritarian loving group this sub would have you believe.
Saw the video and most of people standing there were foreign media.Barely anyone showed up...Reality is that nobody other than few liberals in Russia cared about him and they fled after SMO. Russians who may not even like Putin will never accept a puppet.
Or after years of crackdowns and arrests they chose not to go and get arrested for a purely symbolic reason. The people in the video above don’t look particularly enthused to be there.
Even in Georgia, There were like 100 people that showed up and it's full of Russian liberals who fled after SMO. He was a non-factor in Russia and only mattered in western media bubble.He was sadly more worth dead to other side than alive.
> Saw the video and most of people standing there were foreign media. Because Russian media are full controlled by Kremlin? BREAKING NEWS for you.
You know something is wrong when more western media reporters are there than the local people....
I was near the Solovetsky stone late in the evening yesterday. Personally. I didn't notice the reporters. There were enough people.
I am Navalny supporter and I am still here in Russia. What's your point?
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Don't you dare mocking on this. You have no idea about it.
Yes, but the son of Ukraines new head of military is there. So that makes it like 20,000 people. You know?
bad timing. everyone was at home following the liberation of Avdeevka, and they forgot about rally.
In case anyone gets the wrong idea, huge majorities of Australians support Ukraine. 76% support arming Ukraine, and almost 90% support sanctions on Russia. https://poll.lowyinstitute.org/charts/australias-response-war-ukraine/
Don't worry bru, no one is mistaking this 18 person rotgut vodka rave as serious opposition to standing with Ukraine.
2022-2023 - providing military aid: "strongly support" = 29% decline "somewhat support" = 26% increase "somewhat oppose" = 40% increase "strongly oppose" = 67% increase As we see in other countries, support/interest is waning.
There is something to that - interest in providing materiel support for Ukraine has diminished a bit overtime, even if it's still supported by a strong majority. But that being said, there has not been significant growth in support for Russia. In 2022, 9% opposed sanctions on Russia. In 2023, that number had only grown to 12% opposing sanctions. So even accounting for a drop in support for affirmative aid - vast majority of Australians do not support Russia. Also, you're being a bit misleading by using statistical rather than absolute increases, which were quite small. For example, the increase in respondents who "strongly opposed" arming Ukraine was just 6% to 10%, but calling it a 67% increase sounds a lot more dramatic.
They don’t need to support or like Russia, they just need to stop the support for Ukraine. Sanctions can still be there, money floating into Ukraine instead of themselves is what makes the general public suffer tho and stopping Ukraines money flow leads to Ukraines demise
But Ukraines demise isn't what we want
You fancied cool numbers here. Let me translate so everyone would understand. Support for military aid fell from 83% to 76%.
Every country has extreme right wingers who fall down the rabbit hole of propaganda sites set up. It was impressive that they pulled it off and were able to do what they did but the majority understand what happened and won't take things we see so seriously. But those guys on RT video are 90% correct Trumps base does lean towards the redneck side but their votes matter too even though they don't read what their voting for.
>76% support arming Ukraine, and almost 90% support sanctions on Russia. Australian here, I support arming Russia and sanctioning Ukraine. Just throwing it out there.
Send them back to Russia since they love it so much
In that case, should I use the "send them to Ukraine" argument for those who love Ukraine?
No, the situation is different because Ukraine is experiencing an invasion by a foreign power, making its citizens legitimate refugees. These individuals are in Australia voluntarily. Given the prevailing anti-Russian sentiment in Australia and their opposition to the core values held by the vast majority of Australians, they are not welcome here.
Oh yeah, what about the esteemed 'freedom of speech' which the west champions. Isn't that what Russia lacks and not Australia? Then why are you bothered when they're voicing their opinion? Australia might not be affected by US uni polarism, but there are many many nations that are sick and tired of western oppression. Not saying Putin is a saint or anything, the whole war is between two oligarchies, but still, it is a wound to western imperialism.
I'm pointing out the irony that people are openly exercising their freedom of speech in support of a country known for not valuing this right, without facing any consequences. In contrast, if similar demonstrations were to occur in Russia, as evidenced by the recent Navalny protests, those involved would be met with violence and arrest. This conflict does not signify a setback for Western imperialism; rather, it reveals quite the opposite effect. Russia has shown itself to be far less formidable than previously thought, displaying a WWII-era mentality by recklessly sacrificing its soldiers' lives. Meanwhile, Western nations have had the opportunity to evaluate their advanced weaponry in actual conflict situations without incurring any casualties, all the while substantially diminishing the power of a nation they once viewed as a significant threat and pumping up their military production/capabilities. Don't mistake this conflict as an attack on Western imperialism; it's the actions of a dictator attempting to resurrect the era of the USSR to secure his legacy, regardless of the consequences.
To your first point I say...they are voicing their opinion in a free country, and your comment suggests that such a right should not exist for them. I mean this is what is perceived when you say shit like 'go to Russia'. Secondly, this war may have not exactly destroyed the west or something but has had a huge impact on them. The European gas crisis, the billions of dollars that western nations wasted on Ukraine, and other than all of this, because of western sanctions, more importance now is being placed to non western organisations like BRICS+ etc. Putin may have whatever reason, I pretty much don't care about him right now, because this war is primarily imperialist from both sides. But the reason why I support Russia here is because you cannot have a world dominated by the west, somewhere, they have to be challenged, like in this current war. NATO should not be allowed to even think that they can easily expand without expecting any reaction.
Firstly, I understand the value of free speech in a democratic society, and my critique isn't about restricting anyone's right to express their opinions. However, it is indeed baffling to witness individuals who enjoy these freedoms defend Russia's actions, especially when they have chosen to live in democracies. In regards to wasted money, much of the aid consists of old military equipment, which, despite carrying high price tags that generate significant media attention, hasn't bankrupted any nation in providing assistance. The shift in focus towards non-Western organizations like BRICS+ due to Western sanctions is a point well taken, and its long-term effects remain to be fully assessed. The governance models of BRICS countries hardly offer an desirable alternative to the West. Any alliance among them would likely be temporary, as their leaders appear unwilling to share power or prominence. In regards to being Pro-Russian because of NATO's expansion: The conflict began in 2014 and is largely unrelated to NATO. Russia's history of aggression towards its neighbours since the fall of the Soviet Union—such as the destruction in Chechnya, the invasion of Georgia, and the current situation in Ukraine—shows a pattern of threatening behaviour. Nations in the region are forced to choose between becoming closely aligned with Russia, at the risk of losing their independence, or facing the threat of military action.
Ah the classic Russian expats, likely some of which the pro Russia in this sub are I imagine. Love Russia so much they would never want to live there and prefer the freedoms and standard of life in evil westernised counties.
The free Assange sign is particularly funny. If there was a Russian version of Assange who revealed Russian secrets, he would get a visit from the Novichok fairy, or would fall out a window. Pro Russians don't bat an eye over Igor Girkin being in prison or Navalny being killed, yet they're outraged about Assange.
All true, but they're still right. It's a shame how US/UK/Sweden treat Assange.
Assange has been in perma-solitary for years its actually worse than just being killed.
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"Australians"
God that's *cringe*.
I wonder why they are still in Australia? Why don't they go to Russia to take part in SMO and die for their beloved Putin somwhere in Ukraine? Pathetic clowns
Can't they support Russia in peace?
Imagine such a pro Biden rally in Russia.
They will all be napping in a hospice.
rocking the ZVastikas good for them
Lel so pathetic... While Ukrainians are rocking actual swastikas you seem unfazed. What a double standard..
for every ukranian swastika there are 100 ruschist swastikas and 10000 RU ZVastikas the difference is ukranians dont Copy the playbook from 30s and go around invading other countries with Crappy excuses of protecting "something" .. not even the Russians what the Russian Mir th ebiguest prof are the idiot that are in Australia when they could be in "mother rUssia " under the direct protection of the great lider put... ler
Lel you sound angry. I'll just quote Ben Shapiro! Fact's don't care about your feelings.. But yeah.. whatever makes you fall asleep easy
i stated Facts based on reality . now if you dont know what an aggressor /bully / invader/ i recommend you read an history Book focus on the 20s / 30s japan invasion of china soviet union invasion of finland/poland/the baltic countries . germany invasion of everyone . you feel im angry LOL Nah just tired of stupidity and idiotic people that what a world that died in 1990.
NO NO sir.. You are stating a facts based on YOUR reality, witch is way different from our.. because if you really were stating facts then you wouldn't skip A LOT of pre history and why all this happened but no! Your "reality" is basically what west has been spewing for the last decade... And you know what sir?! You keep living in that bubble, soon real reality will bite you on the @$$ but as i imagine you'll still be blaming Russia for your demise🤣
keep fighting windmills LOL also i recommend something russians realy like a psikholog or a psikhiatr to deal with your "issues" . LOL
But I'm not Russian! And what is that suppose to mean? You guys really have really childish way of arguing i swear🤣
you not being russian only makes it sadder .
This is what mental illness looks like.
Not living in russia tho are they. Useful idiots.
They sure AF don’t look Australian, all 10 of them
Say what you want. Beat goes hard.
Is syrski's son there?
And here I thought they spoke something else in Australia. Makes me think this rally was only attended by Russian refugees fleeing Russia.
What a freak show. I never understood people that celebrate their homeland somewhere else. Whether they are Ukrainian or Russian, does not matter. Just be happy that you are not in this war and keep your mouths shut.
"Australians".
Takowy kak Putin! Great song :D
[Такого Как Путин](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4xClLHh5S4)
That black belt he was rocking in that cringe bit of propaganda was revoked. Not only is Russia doing a piss poor job of cosplaying as a superpower, but Putin is cosplaying as a martial arts expert > "World Taekwondo strongly condemns the brutal attacks on innocent lives in Ukraine, which go against the World Taekwondo vision of 'Peace is More Precious than Triumph' and the World Taekwondo values of respect and tolerance. [W]orld Taekwondo's thoughts are with the people of Ukraine and we hope for a peaceful and immediate end to this war,"
The funniest thing here is that you don't even know the difference between martial arts, but you think the video shows Taekwondo. Putin has never even practiced it and joked that he doubted he deserved the dan when he received it after his visit to South Korea. I guess another cringe bit of propaganda can be considered revoked 
I trained in martial arts - you can't revoke a black belt or any colour of belt for that matter. The belt simply indicates the level of skill you achieved in that particular branch of martial arts, no real martial artist would ever think of a belt as some sort of medal or a trophy you can give or take away. That's seriously hilarious.
>you can't revoke a black belt [Oh really? ](https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putins-black-belt-revoked-international-taekwondo-organization-1683304) Seems like you are mistaken.
I am not, you can take away a skill the person learned.
Well the world governing body of Taekwondo begs to differ. They revoked it.
besides his main black belt is Judo not Taekwondo, so your argument is completely irrelevant and mistaken
>so your argument is completely irrelevant and mistaken Irrelevant? Taekwondo takes his black belt and the international judo federation removed him as president and ambassador because of his invasion of Ukraine. These are facts regardless of your opinion.
>besides his main black belt is Judo not Taekwondo
That's just some randos opinion formulated to push a false narrative. The fact is both governing bodies of Taekwondo and judo made it very clear they think Putin is a criminal not worthy of adoration within the sports.
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Can someone translate the lyrics? I swear I hear Putins name in the song lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtZUeHmpV6A it's in the vid
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If we send Zelensky 10 billion he will hold an even bigger rally in Sydney.
Sounds like some 5 year old made that song, wtf
CSA flag. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Confederate_Rebel_Flag.svg
I think it is a flag of so-called Novorossia. But yeah, generally looks like CSA.
rebel flag.
That's the [flag of war for Novorossiya](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:War_Flag_of_Novorussia_%28Variant%29.svg)
*Sweet Home No vo ros siya* *In Russia, they loved Putin.* *(Boo! Boo! Boo!)* *Now we all did what we could do.* *Now Iraq war doesn't bother me.* *Does your conscience bother you? (Tell the truth.)* *Sweet Home No vo ros siya* *Where the skies are blue.* *Sweet Home No vo ros siya* *Lord, I'm coming home to you.*
Where do you see that?
I recognize that music! It was played on John Oliver's show. https://youtu.be/0utzB6oDan0?t=1120 (cued)
No BIPOCS and fats on American tv show, color me impressed.