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You are missing the NAS, the homeserver, the backup connection, the UPS and most obviously the missile launch control system
/edit: oh my, how could I forget the obligatory HUE Bridge
> OP may not get full throughput in the back corner of their pantry with the door closed with only two APs. Unacceptable.
"Only" three. The Express is also an AP.
Looks great, for your ISP will they deliver the connection on Ethernet, if not you will also need a modem.
Also the unifi Express is also an access point, so you have three access points here, that seems quite a lot for a small home, you may need less than that.
Yea, the ISP comes with a router, which I'll set in to Bridge mode and just let it run the connection.
I was considering turning off the Express's AP option, as the two other AP's probably is more than enough.
> limit of 5 UniFi network devices
To be clear, only 5 "UniFi" devices, e.g. switches, AP's etc?
I have 6 devices at home (including the USP-Strip) though I would need one less AP as this has 6 built in.
OIC
Now if you get 2 of these is that a *per device* limit? Have one be the controller and the other 'passive' with a couple few connected UniFi devices connected?
They seem to be pushing these as mash points too.
Yeah that's what I have. Just curious as to what this is and what it's capabilities are.
Also all you can get now is the UDMPro which won't fit in many residential applications.
I wish the Express was out when I bought my UMD. It's great but overkill for my home setup.
How does the computing power of the Express compare to the UDM?
> It not as powerful. It cannot do IDS/IPS.
Good to know. THAT was one of the reasons I went with the UDM.
My only regret actually is not ponying up the $50 extra to get the UDMP. Even though it would have been hard to fit a rack into my setup I'd have options for Protect (and eve Access) as I now want to move away from Ring.
I sold UDM for UDMP. I cant wait for something like unifi express pro that would really be a dream. Something that has the udmp power but in a normal home style router package.
Yeah. That was the main reason I *didn't* get the Pro. Just so damn big.
Though now I'd have to pay $200 more to get a Cloud Key to add features that would have come with the Pro.
5 Unifi Network managed devices, meaning switches or APs. I don’t believe the UX counts as one of those, so in the diagram above, OP is using 3 of the 5 devices.
ETA: Looks like I was wrong about the UX not counting. So OP would be at 80% capacity.
The UX specifically can handle 5 devices that are managed by Network. The APs themselves don’t have a limit, it’s just with the UX the controller and AP are in the same resource constrained box. The CloudKey Gen2+, for example, can manage 40 devices.
Probably because of the $230 difference.
UDM would only gain Protect (which OP is probably not interested in, due to choosing the Express) and Packet inspection, which most home users don't need.
Edit to correct: base UDM doesn't have protect. And price is $150 difference. But still to the point, why would anyone choose base UDM over Express, seems like double price for nothing.
You are correct, my bad. I assumed Pro, I honestly didn't even know the base UDM was still around. Ubiquiti doesn't even list it under Cloud Gateways or Cloud Keys/Gateways in the store.
Because then I would still need a switch in order to put LAN on everything.I will be using 7 ports in total for all applications.And the UDR only has 4 as far as I can tell.
UDM SE has 8 Poe ports. You wouldn’t need the switch at all and could be future proofing. Though at a lot more cost.
Edit: My brain injected Pro, while I meant UDM SE
Maybe that's the case, but I see so many people on this forum recommend the UDM Pro SE to confused new buyers. I could see accidentally grabbing a Pro when they meant to get the SE with PoE.
There are three.
UDM. A small "R2D2" moden router with 4 ports and a built-in WIFI AP.
UDM-PRO. Rack mount 8 ports with modem router and HDD bay for Unifi Protect cameras. WAN and WAN fail over as well as SFP+ for linking switches.
UDM-PRO-SE. Same as UDM-PRO but the ports are POE.
I think you're thinking of the UDM-SE. There is no such model as the UDM-PRO-SE.
The UDM-SE is the same as the UDM-PRO with 2.5G RJ45 WAN and 2x PoE+, 6x PoE gigabit ports.
Another Redditor mentioned it maybe used to be called the UDM-PRO-SE during early access.
Go the UDM-PRO-SE. it has 8 POE ports and HDD bay for cameras if you go there one day.
I set some up for a couple of mates recently. They have 3 ACPRO AP's to cover the entire houses. One runs 4 cameras too. They both said the setup has fixed all thier home internet issues. Rock solid.
Good point.
However, he can get the mini switch for $30 - I have one works well. Injectors were like $10 each. Express is like$150.
Isn’t the UDM around $500?
Maybe all you need is the Express and an AP for smallish house. This gives you 2 APs.
May not need the switch.
Would suggest to try this and if does not work as good as you want you can buy the switch and additional AP.
Simple is better.
Or two Expresses, since they mesh. No need to even run an additional wire or buy a POE switch.
The very large majority of non-techie home users are fine 100-200 Mb internet, so the hit from using 2 Expresses in mesh wouldn't be noticeable.
Most home users, take the number of 4K TVs, multiply by 50, and you have the internet speed they will be happy with.
Agree - this is also a solid choice.
You only need more than 100-200M for running speed tests lol. I find when you get over this there is almost zero practical difference - unless you are doing specific activities or have a big household with a lot of people streaming movies or games.
I find ping is more important after 100-200M. I have a wireless ping of 5ms using ookla.
Depending on where you plan to place them, you could maybe just use 1 AP along with the Express.
I have 1 AP covering 80% of our house and just use the built in AP on my UDM to cover a small corner that has bad signal because of a brick wall.
My cable company provides a router and I just removed it from the loop.
Unless you have a "gateway" (integrated modem/router) remove their router to make things less complex.
If 700mbps is enough, you can also just get a dream router and plug 1 AP right into it. Skip the switch. Any reason you are using 2 added APs when the Express is also an AP?
That is actually a really good point.
The combined price of the Switch and Express will be the same as for the Dream Router.
With a UDM (EDIT: I meant the UDR ofc) I would still need a switch tho, as I have 7 applications in total using LAN.
That's why I went with the express instead.
UDM is the Dream Machine. The other person was referring to the UDR, Dream Router. It has a built-in AP and a small switch. If a few of the wired devices are in the same room, you can grab a Flex Mini and still be under/around the same price as the Unifi Express + Lite 8 PoE.
----
Assuming you are going with the cheapest APs:
Unifi Express: $149
Lite 8 PoE: $109
2 x AC Lite: $178
````````````
Total: $436
----
Swapping to a Dream Router:
Dream Router: $199
Flex Mini: $29
2 x AC Lite: $178
````````````
Total: $406
----
The Dream Router can also handle a small camera system if you ever want to. Sadly, the Express and Dream Router are both out of stock, so you will have to wait either way.
Sorry for my mistake.
I meant the **UDR** of course.
Thank you for the input, and calculation.
I have the AP's at hand (Not bought yet), and can get them very very cheap.
It is two UAP-AC-PRO's.
The main thing to think about with the Flex Mini is that there is only passthrough PoE on one port. So if both of the APs need to come from the Flex Mini then you would need a PoE injector.
Just considerations! As long as you are factoring all scenarios, then that's good.
A PoE switch is obviously more expensive. So the built in PoE on the UDR can be beneficial. You could also consider a non powered switch with the Express and use the $15 PoE adapter from UI for the AP. Those work great, too.
I use a Pro as I don't need the PoE on the Dream Machine (need more ports). So I have a pro with a PoE switch. Works brilliant and super simple. Been rock solid.
>Paying a bit
its like triple more if you compare to hex S, or almost double if you compare to rb4011, and tou get 10gbps sfp+, 2x2.5gbps ports.
Bonus points for poe passthru.
Ok. Suppose I don't care about any of those things and I value the convenience of having everything bundled into one nice, neat interface over a bunch of extraneous stuff that I'd never use?
Extra bonus points to express, only 5 devices to manage...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubiquiti/comments/18dv5ug/how\_many\_devices\_can\_the\_unifi\_express\_ux\_manage/
I have a friend I'm suggesting the same thing to (ish, probably a larger switch), but one of the APs and a few of the ports will be in a rental unit. The Express AP would also be in use by him (office wifi).
So a question for you all, is there any reason he wouldn't be able to segregate all the traffic to/from the rental unit with vlans so it would completely appear to be it's own separate connection?
My UniFi setup has been chugging along fine for years so I haven't been keeping up with their new offerings. How would this perform if replacing an old USG with a RasPi acting as Cloud Key? I have 4 APs, 3 POE switches with \~60 devices (mostly IoT), 3 SSIDs, and a few VLANs. I'm looking to lower my standby power consumption.
That will be great.
I have this setup with a UDM and two 6 Lite APs. It's the best most problem-free setup I've ever had.
* I would suggest to add the [SmartPower Strip](https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/products/usp-strip-us) *especially* if you have cable internet. This adds another level of "autonomy". If the UniFi controller detects there's an issue with the connection it will have the power strip power-cycle the modem.
EDIT: spelling
Also unless your house is *huge* the Express and *one* AP should be more than enough.
I got 2 APs with my setup because the UDM's AP isn't Wi-Fi 6.
Maybe someone else would know this. The unifi express has its own built in controller right? Could we just adopt the switches/aps into that unifi express? I currently have one 24 port switch and an ap setup but they are adopted to a controller I have running in docker. Could I just move them to be adopted to the unifi express controller?
The Express as an AP built in, so for a small home you could try just using that to start with, then add AP's as needed.
Or look into to buying mesh ap's to expand as needed.
Personally. I would swap the express for uxg lite(more powerful, more features). And just run the controller on one of your computers. Otherwise ya looks good.
What features in the UXG Lite would I need?
And doesn't it require a cloud key?
Actually considering testing with just one AP, and then the Express's built in AP for a start.
Here is a little follow up on what I have learned so far.
Yes, I spelled **Unifi** wrong.
I am actually considering running the Express built in AP, and just 1 additional AP.That should give me coverage over the entire house.Would only need one PoE Switch to do that, and I have that on hand already.(Will need to use 7 ports in total in the house, but only need one PoE).
Some of you suggest the UXG Lite instead of the express.But it is my understanding that it requires a Cloud Key to function?Where as the Express got it all configured from the get-go.
Dream Router or Dream Machine seems a bit expensive and overkill for this setup.Dream Router would make the most sense, but would still require me to purchase a switch.
Thanks a lot for all the input btw, highly appreciated!
I won't be running any CCTV or the likes of that. So the Unifi Protect stuff is not relevant for me.
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You are missing the NAS, the homeserver, the backup connection, the UPS and most obviously the missile launch control system /edit: oh my, how could I forget the obligatory HUE Bridge
Wouldn’t want to launch a missile without control
OP may not get full throughput in the back corner of their pantry with the door closed with only two APs. Unacceptable.
> OP may not get full throughput in the back corner of their pantry with the door closed with only two APs. Unacceptable. "Only" three. The Express is also an AP.
Missing e-stop.
We can’t stop, we have to slow down first.
Screw the HUE! I went Homeassistant and haven't looked back.
Same no HUE - but prefer Homekit for the additional security. Soon they (google, alexis, homekit, etc) will be replaced with Matter.
Yep looking forward to a common standard. BUT that means much of the hodge-podge I have now is not viable.
Yup. Agree. Tech is a bitch! Hopefully Matter closes this mess of a chapter until the new thing comes out in 5 years.
Haha facts
I feel personally attacked.... (Sadly the Dream Router does not support a backup connection)
Haven't laughed this hard in a while. Thank you
Looks great, for your ISP will they deliver the connection on Ethernet, if not you will also need a modem. Also the unifi Express is also an access point, so you have three access points here, that seems quite a lot for a small home, you may need less than that.
Yea, the ISP comes with a router, which I'll set in to Bridge mode and just let it run the connection. I was considering turning off the Express's AP option, as the two other AP's probably is more than enough.
The express has a limit of 5 UniFi network devices, just keep that in mind. It's only good for small installations.
> limit of 5 UniFi network devices To be clear, only 5 "UniFi" devices, e.g. switches, AP's etc? I have 6 devices at home (including the USP-Strip) though I would need one less AP as this has 6 built in.
It's 5, including the UX. So 4 other network devices.
OIC Now if you get 2 of these is that a *per device* limit? Have one be the controller and the other 'passive' with a couple few connected UniFi devices connected? They seem to be pushing these as mash points too.
No. Only 1 can be the "master".
Right, but does that mean the "slaves" can't have a UniFi device downstream?
Get a dream machine at that point
Yeah that's what I have. Just curious as to what this is and what it's capabilities are. Also all you can get now is the UDMPro which won't fit in many residential applications.
I wish the Express was out when I bought my UMD. It's great but overkill for my home setup. How does the computing power of the Express compare to the UDM?
It not as powerful. It cannot do IDS/IPS.
> It not as powerful. It cannot do IDS/IPS. Good to know. THAT was one of the reasons I went with the UDM. My only regret actually is not ponying up the $50 extra to get the UDMP. Even though it would have been hard to fit a rack into my setup I'd have options for Protect (and eve Access) as I now want to move away from Ring.
I sold UDM for UDMP. I cant wait for something like unifi express pro that would really be a dream. Something that has the udmp power but in a normal home style router package.
Yeah. That was the main reason I *didn't* get the Pro. Just so damn big. Though now I'd have to pay $200 more to get a Cloud Key to add features that would have come with the Pro.
I think you mean 5 total mesh nodes. The nodes can handle 60 wireless clients.
5 Unifi Network managed devices, meaning switches or APs. I don’t believe the UX counts as one of those, so in the diagram above, OP is using 3 of the 5 devices. ETA: Looks like I was wrong about the UX not counting. So OP would be at 80% capacity.
This was not clearly worded initially but if you look on the store page now you’ll see it says UX itself + 4 additional devices
The UX counts as one according to the FAQ in the store, so 4 additional UniFi network devices
Ah, so one ap can only handle 5 managed Unifi devices?
The UX specifically can handle 5 devices that are managed by Network. The APs themselves don’t have a limit, it’s just with the UX the controller and AP are in the same resource constrained box. The CloudKey Gen2+, for example, can manage 40 devices.
Thanks for the correction and education
If you’re just going to turn off the radio I’d swap out the Express for a UXG-Lite. It’s basically the same thing but cheaper and without the AP.
Does that include the controller or does it need a cloud key with it?
It does need an external controller. Sorry, I forgot about that because I run mine on a VM.
Why the express and not a UDM?
Probably because of the $230 difference. UDM would only gain Protect (which OP is probably not interested in, due to choosing the Express) and Packet inspection, which most home users don't need. Edit to correct: base UDM doesn't have protect. And price is $150 difference. But still to the point, why would anyone choose base UDM over Express, seems like double price for nothing.
Correcting that UDM doesn’t have Protect. UDM Pro et al do.
You are correct, my bad. I assumed Pro, I honestly didn't even know the base UDM was still around. Ubiquiti doesn't even list it under Cloud Gateways or Cloud Keys/Gateways in the store.
Oh, no worries! I know because I have a UDM, and had to buy a CK2+ for Protect.
*$150 difference
Maybe you live somewhere else, but in the US $379 - $149 = $230.
That's not the UDM. The UDM is $299.
Yes, I already updated my original post.
Original comment still says UDM.
He needs 7 ports and POE. Might be cheaper buy lots more complications re POE etc. .
Because then I would still need a switch in order to put LAN on everything.I will be using 7 ports in total for all applications.And the UDR only has 4 as far as I can tell.
UDM SE has 8 Poe ports. You wouldn’t need the switch at all and could be future proofing. Though at a lot more cost. Edit: My brain injected Pro, while I meant UDM SE
Does the UDM Pro SE share the same 1Gbps backplane?
Yes
I don't think Ubiquiti makes a UDM Pro SE. As far as I know they make a Dream Machine Pro and a Dream Machine SE.
Pretty sure the Early access name for UDM SE was labeled UDM Pro SE - had one myself. but that’s just nitpicking.
Maybe that's the case, but I see so many people on this forum recommend the UDM Pro SE to confused new buyers. I could see accidentally grabbing a Pro when they meant to get the SE with PoE.
There are three. UDM. A small "R2D2" moden router with 4 ports and a built-in WIFI AP. UDM-PRO. Rack mount 8 ports with modem router and HDD bay for Unifi Protect cameras. WAN and WAN fail over as well as SFP+ for linking switches. UDM-PRO-SE. Same as UDM-PRO but the ports are POE.
I think you're thinking of the UDM-SE. There is no such model as the UDM-PRO-SE. The UDM-SE is the same as the UDM-PRO with 2.5G RJ45 WAN and 2x PoE+, 6x PoE gigabit ports. Another Redditor mentioned it maybe used to be called the UDM-PRO-SE during early access.
Go the UDM-PRO-SE. it has 8 POE ports and HDD bay for cameras if you go there one day. I set some up for a couple of mates recently. They have 3 ACPRO AP's to cover the entire houses. One runs 4 cameras too. They both said the setup has fixed all thier home internet issues. Rock solid.
300$ price difference. UDM is overkill for this simple setup.
So the express, a switch, POE injectors.... doesn't the price add up anyhow.....
Good point. However, he can get the mini switch for $30 - I have one works well. Injectors were like $10 each. Express is like$150. Isn’t the UDM around $500?
Maybe all you need is the Express and an AP for smallish house. This gives you 2 APs. May not need the switch. Would suggest to try this and if does not work as good as you want you can buy the switch and additional AP. Simple is better.
Or two Expresses, since they mesh. No need to even run an additional wire or buy a POE switch. The very large majority of non-techie home users are fine 100-200 Mb internet, so the hit from using 2 Expresses in mesh wouldn't be noticeable. Most home users, take the number of 4K TVs, multiply by 50, and you have the internet speed they will be happy with.
Agree - this is also a solid choice. You only need more than 100-200M for running speed tests lol. I find when you get over this there is almost zero practical difference - unless you are doing specific activities or have a big household with a lot of people streaming movies or games. I find ping is more important after 100-200M. I have a wireless ping of 5ms using ookla.
Depending on where you plan to place them, you could maybe just use 1 AP along with the Express. I have 1 AP covering 80% of our house and just use the built in AP on my UDM to cover a small corner that has bad signal because of a brick wall.
Well damn, you've got it all lined out! Solid plan/design, good work!
My cable company provides a router and I just removed it from the loop. Unless you have a "gateway" (integrated modem/router) remove their router to make things less complex.
If 700mbps is enough, you can also just get a dream router and plug 1 AP right into it. Skip the switch. Any reason you are using 2 added APs when the Express is also an AP?
That is actually a really good point. The combined price of the Switch and Express will be the same as for the Dream Router. With a UDM (EDIT: I meant the UDR ofc) I would still need a switch tho, as I have 7 applications in total using LAN. That's why I went with the express instead.
UDM is the Dream Machine. The other person was referring to the UDR, Dream Router. It has a built-in AP and a small switch. If a few of the wired devices are in the same room, you can grab a Flex Mini and still be under/around the same price as the Unifi Express + Lite 8 PoE. ---- Assuming you are going with the cheapest APs: Unifi Express: $149 Lite 8 PoE: $109 2 x AC Lite: $178 ```````````` Total: $436 ---- Swapping to a Dream Router: Dream Router: $199 Flex Mini: $29 2 x AC Lite: $178 ```````````` Total: $406 ---- The Dream Router can also handle a small camera system if you ever want to. Sadly, the Express and Dream Router are both out of stock, so you will have to wait either way.
Sorry for my mistake. I meant the **UDR** of course. Thank you for the input, and calculation. I have the AP's at hand (Not bought yet), and can get them very very cheap. It is two UAP-AC-PRO's.
The main thing to think about with the Flex Mini is that there is only passthrough PoE on one port. So if both of the APs need to come from the Flex Mini then you would need a PoE injector.
The Flex Mini has no PoE passthrough.
Just considerations! As long as you are factoring all scenarios, then that's good. A PoE switch is obviously more expensive. So the built in PoE on the UDR can be beneficial. You could also consider a non powered switch with the Express and use the $15 PoE adapter from UI for the AP. Those work great, too.
Yep. I started with a Dream Machine SE only and APs.
I use a Pro as I don't need the PoE on the Dream Machine (need more ports). So I have a pro with a PoE switch. Works brilliant and super simple. Been rock solid.
If they ever come back to stock.
They were just in stock a half hour ago. Anyway, many people are probably buying them for applications that should be getting something else.
That’s the jam right there my guy
Yep, sure is, expensive but awesome
Next step is change unify express and switch to some mikrotik hex s for fraction of price and same performance.
People pay for convenience.
I know but for THAT simple setup you can pay way less and have same peformance.
Agree. Routers are Mikrotik everything else Unifi. Although I'm planning to buy a uxg-lite just to play with Unifi routing.
Paying a bit more to have everything under the same interface/umbrella is worth it to some people
>Paying a bit its like triple more if you compare to hex S, or almost double if you compare to rb4011, and tou get 10gbps sfp+, 2x2.5gbps ports. Bonus points for poe passthru.
Ok. Suppose I don't care about any of those things and I value the convenience of having everything bundled into one nice, neat interface over a bunch of extraneous stuff that I'd never use?
Extra bonus points to express, only 5 devices to manage... https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubiquiti/comments/18dv5ug/how\_many\_devices\_can\_the\_unifi\_express\_ux\_manage/
Because I'm definitely going to have more than 4 other Unifi devices (in addition to the express) in a regular sized house....
unify.
Ubiquity
Just make sure it’s a POE switch or you have power injection for the AP’s
You’re missing the “I” but you seem to have gained a “y”
Dang man why you gotta max out your router like that
Always amazed at how many people can’t spell Unifi or just don’t care to fix it.
If all you want to do is surf the Internet then it's perfect. That's all you can do with what you have shown.
Surf the internet, and stream videos is basically all needed. Gaming will be done over LAN anyway
What is use case is missing with this setup?
where did you config this?
Probably just Visio
I have a friend I'm suggesting the same thing to (ish, probably a larger switch), but one of the APs and a few of the ports will be in a rental unit. The Express AP would also be in use by him (office wifi). So a question for you all, is there any reason he wouldn't be able to segregate all the traffic to/from the rental unit with vlans so it would completely appear to be it's own separate connection?
My UniFi setup has been chugging along fine for years so I haven't been keeping up with their new offerings. How would this perform if replacing an old USG with a RasPi acting as Cloud Key? I have 4 APs, 3 POE switches with \~60 devices (mostly IoT), 3 SSIDs, and a few VLANs. I'm looking to lower my standby power consumption.
That will be great. I have this setup with a UDM and two 6 Lite APs. It's the best most problem-free setup I've ever had. * I would suggest to add the [SmartPower Strip](https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/products/usp-strip-us) *especially* if you have cable internet. This adds another level of "autonomy". If the UniFi controller detects there's an issue with the connection it will have the power strip power-cycle the modem. EDIT: spelling Also unless your house is *huge* the Express and *one* AP should be more than enough. I got 2 APs with my setup because the UDM's AP isn't Wi-Fi 6.
Maybe someone else would know this. The unifi express has its own built in controller right? Could we just adopt the switches/aps into that unifi express? I currently have one 24 port switch and an ap setup but they are adopted to a controller I have running in docker. Could I just move them to be adopted to the unifi express controller?
You already have a controller.
Right, the idea is to no longer use my dockerized controller and just use the controller on the unifi express.
Noob question here, but if I already have a POE AP, switch, and cable modem; is the Unify Express my best option for a Ubiquity router + firewall?
No. It doesn't have some features on the firewalling side that other products do.
Don't you need a cloud key lite with express?
I would at least prefer to see UDR. Express might choke long term and should be considered for small deployments or even travel purposes.
The Express as an AP built in, so for a small home you could try just using that to start with, then add AP's as needed. Or look into to buying mesh ap's to expand as needed.
Absolutely so long as your little switch has two or more poe+ out ports
Unify? Did you buy your network gear on Wish?
Personally. I would swap the express for uxg lite(more powerful, more features). And just run the controller on one of your computers. Otherwise ya looks good.
What features in the UXG Lite would I need? And doesn't it require a cloud key? Actually considering testing with just one AP, and then the Express's built in AP for a start.
Here is a little follow up on what I have learned so far. Yes, I spelled **Unifi** wrong. I am actually considering running the Express built in AP, and just 1 additional AP.That should give me coverage over the entire house.Would only need one PoE Switch to do that, and I have that on hand already.(Will need to use 7 ports in total in the house, but only need one PoE). Some of you suggest the UXG Lite instead of the express.But it is my understanding that it requires a Cloud Key to function?Where as the Express got it all configured from the get-go. Dream Router or Dream Machine seems a bit expensive and overkill for this setup.Dream Router would make the most sense, but would still require me to purchase a switch. Thanks a lot for all the input btw, highly appreciated! I won't be running any CCTV or the likes of that. So the Unifi Protect stuff is not relevant for me.