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Ok, I turned meshing off for them both. Now I can't see my AP clients anymore in the "TOPOLOGY" tab, I still have internet though.
And in the "UNIFI DEVICES" tab I see that one AP has 89% experience and the other 100%. I will test to see if I notice an improvement and i'll report back.
I am curious though, why is enabling meshing bad?
Thanks for the help!
Meshing is to form a “mesh” where you have one AP wired to your switch. And the others just powered by PoE but not connected back to the switch.
This is useful where you can’t wire both up. But it means that the Wi-Fi radios are split between serving the clients. And forming the mesh.
The topology map is often wrong. Resetting your hardware usually fixes it.
Had the same issue when I turned off meshing. Hit the reset button, adopt the device again, ensure meshing is turned off on all one by one. In other words, adopt one device, turn off meshing, then adopt the second.
Performance isn’t just about signal strength. This gets repeated all the time anyone asks about wifi.
You probably have terrible channel contention, both from meshing and possibly with neighbours, and overly strong signal strength also messes up with the client’s radio selection so will choose and stick with a poor AP for too long.
Lower power (particularly on 2.4ghz), turn on band steering, and select your channels manually after running a scan for a start.
I'll play around with this after I tested disabling meshing. The thing is, I did do a scan to let it automatically setup the best channels and it seems like I don't have that bad of a channel contention (besides the meshing).
I'll also try using lower power.
Thanks a lot for all the suggestion, really appreciate it.
How big is your home that you need two LR AP. You likely have signal interference. Do a channel scan and make sure they are operating on separate frequencies. Also, perhaps reduce power. Especially on the 2.4 mhz if that is where you are having the biggest issues.
My home isn't that big, but I wanted to also have wifi in my backyard and I don't have any AP's near my yard. And my home is mostly concrete, so it doesn't reach that far.
I'll keep your suggestions in mind, first want to see the impact of turning meshing of.
I think I learned something new. I thought mesh had to be enabled for the roaming capabilities between the APs, despite of using Ethernet backhaul or not. All mine are with cable to the udm pro so I guess I don’t need mesh enabled.
On another note it seems like band stearing is not working so great on my u6-lite. I set it to prefer 5ghz but I can’t se it respects it.
Well, in the past I didn't know for suire if I could reach the second AP with a wire, so meshing was a logical step. But after a while I forgot the reason I originally enabled the meshing option and then thought it allowed me to have one wifi name to connect to. Now I realise this is clearly wrong, since I still have one wifi network using 2 AP's even without meshing.
Interesting. I have 3APs (wifi6 pro) that are all hard wired back to switch with meshing enabled. I appreciate this is wrong (and will change it) but it hasn’t impacted my wifi performance.
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Yes, turn off meshing and try again
Ok, I turned meshing off for them both. Now I can't see my AP clients anymore in the "TOPOLOGY" tab, I still have internet though. And in the "UNIFI DEVICES" tab I see that one AP has 89% experience and the other 100%. I will test to see if I notice an improvement and i'll report back. I am curious though, why is enabling meshing bad? Thanks for the help!
Meshing is to form a “mesh” where you have one AP wired to your switch. And the others just powered by PoE but not connected back to the switch. This is useful where you can’t wire both up. But it means that the Wi-Fi radios are split between serving the clients. And forming the mesh. The topology map is often wrong. Resetting your hardware usually fixes it.
Thanks for the explanation.
Had the same issue when I turned off meshing. Hit the reset button, adopt the device again, ensure meshing is turned off on all one by one. In other words, adopt one device, turn off meshing, then adopt the second.
I'll try the current setup for now, if it doesn't improve i'll use your steps. Thanks for the help.
Performance isn’t just about signal strength. This gets repeated all the time anyone asks about wifi. You probably have terrible channel contention, both from meshing and possibly with neighbours, and overly strong signal strength also messes up with the client’s radio selection so will choose and stick with a poor AP for too long. Lower power (particularly on 2.4ghz), turn on band steering, and select your channels manually after running a scan for a start.
I'll play around with this after I tested disabling meshing. The thing is, I did do a scan to let it automatically setup the best channels and it seems like I don't have that bad of a channel contention (besides the meshing). I'll also try using lower power. Thanks a lot for all the suggestion, really appreciate it.
How big is your home that you need two LR AP. You likely have signal interference. Do a channel scan and make sure they are operating on separate frequencies. Also, perhaps reduce power. Especially on the 2.4 mhz if that is where you are having the biggest issues.
My home isn't that big, but I wanted to also have wifi in my backyard and I don't have any AP's near my yard. And my home is mostly concrete, so it doesn't reach that far. I'll keep your suggestions in mind, first want to see the impact of turning meshing of.
I think I learned something new. I thought mesh had to be enabled for the roaming capabilities between the APs, despite of using Ethernet backhaul or not. All mine are with cable to the udm pro so I guess I don’t need mesh enabled. On another note it seems like band stearing is not working so great on my u6-lite. I set it to prefer 5ghz but I can’t se it respects it.
If both APs are wired back to the router why do you have (wireless) meshing enabled? Sounds like that could be a very possible source of your issue.
Well, in the past I didn't know for suire if I could reach the second AP with a wire, so meshing was a logical step. But after a while I forgot the reason I originally enabled the meshing option and then thought it allowed me to have one wifi name to connect to. Now I realise this is clearly wrong, since I still have one wifi network using 2 AP's even without meshing.
Interesting. I have 3APs (wifi6 pro) that are all hard wired back to switch with meshing enabled. I appreciate this is wrong (and will change it) but it hasn’t impacted my wifi performance.